Self Relaxers who don't use gloves - Have you tried "Gloves in a Bottle?"

Ms Kain

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Hi all! It's another Quasi-newbie here! :grin:

I want to ask a question to all of the ladies who self relax but don't use gloves or a tint brush because it's hard to feel the new growth or detect the demarcation line. Have any of you ever tried "Gloves in a Bottle Shielding Lotion"?

I ask because as much as I love my stylist (I think she may be the only Dominican hairstylist in all of Phoenix!) it just hit me that I really should learn to self relax so that when I move back to the east coast, I can still look good while I look for someone new to do my hair. The last time I tried to self relax, I under processed it and I think it was because I used gloves and couldn't feel the new growth properly. This time I want to try it without gloves but if I do, I don't want the chemicals to ruin my hands over time either. That's what made me think about "Gloves in a Bottle".

I actually think this product was originally designed for those who work in the medical profession because my friend's aunt is a nurse and I saw her with it but I don't think it's literally a glove. From what I read online it states that it is a "non greasy, non-sticky, hypoallergenic & completely safe hand protection shielding lotion that is an ideal skin safeguard" and that it "rapidly absorbs into & bonds with the outer layer of skin providing a protective glove-like coating, that comes off naturally with exfoliated skin cells after at least 4 hours."

I figure any protection is better than none, right? :crossfingers:

Annnywhoooo, if anybody has used this while applying a relaxer, would you please chime in and let me know what you thought about it? Also here's an Amazon link just in case you need it to jog your memory.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hair-Tools-Gloves-Moisturizing-Shielding/dp/B0013JXUNG

Ok that's it! I hope I get some feedback on this but I'm just days from ordering it so if anyone has any experience with it, please let us all know!

Thanks in advance you guys! Not just for this but for all of the advice given on this board! It's been great! :grouphug:
 

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Hi all! It's another Quasi-newbie here! :grin:

I want to ask a question to all of the ladies who self relax but don't use gloves or a tint brush because it's hard to feel the new growth or detect the demarcation line. Have any of you ever tried "Gloves in a Bottle Shielding Lotion"?

I ask because as much as I love my stylist (I think she may be the only Dominican hairstylist in all of Phoenix!) it just hit me that I really should learn to self relax so that when I move back to the east coast, I can still look good while I look for someone new to do my hair. The last time I tried to self relax, I under processed it and I think it was because I used gloves and couldn't feel the new growth properly. This time I want to try it without gloves but if I do, I don't want the chemicals to ruin my hands over time either. That's what made me think about "Gloves in a Bottle".

I actually think this product was originally designed for those who work in the medical profession because my friend's aunt is a nurse and I saw her with it but I don't think it's literally a glove. From what I read online it states that it is a "non greasy, non-sticky, hypoallergenic & completely safe hand protection shielding lotion that is an ideal skin safeguard" and that it "rapidly absorbs into & bonds with the outer layer of skin providing a protective glove-like coating, that comes off naturally with exfoliated skin cells after at least 4 hours."

I figure any protection is better than none, right? :crossfingers:

Annnywhoooo, if anybody has used this while applying a relaxer, would you please chime in and let me know what you thought about it? Also here's an Amazon link just in case you need it to jog your memory.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hair-Tools-Gloves-Moisturizing-Shielding/dp/B0013JXUNG

Ok that's it! I hope I get some feedback on this but I'm just days from ordering it so if anyone has any experience with it, please let us all know!

Thanks in advance you guys! Not just for this but for all of the advice given on this board! It's been great! :grouphug:




~ Ms. Blaize


Regarding the bolded: Relaxers contain extremely invasive chemicals. They can burn the scalp for a reason, and in what... a matter of minutes? A reaction on your hands can be just as instant, rather than gradual. I've never used this product, but I shy away from the concept, just knowing how damaging a relaxer can be on the skin. And if this product is meant for medical professionals, wouldn't that mean the ingredients in it are formulated to ward off things like infections? That takes a strong formula. Who is to say that the ingredients won't react badly to the relaxer itself and still incur damage to your hands, scalp, or hair?

EDIT: picture removed...


There are alternatives. Some self-relaxers here have mentioned using things like clips to mark the line of demarcation. Others have used products to coat the already processed hair and leaving the new growth untouched, thus creating a clear distinction between the two textures. This is something that I do, and will be doing that in conjunction with clips at my next self-touch up. Another popular technique is twisting the processed hair, but not the new growth, and relaxing the hair that way, which I have yet to try, but will.

I am going to refer you to the Self-Relax Support Thread:

http://www.longhaircareforum.com/showthread.php?t=157899

Other techniques to prevent overlapping and more information to help you learn about self-relaxing can be found there.

Thread on various individual methods of the relaxer process:

http://www.longhaircareforum.com/showthread.php?t=132633&highlight=relaxing+sections

Clip method:

http://www.longhaircareforum.com/showthread.php?t=130924&highlight=clips

I personally don't think using this product on your hands while relaxing the hair is a good idea, and I recommend still using gloves, but perhaps someone who's actually done this could be of more help to you...
 
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Regarding the bolded: Relaxers contain extremely invasive chemicals. They can burn the scalp for a reason, and in what... a matter of minutes? A reaction on your hands can be just as instant, rather than gradual. I've never used this product, but I shy away from the concept, just knowing how damaging a relaxer can be on the skin. And if this product is meant for medical professionals, wouldn't that mean the ingredients in it are formulated to ward off things like infections? That takes a strong formula. Who is to say that the ingredients won't react badly to the relaxer itself and still incur damage to your hands, scalp, or hair?

damage.jpg

This is not something I would want to happen to my hands (or my head for that matter!)...


There are alternatives. Some self-relaxers here have mentioned using things like clips to mark the line of demarcation. Others have used products to coat the already processed hair and leaving the new growth untouched, thus creating a clear distinction between the two textures. This is something that I do, and will be doing that in conjunction with clips at my next self-touch up. Another popular technique is twisting the processed hair, but not the new growth, and relaxing the hair that way, which I have yet to try, but will.

I am going to refer you to the Self-Relax Support Thread:

http://www.longhaircareforum.com/showthread.php?t=157899

Other techniques to prevent overlapping and more information to help you learn about self-relaxing can be found there.

Clip method:

http://www.longhaircareforum.com/showthread.php?t=130924&highlight=clips

I personally don't think using this product on your hands while relaxing the hair is a good idea, and I recommend still using gloves, but perhaps someone who's actually done this could be of more help to you...

Wow! Those are some graphic pictures of relaxers gone bad.
OP: I do agree that I would be cautious of the ingredients of the "glove" mixing with the relaxer ingredients. You may end up with some skin irritation if they don't mix well.
 
Wow! Those are some graphic pictures of relaxers gone bad.
OP: I do agree that I would be cautious of the ingredients of the "glove" mixing with the relaxer ingredients. You may end up with some skin irritation if they don't mix well.


You're right, they are graphic. I hope it doesn't scare her out of relaxing completely, since that is an example of an extreme case. I relax myself. :yep: But I am just shuddering at the thought using bare hands/cream protectant on hands to apply a relaxer, and something like those pictures came to mind, except I was envisioning the damage on my hands.. :nono:

With proper preparation and knowledge, relaxers can be a success. :yep: That's obvious, but we have to remember that it's still a high risk process and protection should be a huge priority.
 
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Wow! Those are some graphic pictures of relaxers gone bad.
OP: I do agree that I would be cautious of the ingredients of the "glove" mixing with the relaxer ingredients. You may end up with some skin irritation if they don't mix well.

ITA :yep:.

You don't know how the two products will mesh. The mixture could actually make it worse.
 
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I would definitely use gloves. No way around it.... you could opt for the thinner latex gloves. I picked up some from the dollar tree/walmart/etc.


I wouldn't chance getting relaxer caught and/or left under a fingernail or in a ragged cuticle or in a cut or etc. :nono:
 
I use the gloves that come in a relaxer or color kit and I can feel my NG quite easily. However, I make sure that my NG is not straightened at all before relaxing so I can feel the difference without any difficulty.

As for this product: I am in agreement with the other posters; I don't want to worry about a chemical reaction between the relaxer and the ingredients in this product.
 
I never use gloves during the relaxer process. I've been self relaxing for over 10 years. My hands are fine.
 
Regarding the bolded: Relaxers contain extremely invasive chemicals. They can burn the scalp for a reason, and in what... a matter of minutes? A reaction on your hands can be just as instant, rather than gradual. I've never used this product, but I shy away from the concept, just knowing how damaging a relaxer can be on the skin. And if this product is meant for medical professionals, wouldn't that mean the ingredients in it are formulated to ward off things like infections? That takes a strong formula. Who is to say that the ingredients won't react badly to the relaxer itself and still incur damage to your hands, scalp, or hair?

EDIT: picture removed...


There are alternatives. Some self-relaxers here have mentioned using things like clips to mark the line of demarcation. Others have used products to coat the already processed hair and leaving the new growth untouched, thus creating a clear distinction between the two textures. This is something that I do, and will be doing that in conjunction with clips at my next self-touch up. Another popular technique is twisting the processed hair, but not the new growth, and relaxing the hair that way, which I have yet to try, but will.

I am going to refer you to the Self-Relax Support Thread:

http://www.longhaircareforum.com/showthread.php?t=157899

Other techniques to prevent overlapping and more information to help you learn about self-relaxing can be found there.......


I personally don't think using this product on your hands while relaxing the hair is a good idea, and I recommend still using gloves, but perhaps someone who's actually done this could be of more help to you...


See, and that was just the thing :perplexed …..it’s been a really long time since I self relaxed (I’m talking 10 years) and even then it was always made clear that these chemicals were way to harsh and that not wearing gloves or using a brush would be damaging to skin. But when I started seeing all of these Youtube Tutorials on self relaxing recently where people have been using their hands to apply the relaxers for years yet their hands appeared to be ok, it made me wonder if maybe they’d changed the formulas so that it was still harsh on thin skin (like scalps) but not as harsh as before on hands. This compounded with seeing some stylists using their fingers to smooth relaxers also made me think the same thing – that they were still harsh but not as harsh as they were before and all that was needed was a light barrier instead of rubber gloves. That's what made me wonder if anyone had found a solution in this product.

But I’ll take a look at some more of the self relaxing threads like you said. Overlapping has never been my issue (I just make sure my new growth is puffy and I’m good) but I do have a problem with underprocessing. Luckily I just got my hair relaxed so I have 10 more weeks to figure it out. Thanks for your feedback and the links to the other threads! :yep:
 
OP, maybe Prospurr4 will chime in or you may want to PM her about this because she uses "gloves in a bottle" as part of her texlaxing regimen. And her hair is BE-U-TI-FUL!!! Plus she has been self-relaxing for years.

*I know this because I stalk her fotki, but not as often as I should! :lachen:*

Therefore, I wouldn't say it is totally dangerous or something to be afraid of...?
 
I just wanted to add that I have a close friend who sells those gloves the OP mentioned.

She sells to hospitals and to the military (the professionals who repair military vehicles of all types - planes, automobiles, tanks, humvees, helicopters, etc) and clean up the repair workspace.

I have seen her demo the gloves you speak of. She set her hand on fire and didn't feel the burn or damage her skin. I think the fire burned for one full minute. I have seen her do it in person no less than 10 times, so I know the product, once dry, is an exceptionally good one at keeping harmful things off the skin. She used fire as an excessive example of how well the product coats the skin.

It's really good and can work for hairstylists as well.

But...she never sold to that market because...well...her company markets to healthcare and to the military only to protect them from infectious diseases and caustic/corrosive agents found in repair shops. She also did a demo with hydrochloric acid. Absolutely no damage to skin...and HCL is a lot more caustic and invasive than a relaxer.

Taking into considerations the examples I have seen for myself, I think you would be perfectly safe doing a relaxer with the "glove" you mentioned. Just talk to someone who sells it to be sure of the applications for such a product. I am not saying that every such manufacturer produces the glove the same way, but at least ask the manufacturer or someone who sells it or uses it before you say no to it. I know people here are only trying to help...but there are things that are helpful in life that we possibly have never heard of or considered. Hopefully you are able to find out for yourself. You never know....just like JustKiya came up quite accidentally with the KiyaFizzle (sp?) you may have found a way for many women to not have to worry with physical gloves any longer. Who knows?

(Aside: Not to be funny and definitely not trying to start anything because I'm not going to go back and forth...but it always amazes me when people have strong opinions without evidence...shooting down something that might actually be helpful in various applications...:perplexed)

I am no longer relaxed and it never occurred to me to even think of using the product for myself when I was relaxing. Thanks for bringing it to my remembrance because my mom hates using gloves. They get all tangly while she is working and she can never feel her own NG well and she's been looking for a solution for a while. I'll have her reach out to my friend...

Again, not trying to start anything...but this is, for me, an incredibly random post for me to have real experience with. Crazy. No one even cares that I have seen someone light her hand on fire with a lotion-like glove application. I just had to respond because this will NEVER happen again in life. :lachen: I pray I have not offended anyone because that is never my intention.

cj
 
OP, maybe Prospurr4 will chime in or you may want to PM her about this because she uses "gloves in a bottle" as part of her texlaxing regimen. And her hair is BE-U-TI-FUL!!! Plus she has been self-relaxing for years.

*I know this because I stalk her fotki, but not as often as I should! :lachen:*

Therefore, I wouldn't say it is totally dangerous or something to be afraid of...?


You said it so much better than I did...wish I had seen your post before I posted. I think we may have been writing at the same time...:blush:

cj
 
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Oh yeah....OT, but this product just reminded me of the movie Cloudy With A Chance of Meatballs where the main character created spray on shoes! :lachen: Yeah, I know...random LOL
 
Thanks Shantwhite and Melodies for looking into it...I will consider these 'gloves' because regular gloves are a hassle for me as well...I can *sometimes* feel my NG and it toes get tangly in my hair as well...also, with the relaxer getting on the gloves, my fingers (well, really the material of the gloves) sometimes stick together and it's such a HUGE nuissance to me, especially since I've only done 3 self relaxers in my life and I wanna find a way to do them quickly and efficiently. :)
 
You're very welcome :yep:. I understand everyone is cautious and most fear the unknown, but we're here to help each other. Especially since there is an overwhelming amount of information on these boards and the internet!

P.S. Prospurr4 is veeery nice and I'm sure she'll be glad to help you :grin:
 
Taking into considerations the examples I have seen for myself, I think you would be perfectly safe doing a relaxer with the "glove" you mentioned. Just talk to someone who sells it to be sure of the applications for such a product. I am not saying that every such manufacturer produces the glove the same way, but at least ask the manufacturer or someone who sells it or uses it before you say no to it. I know people here are only trying to help...but there are things that are helpful in life that we possibly have never heard of or considered. Hopefully you are able to find out for yourself. You never know....just like JustKiya came up quite accidentally with the KiyaFizzle (sp?) you may have found a way for many women to not have to worry with physical gloves any longer. Who knows?

(Aside: Not to be funny and definitely not trying to start anything because I'm not going to go back and forth...but it always amazes me when people have strong opinions without evidence...shooting down something that might actually be helpful in various applications...:perplexed)"

I hadn't really thought about it but you're right. I'm sure that there's been a lot of instances in history where people were hesitant about trying something until more and more people stepped up and tried it. There's probably a lot of things we do that are the norm now that people probably thought was a bad idea before. Like say.....the first woman who saw a tampon. She probably said," Oh H#ll no! I'm not using that! That doesn't EVEN look safe!" :nono:

Now we know that even though they carry some risk,tampons are usable. So just like that, I'm thinking that we can't totally rule things out like "Gloves in a Bottle". That's why I had to ask. :yep:

"I am no longer relaxed and it never occurred to me to even think of using the product for myself when I was relaxing. Thanks for bringing it to my remembrance because my mom hates using gloves. They get all tangly while she is working and she can never feel her own NG well and she's been looking for a solution for a while. I'll have her reach out to my friend..."

:grin: No problem.....trust me, as I was typing the question, I was thinking,"This question is random as h#ll! What are the chances that anyone has seen this stuff??" :lachen:

"Again, not trying to start anything...but this is, for me, an incredibly random post for me to have real experience with. Crazy. No one even cares that I have seen someone light her hand on fire with a lotion-like glove application. I just had to respond because this will NEVER happen again in life. :lachen: I pray I have not offended anyone because that is never my intention."

cj

Naaaawww, it's all good :grin: I hope that no one was offended because you were just stating how you feel and what you saw (and did it without insulting anyone) so how can that be wrong? I'm just happy that I got some honest feedback on this because if you think about it, most people haven't seen what you've seen so I guess without seeing it, it would sound really iffy. You also mentioned a valid point that not all ingredients are the same and just because what you saw worked doesn't mean that any bottle I'd find would be the same stuff. All of that is worth thinking about.

But I'll tell you one thing - if it does work (and it sounds like there's a high chance that it does) wouldn't it be great to be finally free of latex gloves? If it doesn't already work then the solution is right around the corner and that is nothing short of amazing! Thanks for checking in!

~Blaize
 
OP, maybe Prospurr4 will chime in or you may want to PM her about this because she uses "gloves in a bottle" as part of her texlaxing regimen. And her hair is BE-U-TI-FUL!!! Plus she has been self-relaxing for years.

*I know this because I stalk her fotki, but not as often as I should! :lachen:*

Therefore, I wouldn't say it is totally dangerous or something to be afraid of...?

WHAT?!?!?! :ohsnap:

Oh I am on my way to stalk her Fotki right now!! :detective:

Thanks!
 
I don't relax my hair and I've never heard of the gloves product so I don't have anything to add on that, but I just want to say that those relaxer gone bad pictues are soooo scary!
 
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See, and that was just the thing :perplexed …..it’s been a really long time since I self relaxed (I’m talking 10 years) and even then it was always made clear that these chemicals were way to harsh and that not wearing gloves or using a brush would be damaging to skin. But when I started seeing all of these Youtube Tutorials on self relaxing recently where people have been using their hands to apply the relaxers for years yet their hands appeared to be ok, it made me wonder if maybe they’d changed the formulas so that it was still harsh on thin skin (like scalps) but not as harsh as before on hands. This compounded with seeing some stylists using their fingers to smooth relaxers also made me think the same thing – that they were still harsh but not as harsh as they were before and all that was needed was a light barrier instead of rubber gloves. That's what made me wonder if anyone had found a solution in this product.

But I’ll take a look at some more of the self relaxing threads like you said. Overlapping has never been my issue (I just make sure my new growth is puffy and I’m good) but I do have a problem with underprocessing. Luckily I just got my hair relaxed so I have 10 more weeks to figure it out. Thanks for your feedback and the links to the other threads! :yep:

I mentioned overlapping because you said that traditional gloves get in the way of you being able to feel your new growth properly, so that can definitely lead to overlapping. It's an issue that should be avoided anyway, especially considering you're jumping back into self relaxing after 10 years of not doing it yourself. I thought perhaps the information here would bring new techniques/tips to your attention. At any rate, I hope whichever options you choose bring you safety and success. :grin:


I just wanted to add that I have a close friend who sells those gloves the OP mentioned.

She sells to hospitals and to the military (the professionals who repair military vehicles of all types - planes, automobiles, tanks, humvees, helicopters, etc) and clean up the repair workspace.

I have seen her demo the gloves you speak of. She set her hand on fire and didn't feel the burn or damage her skin. I think the fire burned for one full minute. I have seen her do it in person no less than 10 times, so I know the product, once dry, is an exceptionally good one at keeping harmful things off the skin. She used fire as an excessive example of how well the product coats the skin.

It's really good and can work for hairstylists as well.

But...she never sold to that market because...well...her company markets to healthcare and to the military only to protect them from infectious diseases and caustic/corrosive agents found in repair shops. She also did a demo with hydrochloric acid. Absolutely no damage to skin...and HCL is a lot more caustic and invasive than a relaxer.

Taking into considerations the examples I have seen for myself, I think you would be perfectly safe doing a relaxer with the "glove" you mentioned. Just talk to someone who sells it to be sure of the applications for such a product. I am not saying that every such manufacturer produces the glove the same way, but at least ask the manufacturer or someone who sells it or uses it before you say no to it. I know people here are only trying to help...but there are things that are helpful in life that we possibly have never heard of or considered. Hopefully you are able to find out for yourself. You never know....just like JustKiya came up quite accidentally with the KiyaFizzle (sp?) you may have found a way for many women to not have to worry with physical gloves any longer. Who knows?

(Aside: Not to be funny and definitely not trying to start anything because I'm not going to go back and forth...but it always amazes me when people have strong opinions without evidence...shooting down something that might actually be helpful in various applications...:perplexed)

I am no longer relaxed and it never occurred to me to even think of using the product for myself when I was relaxing. Thanks for bringing it to my remembrance because my mom hates using gloves. They get all tangly while she is working and she can never feel her own NG well and she's been looking for a solution for a while. I'll have her reach out to my friend...

Again, not trying to start anything...but this is, for me, an incredibly random post for me to have real experience with. Crazy. No one even cares that I have seen someone light her hand on fire with a lotion-like glove application. I just had to respond because this will NEVER happen again in life. :lachen: I pray I have not offended anyone because that is never my intention.

cj

To the bolded and then some: You're completely right. :yep: I've experienced first hand the potency of relaxers via minor scalp burns, nothing ever to get really traumatized about though, and I've heard/read horror stories about the damage relaxers can bring to the scalp (skin). That's why naturally my opinion about this was initially strong. I mean think about it, had you not known that this option was feasible for self-relaxers, wouldn't you be more inclined to wince at the mere suggestion of relaxing without gloves? It just sounds like it could be lead to a disaster on its own, and it's been beaten into my head that relaxers aren't a joke.

I'm glad people are experiencing safety with this stuff. This is actually pretty interesting...I wonder about the ingredients of this product now and how they manage the extraordinary things you speak of. Off to do a search! Thanks.

A little OT... the KF salt/baking soda/vinegar in the conditioner discovery was a really good example. I'm actually going to try that during my next wash. :yep:

OP: Looks like you're good to go! If you try this out, let us know how your relaxer process concludes if you can. :yep:
 
Personally, I do not see the point in wearing gloves to relax. Gloves feel awkward and just get in the way of what I am doing. My hands are just fine, I have been relaxing for many many years. No one I know wears gloves to relax either. The relaxer will not eat through your skin or anything, I dont know where people get that idea. Just wash your hands promptly after applying to your hair, and you should not have any problems.

Years ago, I didn't wear gloves to relax and I never had a problem. The primary reason I wear them now is because I have long nails and I can waste a lot of product (conditioners, moisturizers, relaxers, etc) when it goes under my nails.
 
I just use my hands. The palms and soles on your feet are made of completely different skin make up than your scalp and the rest of your body. The palms and soles are built for destruction. They have their own layer of keratin and get thicker and thicker and tougher. So your hands won't burn if their irritated, they will just get thicker. But, of course, if the gloves in a bottle provides extra protection, definitely use it.
 
I mentioned overlapping because you said that traditional gloves get in the way of you being able to feel your new growth properly, so that can definitely lead to overlapping. It's an issue that should be avoided anyway, especially considering you're jumping back into self relaxing after 10 years of not doing it yourself. I thought perhaps the information here would bring new techniques/tips to your attention. At any rate, I hope whichever options you choose bring you safety and success. :grin:

Oh ok! Now I see why you mentioned overlapping....yeah, what happens is that I can't feel my new growth so I was never really sure if I was smoothing well enough. Especially when I used those gloves that come with the relaxer, you know? They are all slippery and stuff - like I was wearing sandwich bags on my fingers or something!

But you never know, with the lack of control those gloves brought, maybe overlapping added to the problem and I didn't notice it. *shrug*
But luckily I'm reading over the threads that on self relaxing and maybe they will either give me another option or I can combine both methods together! :yep:

OP: Looks like you're good to go! If you try this out, let us know how your relaxer process concludes if you can. :yep:


Ok, if I try it and it works I'll let you know. Of course if I try it and it doesn't work then chances are that I won't be able to freakin' type :lachen:so getting the word out may be a little hard! LOL! Take care! ~ Blaize
 
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Like the OP said, any protection is no protection and this thread was directed to people who currently DO NOT use gloves when relaxing.
 
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