Random Hair Thoughts/Thinking out loud

Hmmm but it's definitely more than just the sulphates? My current shampoo is a sulphate one and it's not stripping unless I lather multiple times or too frequently. But it by no means is specially moisturizing.

I was wondering if mineral deposits from hard water can play a role in strand roughness. Could that shampoo be chelating? Not that chelating shampoos such as ORS creamy aloe shampoo are moisturizing on my hair...

But I'm loving that idea of moisture from within. I'll try to get my hands on this shampoo somehow.

Anything else amazing from the same line?
I don't think it's chelating. The sulfate isn't even the first ingredient water is so it's very gentle.

I know hard water can dry out your hair alot but I don't have hard water so never experienced the effects of it. From what I've heard it can make the hair rough. The minerals literally just sit on top of the hair preventing moisture from getting in.

I always lather twice and one week early into me using the nexxus shampoo I washed everyday for nearly a wk because I was trying out hairstyles and my hair was super moist even though I was technically putting it through the ringer

The first time I bought the shampoo I got it from ulta but it's way cheaper on amazon. At ulta I paid 13.99 for the small size but on amazon I got a liter for 14.99 so I say try amazon if you don't mind getting it online. If you want it on the ground ulta and I also heard costco sells it.

Their deep conditioner called nexxus humectress is awesome as well. Overall nexxus is a great salon brand. It use to be a big fave on here. They have really high quality stuff.
 
I'm using nexxus therappe shampoo and it does the opposite of stripping to my hair. Since I've been using it my hair gets softer and softer every time I shampoo. Even before my dc my hair feels like butter using this stuff. My sulfate free shampoo was actually more stripping than this sulfate shampoo. I don't know how that is and it still boggles my mind now because the nexxus shampoo doesn't have cones or anything that would falsely make the hair feel soft.

It's an enigma
I use nothing but sulfates and all of my shampoos are more moisturizing than my non sulfate shampoos. They clean the hair and don't leave product on the hair like non sulfates do.
 
I don't think it's chelating. The sulfate isn't even the first ingredient water is so it's very gentle.

I know hard water can dry out your hair alot but I don't have hard water so never experienced the effects of it. From what I've heard it can make the hair rough. The minerals literally just sit on top of the hair preventing moisture from getting in.

I always lather twice and one week early into me using the nexxus shampoo I washed everyday for nearly a wk because I was trying out hairstyles and my hair was super moist even though I was technically putting it through the ringer

The first time I bought the shampoo I got it from ulta but it's way cheaper on amazon. At ulta I paid 13.99 for the small size but on amazon I got a liter for 14.99 so I say try amazon if you don't mind getting it online. If you want it on the ground ulta and I also heard costco sells it.

Their deep conditioner called nexxus humectress is awesome as well. Overall nexxus is a great salon brand. It use to be a big fave on here. They have really high quality stuff.

You are actually right. It's much cheaper on Amazon. Thank you so much for the tip, sis. I'll look into the conditioner as well (is it a co dictioner or a deep conditioner?) I read people here saying that the formula was changed.

What other products do you use on your hair to complement the moisturizing effects of the shampoo?
 
FYI, they're currently having a 40% off flash sale (use code SHOPNOW). Plus, there's free shipping on all orders.
Thank you!!!

ETA I purchased 2 hair masks! I hope I like them, if I do I will have to try out the shampoo and conditioner someday, too. God is good bc I was in Ulta today eyeballing their products but decided to pass to wait for a sale like you said. Glad I did!! Thanks again
 
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You are actually right. It's much cheaper on Amazon. Thank you so much for the tip, sis. I'll look into the conditioner as well (is it a co dictioner or a deep conditioner?) I read people here saying that the formula was changed.

What other products do you use on your hair to complement the moisturizing effects of the shampoo?

The conditioner is a dc and is very moisturizing from what I remember. The formula of the shampoo did change but I have only used the new version not the old. So it's the new one that I love. I haven't used the dc in a long time(I'm talking 9 yrs or more) so I don't know if they reformulated that as well.

I'm big on moisturizing products as a whole and have been using the same dc and leave in for the majority of my journey. I've strayed but always seem to find my way back to Myhoneychild honey hair mask and giovanni direct leave in. The MHC is a thinner consistancy unlike the Nexxus dc which some don't like but it's never done me wrong. There are no hidden proteins and it's all natural. I don't hear many people talk about her dc's so I don't know how popular they are but I love them.

I also always dc with heat for at least 30 min every time I wash(no matter how often I wash) which I think helps impart that nourishment back into my hair. Then I close the cuticles back by rinsing the dc out with cold water (don't know if that helps but I feel like I'm doing something by doing it).

Actually the fact that I didn't change anything else in my reggie but the shampoo is the reason why I know it's the shampoo alone that has made the difference.
 
I use nothing but sulfates and all of my shampoos are more moisturizing than my non sulfate shampoos. They clean the hair and don't leave product on the hair like non sulfates do.

So I guess the whole sulfates are the devil is a myth. It's not the sulfates it's finding the RIGHT sulfate shampoo for your hair needs.

It's the same as the whole naturals don't need protein myth.

I've been on this journey for prob a decade and am still learning new things about my hair everyday.
 
So I guess the whole sulfates are the devil is a myth. It's not the sulfates it's finding the RIGHT sulfate shampoo for your hair needs.

It's the same as the whole naturals don't need protein myth.

I've been on this journey for prob a decade and am still learning new things about my hair everyday.

Nexxus has always been a good brand but the Therappe and Humectress have always been good. My only issue with them is that every 3-4 years, they change the formula of these products. Of course they change both to work together, but they always change.

I used the old formula of both when I was transitioning and it really helped me a lot. Then they changed the formula, so I was fed up and moved on (because it’s change argh) but I always go back to it. I actually like Humectress now more than before. It’s really good. So I know the shampoo is good.

I personally do not care whether a product has sulfates or not. If it works, it works and I heavy seal so I need all product washed off.

I’ve thought this for a while, so I’m just going to say it: I think Therappe and Humectress had a good “relaxed” following because older formulas were well suited for “chemically treated” hair, meanwhile, newer formulas seems to be more simpler and have a balancing effect more suitable for “naturals”.

Or maybe I’m just being my paranoid self :sekret:
 
The conditioner is a dc and is very moisturizing from what I remember. The formula of the shampoo did change but I have only used the new version not the old. So it's the new one that I love. I haven't used the dc in a long time(I'm talking 9 yrs or more) so I don't know if they reformulated that as well.

I'm big on moisturizing products as a whole and have been using the same dc and leave in for the majority of my journey. I've strayed but always seem to find my way back to Myhoneychild honey hair mask and giovanni direct leave in. The MHC is a thinner consistancy unlike the Nexxus dc which some don't like but it's never done me wrong. There are no hidden proteins and it's all natural. I don't hear many people talk about her dc's so I don't know how popular they are but I love them.

I also always dc with heat for at least 30 min every time I wash(no matter how often I wash) which I think helps impart that nourishment back into my hair. Then I close the cuticles back by rinsing the dc out with cold water (don't know if that helps but I feel like I'm doing something by doing it).

Actually the fact that I didn't change anything else in my reggie but the shampoo is the reason why I know it's the shampoo alone that has made the difference.

I do this, not the most pleasant thing ever but I think it does help. My hair certainly is a lot shinier when I remember to cold rinse.

So I guess the whole sulfates are the devil is a myth. It's not the sulfates it's finding the RIGHT sulfate shampoo for your hair needs.

It's the same as the whole naturals don't need protein myth.

I've been on this journey for prob a decade and am still learning new things about my hair everyday.

That's the most interesting thing about it, the constant learning. You can't really stand still...
 
Nexxus has always been a good brand but the Therappe and Humectress have always been good. My only issue with them is that every 3-4 years, they change the formula of these products. Of course they change both to work together, but they always change.

I used the old formula of both when I was transitioning and it really helped me a lot. Then they changed the formula, so I was fed up and moved on (because it’s change argh) but I always go back to it. I actually like Humectress now more than before. It’s really good. So I know the shampoo is good.

I personally do not care whether a product has sulfates or not. If it works, it works and I heavy seal so I need all product washed off.

I’ve thought this for a while, so I’m just going to say it: I think Therappe and Humectress had a good “relaxed” following because older formulas were well suited for “chemically treated” hair, meanwhile, newer formulas seems to be more simpler and have a balancing effect more suitable for “naturals”.

Or maybe I’m just being my paranoid self :sekret:
Hmmm that's interesting. Maybe they realized the "transition" their core audience was making to natural instead of chemically treated and changed their products to follow suit.

It makes me kinda leary though that they are constantly changing their formula. I am a creature of habit and hate when companies are inconsistant because most of the time it's not for the better. Hopefully if they do change the formula in the future it's to make their products better not worse with cheaper filler ingredients like other companies do.
 
I do this, not the most pleasant thing ever but I think it does help. My hair certainly is a lot shinier when I remember to cold rinse.



That's the most interesting thing about it, the constant learning. You can't really stand still...

I can't stand freezing cold water on me so I shampoo apply dc and detangle in the shower and then get out put my hot head on for a half an hr and rinse with cold water out of the shower.

I love that there's always something new to learn. It keeps the journey fresh and exciting. I've been at this for a good 10 yrs (I think) and through all those yrs I still know I'm just tipping the ice berg on what my hair can do.
 
I'm not into trying new brands right now. The current brands I use are constantly coming out with new stuff. I'm loving the hair conditioning cream from Jane Carter. I'm getting the condition and sculpt product today. It is supposed to seal the cuticle prior to using styling creams or mousses!
 
@BronxJazzy and @LushLox, thanks for the perspective of excitement about changes and new discoveries.

I think I have been focused a little too much on the concept of nailing a regimen down, or perhaps I've erroneously defined it as finding THE product combination, schedule, and technique.

I've been so concerned about not being a product or regimen hopper (ya know, like a church hopper :lol:). Recently, though, I did a pretty good job of sticking to the same regimen and products, and while I felt more disciplined, I did not feel like my hair or results were my prize for doing so. In other words, my hair could still stand some improvement, because simply being repetitive/consistent does not earn unimprovable hair or anything. (I'm not knocking consistency, though!)

What has me excited is, like you said, CONTINUING to learn and make improvements.

Even if they turn out to be a fail, I am excited about where the Aveda products and consultation may take my hair and hair care. It's better going with the flow of the journey while listening to my hair versus trying to have and follow "hair journey rules."

Relaxing while exploring patiently is working. A month ago, I would have felt terrible for trialing a new brand. There wasn't freedom to feel excited about the possibilities. Now there's joy, ease, and a "well, let's see what it do" feel to trialing. I just need to improve my ability to remove trialed fails from the house! ;)
 
I was enjoying daily oil rinses and then...

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Hmmm that's interesting. Maybe they realized the "transition" their core audience was making to natural instead of chemically treated and changed their products to follow suit.

It makes me kinda leary though that they are constantly changing their formula. I am a creature of habit and hate when companies are inconsistant because most of the time it's not for the better. Hopefully if they do change the formula in the future it's to make their products better not worse with cheaper filler ingredients like other companies do.

Each formula change results in less ingredients.
 
OMG this is totally weird! Are you sure you didn't get the fake version of the gel?
I got it from Target, so it was fine. I am going to get the small jar of Eco Argan and another copolymer gel to see what happens. The Eco olive was fine, but my hair hates olive oil.
Oh dear I am so sorry to hear that hon. At least you tried it.
Thanks. I had planned to whip it with oil to see if that helped. I don't get this. Oh well...
 
I got it from Target, so it was fine. I am going to get the small jar of Eco Argan and another copolymer gel to see what happens. The Eco olive was fine, but my hair hates olive oil.

Thanks. I had planned to whip it with oil to see if that helped. I don't get this. Oh well...
Oh well!
Have you ever tried KCCC?
 
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