Should'nt WE give Credit??

[Guest]

Should\'nt WE give Credit??

I've seen alot of people saying they learned much here at LHCF but most of the information is just shared info from other sources.

LIke the Ponytail/Air Dry thing is from Gray. Lots of info is from Howse. Crown Method, etc.

But there are things that people do give credit to the one who it was taken from.

LIke where did the Conditioner Wash Initate.?

The Baggie trick?

I agree there is alot of info here, but we should give credit where credit is due.

 

[karezone]

Re: Should\'nt WE give Credit??

I thought that the baggie trick came from Adrienne, because I had never heard of it. Leaving conditioner on overnight is something that my Mom taught me and that olive oil is good for hair. She also says that highlights, curling irons, and relaxing more than once every three months causes hair to fall out.

 

[butterfly7]

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I think we like to say we have learned a lot here at LHCF because it's where a wealth of information is being shared in a centralized location. Also, it's more of an interaction between people rather than just reading a book. I feel that although info may have come from another source, if I got it here, this is where I learned it. (And just because someone was the first to write a book about something doesn't mean they were the first to do it.)

Just my 2 cents.

 

[Allandra]

Re: Should\'nt WE give Credit??

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butterfly7 said:
I think we like to say we have learned a lot here at LHCF because it's where a wealth of information is being shared in a centralized location. Also, it's more of an interaction between people rather than just reading a book. I feel that although info may have come from another source, if I got it here, this is where I learned it. (And just because someone was the first to write a book about something doesn't mean they were the first to do it.)

Just my 2 cents.



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D I T T O

 

[JenJen2721]

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Allandra said:
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butterfly7 said:
I think we like to say we have learned a lot here at LHCF because it's where a wealth of information is being shared in a centralized location. Also, it's more of an interaction between people rather than just reading a book. I feel that although info may have come from another source, if I got it here, this is where I learned it. (And just because someone was the first to write a book about something doesn't mean they were the first to do it.)

Just my 2 cents.



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ditto, ditto.

 

[Nonie]

Re: Should\'nt WE give Credit??

I agree with Butterfly; people usually thank the one that gives them a gift not necessarily the maker. And I think the inventors/founders of these methods that we learn from LHCF do get their glory from either just the mention of their names every now and then, or just from seeing their idea being used. I know if I started a trend and people thought it was the hottest thing to hit earth, I'd be oh so proud whether they praised me for it or not. There's great satisfaction in just knowing you made a difference.

 

[ChocoKitty]

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Ditto, Ditto & Ditto!

 

[Allandra]

Re: Should\'nt WE give Credit??

It would be hard to 'give credit where credit is due' for every method that's discussed here at the LHCF. IMO, I just don't think it's possible. Just my two cents.

 

[HoneyRockette]

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Ditto yet again. Besides, some of these methods have been floating around so much throughout the years that we don't even know its TRUE origin. Just because it is in someone's book doesn't mean they thought of it. Adrienne and Faith and millions of women before them discovered that braids are effective for growing hair long before Robin put up her website. So who gets the credit? I agree to just thank the person who introduced it to the board.

 

[HoneyRockette]

Re: Should\'nt WE give Credit??

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karezone said:
I thought that the baggie trick came from Adrienne, because I had never heard of it.

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I remember seeing the baggie thing years ago on the web because I remember going out in a rain storm to buy baggies. I think it was from the BHC or BHSGO.

 

[Guest]

Re: Should\'nt WE give Credit??

Well, I'd kinda like to know where it origniated. I know that people do variations of things and I'd like to read up on the orignal.

Most ideas, are'nt written in a book. I could be a mag, or website, wherever. I'm particualy interested in the orgin of cond. washes to see what benefit the person receieved who long they did it, was there a specific cond that they used, etc.

Or ACV Rinse.

 

[Guest]

Re: Should\'nt WE give Credit??

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Allandra said:
It would be hard to 'give credit where credit is due' for every method that's discussed here at the LHCF. IMO, I just don't think it's possible. Just my two cents.

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Well I know not everything, but when possible like I said just so people can read up on the original idea. Like I remember a receipe that was posted but it kept gettin changed and variated. If one had the orignal source they could find it.

It's kinda like telephone by the time it's passed around enough it's completely different.

 

[Guest]

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**. And I think the inventors/founders of these methods that we learn from LHCF do get their glory from either just the mention of their names every now and then**

Well, I don't know about that. LOL Like poor Brenda, who has a copyrright on her report and says it's illegal to copy for distribution, I don't think it pleased her to see it all over the internet for free.

But that's something that can't be helped, unless they get like the music industry.

 

[adrienne0914]

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i first learned of the baggie trick at BHSGO, but it was related there from someone at BHC. i learned of using curl activator at BHSGO from devjam. so thanks BHSGO and devjam!!

 

[Guest]

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I remember going out in a rain storm to buy baggies.

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LOL @ In a rainstorm??

 

[HoneyRockette]

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Those were desperate times Mindy, desperate times.

 

[Tracy]

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I think the other thing is the focus on LHCF has NEVER been about the giving or taking of credit - it's about sharing, and all of the comraderie and mutual concern that word connotes.

I also don't think anyone who "originated" a trick (and I agree with butterfly and her premise on this point) would feel, or does feel (if the orginator orginated here - say that three times fast

) that anyone is NOT giving them credit where credit it due. I think the very fact that the methods continue to be used, and shared, by one after another after another, that comes to this board, supercedes and surpasses verbal credit...it is flattery in its arguably most sincere form - imitation. And I would even go as far as to say - it is THIS kind of flattery, that those who share are actually seeking out. The USE of their methods for the BENEFIT of others, and the further SHARING of those methods, with or without credit, so that people have ways and means - perhaps as never before - to improve themselves.

As an ancillary point - I also think if one truly wants to know where a more widespread practice orginated (like ponytail drying - and widespread as opposed to the baggie trick - which I'm pretty sure is a little more specific to hair boards) then they are certainly free to seek it out. But that's what research is - it's seeking out the information you desire - not having someone hand it to you - even if it would be a little more convenient.

And the other beautiful thing about research (if research can be called beautiful in any context

) as you seek out the information you desire - you find other information that you mayn't have even known was out there - and that peaks your personal interest (and maybe answers your questions) all the more.

 

[lunalight7]

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Well put Tracy.

 

[Tracy]

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Thank you Luna Cahuna....

How's that UAN working out in the longer haul?

 

[cutebajangirl]

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Tracy,
I love your avatar.

 

[Guest]

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cutebajangirl said:
Tracy,
I love your avatar.

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Me too, I just now noticed that he was seeing himself as a lion....(raar !)

Yes, tracy, I agree. However sometimes it's not so simple like I did a Yahoo search on Ponytail Method (even though I know this one) just to see what came up. I got

This as #1
2. Porn, Boxing, Miscellaneous Thoughts on Age and Aging, Tennis ...

And Im really curious as to what this has to do with it.

But I did'nt dare look.

Carolyn Gray came up on #15

Just after
14. Linux Today - The Economist: The Ponytail Versus the Penguin

Boy just save alot o headache if you knew what/who you were lookin for quote the source.

Edited to add: I forgot about our "How to" Thread (Great Thread) It includes links to the sources.

**zippin to search to see if there's a CO Wash How too**

 

[Guest]

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[karezone]

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Let's just give an all around thanks to everyone who ever thought to do anything we are currently doing.

 

[Laela]

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butterfly7 said:
I think we like to say we have learned a lot here at LHCF because it's where a wealth of information is being shared in a centralized location. Also, it's more of an interaction between people rather than just reading a book. I feel that although info may have come from another source, if I got it here, this is where I learned it. (And just because someone was the first to write a book about something doesn't mean they were the first to do it.)

Just my 2 cents.



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ITA

 

[sbg4evr]

Re: Should\'nt WE give Credit??

All the "methods" you mentionned were not invented by the people you quote they just put it in a book or a website. I was doing something similar to crown method 15 years ago and grow ear length hair to almost bra strap in less than one year. I was doing conditioner washes 3 years ago when I was texturized and did not know other people were doing that until I came to this board. I was using curl activator on my hair when I had braids 15 years ago. I thought I invented the baggie method many years ago and then I found out other people were doing the same thing on hair boards.

It is so hard to give credit to those who publish especially when many of these "methods" were done for years before they decided to publish it in a nice package.

 

[myco]

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I agree.

 

[Guest]

Re: Should\'nt WE give Credit??

SBG4ever, How did you hear about the Conditioner Washes?

Or did you just decide to do it.

I was reading on Hairboutique that a lady accidentally grabbed the cond while in the shower rather than the shampoo, when it did'nt lather like she thought she realized smething was wrong.

But then saw a benefit from it. But she said she had heard about CO but never tried.

 

[Tracy]

Re: Should\'nt WE give Credit??

As far as I know Mindy - the conditioner wash method was most recently memorialized in a book called "Curly Girl"....

This was the "source" I heard mentioned most frequently when I first started reading about co washes....

I see what you're saying about research - it is a pain. But it's almost worht it when you find that gem of info that you were looking for....it's kinda like childbirth - you forget all about the agony once you "see" the reward....

Right Moms????

::::a childless Tracy ducks the hurled tomatoes::::

P.S. Thanks for the compliments on the avatar guys.

I just LOVE it. I just love kitties, and I need to see that image all day everyday as a reminder....you are what YOU THINK you are....

 

[dontspeakdefeat]

Re: Should\'nt WE give Credit??

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Laela said:
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butterfly7 said:
I think we like to say we have learned a lot here at LHCF because it's where a wealth of information is being shared in a centralized location. Also, it's more of an interaction between people rather than just reading a book. I feel that although info may have come from another source, if I got it here, this is where I learned it. (And just because someone was the first to write a book about something doesn't mean they were the first to do it.)

Just my 2 cents.



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ITA

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I agree too!

 

[free2bme]

Re: Should\'nt WE give Credit??

I agree with Tracy & Butterly. We need to give ourselves a collective pat on the back. The fact of the matter is that all sorts of ideas can be thrown about but the ladies on this forum take the time to question the validity of these ideas and even go the extent of being personal guinea pigs. We share and trust the info we give out. The suggestions that are brought up on this forum always have me listening b/c I know most of the women (and men) are honest and aren't not trying to sabotage each others long hair efforts.

Personally, I couldn't careless who originated it, if my fellow LHCF members tell me it tried & true, it's worth more to me than any "professional book".