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Question on corrective relaxers: For the record...
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brickhouse
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Carlie I switched from no-lye to lye with no problems. Are you switching from no-lye to lye?
LoriLOCX
New Member
Okay....
Be careful! Don't do a corrective too soon. If breakage is your concern...MOISTURE...MOISTURE...MOISTURE, and some protein to strengthen. Give your hair time to recover. Flat iron the new growth. You will have more breakage if you do it too soon. It will break directly at the line of demarcation. That's were the new growth meets the already relaxed hair. Overprocessing is what most people do, and then they end up in the salon to fix a mess.
You can rest your hair by wearing protective styles for a few weeks - ponytails, buns, slicked back..etc... condition your hair and prepare it for another try. This will make your hair stronger for a LYE treatment. What relaxer you choose to use depends on your hair type. Going from no-lye to lyeoueans you are increasing the strength of chemical on your hair and if you aren't educated in hair care, you could end up losing what you have. And whatever you do, don't relax the entire hair...just the new growth. If you pull through to the ends...only do that once or twice a year to even out straightness.
Be careful! Don't do a corrective too soon. If breakage is your concern...MOISTURE...MOISTURE...MOISTURE, and some protein to strengthen. Give your hair time to recover. Flat iron the new growth. You will have more breakage if you do it too soon. It will break directly at the line of demarcation. That's were the new growth meets the already relaxed hair. Overprocessing is what most people do, and then they end up in the salon to fix a mess.
You can rest your hair by wearing protective styles for a few weeks - ponytails, buns, slicked back..etc... condition your hair and prepare it for another try. This will make your hair stronger for a LYE treatment. What relaxer you choose to use depends on your hair type. Going from no-lye to lyeoueans you are increasing the strength of chemical on your hair and if you aren't educated in hair care, you could end up losing what you have. And whatever you do, don't relax the entire hair...just the new growth. If you pull through to the ends...only do that once or twice a year to even out straightness.
Carlie
New Member
No, I already switched from no-lye to lye back in April of 2004 w. no probs.brickhouse said:
I was just wondering about applying a lye relaxer to hair that has been previously relaxed (yet underprocessed) w. a no-lye relaxer. The reason I'm asking is because my mother and I switched at the same time. However, her last touch up was done w. a box no-lye relaxer (even though I begged her not to). I would like her to go back to using lye but I'm wondering what should be done w. the hair that's been underprocessed w. lye (looks more texurtized).
LoriLOCX
New Member
Carlie said:Thanks for the input LoriLOCX.
Your welcome Carlie!!! Another thing I would add...that I just picked up in the forums. Protein conditioners/reconstructors are great for making your hair stronger, but they also make the hair hard, so after you do one, follow up with a deep moisturizing conditioner.
vikkisecret
Nubian Girl
I am wondering if I should do one myself ...I think that my hair might be overprocessed from past no-lye box perms put all over my hair..... I want to get my hair professionally done in April with a corrective relaxer . Can anyone give me any advice?
Bumpety Bump for the original questions too...
. Can anyone give me any advice? Bumpety Bump for the original questions too...
CandiceC
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vikkisecret said:I am wondering if I should do one myself ...I think that my hair might be overprocessed from past no-lye box perms put all over my hair..... I want to get my hair professionally done in April with a corrective relaxer
Bumpety Bump for the original questions too...
What are you getting corrected? The length of your hair or just the new growth?
As for Carlie's question- after I had my Phyto disaster (Feb. 9) that left my hair very underprocessed and tangly I used Affirm Lye Regular to correct it (Feb. 26). I have not had any problems whatsoever. It didn't straighten my hair bone straight though. It just relaxed it more. I like how it looks now. I'm not all that skilled at relaxing yet. If you normally can get your hair straight with lye, but tried a no-lye that didn't work for you then go ahead and use the lye yourself. If you aren't skilled at it have a professional correct it for you to ensure that it gets straight (if that's what you want.) Just be sure to do a protein treatment followed by a moisturizing conditioner in between the touch up and the correction. Don't handle it too much and keep you hair well moisturized before and after the correction. Good luck
vikkisecret
Nubian Girl
Thanx for replying candicec. I know that alot of people aren't reallt that knowledgeable about trying to correct a relaxer until they've actually had one. I was thinking myabe I should try the Phyto index 2 but after what you just wrote with the tangles and such...I think I might just slide over the salon to get my hair professionally done.... I am not sure though. I am a self-relaxer and the last time I got my hair done she "trimmed" a good 2 and a half inches off of my hair. Even if my ends looked scraggly...I asked for a trim not a deep cut.
Sorry lol I went off topic , I was venting. I purchased the mizani lye regular relaxer awhile back and haven't used it.I need the other products to go with it if I do relax using that. Man...I feel so lost and hopeless....Can anyone help me??
Carlie
New Member
CandiceC said:As for Carlie's question- after I had my Phyto disaster (Feb. 9) that left my hair very underprocessed and tangly I used Affirm Lye Regular to correct it (Feb. 26). I have not had any problems whatsoever. It didn't straighten my hair bone straight though. It just relaxed it more. I like how it looks now. I'm not all that skilled at relaxing yet. If you normally can get your hair straight with lye, but tried a no-lye that didn't work for you then go ahead and use the lye yourself. If you aren't skilled at it have a professional correct it for you to ensure that it gets straight (if that's what you want.) Just be sure to do a protein treatment followed by a moisturizing conditioner in between the touch up and the correction. Don't handle it too much and keep you hair well moisturized before and after the correction. Good luck
Awesome! Thanks a bunch!!!
Vikki, thanks for bumping!
vikkisecret
Nubian Girl
No problem Carlie 
...I Hope that more ladies give their insight because the question you had was a concern of mine also.
...I Hope that more ladies give their insight because the question you had was a concern of mine also.
LoriLOCX
New Member
When doing a corrective, there are certain factors you need to consider. Is your hair also colored? How badly is it damaged if it is? Is it breaking and shedding? As badly as you may want to just plunge into a corrective, I strongly recommend you give your hair time to recover from what just happened. Everytime you apply the relaxer you're breaking your hair bonds. They become even weaker. This is why protein is so important before and after. Before to prepare the hair....strengthen it so it's more durable during the processing, and afterwards to strengthen what you have just weakened from processing. No-lye relaxers do have a tendency to be drying to the hair, no matter what brand you use. So moisturizing is critical.
I strongly recommend to anyone that asks, to do atleast 2 heavy protein treatments prior to a relaxer. Make sure you follow them up immediately with LOTS and LOTS of deep conditioning. Then after you get it relaxed, atleast 2 more protein treatments followed by deep conditioning. GOOD LUCK!!!
I strongly recommend to anyone that asks, to do atleast 2 heavy protein treatments prior to a relaxer. Make sure you follow them up immediately with LOTS and LOTS of deep conditioning. Then after you get it relaxed, atleast 2 more protein treatments followed by deep conditioning. GOOD LUCK!!!
LoriLOCX
New Member
vikkisecret said:I am wondering if I should do one myself ...I think that my hair might be overprocessed from past no-lye box perms put all over my hair..... I want to get my hair professionally done in April with a corrective relaxer
Bumpety Bump for the original questions too...
Hi vikkisecret
If you think your hair is overprocessed, you may want to treat it for awhile prior to having it relaxed. This will allow your hair time to recover and be stronger when relaxed. You sound like maybe you need some heavy protein and lots of moisturizing. a minimum 2 week intensive treatment of protein and moisturizing would be my suggestion. Then get your hair done by a professional. And don't forget to do the 2 week intensive treatment process again right afterwards.
CandiceC
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Carlie said:Awesome! Thanks a bunch!!!
You're welcome, Carlie. I was nervous about correcting, but I figured I'd take the plunge and do it myself instead of having a stylist do it and deal with the drama that can go along with that.
ETA: I tested a small section of hair in the back a couple of days before to see if it would hold up. You could do a small section first to make sure your hair can handle it.
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vikkisecret
Nubian Girl
Lori,
That is a good suggestion
.....I can tell that my hair is in need of a heavy protein treatment along with other lighter protein treaments on a regular basis. I am trying to hold out until I buy a hooded dryer or heating cap for my treatments (moisturizing or protein) because I get better results for my hair at least when I use heat.
That is a good suggestion
.....I can tell that my hair is in need of a heavy protein treatment along with other lighter protein treaments on a regular basis. I am trying to hold out until I buy a hooded dryer or heating cap for my treatments (moisturizing or protein) because I get better results for my hair at least when I use heat.
BAILEYSCREAM
New Member
Carlie said:Is it okay to have a Lye corrective relaxer done over hair that has been previously relaxed (underprocessed) w. a No-Lye relaxer????
If anyone knows the answer to this question, I'd appreciate all replies.
T I A
Ok, I haven't read all the responses in this thread, but I self process my hair and over the years I have used lye as well as no-lye.
Personally I found that lye is better for my hair. For years I first used the no-lye box kits and my hair strands were forever dry.
Anyway, on to your question, I think it really depends on the condition of your hair. I have done this in the past and the first time my hair came out silky smooth. However, the next time I attempted it, again my hair came out silky smooth. Then a few weeks later my hair started to shed and break very badly.
So, now I stick to lye which seems to be better for my hair.
Another observation of mine is the chances of breakage and shedding are increased if your hair has been coloured (at the point when I experienced major breakage and shedding my hair was permanently coloured and I used to wash & blow dry 2-3 times a week.
In my experience of self processing my hair, mixing the two chemicals, lye and no-lye can sometimes really damage your hair causing thinness and brittle hair. I used to constantly change relaxers until I discovered that it really isn't a good idea to keep swopping from lye to no-lye and vice versa especially if it is applied to your older processed hair ends.
LoriLOCX said:
I strongly agree.
LoriLOCX
New Member
vikkisecret said:Lori,
That is a good suggestion
You're welcome!!!!
Just remember....protein strengths the hair, so we need it to get the hair as strong as possible. Sometimes correctives require 6 week intensive protein treatments....for hair that's in severely bad shape.
If your hair is breaking very badly, take 1/2 cup mayonaise, 1 egg, and 1 Tablespoon of oil olive. Mix well, apply after shampooing your hair. Put on a plastic cap, put a hot damp towel over that, and leave on for minimum 1 hour. I guarantee you will see a big improvement in this ONE treatment!!
shunemite
New Member
It's fine, absolutely. I did it once with Mizani lye over Affirm no-lye. Just remember to pick up where you left off as far as time (if it was only 10 minutes the previous relaxer you only need 5 minutes in the corrective, not 15). Your hair will shed more after the corrective, so like the above posters said, DC a lot. Try not to do extra fun stuff like color and high heat on the already stressed double processed hair.
