Single, Saved, and Having Sex

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How weird is this. Me and one of my close friends were talking about this book less than 2 hours ago. I haven't read it but my friend said it is mad RAW. The author talkes about EVERYTHING (sex, masterbation, intimacy, pornography, homosexuality, etc)and doesn't sugar coat it in the least. I read a few excerpts. It's no joke.
 
shellzfoshizzle said:
No, I haven't but it sounds like a good book based on the title.

It does have an interesting title, but I wonder how can you be single, saved and having sex?

The last two definitely don't go hand in hand.
 
Blossssom said:
It does have an interesting title, but I wonder how can you be single, saved and having sex?

The last two definitely don't go hand in hand.




Could it be cause, although u maybe saved, WE all fall short in the eyes of GOD. Saved folks are still sinners in one form or another. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong......
 
Honeycomb, I definitely don't believe that one sin is greater or lesser than another, but having sex is something that you can DEFINITELY walk away from. . .if you think int's a sin.
 
classimami713 said:
Honeycomb, I definitely don't believe that one sin is greater or lesser than another, but having sex is something that you can DEFINITELY walk away from. . .if you think int's a sin.

Thank you for SAVING me from having to answer ;)
 
I think the title, if I'm not mistaken, is addressing the issue of single/saved Christians having sex. One sin is not greater than the other but the bible clearly states that sex before marriage is wrong, there is no way to justify it. And no, I'm not judging anyone because I struggle in this area as well.
 
classimami713 said:
Honeycomb, I definitely don't believe that one sin is greater or lesser than another, but having sex is something that you can DEFINITELY walk away from. . .if you think int's a sin.




Yes I believe sex outside of marriage is a sin. But, walking away from it, may come easier to some then it do others.....
As a fellow Christian, my walk in Christ is going to be completely different from yours (thats if your Christian) and the same goes for anyone else.

I have yet to read the book,so I cant say what the authors intentions are. I do wish to read it soon. But, I dont think she's trying to give the ok to have sex, "I THINK" it may be more along the lines of speaking to those who struggle w/ being saved, and sex.
 
pearlygurl said:
I think the title, if I'm not mistaken, is addressing the issue of single/saved Christians having sex. One sin is not greater than the other but the bible clearly states that sex before marriage is wrong, there is no way to justify it. And no, I'm not judging anyone because I struggle in this area as well.

I just don't see where the struggle is. It's in black and white NO SEX OUTSIDE OF MARRIAGE.

There will always be involuntary sins, such as a dirty thought, but we have the ultimate power over our bodies.
 
honeycomb719 said:
Yes I believe sex outside of marriage is a sin. But, walking away from it, may come easier to some then it do others.....
As a fellow Christian, my walk in Christ is going to be completely different from yours (thats if your Christian) and the same goes for anyone else.
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Oh yeah, I agree with you :up:
 
classimami713 said:
honeycomb719 said:
Yes I believe sex outside of marriage is a sin. But, walking away from it, may come easier to some then it do others.....
As a fellow Christian, my walk in Christ is going to be completely different from yours (thats if your Christian) and the same goes for anyone else.
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Oh yeah, I agree with you :up:

If you're a Christian, there is only ONE walk that is going to get you into the Kingdom.
 
Blossssom said:
classimami713 said:
If you're a Christian, there is only ONE walk that is going to get you into the Kingdom.


I dont disagree w/ that at all, but the things u encounter, and go through that develops u along the way, is what I speak of. Thats where the difference comes about.....
 
honeycomb719 said:
Blossssom said:
I dont disagree w/ that at all, but the things u encounter, and go through that develops u along the way, is what I speak of. Thats where the difference comes about.....

I see what you're saying now, Honey... just keep the faith and do the best you can. That's all any of us can do.
 
I haven't read her book but she came to a women's conference at my church and ministered to the single people. I believe she is talking about the christian that struggles with sexuality which is very common among christian young and old. I think part of her book is a testimony to her walk when she was a single christian and having sex and God corrected her on it. She's using her testimony to encourage others.
 
I've never read that particular book. I struggle with other sins a WHOLE lot but sex isn't my down fall so far, God willing. I guess what I can say is that a huge culprit here is American media whereby sex is made to be a huge deal. I grew up in 3rd world Africa and it was a whole lot easier to abstain because your mind was occupied with other things. When I first came to America I was struck by the whole sexual tv atmosphere, now I'm used to it. I do know that we are tempted by our own desires (can't remember where that verse is).
 
Blossssom said:
I just don't see where the struggle is. It's in black and white NO SEX OUTSIDE OF MARRIAGE.

There will always be involuntary sins, such as a dirty thought, but we have the ultimate power over our bodies.

I know sex outside of marriage is wrong, I am not struggling about that. What I was trying to say was that it is a daily struggle to do what's right.
 
Blossssom said:
It does have an interesting title, but I wonder how can you be single, saved and having sex?

The last two definitely don't go hand in hand.
I think she is talking about how wrong it is and h ow to avoid the traps. When I saw the book a few years ago, I didn't get the impression she was condoning sex. Just acknowledging that there are some saved people who do.
 
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honeycomb719 said:
Could it be cause, although u maybe saved, WE all fall short in the eyes of GOD. Saved folks are still sinners in one form or another. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong......

You are so right. We ALL have struggles...I don;t know about yall but I am yet to be perfect. Awhile ago I mad e the comment that Jesus was not perfect...WHOOPS...I apoogize for my ignorance...I was thinking about when old folks say "They hated Jesus" ...anyway Jesus is the ONLY one that is perfect adn I attend church so that I can continue to make changes to be more like him.
 
shunemite said:
I've never read that particular book. I struggle with other sins a WHOLE lot but sex isn't my down fall so far, God willing. I guess what I can say is that a huge culprit here is American media whereby sex is made to be a huge deal. I grew up in 3rd world Africa and it was a whole lot easier to abstain because your mind was occupied with other things. When I first came to America I was struck by the whole sexual tv atmosphere, now I'm used to it. I do know that we are tempted by our own desires (can't remember where that verse is).

Perfect example of how everyone's walk is different. Sex is one of THE HARDEST sins for me to abstain from. I do, but it's THE hardest for me. It's the only thing I can say I actually 'STRUGGLE' with on a regular basis. Besides cursing :look:
 
Annakei said:
Tell that to the crack head...the woman who shoots heroin and sells her body for money....these are sins that humans suppsedly have control over because we have "control" over our bodies.

Yes it is written in black and white but it goes a bit deeper. There is NO SIN that is GREATER than the other and we all struggle with some form of sin of a daily basis whether known or unknown, its all the same. It may not be something that YOU struggle with but it doesnt help to minimize someone else's struggle. It is written in black and white but the struggle lies in the GRAY area.

My radio minister teaches that if you have to struggle to do right and to live a Christ-like life, you aren't saved.

He teaches that it comes natural to live a Christ-like life and if you're struggling to do so, you should continue to pray, pray and pray some more for salvation, because you have not received it.

But, to each his own. We all have excuses as to why we can't or won't do God's will.
 
Blossssom said:
My radio minister teaches that if you have to struggle to do right and to live a Christ-like life, you aren't saved.

He teaches that it comes natural to live a Christ-like life and if you're struggling to do so, you should continue to pray, pray and pray some more for salvation, because you have not received it.

But, to each his own. We all have excuses as to why we can't or won't do God's will.
Sad.......but so true,girl!
 
Blossssom said:
My radio minister teaches that if you have to struggle to do right and to live a Christ-like life, you aren't saved. That is crap and I would telll him that to his face. No disrespect intended but seriously, we live in the REAL world where most people werent brought up in the church since they were three years old.

He teaches that it comes natural to live a Christ-like life and if you're struggling to do so, you should continue to pray, pray and pray some more for salvation, because you have not received it.

But, to each his own. We all have excuses as to why we can't or won't do God's will.


Ehh and that is what I call self righteous. MY PASTOR preaches that if you are struggling it means that you are only human, because we have all come short of the glory of God. *shrug* It isn't about excuses its about what really goes on with someone that truly struggles. This is why I love my church because thre isnt that holier than thou attitude that keeps the unsaved outside our doors. One of the things people say at my church is that they dont feel alienated because they happen to be struggling.

Its called the real world. I work in it and see it every day, so to me telling the lady with a crack habit that she is making excuses...sorry it doesnt work that way. Still HE knows her heart because SHE is truly blessed. Yea she smokes crack but if you knew her story you would know that although she knows she continually sins against her body, the Lord knows her heart and blesses her anyway. And yea she is committing a bunch of other sins too, still HE KNOWS her heart. I am sure that most of you committ sins daily...and it means that you are struggling....not that you are no longer a Christian Does it make you LESS of a Christian? I don't think so.

I tend to think that THAT attitude is why alot of the unsaved or "struggling" a weary of bringing themselves before a "Christian". Once you have accpeted salvation you become a Christian period. Struggles come here and there hell everyday, still you are a Christian struggling maybe more more than most.

Flame me if you need to but hey...its a dose of reality for ya! :)
 
Annakei said:
Ehh and that is what I call self righteous. MY PASTOR preaches that if you are struggling it means that you are only human, because we have all come short of the glory of God. *shrug* It isn't about excuses its about what really goes on with someone that truly struggles. This is why I love my church because thre isnt that holier than thou attitude that keeps the unsaved outside our doors. One of the things people say at my church is that they dont feel alienated because they happen to be struggling.

Its called the real world. I work in it and see it every day, so to me telling the lady with a crack habit that she is making excuses...sorry it doesnt work that way. Still HE knows her heart because SHE is truly blessed. Yea she smokes crack but if you knew her story you would know that although she knows she continually sins against her body, the Lord knows her heart and blesses her anyway. And yea she is committing a bunch of other sins too, still HE KNOWS her heart. I am sure that most of you committ sins daily...and it means that you are struggling....not that you are no longer a Christian Does it make you LESS of a Christian? I don't think so.

I tend to think that THAT attitude is why alot of the unsaved or "struggling" a weary of bringing themselves before a "Christian". Once you have accpeted salvation you become a Christian period. Struggles come here and there hell everyday, still you are a Christian struggling maybe more more than most.

Flame me if you need to but hey...its a dose of reality for ya! :)

Girl you betta PREACH!
 
My two cents and my story :)

I am 25 and trying to straighten out my life. I cant play with god and say that i am saved or trying to become saved because I am not lived that kinda of life. A year ago I made the conscious decision to lose my virginity to a boy that I still am with and love thank god. I feel a little on the hot sit when the subject of single, saved and sex comes into play. I know what I am doing is not right. The reason why we should not judge is because only GOD knows each and every one of our struggles. When the day comes to be judged HE will be the decision maker not man. In Blossssom defense I fell she is right for the most part the method was a bit harsh at first but she come back and says just keep the faith and do you the best you can. That’s all any of us can do. Having sex out side of marriage it is a SIN. If you are having it along with doing other name less things you cant sit here and say you are saved. You are STRUGGLING like me but you are not saved. I am sorry I fill you shouldn’t play with god like that you either going to sit on the pot and do something or get off all this gray stuff and straddling the fence don’t cut it. We all may not have the same opportunities but one thing that god gave us ALL is choices. NO MATTER WHAT the situation is we all have choices you can choose to do right or wrong. I don’t believe all sins are the same that’s MY opinion and I fell if you saying you are all are a Christian like me. I am struggling but Christian you would take my opinion if you don’t agree for what it is an opinion. Some of you say things or feel things that I don’t agree with but god is humble and Jesus is humble and I TRY to be humble and take an ideology for what it is and not chop some down for not holding the same belief as me.
I feel there are conscious sins and unconscious sins and they are not the same. I feel that god will judge you according to your situation to the sin you commit. I cant sit here and say that I think that me having sex and someone who didn’t have the same morals and up bring as me will judge the same. two different situations but the same sin. I don’t feel they weight the same that’s my opinion. Enough rambling I think that me included should take responsibility for your actions and stop trying to sugar coats things because we are gulity

My name is Dowanna
I am having sex before marriage.
It is a sin.
I am a struggling christian.

(the first step in changing is admitting you have a problem) ;)

 
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I AM SAVED. No one here can tell me that I am not. NONE of us are perfect adn we sin everyday without knowing it. That is where his GRACE AND MERCY comes in. Now i amnot going out syaing..."lord forgive me for sleeping with this man" doing it and still calling myself saved...God knows my heart...and my intentions...so NO ONE can tell me I am not saved or condemn me. We are ALL sinners and have fallen short. That does not mean make excuses and keep doing it....it just means pray fro strength and for god to help you to resist temptation. NO ONE is perfect. Do you think ministers adn pastors live perfect lvies? NO...they are human adn impefect jsut as we are. We are all trying to become more like him...so no one can look down and tell ANYONE that they are not saved. Furthermore, all sins are equal right? SO if someone is not saved because they fornicate...then another person is not saved for lting..or having an evil thought or what not.
As far as not being in churhc or in God becuase "I do not measure up" or what ever, my pastor teaches that we go to school to learn...to reach a certian place...pastors and preachers are teachers...they help us to learn as well. I go to church so that I can learn MORE about the word as God as well as praise him and thank him for what he has already done.
 
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