I need to update. I originally said somewhere between SL and APL. Well, I still at bottom of neck length. I don't see any of my progress because I constantly cutting my ends because they're too thin. I'm starting to think that I'll never achieve thick ends. Its strange because when my hair was shorter my hair seemed thicker. Anywho, if all works out and I don't have to cut my progress, I may reach the top of SL by the end of the year.