Single, Saved, and Having Sex

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mshoney2u said:
My two cents and my story :)

I am 25 and trying to straighten out my life. I cant play with god and say that i am saved or trying to become saved because I am not lived that kinda of life. A year ago I made the conscious decision to lose my virginity to a boy that I still am with and love thank god. I feel a little on the hot sit when the subject of single, saved and sex comes into play. I know what I am doing is not right. The reason why we should not judge is because only GOD knows each and every one of our struggles. When the day comes to be judged HE will be the decision maker not man. In Blossssom defense I fell she is right for the most part the method was a bit harsh at first but she come back and says just keep the faith and do you the best you can. That’s all any of us can do. Having sex out side of marriage it is a SIN. If you are having it along with doing other name less things you cant sit here and say you are saved. You are STRUGGLING like me but you are not saved. I am sorry I fill you shouldn’t play with god like that you either going to sit on the pot and do something or get off all this gray stuff and straddling the fence don’t cut it. We all may not have the same opportunities but one thing that god gave us ALL is choices. NO MATTER WHAT the situation is we all have choices you can choose to do right or wrong. I don’t believe all sins are the same that’s MY opinion and I fell if you saying you are all are a Christian like me. I am struggling but Christian you would take my opinion if you don’t agree for what it is an opinion. Some of you say things or feel things that I don’t agree with but god is humble and Jesus is humble and I TRY to be humble and take an ideology for what it is and not chop some down for not holding the same belief as me.
I feel there are conscious sins and unconscious sins and they are not the same. I feel that god will judge you according to your situation to the sin you commit. I cant sit here and say that I think that me having sex and someone who didn’t have the same morals and up bring as me will judge the same. two different situations but the same sin. I don’t feel they weight the same that’s my opinion. Enough rambling I think that me included should take responsibility for your actions and stop trying to sugar coats things because we are gulity

My name is Dowanna
I am having sex before marriage.
It is a sin.
I am a struggling christian.

(the first step in changing is admitting you have a problem) ;)


Exactly...we are ALL struggling in some area or another.
 
Tonya said:
I AM SAVED. No one here can tell me that I am not. NONE of us are perfect adn we sin everyday without knowing it. That is where his GRACE AND MERCY comes in. Now i amnot going out syaing..."lord forgive me for sleeping with this man" doing it and still calling myself saved...God knows my heart...and my intentions...so NO ONE can tell me I am not saved or condemn me. We are ALL sinners and have fallen short. That does not mean make excuses and keep doing it....it just means pray fro strength and for god to help you to resist temptation. NO ONE is perfect. Do you think ministers adn pastors live perfect lvies? NO...they are human adn impefect jsut as we are. We are all trying to become more like him...so no one can look down and tell ANYONE that they are not saved. Furthermore, all sins are equal right? SO if someone is not saved because they fornicate...then another person is not saved for lting..or having an evil thought or what not.
As far as not being in churhc or in God becuase "I do not measure up" or what ever, my pastor teaches that we go to school to learn...to reach a certian place...pastors and preachers are teachers...they help us to learn as well. I go to church so that I can learn MORE about the word as God as well as praise him and thank him for what he has already done.


I agree! Christ says that "whosever beleives in Him shall not perish, but have everrlasting life". That means SAVED (from eternal damnation).

Being saved is not being without sin, it just means those sins were covered or paid for by Christ.

I am not advocating having sex outside of marriage. And I think a mature Christian who really is walking with Christ should fast/pray and move away from doing this. I think that those who continually do it are not living for the Lord and are grieving the spirit. But I will not save that their names aren't written on the Lamb's book of life.
 
melodee said:
I agree! Christ says that "whosever beleives in Him shall not perish, but have everrlasting life". That means SAVED (from eternal damnation).

Being saved is not being without sin, it just means those sins were covered or paid for by Christ.

I am not advocating having sex outside of marriage. And I think a mature Christian who really is walking with Christ should fast/pray and move away from doing this. I think that those who continually do it are not living for the Lord and are grieving the spirit. But I will not save that their names aren't written on the Lamb's book of life.


SIMPLE & SWEET. I agree completely.
 
Annakei said:
Ehh and that is what I call self righteous. MY PASTOR preaches that if you are struggling it means that you are only human, because we have all come short of the glory of God. *shrug* It isn't about excuses its about what really goes on with someone that truly struggles. This is why I love my church because thre isnt that holier than thou attitude that keeps the unsaved outside our doors. One of the things people say at my church is that they dont feel alienated because they happen to be struggling.

Its called the real world. I work in it and see it every day, so to me telling the lady with a crack habit that she is making excuses...sorry it doesnt work that way. Still HE knows her heart because SHE is truly blessed. Yea she smokes crack but if you knew her story you would know that although she knows she continually sins against her body, the Lord knows her heart and blesses her anyway. And yea she is committing a bunch of other sins too, still HE KNOWS her heart. I am sure that most of you committ sins daily...and it means that you are struggling....not that you are no longer a Christian Does it make you LESS of a Christian? I don't think so.

I tend to think that THAT attitude is why alot of the unsaved or "struggling" a weary of bringing themselves before a "Christian". Once you have accpeted salvation you become a Christian period. Struggles come here and there hell everyday, still you are a Christian struggling maybe more more than most.

Flame me if you need to but hey...its a dose of reality for ya! :)

Everyone has their interpretation of what salvation is, and I wouldn't flame you whether those were my words, which they weren't, or a radio minister's words that I happen to listen to.

Different interpretations is why you have so many different denominations within the Christian religion.

No one will know where they are going (heaven or hell) until it's all over :lachen:

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion on whether they are saved or not.
 
mshoney2u said:
My two cents and my story :)

I am 25 and trying to straighten out my life. I cant play with god and say that i am saved or trying to become saved because I am not lived that kinda of life. A year ago I made the conscious decision to lose my virginity to a boy that I still am with and love thank god. I feel a little on the hot sit when the subject of single, saved and sex comes into play. I know what I am doing is not right. The reason why we should not judge is because only GOD knows each and every one of our struggles. When the day comes to be judged HE will be the decision maker not man. In Blossssom defense I fell she is right for the most part the method was a bit harsh at first but she come back and says just keep the faith and do you the best you can. That’s all any of us can do. Having sex out side of marriage it is a SIN. If you are having it along with doing other name less things you cant sit here and say you are saved. You are STRUGGLING like me but you are not saved. I am sorry I fill you shouldn’t play with god like that you either going to sit on the pot and do something or get off all this gray stuff and straddling the fence don’t cut it. We all may not have the same opportunities but one thing that god gave us ALL is choices. NO MATTER WHAT the situation is we all have choices you can choose to do right or wrong. I don’t believe all sins are the same that’s MY opinion and I fell if you saying you are all are a Christian like me. I am struggling but Christian you would take my opinion if you don’t agree for what it is an opinion. Some of you say things or feel things that I don’t agree with but god is humble and Jesus is humble and I TRY to be humble and take an ideology for what it is and not chop some down for not holding the same belief as me.
I feel there are conscious sins and unconscious sins and they are not the same. I feel that god will judge you according to your situation to the sin you commit. I cant sit here and say that I think that me having sex and someone who didn’t have the same morals and up bring as me will judge the same. two different situations but the same sin. I don’t feel they weight the same that’s my opinion. Enough rambling I think that me included should take responsibility for your actions and stop trying to sugar coats things because we are gulity

My name is Dowanna
I am having sex before marriage.
It is a sin.
I am a struggling christian.

(the first step in changing is admitting you have a problem) ;)


Thank you for that and although I was merely quoting what the radio minister said, I believe what he said, too, and I've talked about living a Christ-like life if you truly are a Christian time and time again here.

And as I've also said time and time again, only the guilty cry out. And let me say THIS one more time, true enough, no one is perfect. But do you really think Christ would command you to do x, y, and z if you had to be perfect? I don't so. I don't think you have to be perfect to abstain from sex until marriage. I don't think you have to be perfect to honor your spouse and uphold your marriage vows. A lot of so-called Christians can't, won't and downright AIN'T going to do any of that, but they want the halo of salvation. Dream on.

Do you know I heard about a coalition last year where Christians who do live Christ-like lives are working to separate themselves from people who are Christians in name only? That's how bad it's gotten when it comes to people simply talking the talk but refusing to walk the walk.

If sex is that big of a struggle for you, find a Christian man and get married!
 
Tonya said:
Now i amnot going out syaing..."lord forgive me for sleeping with this man" doing it and still calling myself saved...God knows my heart...and my intentions...so NO ONE can tell me I am not saved or condemn me.

I'm glad you mentioned this. Back in the 80s when I thought I WAS a Christian, we used to go to youth seminaries. If you're not overly familiar with my posts, my father is a pastor, so I was raised in a Christian home.

Now, at these seminaries, there was a youth minister who would actually lecture about having sex with women, but then repenting by saying "Lord, Lord, forgive me for having sex with that woman", but then he would go out and do the same thing again. Sometimes he would even pray BEFORE he had sex and in that case, he would pray, "Lord, Lord, I know I'm about to fornicate, but please forgive me in advance". According to him, as long as you repent, repent, repent, you would always be forgiven and can still go to heaven. Uh YEA! I wish I was making this up!

And then we wonder with people like him running around why adultery and fornication, bank robbing, murdering and all kinds of other sins against God and humanity run amuck. If you know you're going to do wrong, just pray and ask for forgiveness. It never occurs that maybe you shouldn't be doing it anyway. Why cheat yourself when you can simply REPENT?

And I used to feel the same way you did, too, about "God knows my heart/my intentions". That was before I realized I wasn't truly a Christian and that I was fooling myself with the "God knows my heart", because in the end, if God knows my heart, that means I also knew his word, but I went contrary to it.

I stopped the game of deception about 7 years ago and have never felt freer!
 
Blossssom said:
I'm glad you mentioned this. Back in the 80s when I thought I WAS a Christian, we used to go to youth seminaries. If you're not overly familiar with my posts, my father is a pastor, so I was raised in a Christian home.

Now, at these seminaries, there was a youth minister who would actually lecture about having sex with women, but then repenting by saying "Lord, Lord, forgive me for having sex with that woman", but then he would go out and do the same thing again. Sometimes he would even pray BEFORE he had sex and in that case, he would pray, "Lord, Lord, I know I'm about to fornicate, but please forgive me in advance". According to him, as long as you repent, repent, repent, you would always be forgiven and can still go to heaven. Uh YEA! I wish I was making this up!

And then we wonder with people like him running around why adultery and fornication, bank robbing, murdering and all kinds of other sins against God and humanity run amuck. If you know you're going to do wrong, just pray and ask for forgiveness. It never occurs that maybe you shouldn't be doing it anyway. Why cheat yourself when you can simply REPENT?

And I used to feel the same way you did, too, about "God knows my heart/my intentions". That was before I realized I wasn't truly a Christian and that I was fooling myself with the "God knows my heart", because in the end, if God knows my heart, that means I also knew his word, but I went contrary to it.

I stopped the game of deception about 7 years ago and have never felt freer!


WOOOOOOOOOOOOOW











shew...........WOW...I'm speechless... I hope people read that.
 
Blossssom said:
I'm glad you mentioned this. Back in the 80s when I thought I WAS a Christian, we used to go to youth seminaries. If you're not overly familiar with my posts, my father is a pastor, so I was raised in a Christian home.

Now, at these seminaries, there was a youth minister who would actually lecture about having sex with women, but then repenting by saying "Lord, Lord, forgive me for having sex with that woman", but then he would go out and do the same thing again. Sometimes he would even pray BEFORE he had sex and in that case, he would pray, "Lord, Lord, I know I'm about to fornicate, but please forgive me in advance". According to him, as long as you repent, repent, repent, you would always be forgiven and can still go to heaven. Uh YEA! I wish I was making this up!

And then we wonder with people like him running around why adultery and fornication, bank robbing, murdering and all kinds of other sins against God and humanity run amuck. If you know you're going to do wrong, just pray and ask for forgiveness. It never occurs that maybe you shouldn't be doing it anyway. Why cheat yourself when you can simply REPENT?

And I used to feel the same way you did, too, about "God knows my heart/my intentions". That was before I realized I wasn't truly a Christian and that I was fooling myself with the "God knows my heart", because in the end, if God knows my heart, that means I also knew his word, but I went contrary to it.

I stopped the game of deception about 7 years ago and have never felt freer!
WOW just wow to the 1st bolded part. I never looked at it this way. THat is a good point.

My thing about sin, especially sexual sin, is that quit fronting... We all know the signs and steps and the path that leads to him actually getting on top of you and doing the deed. So lets stop saying I fell into sex sin. If you are going to do it, man/woman up and say, I'm horny, I want to have sex, I had sex or etc..... Just be real. Quit pretending like it just happened. Especially us grown folks. God gives plenty of warning signs of when you are in a relationship that is heading in that direction. He always gives a way of escape. Now if you choose to ignore it, that is on you, but don't walk around here like you are oblivious to what you are doing. You know what you are doing, God knows what you are doing. People are right, he does know our hearts. He knows when we are horny and even knows right before we are going to sex.

By the way, I'm not condeming anyone, I'm just speaking from my own experiences.
 
Honeyhips said:
WOW just wow to the 1st bolded part. I never looked at it this way. THat is a good point.

My thing about sin, especially sexual sin, is that quit fronting... We all know the signs and steps and the path that leads to him actually getting on top of you and doing the deed. So lets stop saying I fell into sex sin. If you are going to do it, man/woman up and say, I'm horny, I want to have sex, I had sex or etc..... Just be real. Quit pretending like it just happened. Especially us grown folks. God gives plenty of warning signs of when you are in a relationship that is heading in that direction. He always gives a way of escape. Now if you choose to ignore it, that is on you, but don't walk around here like you are oblivious to what you are doing. You know what you are doing, God knows what you are doing. People are right, he does know our hearts. He knows when we are horny and even knows right before we are going to sex.

By the way, I'm not condeming anyone, I'm just speaking from my own experiences.

Precisely! Lead us not into temptation! Don't allow yourself to be in a situation which would tempt you or cause to fall. Going to a man's house late at night, for example.

And as I've said, we all have control over our bodies, if not our thoughts. There is no excuse. Acknowledging it and embracing it is the first step to eliminating it.
 
mshoney2u said:
My two cents and my story :)

I think that me included should take responsibility for your actions and stop trying to sugar coats things because we are gulity

My name is Dowanna
I am having sex before marriage.
It is a sin.
I am a struggling christian.

(the first step in changing is admitting you have a problem) ;)

This is how I feel. Stop sugar coating stuff. If you have a problem say it, the truth will make you free. And then once you are free, don't walk around as if you never had a problem in that area.
 
Blossssom said:
Precisely! Lead us not into temptation! Don't allow yourself to be in a situation which would tempt you or cause to fall. Going to a man's house late at night, for example.

And as I've said, we all have control over our bodies, if not our thoughts. There is no excuse. Acknowledging it and embracing it is the first step to eliminating it.
Exactly... Stay out of those situations. The reason why I'm not dating now is b/c I'm not ready for marriage, so there is no since for me to date and dating with that mind set only leads to sex.

There is no excuse, the only excuse is, I wanted to have sex. When I lost my virginity (I was raised in the church, I knew the scripture. Although the way they are teaching it now may have stopped me from doing it), I wanted to do it. We had plenty of Pastors come in and teach us about abstaining. Even the guy I did it with was wondering why I choose him. I just wanted to do it. I didn't love him or have warm and fuzzy feelings towards him. I wanted to know what sex was like. Same thing happened after I stopped and started back. I wanted a boyfriend, and I wanted to have sex. I didn't fall into anything. I walked in the door, put my name on the list, and sat on down (or laid down:lachen: ).

I know we all commit sins without knowing what they are. Thank God for his grace, even for the ones we do know we are commiting. But I do think some things we do we know better, we just don't want to stop.

Now of course this does not mean that there are some out there who are in sex sin and don't know how to get out, or those that have some type of emotional thing going on and feel they can't stop. I'm specifically talking about us grown folk, that are healthy, saved, and know better. Or those who have back slid.

Again, I'm not condeming anyone, I just think it helps to be honest. You might even enjoy the sex more without the guilt. Seriously. No, I'm not conding it.
Or by being honest, God will make your way of escape even bigger, or just melt away the desire. I had this happen to me and I was shocked how the feelings just literally disappeared.
 
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Honeyhips said:
Exactly... Stay out of those situations. The reason why I'm not dating now is b/c I'm not ready for marriage, so there is no since for me to date and dating with that mind set only leads to sex.

There is no excuse, the only excuse is, I wanted to have sex. When I lost my virginity (I was raised in the church, I knew the scripture. Although the way they are teaching it now may have stopped me from doing it), I wanted to do it. We had plenty of Pastors come in and teach us about abstaining. Even the guy I did it with was wondering why I choose him. I just wanted to do it. I didn't love him or have warm and fuzzy feelings towards him. I wanted to know what sex was like. Same thing happened after I stopped and started back. I wanted a boyfriend, and I wanted to have sex. I didn't fall into anything. I walked in the door, put my name on the list, and sat on down (or laid down:lachen: ).

I know we all commit sins without knowing what they are. Thank God for his grace, even for the ones we do know we are commiting. But I do think some things we do we know better, we just don't want to stop.

And on that note, thread closed!

Seriously, that was totally on point! I couldn't agree more and have nothing further to add!

Good job!
 
Annakei said:
LOL! Read above...I think its a pretty weak argument formed out of emotions and not fact. A coalition? They only make themselves seem worse in the eyes of God for trying to be holier than thou...

What did Jesus tell the woman at the well after he saved her? Go and sin no more, right? Right.

Most of what is posted here on this board is a matter of opinion. You don't have to agree with it, including a lot of what you say.

Me guilty? Of what, dear? I'm not even a Christian, but I don't fornicate. What does that say about YOU who claims to be a Christian but does? :)

After you become saved that is when you lead a Christ-like life. Sure, Jesus died and paid for your sins, but he only paid for the sins of those that accepted him. After you accept Christ, if you're REALLY a Christian, your willful sins should have been greatly reduced. Again, it's in black and white the "dos" and the "don'ts". I see more so-called Christian doing what Jesus told them not to do, and nothing that he told them to do.

And of course, even if you are a Christian, you still sin because you live in a sin-filled world. Nothing you can do about that. You can't control your mind, either, which is filled with sinful thoughts. So yes, continue to pray and ask for forgiveness for living in a sinful body and have a sinful mind.

However, when you WILLFULLY disobey the commandments laid out for you, whose fault is that? Right, right, right. Jesus is suppose to die again for sins that you can control, too, right? How many times will you crucify Christ by willfully disobeying him?

One of my favorite scriptures is: If you love me, keep my commandments.

I'll say this one more time and then I'm done with this thread: ONLY THE GUILTY CRY OUT ;)

Get some tissue!

Oh and one more thing, the coalition I spoke of. Who can blame them for wanting to fellowship with like-minded individuals who truly take their religion seriously by following the teachings of their Lord and Savior?

What is so wrong for wanting to be around those who not only talk the walk but walk it, too, especially when you think about the churches of today. All the baby mama-ing and daddy-ing going on; fornication and adultery abound; from the pulpit to the sidewalk; the backbiting (look at what she wore to church); stealing from the church treasury, so forth and so on.

Good for the "coalition" for seeking to show society that people such as that are not of Christ's. Perhaps the Christians who following Christ's teachings should consider the term "Orthodox Christians" and people like those I mentioned who want to do their dirt, pray for forgiveness and do it again are "Unorthodox Christians"?

Works for me!

There's something to be said for
 
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Annakei said:
No, no tissue here. You are busy trying to make personal insults. LOL!!! If you knew me you would know that it takes alot mre than that...especialy on an internet forum. Dont you get it? You never win! :grin:

YES I FORNICATE!!! get over it... at least I can admit it....

can you? Only the guilty cry out? I say this....are you perfect? At least the majority of folks on the board can admit to their wrongs, you carry with the holier than thou stance, Christian or not. Get over yourself. I live my life how I see fit, and if I want to fornicate then I will. Am I taking something from your personal life or enjoyment? LOL!! Maybe its because I am actually getting some! :lachen: :lachen:

Sing me a song why dont ya..
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yaddadee yada daaaaa LOL!

And that's just the problem! You live your life as YOU see fit! Not the way CHRIST sees fit but YOU!

I rest my case! You have truly shown your true colors with this post, sister! :)

And no, I would never personally insult you. I used YOUR words! They were never mine. You are the one that wants to shack up with your "boyfriend", right? Yea, that's you, "Ms. Cohabitation... YAY OR NAY"! :)

Don't get mad because you didn't get the "affirmation" you wanted to continue wallowing in your SIN!

Heehee! PRICELESS! :look:

I really don't have anything further to say to you. You're a hypocrite and you support lawbreakers! You and I have NOTHING in common! Ciao!
 
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Annakei said:
There it is!!! If I needed affirmation then I would be seeking advice BEFORE the move. We made the move a while back so please, dont make yourself seem more important than you are. I just find you pitiful, thats all. **Shrug**

I'M A SHACKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL!! Get over it...am I stealing something from you? What does it mean to you if you arent even of the same belief? LOL!! Like I said I can admit to mine...can you? You lack the ability to see past your own nose...I had to show you the light. I am ashamed of nothing I do and who I am..thats why God loves me. Im not perfect, still he loves me. I seek nothing from you because YOU yourself are a hypocrite more than you think. I sought to hide nothing here, I just happened to show you that I can be ME and be proud of it. Judge me love me hate me..oh well!

Damn right I supprt them!! Awww whats the matter..they taking your welfare check?? Tough!! Get a job then!

More hypocritical remarks, huh? Well, if you're a Christian, I'd hate to see a "so-called" Christian! :)

Continue to hurl insults at me, a pitiful, welfare queen (that's a laugh). At least when I call you a hypocrite, it's the TRUTH!
 
Blossssom said:
More hypocritical remarks, huh? Well, if you're a Christian, I'd hate to see a "so-called" Christian! :)

Continue to hurl insults at me, a pitiful, welfare queen (that's a laugh). At least when I call you a hypocrite, it's the TRUTH!


Again, you have to remember, this is the internet, you can call me a hypocrite all you want. I think you are mistaken but the important truth is that you dont shape who I am. I DO. Again, get over it. I would gladly tell anyone I thought you didnt have anything else to say? You gonna let a hypocrite like me pull you back? :lachen: Why give me so much power? :)

Like I said, get over yourself, calling me names doesnt make me any lower or you any better.
 
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Annakei said:
Again, you have to remember, this is the internet, you can call me a hypocrite all you want. I think you are mistaken but the important truth is that you dont shape who I am. I DO. Again, get over it. I thought you didnt have anything else to say? You gonna let a hypocrite like me pull you back? :lachen: Why give me so much power? :)

Actually, I don't really have anything further to say about the discussion. I've said all I can say about sex outside of marriage and how it relates to Christianity.

I find you highly amusing, however, even if you're not a real person to any of us here.

Of course, we all realize it's the Internet, so maybe you're really not single, saved, and having sex?

Maybe you're single, not saved, and having sex...

See? :grin:
 
JuJuBoo said:
what the heck...this thread has gotten out of hand. Wasn't the point of this forum to uplift?

It surely has. It should be here to uplift.
Also, as a "baby in Christ" the example being set up in here is pretty sad in my opinion.
 
MeccaMedinah said:
It surely has. It should be here to uplift.
Also, as a "baby in Christ" the example being set up in here is pretty sad in my opinion.

Please don't let anything negative on this board influence you. Continue to read your Bible, strive to do the right thing and always pray.

The Bible is God's guidebook to healthy living.
 
JuJuBoo said:
what the heck...this thread has gotten out of hand. Wasn't the point of this forum to uplift?

A lot of the threads here on in the Christanity forum end up this way. I see why a lot of members who are reaching out to Christ avoid this forum. :nono:
 
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Do we all sin? YES

If any man be in Christ and see his brother sin should he correct his brother in Christ with love and kindness if he is not struggling with the same sin? YES

Now Blosssom, don't take offense to this, but I believe that Annakei doesn't feel as though you corrected her with love and kindness. ;)

Just my $.02
 
Bickering aside ( :P ) this thread has given me a lot of food for thought.

And I have to ask God for more guidance on just how I live in general. I know how I feel on the subject of sex outside of marriage, but the way others are responding is the exact same way I feel about other areas that I'm struggling with.

We just need to stay prayerful, and ask God to give us wisdom, and a mind more like His.
 
Annakei said:
Who is pretending? We are ALLL GROWN WOMEN. Whoever is fronting then leave that to them but I dont recall anyone saying that...ohh it just happens. No you willingly have sex but its something that most still struggle with.

Again the deeper issue is putting to the forefront fornication when there are MORE SINS that folks minimize for their own personal reasons.
I talked about fornication b/c that is what this thread was about. Fornication is mentioned because that is one of the more obvious ones. Even non christians know that sex before marraige is prohibitted for Christians. But if you want I'll generalize it for all sins, if you have a problem with lying, stealing, envy, rage, and being kind (just to name a few), don't front, admit it. Once you admit it you can be set free.

My first post clearly stated my probelm with sex sin. It also said I was not condemning anyone. I thought that was enough to show that I was not against anyone in this thread. I just came in with a random opinion. I don't even think I was on topic.It was not directed towards anyone. If it was, I would have quoted that person and directed my comments towards them.

Seriously, I cant wait for the skeletons to start DROPPIN out the closet!
I'm not sure if you are trying to call me out or not. But I openly share about my life, especially if it can help someone. Even on the board. Of course it is easier and more noticeable to do in person.
 
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Koffie said:
Now Blosssom, don't take offense to this, but I believe that Annakei doesn't feel as though you corrected her with love and kindness. ;)

WHOOOOOPS! Anna doesn't have to worry about me correcting her again in ANY fashion... EVER :lol:

Hey, Koffie! How's it shakin'? Haven't seen you in a while. Hope things are going well, sweets! :)
 
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Honeyhips said:
I talked about fornication b/c that is what this thread was about. Fornication is mentioned because that is one of the more obvious ones. Even non christians know that sex before marraige is prohibitted for Christians. But if you want I'll generalize it for all sins, if you have a problem with lying, stealing, envy, rage, and being kind (just to name a few), don't front, admit it. Once you admit it you can be set free.

My first post clearly stated my probelm with sex sin. It also said I was not condemning anyone. I thought that was enough to show that I was not against anyone in this thread. I just came in with a random opinion. I don't even think I was on topic.It was not directed towards anyone. If it was, I would have quoted that person and directed my comments towards them.

I'm not sure if you are trying to call me out or not. But I openly share about my life, especially if it can help someone. Even on the board. Of course it is easier and more noticeable to do in person.



You are taking my comment out of context and frankly I have no desire to continue this thread, its aleady gotten out of hand. REally, there is no need to justify your comment.
 
Umm, this thread has gotten a bit out of hand, yeah, but back to topic.

I have never read this ladies book, but I have seen here quite a few times on specials and needless to say she is RAW in addressing the issue of single Christians having sex. No holds barred, talks about masturbation and other "taboo" topics regarding sex.

It was not to long ago that I found myself "Single, Saved, and Having Sex" (and lots of it). And frankly, being honest, at that time, I was not reading my Word nor praying that much (and right now truth be told, I need to be more into both more heavily than I am now). But I found that when I started reading my Word and praying and building a rlp with God, the Holy Spirit would reveal things to me that needed to change. Now some of these things were very evident, such as the premarital sex, but other things were inward or changes that would seem minor to someone looking from the outside, but meant everything to the God I serve.

One thing I learned in the area of dealing with sins particularly sex before marriage is that things would only change when I was ready to deal with the issue. I think sometimes we don't want to deal with the issue, and often times we label things as a struggle or a stronghold in our lives that are not necessarily so (all in all, we give certain sins too much power in our lives and in the church, particularly gossip, but back to topic). Now don't get my wrong, I am not saying that people do not honestly struggle with premarital sex or any other sin for that matter, and we all have to deal with sin on a daily basis, but I am saying is if you are to be honest with yourself, is it an area that is truly a stronghold, or an area where you have not dealt with the issue? For me personally, when I look back I know that it was an area that I had not dealt with the issue. I had not read, prayed, fasted, kept God's Word in my mouth, and set appropiate boundaries by the HS as to what was too "far", so how could I expect victory in this area? When I had done all these things and committed to doing things God's way, guess what I never had problems in this area again. Now I was tried, and tested, but I leaned on HS and let Him provide my way of escape according to 1 Cor 10:13.

Now to those who are overcomers in this area, congrats! To those who have not dealt with the issue or this is a stronghold in your life, I encourage you to continue to press toward your higher calling in him (Php 3:14). Meditate on the Word of God and be real with Him in prayer. And don't be discouraged if you slip up or make a mistake. Just repent before him and keep walking with him and casting your cares upon him, for His yoke is easy and his burden is light (Mt 11:30). Never give up!!!!
 
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