I' aiming for thick collar-bone length. I did a 2 1/2 year stretch and was not too satisfied with the results. I've cut my hair twice since then so that I can even it up. Nevertheless, it's frustrating because after all the time I thought I would be happy. Anyway, I believe my edges are going through age related balding. So to encourage growth in that area, I've decided to relax in two sections, cut down the bristles of my relaxer application brush and protect relaxed hair with vaseline. I promised not to cut it any more, or wear my ponytail until August of 2014, then I'll be able to decide whether my new regime works.