Random Hair Thoughts/Thinking out loud

I watched a bunch of vids demonstrating comb and finger coils. After my ears heal, I will figure out a ratio of gel-to-babassu oil to get a soft hold that will last at least a week or two. Anyone got any ideas?
 
I threw out my curling irons back in 2009. Now I'm thinking about purchasing one and using it after airdrying.

I've been hovering in MBL land for so long so I know I need to tweak my regi. I can't seem to get back into wigs like I used to. Now, I'm thinking of wet bunning. I've seen so many women retain that way over the years.

I think that'll also be simple once I have a newborn to contend with...
 
Sharpened said:
I watched a bunch of vids demonstrating comb and finger coils. After my ears heal, I will figure out a ratio of gel-to-babassu oil to get a soft hold that will last at least a week or two. Anyone got any ideas?
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I just use my regular amount for leave-ins and enough gel to coat the hair completely. Once the caste forms you can always crunch to get a softer hold, but if you want it to last a while I recommend leaving it.
 
I need to focus on being consistent to reach my hair goals by December. I have 2 1/2 months to go. Need to up my water intake, and get back to exercising. I have the ultimate goal of full BSL/grazing MBL on blownout hair by the end of 2017.

If I achieve the above though, I may move that goal post to WL in 2018.
 
KinksAndInk said:
My sister asked me for product recommendations with no coconut oil, no shea or mango butter, no avocado oil, olive oil, castor oil, protein or glycerin...I recommended water and prayer :look: I've got nothing else for you sister.
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Well, the PJ in me saw your post and decided to see if I could find any products that fit your sister’s criterion, and unbelievably I did:

Alikay Naturals Totally Twisted Loc Butter
Almond Oil, Cocoa Seed Butter, Grapeseed Oil, Vitamin E, Apricot Kernel Oil, Wheat Germ Oil, Beeswax, Babassu Oil, Fragrance, Botanical Blend Ingredients

Amazon Rain Sapote Hair Lotion
Deionized Water, Behentrimonium Methosulfate, Cetyl Alcohol, Organic Sapote, Babassu Seed Oil, Cupuacu Butter, Organic Brazil Nut Oil, Phenoxyethanol, Capryl Glycol, Fragrance

APB Peach Babassu Hair Lotion
Aqua, Behentrimonium Methosulfate, Cetearyl Alcohol, Peach Kernel Oil, Babassu Seed Oil, Sunflower Seed Oil, Soybean Oil, Palm Oil, Cetyl Alcohol, Polyquaternium 7, Panthenol, Fragrance, Diazolidinyl Urea, Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate

APB Apricot Hazelnut Daily Moisturizer
Aqua, Behentrimonium Methosulfate, Cetearyl Alcohol, Apricot Kernel Oil, Hazelnut Oil, Soybean Oil, Palm Oil, Cetyl Alcohol, Hydroxypropyltrimonium Honey, Panthenol, Fragrance, Diazolidinyl Urea, Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate

APB Cherry Kukui Daily Moisturizer
Aqua, Behentrimonium Methosulfate, Cetearyl Alcohol, Cherry Kernel Oil, Kukui Nut Oil, Sunflower Seed Oil, Sesame Seed Oil, Palm Oil, Cetyl Alcohol, Polyquaternium 7, Panthenol, Fragrance, Diazolidinyl Urea, Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate

APB Whipped Cupuacu Hair & Body Butta
Cupuacu Butter, Sunflower Seed Oil, Macadamia Nut Oil, Sesame Seed Oil, Rice Bran Oil, Pumpkin Seed Oil, Vitamin E

APB Papaya Pear Daily Moisturizer
Aqua, Behentrimonium Methosulfate (and) Cetearyl Alcohol, Papaya Seed Oil, Sunflower Seed Oil, Meadowfoam Seed Oil, Prickly Pear Seed Oil, Polyquaternium 7, Panthenol, Diazolidinyl Urea, Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate, Fragrance

APB Sweet Pumpkin Spice Leave-in Conditioner
Aqua, Behentrimonium Methosulfate (and) Cetearyl Alcohol, Pumpkin Seed Oil, Cetrimonium Chloride, Di-PPG-2 Myreth-10 Adipate, Sodium Lactate, Hydroxypropyltrimonium Honey, Panthenol, Diazolidinyl Urea, Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate

APB Leave-in Conditioner
Aqua, Behentrimonium Methosulfate (and) Cetearyl Alcohol, Jojoba Seed Oil, Cetrimonium Chloride, Di-PPG-2 Myreth-10 Adipate, Sodium Lactate, Hydroxypropyltrimonium Honey, Panthenol, Diazolidinyl Urea and Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate

APB Organic Hair Tonic
Aqua, Chamomile Flower, Lavender Flower, Marshmallow Root, Peppermint Leaf, Rosemary Leaf, Oatstraw, Burdock Root, Horsetail, Red Rooibos Tea, Hibiscus Flower, Diazolidinyl Urea, Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate, Fragrance

Blue Roze Beauty Manuka Honey Moisturizing Conditioner
Aqua, Apple Hydrosol, Pumpkin Seed Oil, Behentrimonium Methosulfate, Cetyl Alcohol, Butylene Glycol, Orange Butter, Macadamia Oil, Manuka Honey, Honeyquat, Panthenol, Guava Fruit Extract, Preservative

MHC Buttery Soy Hair Crème
Soy Butter, Soya Bean Oil, Raw Honey, Vitamin A, Vitamin E, De-Ionized Water, Optiphen

Natty Naturals Natty Cupuacu & Rhassoul Deep Conditioner
Distilled Water Infused W/Brahmi, Calendula, Hibiscus, Lavender, Neem, Stinging Nettle) Aloe Vera, Panthenol, Cupuacu Butter, Cocoa Butter, Raw Cacao Powder, Irish Moss, Marshmallow Root, Rhassoul Clay, BTMS, Cetearyl Alcohol, Guar Hydroxypropyltrimonium Chloride, Raw Honey, Raw Apple Cider Vinegar, Potassium Sorbate, Sweet Orange Oil, Pumpkin Seed Oil

NG Thick & Rich Conditioning Hair Mask
Water, Aloe Vera, Conditioning Emulsifier, Spinach Oil, Argan Oil, Maltodextrin, Ginger Root, Biotin, Cetrimonium Chloride, Naturesilk, Sodium Lactate, Guar Gum, Preservative, Fragrance

NG Indian Clay Moisturizing Hair Mask
Water, Conditioning Emulsifier, Argan Oil, Sodium Lactate, Marshmallow Root, Slippery Elm Bark, Rose Clay, Beet, Aveeno Oat, Naturesilk, Preservative, Fragrance

NG Peppermint Conditioning Treatment
Water, Conditioning Emulsifier, Cetyl Alcohol, Marshmallow Root, Grapeseed oil, Avocado Oil, Sodium Lactate, Cetrimonium chloride, Panthenol, Rosemary, Peppermint, Preservative, Fragrance

NG Blue Malva Moisture Rich Conditioner
Purified, Conditioning Emulsifier, Karanja Oil, Argan Oil, Almond Oil, Blue Malva, Aveeno Oat, Sugar Beet Root, Cetrimonium Chloride, Naturesilk, Vena Silk, Guar Gum, Panthenol, Fragrance, Preservative

NG Coconut Banana Pre-Poo Treatment
Water, Conditioning Emulsifier, Argan, Emu Oil, Naturesilk, Cetrimonium Chloride, Sodium Lactate, Optiphen, Fragrance

QB Cocoa Tree Detangling Ghee
Distilled Water, Nettle, Barley, Horsetail Extracts, Pure Cocoa Butter, PPG-3 Benzyl Ether Myristate, MSM Sulfur, Cetyl Alcohol, Behentrimonium Methosulfate, Behenamidopropyl Dimethylamine, Butylene Glycol, Preservatives

Sister’s Keeper Brahmi & Rhassoul Conditioning Masque
Distilled Water, Aloe Vera Juice, Natural Emulsifier, Avocado Butter, Rhassoul Clay, Brahmi Powder, Koalin Clay, Sunflower Oil, Stearic Acid, Allantion, Phenoxyethanol, Caprylyl Glycol, Sorbic Acid, Fragrance
 
PJaye said:
Well, the PJ in me saw your post and decided to see if I could find any products that fit your sister’s criterion, and unbelievably I did:

Alikay Naturals Totally Twisted Loc Butter
Almond Oil, Cocoa Seed Butter, Grapeseed Oil, Vitamin E, Apricot Kernel Oil, Wheat Germ Oil, Beeswax, Babassu Oil, Fragrance, Botanical Blend Ingredients

Amazon Rain Sapote Hair Lotion
Deionized Water, Behentrimonium Methosulfate, Cetyl Alcohol, Organic Sapote, Babassu Seed Oil, Cupuacu Butter, Organic Brazil Nut Oil, Phenoxyethanol, Capryl Glycol, Fragrance

APB Peach Babassu Hair Lotion
Aqua, Behentrimonium Methosulfate, Cetearyl Alcohol, Peach Kernel Oil, Babassu Seed Oil, Sunflower Seed Oil, Soybean Oil, Palm Oil, Cetyl Alcohol, Polyquaternium 7, Panthenol, Fragrance, Diazolidinyl Urea, Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate

APB Apricot Hazelnut Daily Moisturizer
Aqua, Behentrimonium Methosulfate, Cetearyl Alcohol, Apricot Kernel Oil, Hazelnut Oil, Soybean Oil, Palm Oil, Cetyl Alcohol, Hydroxypropyltrimonium Honey, Panthenol, Fragrance, Diazolidinyl Urea, Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate

APB Cherry Kukui Daily Moisturizer
Aqua, Behentrimonium Methosulfate, Cetearyl Alcohol, Cherry Kernel Oil, Kukui Nut Oil, Sunflower Seed Oil, Sesame Seed Oil, Palm Oil, Cetyl Alcohol, Polyquaternium 7, Panthenol, Fragrance, Diazolidinyl Urea, Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate

APB Whipped Cupuacu Hair & Body Butta
Cupuacu Butter, Sunflower Seed Oil, Macadamia Nut Oil, Sesame Seed Oil, Rice Bran Oil, Pumpkin Seed Oil, Vitamin E

APB Papaya Pear Daily Moisturizer
Aqua, Behentrimonium Methosulfate (and) Cetearyl Alcohol, Papaya Seed Oil, Sunflower Seed Oil, Meadowfoam Seed Oil, Prickly Pear Seed Oil, Polyquaternium 7, Panthenol, Diazolidinyl Urea, Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate, Fragrance

APB Sweet Pumpkin Spice Leave-in Conditioner
Aqua, Behentrimonium Methosulfate (and) Cetearyl Alcohol, Pumpkin Seed Oil, Cetrimonium Chloride, Di-PPG-2 Myreth-10 Adipate, Sodium Lactate, Hydroxypropyltrimonium Honey, Panthenol, Diazolidinyl Urea, Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate

APB Leave-in Conditioner
Aqua, Behentrimonium Methosulfate (and) Cetearyl Alcohol, Jojoba Seed Oil, Cetrimonium Chloride, Di-PPG-2 Myreth-10 Adipate, Sodium Lactate, Hydroxypropyltrimonium Honey, Panthenol, Diazolidinyl Urea and Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate

APB Organic Hair Tonic
Aqua, Chamomile Flower, Lavender Flower, Marshmallow Root, Peppermint Leaf, Rosemary Leaf, Oatstraw, Burdock Root, Horsetail, Red Rooibos Tea, Hibiscus Flower, Diazolidinyl Urea, Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate, Fragrance

Blue Roze Beauty Manuka Honey Moisturizing Conditioner
Aqua, Apple Hydrosol, Pumpkin Seed Oil, Behentrimonium Methosulfate, Cetyl Alcohol, Butylene Glycol, Orange Butter, Macadamia Oil, Manuka Honey, Honeyquat, Panthenol, Guava Fruit Extract, Preservative

MHC Buttery Soy Hair Crème
Soy Butter, Soya Bean Oil, Raw Honey, Vitamin A, Vitamin E, De-Ionized Water, Optiphen

Natty Naturals Natty Cupuacu & Rhassoul Deep Conditioner
Distilled Water Infused W/Brahmi, Calendula, Hibiscus, Lavender, Neem, Stinging Nettle) Aloe Vera, Panthenol, Cupuacu Butter, Cocoa Butter, Raw Cacao Powder, Irish Moss, Marshmallow Root, Rhassoul Clay, BTMS, Cetearyl Alcohol, Guar Hydroxypropyltrimonium Chloride, Raw Honey, Raw Apple Cider Vinegar, Potassium Sorbate, Sweet Orange Oil, Pumpkin Seed Oil

NG Thick & Rich Conditioning Hair Mask
Water, Aloe Vera, Conditioning Emulsifier, Spinach Oil, Argan Oil, Maltodextrin, Ginger Root, Biotin, Cetrimonium Chloride, Naturesilk, Sodium Lactate, Guar Gum, Preservative, Fragrance

NG Indian Clay Moisturizing Hair Mask
Water, Conditioning Emulsifier, Argan Oil, Sodium Lactate, Marshmallow Root, Slippery Elm Bark, Rose Clay, Beet, Aveeno Oat, Naturesilk, Preservative, Fragrance

NG Peppermint Conditioning Treatment
Water, Conditioning Emulsifier, Cetyl Alcohol, Marshmallow Root, Grapeseed oil, Avocado Oil, Sodium Lactate, Cetrimonium chloride, Panthenol, Rosemary, Peppermint, Preservative, Fragrance

NG Blue Malva Moisture Rich Conditioner
Purified, Conditioning Emulsifier, Karanja Oil, Argan Oil, Almond Oil, Blue Malva, Aveeno Oat, Sugar Beet Root, Cetrimonium Chloride, Naturesilk, Vena Silk, Guar Gum, Panthenol, Fragrance, Preservative

NG Coconut Banana Pre-Poo Treatment
Water, Conditioning Emulsifier, Argan, Emu Oil, Naturesilk, Cetrimonium Chloride, Sodium Lactate, Optiphen, Fragrance

QB Cocoa Tree Detangling Ghee
Distilled Water, Nettle, Barley, Horsetail Extracts, Pure Cocoa Butter, PPG-3 Benzyl Ether Myristate, MSM Sulfur, Cetyl Alcohol, Behentrimonium Methosulfate, Behenamidopropyl Dimethylamine, Butylene Glycol, Preservatives

Sister’s Keeper Brahmi & Rhassoul Conditioning Masque
Distilled Water, Aloe Vera Juice, Natural Emulsifier, Avocado Butter, Rhassoul Clay, Brahmi Powder, Koalin Clay, Sunflower Oil, Stearic Acid, Allantion, Phenoxyethanol, Caprylyl Glycol, Sorbic Acid, Fragrance
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You're the real MVP.
 
PJaye said:
Well, the PJ in me saw your post and decided to see if I could find any products that fit your sister’s criterion, and unbelievably I did:

Alikay Naturals Totally Twisted Loc Butter
Almond Oil, Cocoa Seed Butter, Grapeseed Oil, Vitamin E, Apricot Kernel Oil, Wheat Germ Oil, Beeswax, Babassu Oil, Fragrance, Botanical Blend Ingredients

Amazon Rain Sapote Hair Lotion
Deionized Water, Behentrimonium Methosulfate, Cetyl Alcohol, Organic Sapote, Babassu Seed Oil, Cupuacu Butter, Organic Brazil Nut Oil, Phenoxyethanol, Capryl Glycol, Fragrance

APB Peach Babassu Hair Lotion
Aqua, Behentrimonium Methosulfate, Cetearyl Alcohol, Peach Kernel Oil, Babassu Seed Oil, Sunflower Seed Oil, Soybean Oil, Palm Oil, Cetyl Alcohol, Polyquaternium 7, Panthenol, Fragrance, Diazolidinyl Urea, Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate

APB Apricot Hazelnut Daily Moisturizer
Aqua, Behentrimonium Methosulfate, Cetearyl Alcohol, Apricot Kernel Oil, Hazelnut Oil, Soybean Oil, Palm Oil, Cetyl Alcohol, Hydroxypropyltrimonium Honey, Panthenol, Fragrance, Diazolidinyl Urea, Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate

APB Cherry Kukui Daily Moisturizer
Aqua, Behentrimonium Methosulfate, Cetearyl Alcohol, Cherry Kernel Oil, Kukui Nut Oil, Sunflower Seed Oil, Sesame Seed Oil, Palm Oil, Cetyl Alcohol, Polyquaternium 7, Panthenol, Fragrance, Diazolidinyl Urea, Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate

APB Whipped Cupuacu Hair & Body Butta
Cupuacu Butter, Sunflower Seed Oil, Macadamia Nut Oil, Sesame Seed Oil, Rice Bran Oil, Pumpkin Seed Oil, Vitamin E

APB Papaya Pear Daily Moisturizer
Aqua, Behentrimonium Methosulfate (and) Cetearyl Alcohol, Papaya Seed Oil, Sunflower Seed Oil, Meadowfoam Seed Oil, Prickly Pear Seed Oil, Polyquaternium 7, Panthenol, Diazolidinyl Urea, Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate, Fragrance

APB Sweet Pumpkin Spice Leave-in Conditioner
Aqua, Behentrimonium Methosulfate (and) Cetearyl Alcohol, Pumpkin Seed Oil, Cetrimonium Chloride, Di-PPG-2 Myreth-10 Adipate, Sodium Lactate, Hydroxypropyltrimonium Honey, Panthenol, Diazolidinyl Urea, Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate

APB Leave-in Conditioner
Aqua, Behentrimonium Methosulfate (and) Cetearyl Alcohol, Jojoba Seed Oil, Cetrimonium Chloride, Di-PPG-2 Myreth-10 Adipate, Sodium Lactate, Hydroxypropyltrimonium Honey, Panthenol, Diazolidinyl Urea and Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate

APB Organic Hair Tonic
Aqua, Chamomile Flower, Lavender Flower, Marshmallow Root, Peppermint Leaf, Rosemary Leaf, Oatstraw, Burdock Root, Horsetail, Red Rooibos Tea, Hibiscus Flower, Diazolidinyl Urea, Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate, Fragrance

Blue Roze Beauty Manuka Honey Moisturizing Conditioner
Aqua, Apple Hydrosol, Pumpkin Seed Oil, Behentrimonium Methosulfate, Cetyl Alcohol, Butylene Glycol, Orange Butter, Macadamia Oil, Manuka Honey, Honeyquat, Panthenol, Guava Fruit Extract, Preservative

MHC Buttery Soy Hair Crème
Soy Butter, Soya Bean Oil, Raw Honey, Vitamin A, Vitamin E, De-Ionized Water, Optiphen

Natty Naturals Natty Cupuacu & Rhassoul Deep Conditioner
Distilled Water Infused W/Brahmi, Calendula, Hibiscus, Lavender, Neem, Stinging Nettle) Aloe Vera, Panthenol, Cupuacu Butter, Cocoa Butter, Raw Cacao Powder, Irish Moss, Marshmallow Root, Rhassoul Clay, BTMS, Cetearyl Alcohol, Guar Hydroxypropyltrimonium Chloride, Raw Honey, Raw Apple Cider Vinegar, Potassium Sorbate, Sweet Orange Oil, Pumpkin Seed Oil

NG Thick & Rich Conditioning Hair Mask
Water, Aloe Vera, Conditioning Emulsifier, Spinach Oil, Argan Oil, Maltodextrin, Ginger Root, Biotin, Cetrimonium Chloride, Naturesilk, Sodium Lactate, Guar Gum, Preservative, Fragrance

NG Indian Clay Moisturizing Hair Mask
Water, Conditioning Emulsifier, Argan Oil, Sodium Lactate, Marshmallow Root, Slippery Elm Bark, Rose Clay, Beet, Aveeno Oat, Naturesilk, Preservative, Fragrance

NG Peppermint Conditioning Treatment
Water, Conditioning Emulsifier, Cetyl Alcohol, Marshmallow Root, Grapeseed oil, Avocado Oil, Sodium Lactate, Cetrimonium chloride, Panthenol, Rosemary, Peppermint, Preservative, Fragrance

NG Blue Malva Moisture Rich Conditioner
Purified, Conditioning Emulsifier, Karanja Oil, Argan Oil, Almond Oil, Blue Malva, Aveeno Oat, Sugar Beet Root, Cetrimonium Chloride, Naturesilk, Vena Silk, Guar Gum, Panthenol, Fragrance, Preservative

NG Coconut Banana Pre-Poo Treatment
Water, Conditioning Emulsifier, Argan, Emu Oil, Naturesilk, Cetrimonium Chloride, Sodium Lactate, Optiphen, Fragrance

QB Cocoa Tree Detangling Ghee
Distilled Water, Nettle, Barley, Horsetail Extracts, Pure Cocoa Butter, PPG-3 Benzyl Ether Myristate, MSM Sulfur, Cetyl Alcohol, Behentrimonium Methosulfate, Behenamidopropyl Dimethylamine, Butylene Glycol, Preservatives

Sister’s Keeper Brahmi & Rhassoul Conditioning Masque
Distilled Water, Aloe Vera Juice, Natural Emulsifier, Avocado Butter, Rhassoul Clay, Brahmi Powder, Koalin Clay, Sunflower Oil, Stearic Acid, Allantion, Phenoxyethanol, Caprylyl Glycol, Sorbic Acid, Fragrance
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imaginary said:
I just use my regular amount for leave-ins and enough gel to coat the hair completely. Once the caste forms you can always crunch to get a softer hold, but if you want it to last a while I recommend leaving it.
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Unfortunately, I cannot use conditioner, which is why I considered the gel/babassu oil mix. I found a bunch of videos about turning a gel into a cream using oils and/or butters, but the ratios varied so much. I guess I will start with 75% gel mix and see what happens.
 
So I had a 10am braiding appointment and its now going on 11am and the braider hasnt shown up. I called the braider at 10:12, and she said that another braider was on the way. However still no one has shown up. I'm gonna wait 5more mins and if no one shows up, I'm leaving.

I'm pissed
 
I just unpacked my hair products and realized that I need a lot of stuff. But I also need to use a lot of stuff. I probably won't do any major hauls until next year. I've pulled out a few products to use up before the end of the year.
 
Sharpened said:
Unfortunately, I cannot use conditioner, which is why I considered the gel/babassu oil mix. I found a bunch of videos about turning a gel into a cream using oils and/or butters, but the ratios varied so much. I guess I will start with 75% gel mix and see what happens.
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I get you. I think it might be easier to just apply however much oil your hair usually likes first and then layer the gel on top. At least at first.
 
pelohello said:
So I had a 10am braiding appointment and its now going on 11am and the braider hasnt shown up. I called the braider at 10:12, and she said that another braider was on the way. However still no one has shown up. I'm gonna wait 5more mins and if no one shows up, I'm leaving.

I'm pissed
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Was this at the salon that did your color? Regardless, I'm sorry they wasted your time :nono:
 
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