Random Hair Thoughts/Thinking out loud

Nonie said:
@hair4romheaven, getting a microphone afro was proved not to be the determinant of a type. Wavezncurlz, whose hair is 3B/3C showed us her hair in an afro. And I can bet my bottom dollar, your hair can form a microphone afro. It's bigger curls I didn't think could do it, but I've been proven wrong. The images in your siggy to me look like an afro that isn't styled. 4B hair if stretched may flop and not form a good afro, but apply S Curl to it, or some wet product and comb and voila!:afro:
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All this hair talk got me sitting under my steamer with Jasons biotin conditioner mixed with a little trader joes moisture conditioner for slip.
Nonie since I just washed my hair I will try some s-curl I believe I have some under the sink. LOL I also have Taliah Waajid mist bodifiyer I wonder if that will work. If I fail I can just twist it up. In my siggy it is damp & stretched from jumbo twist taken out after wash.
 
Nonie said:
Myjourney2009 all 4B hair people I know. tHENATuRALhAiRpRoJEcT asked people with 4B hair to post pics. That thread has them all. But if you just need names, Mwedzi, Sera, Foxxglove, Nappyrina, Afrokink, me, etc.

Now finding someone with hair that grows out of their head w/o a uniform pattern is what would be unique. I am yet to see that person. It would take some mutating DNA to be sprouting hair that has no defined pattern.

Like I said, show me someone whose hair grows out of their head without a defined pattern and I will show you a unicorn. Just because we manipulate our hair to make it look different doesn't change what it naturally is.
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Nonie I've seen all the peoples hair you've mentioned and in my eyes they dont look like curls, their hair in its natural state (meaning no braids or combed) more closely resembles coils.

I've even seen yours and its doesn't look like curls to me it looks like coils, like very small pen springs.
 
So I got her on a Hair Journey and now she wants ME to do her relaxers....I'm honoured, excited and nervous as all heck:blush:
 
Myjourney2009 said:
@Nonie I've seen all the peoples hair you've mentioned and in my eyes they dont look like curls, their hair in its natural state (meaning no braids or combed) more closely resembles coils.

I've even seen yours and its doesn't look like curls to me it looks like coils, like very small pen springs.
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@Myjourney2009 Ahh!! Semantics! A coil is a curl; a curl is a coil. Only on hair forums is the word "curl" only used to describe BIG coils. Otherwise, something would not be a curl unless it coiled and if it coils, then it's curly.

These are coils:
coilSprings.jpg



These are curls:
pin-curls.jpg


Same shape of a long thing winding in a spiral shape.
curl   [kurl] (definition)

verb (used with object)
1.to form into coils or ringlets, as the hair.
2.to form into a spiral or curved shape; coil.
3.to adorn with, or as with, curls or ringlets.[...]

noun
9. a coil or ringlet of hair.
10.anything of a spiral or curved shape, as a lettuce leaf, wood shaving, etc.
11. a coil.
12. the act of curling or state of being curled.
(Source)
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In fact, it's only on hair forums that you will hear the word "coily". I don't think it exists elsewhere. Hair that forms coils is usually called "curly". If the curls are tiny, and one wants to be explicit, then it's kinky (or nappy) or tightly curled/coiled.
 
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Nonie said:
@Myjourney2009 Ahh!! Semantics! A coil is a curl; a curl is a coil. Only on hair forums is the word "curl" only used to describe BIG coils. Otherwise, something would not be a curl unless it coiled and if it coils, then it's curly.

These are coils:
coilSprings.jpg



These are curls:
pin-curls.jpg


Same shape of a long thing winding in a spiral shape.
curl   [kurl] (definition)

verb (used with object)
1.to form into coils or ringlets, as the hair.
2.to form into a spiral or curved shape; coil.
3.to adorn with, or as with, curls or ringlets.[...]

noun
9. a coil or ringlet of hair.
10.anything of a spiral or curved shape, as a lettuce leaf, wood shaving, etc.
11. a coil.
12. the act of curling or state of being curled.
(Source)
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In fact, it's only on hair forums that you will hear the word "coily". I don't think it exists elsewhere. Hair that forms coils is usually called "curly". If the curls are tiny, and one wants to be explicit, then it's kinky (or nappy) or tightly curled/coiled.[/QUOT

Nonie
I've always considered 4b hair coiled. I formed my own opinion along time ago pre-hair forum. Everyone that has come here doesn't think the same.
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Why when I want to know about something do I have to hear a lecture on how much you love yourself and I should too? :master: So after all of that do you have an answer to my question? No? Next! :kick:
 
Myjourney2009 said:
@Nonie
I've always considered 4b hair coiled. I formed my own opinion along time ago pre-hair forum. Everyone that has come here doesn't think the same.
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And you're right to consider it thus, coz it is coiled or it wouldn't be curled. :lol: Everyone with curly hair has coils. So no one is saying you're wrong. It's all semantics. Po(tah)to, Po(tay)to...same thing. No one said everyone thinks the same. But that doesn't mean we don't sometimes arrive at the same place just by different methods.
 
I don't like the way twist-outs look on me. Wash-n-gos look much better.

I think it's because my hair has low density. :sad:
 
Nonie said:
And you're right to consider it thus, coz it is coiled or it wouldn't be curled. :lol: Everyone with curly hair has coils. So no one is saying you're wrong. It's all semantics. Po(tah)to, Po(tay)to...same thing. No one said everyone thinks the same. But that doesn't mean we don't sometimes arrive at the same place just by different methods.
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Nonie

I know you did not say that everyone thinks the same, its just when I read the line you wrote about hair forum speak I was taking that to mean I only came to my conclusion from being on a forum.

Ahhh, the potahto, potayo comparison, those are similar things to me. They look, feel and taste similar.

Which brings me to curls and coils , they do not look the same or even similar. I would never in a million years consider my hair in its natural state as curly; It is coily.
 
Myjourney2009 said:
@Nonie

I know you did not say that everyone thinks the same, its just when I read the line you wrote about hair forum speak I was taking that to mean I only came to my conclusion from being on a forum.

Ahhh, the potahto, potayo comparison, those are similar things to me. They look, feel and taste similar.

Which brings me to curls and coils , they do not look the same or even similar. I would never in a million years consider my hair in its natural state as curly; It is coily.
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:look: OK.
 
I see an ebay seller who sells JCNS for little over half the price! So excited.

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Shirley Temple curls = coily = no one would say she did not have curly hair.

But hey... I have coils in the back of my head. I love those things. I like my hair the way it is, but I wouldn't complain if I had coils (shirley temple curls) all over my head. That is sooooooooo pretty!
 
I have more dandruff than I used to and I don't know why. I guess I'll have to get some tea tree oil the next time I buy stuff.
 
Feeling the idea of micro flat twists for awhile to help my stretch but MAN the only place in the area that advertises for it costs $275 (Khamit Kinks). Nuh-uh.

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This morning I washed my hair, then plopped it for a while so it'd dry quickly (i was running late to work!!), and i loved how my hair looked, in that semi-dry state. it felt really great, i was so happy with its natural state. so...yah! good hair day!
 
Aireen, I don't use Roux any longer because I feel it worsened my low porosity hair situation. Since my cuticles are already tight, Roux made them even tighter, thereby making it that much harder to get moisture to penetrate in the strands. Why are you unsure about it?
 
Oooooh. Now I understand the point of the mini banana clip/hair clippy things. They have less chance of breaking off your hair. Is that right?

That's the only magic to them. (But that's some good magic!) Right?
 
LadyRaider:) Yes maam I cant say I get any breakage with my banana clip:) luvs them thanks to divachyk

I just got home from the auto mechanic. If they know that the water pump normally needs changing with the timing belt why freakin wait until they have everything apart to tell me so. I think (some) mechanics are such a freakin scam. Backing you into a corner. I was not planning to spend that kind of money. So my bill goes from $400 to $671 in a blink of a dogon eye. I am pretty irritated with them right now. BOOOOO to you Mr. Mechanic
 
@Nonie and @Myjourney2009, type typing is so confusing to me. I swear the more I read, the more confused I become. I'm relaxed so I guess I don't have to concern myself with it much. Why is the topic of hair typing overly important? Does it help with deciding on product, detangling methods, what? I mean, my relaxed hair methods differ from another relaxed head so I just never come to understand why hair typing is so important to some.

SuchaLady said:
That's why I didn't want to ask my question. #Sigh

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@SuchaLady :look: :scratchch: did I miss the question?

@NikkiQ - feel better. The dh and I got sick last week. I went to the dr because I refuse to let it run its course and I end up sicker than when it originally started. The gave me antibiotics and feel much, much better.

hair4romheaven - I'm very sorry to hear that you are going through such a troubling time. Hang in there. I'm sorry to hear of your loss.

@LadyRaider - the magical banana clip keeps tension off of your pony to prevent breakage. @Nix08, I think I read somewhere you mentioned the smaller the clip the better (I think I read that, if not, my bad)? Anyway, I will be getting larger clips because my hair has started to catch in the hinge of the clip. Guess I've outgrown my clips. @winona - glad you're enjoying the clips.
 
@winona - sorry about your car....mechanic costs are no joke and its amazing how they pile on the various things that NEED to be done when most times you only go in for a basic situation. You come out of there with a major car overhaul.
 
I am resisting the urge to leave work and go to the health food store to buy stuff to make a home made conditioner. I really don't have to have any of it right now. I haven't been straight home any day this week. I need to take myself home and sit down somewhere.
 
@divachyk, typing doesn't help ish...except perhaps to give you a clue of styles that your hair might be able to pull off, but then again texture could change that so that coarse hair can do stuff that fine can't and vice versa.

But this discussion wasn't so much about typing but about what one sees when they look at something. Myjourney2009 calls some spirals coils and other curls, I call them all curls and coils interchangeably, only making the distinction that big curls cannot be referred to as kinky. To me coils, curls = same difference in my opinion. To her, they are two different things. I meant to ask the difference but TBH, I'm not sure I care that much to know. It's kinda like the word nappy. Some people with hair like mine will never call it nappy because to them the word means something else; while my hair is nappy and beautifully so (If it didn't have coils aka curls that are tiny, "nappy" would not apply to it; coz that's what nappy means to me: tightly curled/coiled). But no one has to drink the same Koolaid I drink. I can live and let live.
 
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divachyk said:
Aireen, I don't use Roux any longer because I feel it worsened my low porosity hair situation. Since my cuticles are already tight, Roux made them even tighter, thereby making it that much harder to get moisture to penetrate in the strands. Why are you unsure about it?
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Ah I understand, divachyk, that wouldn't be ideal for you. Since I used semi permanent colour, I want my cuticle to lay down. It was my first time using the Moisture Recovery product and my feels soft but had tons of tangles and knots - that could be my fault though. It doesn't provide slip so I think it's best to use it after my hair has been conditioned with another product first. I'll try it one more time by itself to be sure though and detangle my hair properly before washing.
 
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