Vintagecoilylocks said:
To Isis,
The reference of the "son's of God" not marrying the daughters of man is the same teachings of, be not unequally yoked. 2 Cor 6:14 " Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and communion hath light with dark?
So it has always been God's way for those who are in Christ not marry the unbelievers. The line of Seth were the righteous and the line of Cain were not. So it would make sense for God not to like those unions.
I did understand the question of the thread, as I can only find reference in scriptures as people in Christ being referred to as "son's of God" and no reference to angels being referred to as such. Then there being Christ as The Son of God.
There also is no further scripture to imply that the use of the word giants to only mean a hybrid form of human. Being a time so close to the fall the people of God, Seths line, lived longer and were stronger than the line of Cain. Remember he was cursed that the earth would not produce for him. His line should have died out if not for this intermarrying. His male line especially would have been weak and small. Where as Seth's line had continued strong and with a physical greatness. Also we call people who have accomplished great things giants to this day and it does not have to reflect on them only being of extreme size. Samson was blessed with great strength and abilities being of God, and there were tribes of giants still being produced. So in physical stature as well as abilities, accomplishments and intelligence these giants were men of renown and not have to be a hybrid human.
Gen 6: 4 is stating that these giants and men of renown exsisted before and after the mating with the daughters of men and not that they were the offspring of the union. As I understand you, you are stating on your belief that this union was what created the giants?
The scriptures Nu13:33, Deut2:10,20,21 3:11, Jos13:12, 17:, 18:16 shows that from the seed of Seth through Noah giants were still being born after the flood. Luke 3:23-38 clearly shows the direct line of blood from Seth through Noah and on to Christ. There were no hybrid/angels humans in this line. Since all life began anew through Noah then giants were from Seths blood for sure.
If indeed the angels only appeared human and not become human than again I ask how could they mate with humans. It seems that is giving them the power of God to alter creation. Again I could not find the scripture that would support this or show it happening as yet. I Cor 15:38" But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body. vs 39 All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beast, another of fishes, and another of birds. vs. 40 there are also celestrial bodies, and bodies terrestrial, but the glory of celestrial is one, and the glory of terrestial is another.....vs 47 "the first man is of the earth: the second man is the Lord from heaven. This verse sounds like there are definite distinctions in creation.
Could you state the scriptures which tell of such unions? And what are the offspring? Who are they ?
The idea of a hybrid race of people though seems to conflict with the rest of scriptures. The fallen angels were not wiped away in the flood. What prevented them from continuing in the action or do I understand you to be saying they have continued and these hybrids continued to be produced throught out bible times? If so how does salvation of men apply to them?
You did not see where I said the
scriptures called the giants "hybrids", that was
only me. Children born between humans and higher beings in a human form
to me are hybrids. According to Webster dictionary, the definition of hybrid is:
"an offspring of two animals or plants of different races, breeds, varieties, species, or genera". I was personally using this definition.
What happened between the angels and women had nothing to do with the line of Seth and Cain. The Bible does not say these giants are symbolic of those who have accomplished great things. These gigantic offspring, the Nephilim were destroyed. They were not allowed to multiply like everyone else. Sampson is
not an example of the Nephilim or giants. His story and experiences are completely different.
If indeed the angels only appeared human and not become human than again I ask how could they mate with humans. It seems that is giving them the power of God to alter creation. Again I could not find the scripture that would support this or show it happening as yet.
Angels materialized as humans as we can see in the Bible. They could eat and drink like humans and had human bodies. They obviously did mate with humans during
that particular time in history.
Humans today do have the power to alter creation and are doing so every day through genetic engineering and cloning. I believe humans cannot create another human from the dust of the ground as God can but yes, they can certainly alter creation.
And yes, there are distinctions and genres of beings on and off this planet as you stated. It sounds as if you have a hard time believing angels could mate with humans, as if it was impossible. As we see in the scriptures, many, many things happened that seems impossible, yet they did occur, if one believes in the Bible.
Could you state the scriptures which tell of such unions? And what are the offspring? Who are they ?
The only offspring we are discussing are from the "sons of God" or angels as mentioned in Genesis and human women and you read the scriptures in the previous posts. The offspring are called the Nephilim or giants (depending on your Biblical translation).
The idea of a hybrid race of people though seems to conflict with the rest of scriptures. The fallen angels were not wiped away in the flood. What prevented them from continuing in the action or do I understand you to be saying they have continued and these hybrids continued to be produced throught out bible times? If so how does salvation of men apply to them?
You never saw me post anything about the fallen angels wiped away in the flood or that hybrids continued to be produced. I do not believe this, it wouldn't make any sense. Please re-read my posts.
