Thin/Fine Support Thread

[divinefavor]

Hey LAdies!
Im in the process of loking for a replacement/alternative to Aveda USC. Has anyone used the NTM (as a daily moisturizer) with good results? I need something light yet moisturizing & reasonably priced.

You're putting down Aveda USC, Itsy?! I'm shocked!! Let me know what alternative you find.

Also, how did the Aveda Scalp Benefits work out for you?

 

[ItsyBitsy]

You're putting down Aveda USC, Itsy?! I'm shocked!! Let me know what alternative you find.

Also, how did the Aveda Scalp Benefits work out for you?

Well my USC is just about gone and I've been noticing a few more splits than normal. I 'm not sure if USC is cuttn it. I want to try something else now rather than replace the USC. To help combat my splits i've upped my protein treatments & now im replacing USC. I'll see if this makes a difference. Any other tips for reducing splits?

I didn't get the Scalp Benefits yet. Im on a mission to get my moisture situation straight first.

 

[divinefavor]

Well my USC is just about gone and I've been noticing a few more splits than normal. I 'm not sure if USC is cuttn it. I want to try something else now rather than replace the USC. To help combat my splits i've upped my protein treatments & now im replacing USC. I'll see if this makes a difference. Any other tips for reducing splits?

I didn't get the Scalp Benefits yet. Im on a mission to get my moisture situation straight first.

Get some castor oil and seal your moisture in with that. Definitely put the castor oil on your ends. If you wear your hair down a lot, this option may not work for you as it could weigh the hair down a little bit.

 

[ItsyBitsy]

Get some castor oil and seal your moisture in with that. Definitely put the castor oil on your ends. If you wear your hair down a lot, this option may not work for you as it could weigh the hair down a little bit.

I do wear my hair out most of the time but im going to try it. Expecially while my hair is wet prior to rollersetting. I'm able to apply more products while my hair is wet without weighing it down. Thanks!

 

[Crystalicequeen123]

I'm debating on whether or not I should go back to the DE mild shea butter relaxer, or just to continue with the DE regular.

I liked how THICK and long my hair was growing when I had a milder relaxer in my hair, but I like the silky feel and look of the regular relaxer. I look more polished. Plus, I didn't like how my hair would shrink with the humidity when I had the milder relaxer. It seemed like my hair would rarely hold straight styles. And I like having versatility.

BUT...on the other hand, I also don't like how my hair is a bit thinner now with the regular relaxer.

Do you ladies think that I should just stick it out with the reg. strength relaxer and just increase them time that I stretch (currently I stretch anywhere from 10-12 weeks) OR...should I switch to the milder relaxer?

 

[Cayenne0622]

I'm debating on whether or not I should go back to the DE mild shea butter relaxer, or just to continue with the DE regular.

I liked how THICK and long my hair was growing when I had a milder relaxer in my hair, but I like the silky feel and look of the regular relaxer. I look more polished. Plus, I didn't like how my hair would shrink with the humidity when I had the milder relaxer. It seemed like my hair would rarely hold straight styles. And I like having versatility.

BUT...on the other hand, I also don't like how my hair is a bit thinner now with the regular relaxer.

Do you ladies think that I should just stick it out with the reg. strength relaxer and just increase them time that I stretch (currently I stretch anywhere from 10-12 weeks) OR...should I switch to the milder relaxer?

I think it depends on your hair type. If you are able to stretch longer, maybe you should give that a shot before switching to mild. I guess it depends too on what's more important to you....straighter hair or thicker hair. I don't know...that's a hard choice to make. I was mistakenly using regular strength for years when my fine hair only needed mild.

 

[nycutiepie]

I think it depends on your hair type. If you are able to stretch longer, maybe you should give that a shot before switching to mild. I guess it depends too on what's more important to you....straighter hair or thicker hair. I don't know...that's a hard choice to make. I was mistakenly using regular strength for years when my fine hair only needed mild.

This is my situation right here.......I'm getting ready to switch to a mild relaxer because every hairdresser always told me my hair was fine and straightened very quickly but the fools always used regular.

 

[AtlantaJJ]

Mizani Butter Blend Relaxer & Fine 4a hair

Any of my fine sisters use Mizani's new Butter Blend relaxer system? I'm about this -- close to buying it and trying it!

 

[AtlantaJJ]

Also, I couldn't help my PJ self, I wandered in to a Sally's and found a jar of Vital Olive Oil Hair Mayo!! The ingredients sound yummy, no petros...seems like a nice blend of mositure and protein.

Has anyone tried this one before?

 

[Cayenne0622]

Also, I couldn't help my PJ self, I wandered in to a Sally's and found a jar of Vital Olive Oil Hair Mayo!! The ingredients sound yummy, no petros...seems like a nice blend of mositure and protein.

Has anyone tried this one before?

What are the ingredients? Sounds like it might be an interesting prod. I haven't tried that Mizani Butter Blend. I'm tryna chill with switching relaxers.

 

[Serenity_Peace]

Also, I couldn't help my PJ self, I wandered in to a Sally's and found a jar of Vital Olive Oil Hair Mayo!! The ingredients sound yummy, no petros...seems like a nice blend of mositure and protein.

Has anyone tried this one before?

Every time I see this in the BSS I'm tempted. Please do report back with your full assessment.

Also, if you try the Mizani Butter Blend, please let us know how it works. I'm thinking about trying it for my touch-up.

Good luck, sweetie!

 

[AtlantaJJ]

What are the ingredients? Sounds like it might be an interesting prod. I haven't tried that Mizani Butter Blend. I'm tryna chill with switching relaxers.

They don't have the ingredients list online so that I can cut and paste. <rats>

This is what I found on their site:
Repairs damage caused by hair extensions and chemical over processing. Enriched with Natural Botanical extracts, Oat Protein, Vitamins, Egg Proteins and Olive Oil, it increases elasticity and rejuvenates weak fragile hair. It adds moisture and shine, allowing you to wear your own healthy, natural hair, free from glue and extensions.

From the jar:
Water, oilve oil, hydrolyzed oat protein, hydrolized soy bean, glycerin, Dimethicone, Polyquartemium-32, dicatydimonium choride, cetyl alcohol, lanolin, DL panthenol, sodium lauryl sulfate, menthol, camphor, cholesterol, benzophenone-4, topepherol acetate (vit e), vit a, egg protein,carrot oil, tea tree oil, kukui nut oil, parsley flakes, Extract of amic montana flower, centella asiaitca, urtica dioica (nettle), mentha piperita leaf (peppermint), capsium annuum, and cochlearia, Horseradish Root propylene glycol, Methylparaben, Propylparaben, DMDM Hydantoin..color and fragrance..

Okay remind me to review products with less ingredients!

 

[Cayenne0622]

Sounds pretty good! Wow!

They don't have the ingredients list online so that I can cut and paste. <rats>

This is what I found on their site:
Repairs damage caused by hair extensions and chemical over processing. Enriched with Natural Botanical extracts, Oat Protein, Vitamins, Egg Proteins and Olive Oil, it increases elasticity and rejuvenates weak fragile hair. It adds moisture and shine, allowing you to wear your own healthy, natural hair, free from glue and extensions.

From the jar:
Water, oilve oil, hydrolyzed oat protein, hydrolized soy bean, glycerin, Dimethicone, Polyquartemium-32, dicatydimonium choride, cetyl alcohol, lanolin, DL panthenol, sodium lauryl sulfate, menthol, camphor, cholesterol, benzophenone-4, topepherol acetate (vit e), vit a, egg protein,carrot oil, tea tree oil, kukui nut oil, parsley flakes, Extract of amic montana flower, centella asiaitca, urtica dioica (nettle), mentha piperita leaf (peppermint), capsium annuum, and cochlearia, Horseradish Root propylene glycol, Methylparaben, Propylparaben, DMDM Hydantoin..color and fragrance..

Okay remind me to review products with less ingredients!

 

[AtlantaJJ]

Sounds pretty good! Wow!

I know!! The only questionable ingredients that I noted were sodium lauryl sulfate, and Dimethicone.... they are further down the ingredient list. I wounder why they even had to put it in there, the formulation seems like such a winner over all. I will post my results after my next poo/DC

 

[Serenity_Peace]

A note of inspiration to my lovely fine/thin-haired sisters.

This is going to be quite long:

Let me say at the outset that I sadly have no pictures to share, but I just wanted to encourage all of you NOT to EVER give up!

I know that often it is a challenge trying to remain diligent. You're convinced you're not making any progress, but your hair IS growing.

Can I just say that after 2 weeks of the low/no-manipulation challenge, I decided to wash my hair today. (Oil rinses are DA TRUF!!! )

Anyway, I didn't feel like air drying. It's a little chilly today, but gorgeous. And later on, I'm going to the baseball game, so I didn't want to walk around with a wet head of hair in the chilly wind.

So I decided to break one of my cardinal rules: I blow dried for only the second time this year. Ladies, let me tell you. It took me almost 45 minutes to blow dry my hair. When I was done, my hands and arms were tired! Why? Not only has my hair grown; it has also gotten VERY thick! I mean, I still didn't blow dry it all the way straight because my arms got too tired.

I am about 9.5 weeks post-relaxer. Please keep that in mind when I proudly report that my hair is at APL, probably a little bit beyond!!

Let me repeat that: I'm nearly at 10 weeks post-relaxer. I HAVE NOT gotten a touch-up, and my hair is at APL or probably 1/2 to an inch below. Do I need to repeat it again?!

Ladies, I have never had very long hair in my life. I have always struggled because I have very fine, fragile, delicate hair. I knew something good was happening when I saw a shedded hair and attempted to tug at it...IT WOULDN'T BREAK!!!

All that I'm trying to say is that this testimony that I'm giving is very real. PLEASE DO NOT GIVE UP!!!! KEEP WORKING!! KEEP TAKING YOUR VITAMINS AND SUPPLEMENTS!! PLEASE KEEP DOING YOUR EXERCISES, EATING WELL, TAKING IN PROTEIN, AND WATER!!!

DO NOT...DO NOT...DO NOT...DO NOT GIVE UP!!! If I can do this, ANYONE can!

I mean, ladies, my hair is down my back...and I haven't even had a touch-up!! My hair has never been this long, and I can't wait 'til the end of November when I finally do get my touch-up, to show all of you my progress and hopefully be an inspiration because you lovelies have been there for me. Lord knows, you have helped me get through.

So, once again...

DON'T GIVE UP!!!!

Love ya,

Serenity_Peace

Vitamins/supplements: Biotin, Pantothenic Acid (B5), B-Complex, Country Life Multi, Maxi-hair
Shampoos/Conditioners: AVEDA, Elucence Shampoo/Condition
Leave-In: Africa's Best Kids Organic Shea Butter Moisturizing and Conditioning, Detangling Leave-In...SEAL WITH CASTOR OIL!!!!!
Workouts: Weights, running, yoga
Diet: WATER! Leafy greens, fruits/veggies, fish

 

[SelfStyled]

How did you know a sista NEEDED to hear that encouragement today. I am ELATED for your progress SP!!!!!!!

 

[january noir]

Oh Serenity! I am sooooo happy for you!

OK. I won't give up! I won't. We wants PICS!

A note of inspiration to my lovely fine/thin-haired sisters.

This is going to be quite long:

Let me say at the outset that I sadly have no pictures to share, but I just wanted to encourage all of you NOT to EVER give up!

I know that often it is a challenge trying to remain diligent. You're convinced you're not making any progress, but your hair IS growing.

Can I just say that after 2 weeks of the low/no-manipulation challenge, I decided to wash my hair today. (Oil rinses are DA TRUF!!! )

Anyway, I didn't feel like air drying. It's a little chilly today, but gorgeous. And later on, I'm going to the baseball game, so I didn't want to walk around with a wet head of hair in the chilly wind.

So I decided to break one of my cardinal rules: I blow dried for only the second time this year. Ladies, let me tell you. It took me almost 45 minutes to blow dry my hair. When I was done, my hands and arms were tired! Why? Not only has my hair grown; it has also gotten VERY thick! I mean, I still didn't blow dry it all the way straight because my arms got too tired.

I am about 9.5 weeks post-relaxer. Please keep that in mind when I proudly report that my hair is at APL, probably a little bit beyond!!

Let me repeat that: I'm nearly at 10 weeks post-relaxer. I HAVE NOT gotten a touch-up, and my hair is at APL or probably 1/2 to an inch below. Do I need to repeat it again?!

Ladies, I have never had very long hair in my life. I have always struggled because I have very fine, fragile, delicate hair. I knew something good was happening when I saw a shedded hair and attempted to tug at it...IT WOULDN'T BREAK!!!

All that I'm trying to say is that this testimony that I'm giving is very real. PLEASE DO NOT GIVE UP!!!! KEEP WORKING!! KEEP TAKING YOUR VITAMINS AND SUPPLEMENTS!! PLEASE KEEP DOING YOUR EXERCISES, EATING WELL, TAKING IN PROTEIN, AND WATER!!!

DO NOT...DO NOT...DO NOT...DO NOT GIVE UP!!! If I can do this, ANYONE can!

I mean, ladies, my hair is down my back...and I haven't even had a touch-up!! My hair has never been this long, and I can't wait 'til the end of November when I finally do get my touch-up, to show all of you my progress and hopefully be an inspiration because you lovelies have been there for me. Lord knows, you have helped me get through.

So, once again...

DON'T GIVE UP!!!!

Love ya,

Serenity_Peace

Vitamins/supplements: Biotin, Pantothenic Acid (B5), B-Complex, Country Life Multi, Maxi-hair
Shampoos/Conditioners: AVEDA, Elucence Shampoo/Condition
Leave-In: Africa's Best Kids Organic Shea Butter Moisturizing and Conditioning, Detangling Leave-In...SEAL WITH CASTOR OIL!!!!!
Workouts: Weights, running, yoga
Diet: WATER! Leafy greens, fruits/veggies, fish

 

[Cayenne0622]

Thanks Serenity!!! I am devastated that maybe this relaxer has caused my hair to start shedding again after all of my hard work. I just did a scalp massage with Rosemary, Peppermint Oil, Castor Oil and a little bit of Garlic Oil. I CANNOT GO THROUGH THIS AGAIN!!!

 

[divinefavor]

Congratulations Serenity_Peace!!! I'm so happy for your girl!! Thanks for the encouragement!!!

 

[Serenity_Peace]

Thanks Serenity!!! I am devastated that maybe this relaxer has caused my hair to start shedding again after all of my hard work. I just did a scalp massage with Rosemary, Peppermint Oil, Castor Oil and a little bit of Garlic Oil. I CANNOT GO THROUGH THIS AGAIN!!!

Did you attempt to do a protein treatment or reconstructor? You may have to consider doing an Aphogee treatment if the shedding gets any worse. I do love the Rosemary, though. That's a great treatment. If you like Dominican products, try to get the Rosemary Capilo treatment. You do this before washing as a pre-poo. I love this stuff because it's so moisturizing as well. I lose very few hairs with this. I also think that low- to no-manipulation is working for me as well. It's been so difficult not combing or brushing, but I just keep my hair in the dreaded bun daily or almost daily.

Good luck with that treatment. I'd be surprised if the garlic doesn't work.

 

[Serenity_Peace]

Congratulations Serenity_Peace!!! I'm so happy for your girl!! Thanks for the encouragement!!!

You're welcome, dearest...

 

[Serenity_Peace]

Oh Serenity! I am sooooo happy for you!

OK. I won't give up! I won't. We wants PICS!

I know, JN. I promise that I will celebrate my progress with a new digital camera. In fact, I was looking at one today. I can't wait 'til December!

 

[victorious]

:waytogo:

Congratulations SP!!!

Looking forward to seeing your pics.

 

[GodsPromises]

Congrats S.P. and thanks so much for that. It doesn't seem like I will ever get pass the shoulder but I will keep at it. I just started taking vitamins so maybe that is what I need.

 

[ItsyBitsy]

Way to go Serenity!

 

[NoNapNique]

Hey Love!

How many weeks post relaxer are you?

I get a touch up every 7 weeks from now on because I tried stretching several times and in my 9th week, all "H-E-double hockey sticks" breaks loose. I lost a lot of hair and my stylist told me for MY hair, 8 weeks is too long.

Many of us with fine and thin hair shouldn't stretch for long periods like our sisters with thicker hair.[/quote]

I am just NOW getting that! After 2 years of struggling with my hair and NO progress! I guess I have to look forward to the next two years of REAL progress having learned SO much about my hair. I have also learned shampooing thin/fine hair is not good... From now on I will actually KEEP a little build-up on my strands to give it some support and stucture versus stripping it all off every week with shampoo.

 

[AtlantaJJ]

Hey Love!

How many weeks post relaxer are you?

I get a touch up every 7 weeks from now on because I tried stretching several times and in my 9th week, all "H-E-double hockey sticks" breaks loose. I lost a lot of hair and my stylist told me for MY hair, 8 weeks is too long.

Many of us with fine and thin hair shouldn't stretch for long periods like our sisters with thicker hair.[/quote]

I am just NOW getting that! After 2 years of struggling with my hair and NO progress! I guess I have to look forward to the next two years of REAL progress having learned SO much about my hair. I have also learned shampooing thin/fine hair is not good... From now on I will actually KEEP a little build-up on my strands to give it some support and stucture versus stripping it all off every week with shampoo.

I have just decided that shampoos with Sodium Lauryl Sulfate in them are the :angeldevi for our hair. I have a ton of them it appears that I am going to have a bond fire with them!:gotroasted:
What am I going to do with them all, use them as body wash?

 

[GodsPromises]

Ladies,

I need suggestions for a good every day moisturizer. My hair is on the dry side and I can't seem to find anything that works.

All suggestions are appreciated.

 

[gymfreak336]

Ladies,

I need suggestions for a good every day moisturizer. My hair is on the dry side and I can't seem to find anything that works.

All suggestions are appreciated.

I like cantu growth cure, ors olive oil cream (in the jar) and profectiv growth lotion. All of these leave my hair super soft without weighing it down. I seal with just a couple of drops of kemi oil.

 

[Cayenne0622]

Ladies,

I need suggestions for a good every day moisturizer. My hair is on the dry side and I can't seem to find anything that works.

All suggestions are appreciated.

The Kids Organic Shea Butter Detangling works great. Its light and creamy. SOmetimes I add a small squirt of s-curl in my hand and mix with it. I seal with coconut oil during the day and seal with castor oil at night.