Transitioning without BC'ing Support Thread
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hnntrr
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Well I got no comments about pre-pooing for clarifying wash, so going from researching some stuff I am going to try using a healthysexyhair soymilk conditioner, coconut oil and tea tree oil mix. Rinsing my hair under hot water and then applying the pre-poo mixture (that I warm in the microwave) to my hair and then letting it set for an hour or two before clarifying. Hope this works (crosses fingers).
Hopefully this protein once a month thing will help.
Hopefully this protein once a month thing will help.
That sounds like a good mix.
Do you usually apply the pre-poo on wet hair? I think if you are already warming it up, on dry hair should be fine.
Put in some twists today. Took about 2.5 hours. I will leave these in for 2 weeks or maybe 3 depending on how they hold up. They will most likely stay clipped up or in a ponytail since the relaxed ends are very apparent now.
I will be doing a variation of twists, flat-twist updo's and high buns for the next 3 months, then I will do single braids with added hair to finish off my transition.
I will be doing a variation of twists, flat-twist updo's and high buns for the next 3 months, then I will do single braids with added hair to finish off my transition.
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hnntrr
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I tried doing it in dry hair last time and it didnt work well. Its been two hours so I am going to rinse, shampoo, condition, tea rinse and DC and then put. my scarf and hat back on in another 2ish-3 hours...maybe longer since I did a 2 hour protein pre-poo.
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Deziyah
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I have been trying different things..... I was using the elasta QP oil recovery, it was too oily and left my hair a bit greasy, I used Miss Jessies buttercreme but that too was too greasy.... but even though my hair was greasy, it was still kind of dry and felt a bit crunchy... I am now trying the Shea Moisture curl and style milk which so far so good, my hair is soft and doesn't feel dry and crunchy.... I have been sealing with my oil mix (Coconut, Castor, Jojoba, Grapeseed Oil, & Eucalyptus) I am starting to think my oil mix may not be right so last night I actually used the curlformers for the first time; used KKNT with the Curl & Style Milk & straight Coconut oil.... I just made Whipped Shea Butter today that I will use when I take them out and see how that works....
I know I gave you a mouthful but hopefully you can give me some pointers, cuz with this part I feel like I am all over the place
!!!!!
hnntrr
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Really condensed version of what I put on my blog:
(sorry its still long...im a story teller..)
So after adding my pre-poo mixture (coconut oil, tea tree oil and healthysexyhair soy milk conditioner) and letting it set for 2- 2 1/2 hours under a plastic cap, scarf, and earflap hat. I turned up the heat in my bedroom and took a nap (since I have to work a night shift tonight)...
I rinsed the pre-poo out of my hair. Surprisingly, my hair felt really strong, heavy and soft but not wiry, or dry like my hair normally does after doing a protein conditioner (I read somewhere that soy, wheat, and rice based proteins do better for low porosity hair)..... And since I had so much oil in the pre-poo mix (about a 3:1 ratio) it sealed the water/conditioner into my hair and didnt let it go ANYWHERE.
So I then began shampooing my hair; I put about a dollar coin sized amount in my hand and focused it on my ng...After I scrubbed to a really good lather (which was super quick considering how much oil was on my hair) I rinsed my hair. Surprisingly my hair did NOT feel stripped, it still felt strong, heavy and soft without feeling stripped at all (albeit less oily). I decided that I should shampoo one more time but to avoid over washing my hair I decided to put some of my moisturizing conditioner on through my hair before..I then shampooed a 2nd time quickly after rinsing the conditioner out and scrubbed my NG and my scalp again. I then rinsed again and oh my gosh. My hair felt pretty good! It was still strong feeling but lighter not so weighed down and it felt clean without being squeaky or feeling stripped. And I could tell that all if not most of that build up was gone.
So I took this opportunity to rinse really well and make sure the shampoo was out of my hair before doing my tea rinse. Now normally I have to squeeze a ton of the rinse out of my hair in the sink afterward because my hair is still dripping but…I rinsed, squeezed a bit out in the tub and pinned it up so I could dry off. By the time I completely dried off and unpinned my hair my hair was not dripping at all. Seemingly my hair soaked up all that rinse! (I hope) (usually my hair is dripping something fierce) I did pat my hair with a towel quickly before so I could apply the DC. Now at this point my hair DID feel straw like and stuck together (but it always tends to feel like that when the rinse is in my hair.) So I applied the DC while detangling and then brushed through my hair with my bamboo detangler to make sure the DC was all through my hair.
So all in all I think this method worked. I will try the green house effect one day when I dont have anywhere to go the next day it seems like it will work really well esp since my hair is really resistant to taking water/moisture......but for consolidating into one day I think this method worked out pretty good....
But the true test will come when I rinse this DC out and work with it tomorrow..
eta: I rinsed the DC out cause my head was starting to itch something fierce...I dont think my head likes being baggied. It sat for 3 1/2 hours...and that was itching unbearably...usually it happens when I wear my scarf too long/hair is we too long. Anyway. My hair came out nice. It feels clean but strong moisturized and yay. I was light on my styling products tonight and just added my leave in and have it in a bun to airdry. Going to moisturize and seal (in the morning) and then bun nightly until tuesday.
(sorry its still long...im a story teller..)
So after adding my pre-poo mixture (coconut oil, tea tree oil and healthysexyhair soy milk conditioner) and letting it set for 2- 2 1/2 hours under a plastic cap, scarf, and earflap hat. I turned up the heat in my bedroom and took a nap (since I have to work a night shift tonight)...
I rinsed the pre-poo out of my hair. Surprisingly, my hair felt really strong, heavy and soft but not wiry, or dry like my hair normally does after doing a protein conditioner (I read somewhere that soy, wheat, and rice based proteins do better for low porosity hair)..... And since I had so much oil in the pre-poo mix (about a 3:1 ratio) it sealed the water/conditioner into my hair and didnt let it go ANYWHERE.
So I then began shampooing my hair; I put about a dollar coin sized amount in my hand and focused it on my ng...After I scrubbed to a really good lather (which was super quick considering how much oil was on my hair) I rinsed my hair. Surprisingly my hair did NOT feel stripped, it still felt strong, heavy and soft without feeling stripped at all (albeit less oily). I decided that I should shampoo one more time but to avoid over washing my hair I decided to put some of my moisturizing conditioner on through my hair before..I then shampooed a 2nd time quickly after rinsing the conditioner out and scrubbed my NG and my scalp again. I then rinsed again and oh my gosh. My hair felt pretty good! It was still strong feeling but lighter not so weighed down and it felt clean without being squeaky or feeling stripped. And I could tell that all if not most of that build up was gone.
So I took this opportunity to rinse really well and make sure the shampoo was out of my hair before doing my tea rinse. Now normally I have to squeeze a ton of the rinse out of my hair in the sink afterward because my hair is still dripping but…I rinsed, squeezed a bit out in the tub and pinned it up so I could dry off. By the time I completely dried off and unpinned my hair my hair was not dripping at all. Seemingly my hair soaked up all that rinse! (I hope) (usually my hair is dripping something fierce) I did pat my hair with a towel quickly before so I could apply the DC. Now at this point my hair DID feel straw like and stuck together (but it always tends to feel like that when the rinse is in my hair.) So I applied the DC while detangling and then brushed through my hair with my bamboo detangler to make sure the DC was all through my hair.
So all in all I think this method worked. I will try the green house effect one day when I dont have anywhere to go the next day it seems like it will work really well esp since my hair is really resistant to taking water/moisture......but for consolidating into one day I think this method worked out pretty good....
But the true test will come when I rinse this DC out and work with it tomorrow..
eta: I rinsed the DC out cause my head was starting to itch something fierce...I dont think my head likes being baggied. It sat for 3 1/2 hours...and that was itching unbearably...usually it happens when I wear my scarf too long/hair is we too long. Anyway. My hair came out nice. It feels clean but strong moisturized and yay. I was light on my styling products tonight and just added my leave in and have it in a bun to airdry. Going to moisturize and seal (in the morning) and then bun nightly until tuesday.
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havilland
Magical Mythical Princess
Deziyah. Try to stick with more natural products for moisture. Miss Jessie's is full of mineral oil which suffocates the hair and locks out moisture.
Sounds like the newer products you are trying may work better.
Curl milk. Followed by grapeseed oil. Followed by Shea butter. A good combo to try. It may be too much. But you can omit as needed. The milk will add moisture. The oils and butters will seal it in.
Sounds like the newer products you are trying may work better.
Curl milk. Followed by grapeseed oil. Followed by Shea butter. A good combo to try. It may be too much. But you can omit as needed. The milk will add moisture. The oils and butters will seal it in.
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Deziyah
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havilland Thank you so much for your suggesting.... The curlformers came out ok, but just not as full as I would like due to my ugly, thin relaxed ends 
I must say that my hair still feels softer and I can move my finger through my ng to the relaxed hair without it feeling like it's going to snap, crackle and pop! Tonight I will try and salvage the top of my hair and do some sort of up do using the milk, grapseed oil and Shea butter as you suggested. Will update manana!!
I must say that my hair still feels softer and I can move my finger through my ng to the relaxed hair without it feeling like it's going to snap, crackle and pop! Tonight I will try and salvage the top of my hair and do some sort of up do using the milk, grapseed oil and Shea butter as you suggested. Will update manana!!
hnntrr
New Member
Mental note: moisturize and seal before going to bed. Not a good idea to just put leave in, in...my hair felt okay this morning but it felt kind of dry when I brushed it down. Ontop of that I noticed I had split ends, so I flat ironed and trimmed my whole head, about 1/4 of an inch all around. Which meant my hair felt (KINDA hard) but i put moisturizer and oil on it and it went back to its soft self...it has a little more swang this time that makes me happy but I still wont be wearing my hair down for awhile.... I guess I just need to make sure I put moisturizer everyday religiously....
veesweets
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23 weeks post, time to start washing in sections. Surprised I made it so long. The tangles I had last night were crazy though. I took my time and kept my patience but there was one small knot that I had to just cut out. Was gonna take me days to get that sucka out and I was not in the mood 
. Not even upset about it though, valuable lesson learned.
. Not even upset about it though, valuable lesson learned.
Napp
Ms. Nobody
I dont like moisturizing and sealing when i wear my hair straight but now that it is curly i think i should. but it doesn't feel dry at all so i don't know if i need to of not.
I find whenever i moisturize daily, at the end of the week i get more tangled than if i didn't, or just used a tiny bit of moisturizer or serum on the ends like 2x that week.
I find whenever i moisturize daily, at the end of the week i get more tangled than if i didn't, or just used a tiny bit of moisturizer or serum on the ends like 2x that week.
kbnax
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Although my hair feels fine right now, I think I may have protein overload. Idk. Everything went well with my wash yesterday until I was airdrying. Just simply SMOOTHING my hair down with my hand, I had breakage. Will focus the next few DC's on moisture to see if that helps.
kbnax
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Ladies are yall finding that your hair mats back up after airdrying/detangling? I'm wondering should I start braiding my hair, like I have to do my daughter (natural). It seems as when my hair is airdrying loose, the natural part is matting up as it's drying. Are yall already incorporating some things that naturals do in your routines?
Rae81
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Yes my hair mats back up, so I have started putting my hair in 4 ~5 braid while it dries to keep it stretched.
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blue_flower
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Not much going on with my hair except for just keeping it moisturized. I think it's been 11 months since my last texturizer. I would like for my natural hair to be shoulder length before I start snipping and that won't be until the end of this year, hopefully.
havilland
Magical Mythical Princess
Yes. Yes and heck yes!
I watch natural YouTube-ers all the time to learn techniques that have helped me.
I have to air dry in twists or a bun. And I have to layer moisture on to keep my hair from beig tangled and yuck!
daviine
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Hi ladies! I've been lurking and it's good to see so many transitioners participating in the thread. I'm still looking for a nice date to BC. I'm not sure if I want to base it on a "magical date" or the weather.
The dates I'm thinking of so far are 3-1-13 or the first day in spring, whenever that is.
I was also thinking I could BC when the dew points rise but I'm not sure.
Most days I'm ready to get it over with already but there are a few days I think, " It's not so bad, I can go longer." We'll see.
A happy medium could be to keep trimming or to BC the back. Not sure what I want to do yet though.
Happy transitioning!
The dates I'm thinking of so far are 3-1-13 or the first day in spring, whenever that is.
I was also thinking I could BC when the dew points rise but I'm not sure.
Most days I'm ready to get it over with already but there are a few days I think, " It's not so bad, I can go longer." We'll see.
A happy medium could be to keep trimming or to BC the back. Not sure what I want to do yet though.
Happy transitioning!
daviine
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Leslie_C Hola mi amor!
Typing that post made me want to BC so I trimmed some hair to help with the urge. I like 3-1-13 a lot bc I like numbers but it's so soon!!! I couldn't BC on my either because it was in January and too soon also.
I still haven't learned much about my hair though so I should probably focus on that.
daviine
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MuziqizLyfe
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Hi ladies, I've decided to transition without the big chop over 2 years. I don't want to sacrifice my length but am worried about damage from dealing with 2 textures long term. The longest I've ever gone without a relaxer is 16 weeks.
My plan is to wear a sew in for 3 months, then let my hair breathe for a month (getting blow outs) then back into sew in for another 3 months & so on. I've never had a sew in before either so this whole experience is going to be a roller coaster! I've found a stylist that specializes in natural blow outs & another stylists that does weaves for naturals & transitioners.
Does this sound like a doable plan? Any advice for me or links to threads with good tips? I plan to get my first install mid march.
My plan is to wear a sew in for 3 months, then let my hair breathe for a month (getting blow outs) then back into sew in for another 3 months & so on. I've never had a sew in before either so this whole experience is going to be a roller coaster! I've found a stylist that specializes in natural blow outs & another stylists that does weaves for naturals & transitioners.
Does this sound like a doable plan? Any advice for me or links to threads with good tips? I plan to get my first install mid march.
That sounds like a good plan to me. Many people transition with weaves. Just take care of the hair underneath and you should be fine. It's great that you found stylists that specialize in those areas.
havilland
Magical Mythical Princess
I wore back to back weaves for a year to grow out some damage. Just make sure you moisturize regularly and deep condition regularly and you should be fine.
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