Name that texture! PIC HEAVY!
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LaFemmeNaturelle
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With the new pics you posted, I see more 4b now so I change my answer to 4a/b
Nonie
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I agree with LaFemmeNaturelle, the new photos do show more 4B...but you do have 4A too, so I still say 4A/B.
This photo for example
is like a close-up of this photo of my hair (no product):
And the front part of the new puff photos like this one:
...remind me of the front part my puffs although my hair was dry not wet when mine were created.
I think wet 4A hair would have very defined waves in the front. Yours seem to be more visible in the back than in the front. I think the best way to know for sure is too look at all threads Thehairlab (that's the same chick with the weird mixed letters name BTW
) and find the home you fit in best.
This photo for example
is like a close-up of this photo of my hair (no product):
And the front part of the new puff photos like this one:
...remind me of the front part my puffs although my hair was dry not wet when mine were created.
I think wet 4A hair would have very defined waves in the front. Yours seem to be more visible in the back than in the front. I think the best way to know for sure is too look at all threads Thehairlab (that's the same chick with the weird mixed letters name BTW
) and find the home you fit in best.
HeavenlySkies
Active Member
Man I was looking at those threads and the parts of my head that look like the people in the 3c mix threads yall saying I have no 3c lol I also read before that 4b won't lie flat but I posted a picture of it doing that. I guess I'm confused as to which parts of my hair is 4b and which isn't. The back does s curls on it's own, some parts are pencil sized spirals, some parts are just straightish with a slight wave to them, and others are just there. I'm about to do my hair now so I'll take pictures.
itsjusthair88
Chronically at BSL -_-
I'm sorry...but hair typing is the devil. And you have pretty hair and I still don't understand what all these 4's and 3's and A's and B's mean...lol.
EllePixie
New Member
I don't want to be rude, but you've posted MANY pictures of your hair, and everyone has complimented you and said it's pretty. Why do you feel you need to take more pictures? 4b hair will lie flat. What's wrong with having some 4b hair? I read all the responses and almost everyone said 4a/4b. What are you looking for?
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HeavenlySkies
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You and me both lol
I don't want to be rude, but you've posted MANY pictures of your hair, and everyone has complimented you and said it's pretty. Why do you feel you need to take more pictures? 4b hair will lie flat. What's wrong with having some 4b hair? I read all the responses and almost everyone said 4a/4b. What are you looking for?
I always take MAD pictures. Just confused as to what I've read about different hair characteristics and what is being said. I don't care about having 4b I just need to know which part is which because the part that I think is 4b I keep in twists or try to do twist styles directed at that part. Maybe I'm more confused than I thought. What hair does "S" curls? 4b is said to have no definition but Nonie has the tight spirals that are clearly there which adds to the confusion. Again I have no problem with 4b hair I don't even know what part is 4b that is why I said I would take more pictures so it can be clearly pointed out. Thanks.
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EllePixie
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To be honest, that's the entire problem with hair typing. There have been different descriptions and interpretations all over the web, and it's just all muddled and doesn't make any sense. For instance, you said that you read that 4b has no pattern, but I have read, that it in fact does have a wave/curl pattern, but it's harder to see from afar because there isn't as much clumping - ie, cloud hair, like Nonie showed (ps lovely hair Nonie). In a similar sense, I have also read that 3c hair is silky, and that most certainly isn't always true. However you styled your hair in your pics, it looks great, so just keep doing that. Just MHO. Also, if I tried to break down my hair type by sections of my hair, I would go CRAZY, so I personally wouldn't even try!!!
HeavenlySkies
Active Member
Trust me I'd be more than happy to know that I'm only dealing with two textures just the way the crap be acting in diff parts is what makes it hard.
LaFemmeNaturelle
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Just wondering....are you trying to change your reggie, styles, and products? If so, why? Or are you just trying to figure it out so you can post it the appropriate threads? If the latter, I think you should go ahead and post in the 4a/4b threads. Nonie has picked out great pics and compared them to hers to show you why we chose the answers we did. The hair typing system goes by the size of curls so yes 4bs have coils and not zigzags and you can see them especially when wet and close up. You have a combo of both 4a and 4b which is why some of your coils are more defined than others. Diff types can have s curls. 3s can have them and 4s can have them. But because your hair is a blend of both curl patterns, it is hard for anyone to pinpoint all of your 4a strands and all of your 4b strands but you can easily tell that there is indeed a mixture....am I making sense? And yes people with 4b can lay their hair down as you can see from Nonie's pictures. Some people just have more difficulty than others depending on the thickness of their strands and the density of their hair.
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HeavenlySkies
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I am trying to actually have a reggie so far I decided to stick with cowashing and gelling after to prevent it from tangling. The top of my head stays short so and I don't know why so I'm trying to do something about that. I pretty much am just trying to keep it as soft and tangle free as possible so far using kcc and kt have taken care of that but if it's no point in me trying to "define" certain parts then I'll know not to waste time with certain products.
mix with mostly 4A
Nonie
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OP, why not find out from just using the product? You don't need someone to tell you what you hair can or can't do. You just apply the product and where definition can happen it will happen; where it can't, it won't.
You said you wanted to know which part is 4a and which part 4b. I told you what I think, or is it that you want a second opinion? The sections I pointed out that behave as 4b are all 4b. The back is 4a.
The definition that 4b has no pattern I thought was debunked a long time ago? If you don't believe me, look at all the threads on the forum showing 4b hair and you will see everyone has coils.
OP, knowing your type doesn't really tell you much about how your hair will behave. Fine hair, silky hair, coarse hair, dull hair all respond differently to products. Also people could have hair that looks the same in every way and not like the same products. Your best bet is trial and error. Otherwise, it doesn't matter how many pics you post, I don't think the consensus on your type will change. Majority say 4a/b, so chances are that's what it is. I assure you we didn't have a secret meeting to mislead you.
You said you wanted to know which part is 4a and which part 4b. I told you what I think, or is it that you want a second opinion? The sections I pointed out that behave as 4b are all 4b. The back is 4a.
The definition that 4b has no pattern I thought was debunked a long time ago? If you don't believe me, look at all the threads on the forum showing 4b hair and you will see everyone has coils.
OP, knowing your type doesn't really tell you much about how your hair will behave. Fine hair, silky hair, coarse hair, dull hair all respond differently to products. Also people could have hair that looks the same in every way and not like the same products. Your best bet is trial and error. Otherwise, it doesn't matter how many pics you post, I don't think the consensus on your type will change. Majority say 4a/b, so chances are that's what it is. I assure you we didn't have a secret meeting to mislead you.
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Keen
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I disagree with you which is why I like to see pictures before determining which members have similar hair types as I am.
IMO, you can't possibly put OP and this person (got the picture from a google search) on the same category. The category we're using goes from 1 to 4. This person right here is what I call 4b/c.
MilkChocolateOne
Well-Known Member
I disagree with you which is why I like to see pictures before determining which members have similar hair types as I am.
IMO, you can't possibly put OP and this person (got the picture from a google search) on the same category. The category we're using goes from 1 to 4. This person right here is what I call 4b/c.
Not all type 4s have hair the looks like the lady pictured above. There are type 4s that have a visible coil pattern. Have you seen Poohbear's fotki? Moustacy's hair is very similar to Poohbear's and she has type 4a hair.
Amoreofcurls
New Member
The OP, and the chick in the picture(whose hair loosk styled) obviously doesnt have the same texture of hair....I disagree with you which is why I like to see pictures before determining which members have similar hair types as I am.
IMO, you can't possibly put OP and this person (got the picture from a google search) on the same category. The category we're using goes from 1 to 4. This person right here is what I call 4b/c.
I think you have texture and curl type confused....
Hair texture, strand size, and the amount hair on ones head will vary among EVERYONE's head regardless of curl size....I believe it has been established that the Andre walker system is flawed because it doesnt state that...and curl size really doesnt apply much its hair characteristics...
The OP appears to have finer strands, and a smoother texture...You an have two different heads of hair with the SAME EXACT curl size , but if their strands size, amount of hair on head, or texture is different they, may appear and behave TOTALLY different from eachother...Thats why you have some 4a who hair grow out and some whose hair grow down....some 4a's have more shine that others etc....
Since we are refering to CURL SIZE (the diameter of the curl or amount of bend in the wave) I think you should know that 4a hair AND 3c hair can wave, kink, or coil, but the sizes will be different, a 3c wave will appear looser than 4a wave...
HeavenlySkies
Active Member
I disagree with you which is why I like to see pictures before determining which members have similar hair types as I am.
IMO, you can't possibly put OP and this person (got the picture from a google search) on the same category. The category we're using goes from 1 to 4. This person right here is what I call 4b/c.
THANK YOU! This was the image in my mind when I thought 4b and I would be thinking err my hair doesn't look like that. But reading this below
Explains everything! Thanks to the both of you.
tHENATuRALhAiRpRoJEcT
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I think wet 4A hair would have very defined waves in the front. Yours seem to be more visible in the back than in the front. I think the best way to know for sure is too look at all threads [B]Thehairlab (that's the same chick with the weird mixed letters name BTW) and find the home you fit in [/B]best.[/QUOTE] @Nonie .....WEIrD???? YESSSSSSssss!!!! .... but you assumed i am of the female GENDER form eH???
hmmmmmm.... tranny on DeCk!
I think wet 4A hair would have very defined waves in the front. Yours seem to be more visible in the back than in the front. I think the best way to know for sure is too look at all threads [B]Thehairlab (that's the same chick with the weird mixed letters name BTW
) and find the home you fit in [/B]best.[/QUOTE] @Nonie .....WEIrD???? YESSSSSSssss!!!! .... but you assumed i am of the female GENDER form eH???hmmmmmm.... tranny on DeCk!
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blackbarbietea
New Member
Your hair is so beautiful!
Neith
New Member
I disagree with you which is why I like to see pictures before determining which members have similar hair types as I am.
IMO, you can't possibly put OP and this person (got the picture from a google search) on the same category. The category we're using goes from 1 to 4. This person right here is what I call 4b/c.
Wow. That's not the only way type 4 hair can look. Believe it or not, those are small coils and so are mine (and moustacy's). We all have a different texture and hair density, but similar curl size. Also, the hair can look different depending on how you style it.
Take my pictures for instance, in this threa you can see my hair in a twistout (avvie), I posted a pic of my wet hair, and in my siggy combed out dry (all curl definition gone)
I wish I had the thickness though of the model thoough
Have a look in these threads:
http://www.longhaircareforum.com/forum6/thread476340.html
http://www.longhaircareforum.com/forum6/thread476422.html
http://www.longhaircareforum.com/forum6/thread476344.html
If you care to learn that type 4 hair has a lot of variation. While that pic you posted is beautiful, that is not the only representation of type 4 hair.
brownbean96
New Member
I say 4a with some 4b. But like Nonie said, knowing that will have little effect on how products work on your hair. I've used products that some naturas with a similar texture as mine love and it does nothing for my hair. You find what works for your hair by trial and error. I believe you've been given your general range between 3c -4b but hair typing is not an exact science. And furthermore the typing will not tell you how YOUR hair will or will not behave. You have to figure that out on your own- which from your posts sound like you have.
BostonMaria
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4a/4b
Your hair is beautiful!
Your hair is beautiful!
Keen
Well-Known Member
Wow. That's not the only way type 4 hair can look. Believe it or not, those are small coils and so are mine (and moustacy's). We all have a different texture and hair density, but similar curl size. Also, the hair can look different depending on how you style it.
Take my pictures for instance, in this threa you can see my hair in a twistout (avvie), I posted a pic of my wet hair, and in my siggy combed out dry (all curl definition gone)
I wish I had the thickness though of the model thoough
Have a look in these threads:
http://www.longhaircareforum.com/forum6/thread476340.html
http://www.longhaircareforum.com/forum6/thread476422.html
http://www.longhaircareforum.com/forum6/thread476344.html
If you care to learn that type 4 hair has a lot of variation. While that pic you posted is beautiful, that is not the only representation of type 4 hair.
I think that's the issue here. I don't think type 4 hair (or 1, 2 and 3) has as many variations as listed here. I think there's a range and that's it.
That thickness can be a beast to deal with. But once you learn how to deal with it, you can rock some nice styles.
Neith
New Member
To the bolded I dunno what to say. Agree to disagree I guess.
I feel that it's obvious that billions of people aren't going to have cookie cutter hair. Not like theres "one type" of 4a hair and that's it.
All hair textures have tons of variety, but I type by looking at curl diameter (or degree of wave if you're talking about types 1 and 2). There are many variables besides degree of curl like strand diameter, strand shape (cross section) and hair density that make up people's unique hair texture.
Just like most of us are black, but don't come in one or two shades of brown...
That's just how I feel about the subject.
I love thick hair
Hopefully as my hair grows it'll thicken up some. My main goal is to get to a blunt SL. I'm like 2 or 3 inches away from that.
Nonie
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I think wet 4A hair would have very defined waves in the front. Yours seem to be more visible in the back than in the front. I think the best way to know for sure is too look at all threads [B]Thehairlab (that's the same chick with the weird mixed letters name BTW ) and find the home you fit in [/B]best.[/QUOTE] @Nonie .....WEIrD???? YESSSSSSssss!!!! .... but you assumed i am of the female GENDER form eH???
hmmmmmm.... tranny on DeCk![/QUOTE]
tHeHaIRLaB LOL! You had me fooled, tranny! I mean, the least you could do is look a bit like Andre J so it's a bit obvious. I love me some him...and think he's a true diva (divo?), but at least his disguise isn't so fooling, yanno? You, I'd never have guessed. You should consider entering RuPaul's Drag Race; you'd be a great contender.
) and find the home you fit in [/B]best.[/QUOTE] @Nonie .....WEIrD???? YESSSSSSssss!!!! .... but you assumed i am of the female GENDER form eH???hmmmmmm.... tranny on DeCk![/QUOTE]
tHeHaIRLaB LOL! You had me fooled, tranny! I mean, the least you could do is look a bit like Andre J so it's a bit obvious. I love me some him...and think he's a true diva (divo?), but at least his disguise isn't so fooling, yanno? You, I'd never have guessed. You should consider entering RuPaul's Drag Race; you'd be a great contender.
FlowerHair
Reclaiming my time
I vote for a very pretty and lush 4a!!
Congrats on all the growth!
Congrats on all the growth!
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