partying and clubbing

[locabouthair]

is partying a sin? i think i heard it might be because of the dancing. i dont usually party much but i did this weekend and i have to admit i had fun. i was feeling sad before and going out did help to cheer me up. does the Bible speak about partying?

 

[Nubianrose]

girl!!! I'm not exactly sure...however I know that they did "party" in the Bible. I feel u on having fun this weekend, because I sure did. About the dancing...as long as its not too overly sexual I don't think its that bad. And with drinking- don't get drunk, because that is a sin, but I don't think a drink here and there is bad- other thoughts?

 

[BLESSED1]

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[cocoberry10]

I used to get really confused about this too. I always liked going out (not everynight, but on occasion). I didn't drink, or do anything crazy, like leave with a strange man and do crazy things. However, when I got to college my freshman year, one of the girls I met said you can't be a Christian and go to the club. She also said women are not called to preach/Pastor churches (which I don't agree with), but that they can be ministers.

This is where I am on that now. I believe that Jesus could go anywhere, and remain Jesus. I believe that if Jesus were walking the Earth right now, he could walk into a club in NYC, Miami, DC, or LA, and communicate with the people without sinning. I even believe He could walk into a gay bar, communicate with the people, and not sin. The reason I believe this is because I know that Jesus loves people, just not always all of our ways.

There are people who never set foot in a club, never dance, and never party, but they sin against God everyday. They lust after people, they are drunkards, they hate their brothers, they are selfish, they watch porn (think Kirk Franklin). Therefore, I do on occasion go to clubs with people. Not often, but I feel strong enough in my walk with Christ that I can socialize in secular settings, without "losing" my Christianity. People respect me when I don't choose to drink (on occasion, I do drink, but not everytime I go out). People respect the fact that I don't do drugs, never have, and never will, and people respect the fact that I'm not going to be dancing all over the floor. Some of my friends do this, but they respect the fact that I don't; and I respect the fact that they do participate in this.

I think it's important as a Christian to understand that you can show people Jesus' love in any setting.

Sorry post was so long!

 

[BlkHoneyLuv2U]

Ask yourself this question, if Jesus came back at midnight on a Friday or Saturday night or any night the clubs are open, would you want Him to find you in da club shaking ya booty?

 

[Dare~to~Dream]

Ask yourself this question, if Jesus came back at midnight on a Friday or Saturday night or any night the clubs are open, would you want Him to find you in da club shaking ya booty?

Good point...

 

[fivefoursweetie]

they watch porn (think Kirk Franklin).

Didn't get this part, I'm a little slow...can someone please fill me in?
Thanks

 

[Blossssom]

Ask yourself this question, if Jesus came back at midnight on a Friday or Saturday night or any night the clubs are open, would you want Him to find you in da club shaking ya booty?

HELLO! THREAD CLOSED!

Yea, imagine Jesus in a club... um hummm... :scratchch

 

[Blossssom]

Didn't get this part, I'm a little slow...can someone please fill me in?
Thanks

Kirk Franklin? In a PORNO? Yikes! Haha!

 

[firecracker]

Ask yourself this question, if Jesus came back at midnight on a Friday or Saturday night or any night the clubs are open, would you want Him to find you in da club shaking ya booty?

Is the club the optional word? Because he could have found me up in church this Sunday shakin my bootae, clapping my hands and sangin loud wit the awesome Mens choir. Chile when I mean I partied up in da church! Almost had a out of body experience.

 

[redeemed516]

Me personally...i Don't go to clubs...I don't think there is anything wrong with celebration. ....
My personal view is that when I clubbed I danced long and hard...so now I dance twice as long and twice as hard for my God.

 

[good2uuuu]

Didn't get this part, I'm a little slow...can someone please fill me in?
Thanks

Kirk Franklin use to have an addiction to porn, which he is very open about. He is open about his stuggles(which we all have, even Christians) and his deliverance. Too bad some people(not speaking of anyone here), want to twist the story, take bits and pieces, and run with it like it's a juicy piece of gossip.

 

[good2uuuu]

Regarding the subject at hand, although it may sound cliche, 'whatwould Jesus do?' Also, how would you feel if Jesus walked ito the room and looked at you in person while you are in the middle of getting your party on?

 

[fivefoursweetie]

Kirk Franklin use to have an addiction to porn, which he is very open about. He is open about his stuggles(which we all have, even Christians) and his deliverance. Too bad some people(not speaking of anyone here), want to twist the story, take bits and pieces, and run with it like it's a juicy piece of gossip.

Oh, thanks for the explaination...didn't know that.
It's funny cause each of us have our thing that may not be pleasing to God in other's eyes, yet we as humans sometimes pick and choose what is worse over another.
Regarding partying and clubbing...a lot of great points were mentioned. I personally believe that there is no set answer, but that it is an individual thing. If you feel some sort of conviction about it, then maybe you shouldn't do it. I personally have gotten to the point where if I have to question something, then 9 times out of 10 I conclude that I shouldn't do it, because if it is questionable to me, it may be questionable in God's eyes. I personally choose not to go to clubs because I have no desire (thank God he took that away from me). I have learned in MY walk that clubbing ends up leading me away from my intimate relationship with God, and once I realized that, I asked God to take the desire away and he did. I know that certain things are downfalls for me, and I try my best to refrain from dibbling and dabbling in that. For instance...for me, sex is my weakness. But, thank God I have been abstinant for 6 months. In those 6 months, I have focused on strengthening my relationship with God, and eventually I will be worthy of the King God has for me. I pray that when I am blessed with that King that I not engage in activities that can lead to pre-marital sex. Please pray with me y'all.
Sorry went off a little. I feel like I'm in a testimony service

 

[luvalva30]

It's the sinful environment that's wrong. Why would Christians upholding a standard want to be involved with people drinking, smoking, cussing and grinding up on each other. It's too many people straddling the fence these days, that's the problem. If you want to be in the club, be in the club, but don't be in church knocking people down shouting, speaking in tongues like you're so holy. I don't know how anyone can go to a club and not feel guilty about it. God wants us to uphold a standard. He deserves more than that. Let's be real ladies. The church now wants to do everything the world does. That's why people ain't interested in going to church anymore because they can shake their tail right alongside yours and while you're in church on Sunday they're sleeping in.

 

[BlkHoneyLuv2U]

It's the sinful environment that's wrong. Why would Christians upholding a standard want to be involved with people drinking, smoking, cussing and grinding up on each other. It's too many people straddling the fence these days, that's the problem. If you want to be in the club, be in the club, but don't be in church knocking people down shouting, speaking in tongues like you're so holy. I don't know how anyone can go to a club and not feel guilty about it. God wants us to uphold a standard. He deserves more than that. Let's be real ladies. The church now wants to do everything the world does. That's why people ain't interested in going to church anymore because they can shake their tail right alongside yours and while you're in church on Sunday they're sleeping in.

Now let the church say AMEN!! Very well said.

 

[firecracker]

If you want to be in the club, be in the club, but don't be in church knocking people down shouting, speaking in tongues like you're so holy.

That's why people ain't interested in going to church anymore because they can shake their tail right alongside yours and while you're in church on Sunday they're sleeping in.

Don't be too upset with the heathens.

 

[locabouthair]

someone said that the enviroment was wrong. which i can agree with. i just felt that if i danced by myself, didn't drink and didn't go often it would be ok. since someone mentioned dancing i was wondering where do you cut the line? i would like to learn how to dance better. i would like to do learn salsa or merengue. that wouldn't be considered a bad or sinful right? i always got the idea from other christians that dancing was wrong and one time i heard the girl in mary mary say that dancing wasn't a sin. so i confused.

 

[Isis]

Dancing is art, it's creative self-expression and not wrong at all. It's the environment that Luvalva30 mentioned that is the problem which includes negative associations. There are places in most cities other than clubs where one can just dance, including Christian establishments. I personally avoid all clubs and bars.

 

[firecracker]

Dancing is art, it's creative self-expression and not wrong at all. It's the environment that Luvalva30 mentioned that is the problem which includes negative associations. There are places in most cities other than clubs where one can just dance, including Christian establishments. I personally avoid all clubs and bars.

I believe the above is true. I still miss happy hour though I find in my daily walk that association with my "Always A Party Funloving Type Cousins(who are my rock and heart) can hinder my growth and cause a possible backsliding effect. If your conflicted about your actions that maybe a signal its not healthy or good for your spiritual walk.

 

[Supergirl]

It's the sinful environment that's wrong. Why would Christians upholding a standard want to be involved with people drinking, smoking, cussing and grinding up on each other. It's too many people straddling the fence these days, that's the problem. If you want to be in the club, be in the club, but don't be in church knocking people down shouting, speaking in tongues like you're so holy. I don't know how anyone can go to a club and not feel guilty about it. God wants us to uphold a standard. He deserves more than that. Let's be real ladies. The church now wants to do everything the world does. That's why people ain't interested in going to church anymore because they can shake their tail right alongside yours and while you're in church on Sunday they're sleeping in.

Hmmmm... I couldn't find the words, but you did excellent with this post.

Going to clubs is not overtly sinful in and of itself, but you must ask yourself some questions like:

1) What business does a Christian have in a club or similiar environment?
2) What does this do for your witness? Would you be comfortable with someone who you've been trying to win over to Jesus knowing that you went clubbing last night?
3) If you were in Heaven and God was showing you a video of your life, would you be proud of the part with you in a club AFTER you were saved?

Now, I know we've all done things we're not proud of/sinned/come short of the glory... so let's not repeat that. This thread is about clubs...

 

[firecracker]

Hmmmm... I couldn't find the words, but you did excellent with this post.

Going to clubs is not overly sinful in and of itself, but you must ask yourself some questions like:

1) What business does a Christian have in a club or similiar environment?
2) What does this do for your witness? Would you be comfortable with someone who you've been trying to win over to Jesus knowing that you went clubbing last night?
3) If you were in Heaven and God was showing you a video of your life, would you be proud of the part with you in a club AFTER you were saved?

Now, I know we've all done things we're not proud of/sinned/come short of the glory... so let's not repeat that. This thread is about clubs...

Great post! Can you elaborate on the bolded part above please?

 

[firecracker]

I do believe we all sin and those sinners should be allowed in the church too. The church is here to save souls and change lives. I do agree that some churches are trying to do too much the world is doing. Seeking to please man instead of God and attempting to bend the rules. I still don't think it right for someone to tell another how to worship or be offended by an action that has no direct affect on them. Judgin folk I say! I sure did used to be all up in da club. Take dat Take dat

 

[BLESSED1]

I do believe we all sin and those sinners should be allowed in the church too. The church is here to save souls and change lives. I do agree that some churches are trying to do too much the world is doing. Seeking to please man instead of God and attempting to bend the rules. I still don't think it right for someone to tell another how to worship or be offended by an action that has no direct affect on them. Judgin folk I say! I sure did used to be all up in da club. Take dat Take dat

 

[MeccaMedinah]

Regarding the subject at hand, although it may sound cliche, 'what would Jesus do?'

It may sound cliche, but it is true. I've been asking myself that about a lot of things lately. I don't want to be a fence straddler.

 

[Millahdoowop]

For those who believe that dancing is a sin, how do you feel about praise dancers? I saw this one dance group at a Juneteenth celebration (don't remember the name of the church) and they did a hip hop dance to a gospel song (don't remember the name of it either) but they were off the hook. There was nothing sexual, raunchy or bad about it. It was clean dancing... so as I asked before how do you feel about that? Is that another way for the church trying to please man and not God? I see it as keeping the youth involved with their church whether it is gospel choir, praise dancing, or doing a play.

 

[mahogany]

For those who believe that dancing is a sin, how do you feel about praise dancers? I saw this one dance group at a Juneteenth celebration (don't remember the name of the church) and they did a hip hop dance to a gospel song (don't remember the name of it either) but they were off the hook. There was nothing sexual, raunchy or bad about it. It was clean dancing... so as I asked before how do you feel about that? Is that another way for the church trying to please man and not God? I see it as keeping the youth involved with their church whether it is gospel choir, praise dancing, or doing a play.

As long as they are glorifying GOD and not themselves then there is nothing wrong with it. At my church we really don't emphasize choirs or dancing because sometimes it takes away from the message. For instance, how many times do you hear people claim to go to a church because the Choir is good, that should not be the only reason you go to a church.

 

[Millahdoowop]

As long as they are glorifying GOD and not themselves then there is nothing wrong with it. At my church we really don't emphasize choirs or dancing because sometimes it takes away from the message. For instance, how many times do you hear people claim to go to a church because the Choir is good, that should not be the only reason you go to a church.

Oooh good point. I see what you are saying, and you are right I have heard people say that before, and that's not good at all. They are not ashamed to say that they go only because of that either. smh

 

[Supergirl]

Great post! Can you elaborate on the bolded part above please?

Well, I included that because on threads like this someone will inevitably post something like "Well, we're all sinners. No particular sin is worse than another You can't judge me because I go to clubs..."

 

[firecracker]

Well, I included that because on threads like this someone will inevitably post something like "Well, we're all sinners. No particular sin is worse than another You can't judge me because I go to clubs..."

Thanks. You didn't want it to turn in a comparison of sins. I gotcha. The angry at the heathens on Sunday morning post was funny but scary.erplexed