MHM Hangout

[KiWiStyle]

Any suggestions for more moisturizing approved, leave-ins or cream stylers?
I'm finding both Kinky Curly Knot Today and Camille Rose Moisture Milk to be insufficient. I tried the CR Moisture Butter and HATED IT. It left my hair feeling so coated and heavy I washed it out the next day and passed it on to a friend with a TWA, who's loving it.
I also made the mistake of using the Aztec Clay in my last wash and my hair is not happy with me for it. The sodium bentonite is definitely more drying than the rhassoul can make up for so back to calcium bentonite for me. I'm also considering adding oils back into my mix for the winter.

I like Oyin Hair Dew. Both mine and my daughter's 4b/c hair love it. I use it as a leave-in and moisturizer.

 

[Ajna]

Any suggestions for more moisturizing approved, leave-ins or cream stylers?
I'm finding both Kinky Curly Knot Today and Camille Rose Moisture Milk to be insufficient. I tried the CR Moisture Butter and HATED IT. It left my hair feeling so coated and heavy I washed it out the next day and passed it on to a friend with a TWA, who's loving it.
I also made the mistake of using the Aztec Clay in my last wash and my hair is not happy with me for it. The sodium bentonite is definitely more drying than the rhassoul can make up for so back to calcium bentonite for me. I'm also considering adding oils back into my mix for the winter.

Personally I found after I condition or clay wash, I use oil and saturate my hair then I rinse out the excess, then proceed to my watered down leave in. My hair stays for more moisturized than and leave in alone.
HTH

 

[Ajna]

I have not been around for a bit but I am still on the MHM - maybe a bit modified though to keep it simple.
For example I wash about twice a week, once with clay and once with a DC, oil then leave in and gel, I still henna about once every 4-6 weeks, and I spritz my hair daily with rose water and a little oil or leave in.
So while I love it and my hair is stronger and has a much better curl pattern life is going to get crazy over the next month so I think I am going to get braids for the next few month.

Does anyone have any tips for maintaining lo-po hair in braids??

 

[Guinan]

Any suggestions for more moisturizing approved, leave-ins or cream stylers?
I'm finding both Kinky Curly Knot Today and Camille Rose Moisture Milk to be insufficient. I tried the CR Moisture Butter and HATED IT. It left my hair feeling so coated and heavy I washed it out the next day and passed it on to a friend with a TWA, who's loving it.
I also made the mistake of using the Aztec Clay in my last wash and my hair is not happy with me for it. The sodium bentonite is definitely more drying than the rhassoul can make up for so back to calcium bentonite for me. I'm also considering adding oils back into my mix for the winter.

For my leave-in I use my DC (tressume unruly). I just dont rinse out my DC. For my styler I usually use homemade FSG (approved), camile rose curl marker (I'm not too sure if it's approved) or botanical curls (non-approved).

 

[LavenderMint]

Personally I found after I condition or clay wash, I use oil and saturate my hair then I rinse out the excess, then proceed to my watered down leave in. My hair stays for more moisturized than and leave in alone.
HTH

I thought about oils/oil rinsing but I have yet to find an inexpensive one that doesn't make me break out. All of the commonly used carrier oils (coconut, olive, jojoba, etc) cause huge cystic acne at my hair line and where ever it sits on my facial skin. I can use a bit of olive oil in my clay because it's not a lot or sitting on my skin. Pumpkin seed oil is the only oil that hasn't messed with my skin but it's expensive; neither has castor oil but I'm only recently using it on my edges.

For my leave-in I use my DC (tressume unruly). I just dont rinse out my DC. For my styler I usually use homemade FSG (approved), camile rose curl marker (I'm not too sure if it's approved) or botanical curls (non-approved).

My Target always has just one sad bottle of the CR curl maker on the shelf and I always hesitate..... I want to try it, for the novelty of the pump alone because I hate handling slippery bottles while doing my hair. I don't think it is approved but..... meh.
Your tresemme... do you mean the new one, something-something unleashed or untamed? How do you like it? I want to try it but have too many other things to work on using up (like a 32oz jar of the Crece Pelo conditioner).

I did order the Giovanni Leave-In to try this week. It'll be here in time for my midweek wash for the holiday.

 

[LavenderMint]

I got it wrong- the Aztec Clay IS the calcium bentonite. Realized this going through and prepping for tomorrow's wash.
I have a jar of Indian Healing Clay that is the sodium bentonite; it just seems to work better with the rhassoul clay.

Any suggestions for more moisturizing approved, leave-ins or cream stylers?
I'm finding both Kinky Curly Knot Today and Camille Rose Moisture Milk to be insufficient. I tried the CR Moisture Butter and HATED IT. It left my hair feeling so coated and heavy I washed it out the next day and passed it on to a friend with a TWA, who's loving it.
I also made the mistake of using the Aztec Clay in my last wash and my hair is not happy with me for it. The sodium bentonite is definitely more drying than the rhassoul can make up for so back to calcium bentonite for me. I'm also considering adding oils back into my mix for the winter.

 

[Guinan]

I thought about oils/oil rinsing but I have yet to find an inexpensive one that doesn't make me break out. All of the commonly used carrier oils (coconut, olive, jojoba, etc) cause huge cystic acne at my hair line and where ever it sits on my facial skin. I can use a bit of olive oil in my clay because it's not a lot or sitting on my skin. Pumpkin seed oil is the only oil that hasn't messed with my skin but it's expensive; neither has castor oil but I'm only recently using it on my edges.


My Target always has just one sad bottle of the CR curl maker on the shelf and I always hesitate..... I want to try it, for the novelty of the pump alone because I hate handling slippery bottles while doing my hair. I don't think it is approved but..... meh.
Your tresemme... do you mean the new one, something-something unleashed or untamed? How do you like it? I want to try it but have too many other things to work on using up (like a 32oz jar of the Crece Pelo conditioner).

I did order the Giovanni Leave-In to try this week. It'll be here in time for my midweek wash for the holiday.

I completely forgot about giovanni leave-in! The giovanni is an awesome leave-in. Just make sure you dilute it. The tressume conditioner is the perfectly undone (I think that's the name) conditioner that I have been using. I stick to the MHM measurements of 2 oz conditioner and 6-8oz of water (I think that's the water measurements). Diluting my conditioners and leave-ins were my AHA! moment.

 

[Guinan]

I got it wrong- the Aztec Clay IS the calcium bentonite. Realized this going through and prepping for tomorrow's wash.
I have a jar of Indian Healing Clay that is the sodium bentonite; it just seems to work better with the rhassoul clay.

What are the differences that you noticed with the betonite clay vs the rhassoul clay? I just ordered a pound of rhassoul clay. I had been using the Aztec clay since I've started doing MHM but always wanted to experiment using different clays.

 

[GGsKin]

I ordered 1 pound of rhassoul clay off of Amazon. I can't wait to try it. I hope it mixes well with ACV

ACV makes the clay runny and I find rhassoul gets really runny with ACV so you don't need much at all.

 

[LavenderMint]

What are the differences that you noticed with the betonite clay vs the rhassoul clay? I just ordered a pound of rhassoul clay. I had been using the Aztec clay since I've started doing MHM but always wanted to experiment using different clays.

To me, it seems like there's more difference between sodium bentonite and calcium bentonite. The sodium bentonite seems more moisturizing and the rhassoul just bumps it up a notch. With the calcium bentonite, I end up with frizzy hair at the top of my head.
I've only ever used my rhassoul in combination with other clays.

ACV makes the clay runny and I find rhassoul gets really runny with ACV so you don't need much at all.

I didn't know that!! I've never done the clay wash w/o acv that I can recall......
I was back on the MHM site and the suggested consistency is less runny but not quite pancake batter thickness.... I was going with runnier because my rinse technique was seriously lacking & runnier leaves less clay residue on my scalp.

 

[Ajna]

I thought about oils/oil rinsing but I have yet to find an inexpensive one that doesn't make me break out. All of the commonly used carrier oils (coconut, olive, jojoba, etc) cause huge cystic acne at my hair line and where ever it sits on my facial skin. I can use a bit of olive oil in my clay because it's not a lot or sitting on my skin. Pumpkin seed oil is the only oil that hasn't messed with my skin but it's expensive; neither has castor oil but I'm only recently using it on my edges.

Oooo breaking out is no good! This is not quite like an oil rinse per say it is more like I take about two or three tablespoons of oil usually I take a little castor oil and almond, avocado or EVOO and then I apply it while my hair is soaking wet. I just pour it into my palm then I rake it through and rinse. Rinsing it seems to get out the excess but just enough seems to stay. When I do an oil rinse I use a lot more oil like 1/4 cup and I let that sit for about 30-40 minutes.

If you do decide to try it maybe focus on the bottom half of your hair so maybe it won't mess with your hair line.

Either way keep at it you will find just want you need

 

[KiWiStyle]

I know my hair is becoming more hydrated because my hair has coils after clarifying and stays coiled with tons of conditioner and steaming. I'm not sure what's contributing to the added hydration; more length or my new regimen with my whipped shea butter mix. Doing the mhm or revised version especially with only approved products didn't help hydrate my hair much, I think the whipped Shea butter was the game changer for me. My hair is plaited and covered 99% of the time now.

Today I clarified, applied my clay and rinsed immediately after I detangled, applied my DC and set under the steamer for 20 minutes. I just gave my hair and scalp a clean start for the next 4 weeks or so, then its rinse and repeat. I think I'm out the TWA phase but won't officially call it until my 1 year BC anniversary on December 19th!

 

[Cattypus1]

I know my hair is becoming more hydrated because my hair has coils after clarifying and stays coiled with tons of conditioner and steaming. I'm not sure what's contributing to the added hydration; more length or my new regimen with my whipped shea butter mix. Doing the mhm or revised version especially with only approved products didn't help hydrate my hair much, I think the whipped Shea butter was the game changer for me. My hair is plaited and covered 99% of the time now.

Today I clarified, applied my clay and rinsed immediately after I detangled, applied my DC and set under the steamer for 20 minutes. I just gave my hair and scalp a clean start for the next 4 weeks or so, then its rinse and repeat. I think I'm out the TWA phase but won't officially call it until my 1 year BC anniversary on December 19th!

WOW! @KiWiStyle i can't believe it's been that long! What is in your Shea butter mix?

 

[KiWiStyle]

WOW! @KiWiStyle i can't believe it's been that long! What is in your Shea butter mix?

@Cattypus1, IKR!! I use Naptural85 recipe.

 

[LavenderMint]

I know my hair is becoming more hydrated because my hair has coils after clarifying and stays coiled with tons of conditioner and steaming. I'm not sure what's contributing to the added hydration; more length or my new regimen with my whipped shea butter mix. Doing the mhm or revised version especially with only approved products didn't help hydrate my hair much, I think the whipped Shea butter was the game changer for me. My hair is plaited and covered 99% of the time now.

Today I clarified, applied my clay and rinsed immediately after I detangled, applied my DC and set under the steamer for 20 minutes. I just gave my hair and scalp a clean start for the next 4 weeks or so, then its rinse and repeat. I think I'm out the TWA phase but won't officially call it until my 1 year BC anniversary on December 19th!

I'm so glad to hear that!! Congrats!

My co-worker has been having issues very similar to yours with MHM so I've been listening for any tips I can pass on to her. I told her she had a hair twin here, now I can tell her to continue to be encouraged.

 

[hairtimes5]

@MeaWea had to laugh about the lonely bottle of CR curl maker, mine always has that one bottle too, at the most two.

So the last 2 times I did my hair I skipped the leave-in. I loved the look of it but not the feel so I'm going back to using a leave-in. I think the problem is that I'm too heavy-handed with it so I'll try to use less.

Anybody heard of Hairizon? I used to order Hello Curly from there. Anywho I was visiting my in-laws in NC last weekend and while at the mall I saw the Hairizon store. They sell all kinds of natural goodies there. They just created their own gel called You Go Curl and the owner gave me a sample. Used it last wash. My curls were poppin all over the place but alas it was too crunchy for me. I was able to scrunch it out though. All in all it's a nice gel but I'll be sticking to my CR curl maker since I can get it on the ground.

I think I mentioned this last yr around this time but I can just about literally feel my hair drying out with all the heat. Time to pull out the humidifier at night. I'm baggying today for some added moisture and will probably do my hair in the morning. So bored with my hair these days...

 

[Honey Bee]

So... I'm still here. Since about August, I've been in wigs and crochet braids, so... not too much going on. I'm doing my first wash since taking down the crochets now. I'm doing a protein treatment, clarify, dc and then I'll start MHM'ing tomorrow. I'll do the whole week and then put some more crochets in. (I'm on a personal PS challenge for retention, plus it's winter. I want a whole new head of hair by spring. )

 

[Ajna]

So... I'm still here. Since about August, I've been in wigs and crochet braids, so... not too much going on. I'm doing my first wash since taking down the crochets now. I'm doing a protein treatment, clarify, dc and then I'll start MHM'ing tomorrow. I'll do the whole week and then put some more crochets in. (I'm on a personal PS challenge for retention, plus it's winter. I want a whole new head of hair by spring. )

How long do you leave the crochets in?
And can you wash your hair with them in? I was considering them but I was concerned because I am taking a diving class in January so that means I will need to rinse and condition my hair.

 

[Honey Bee]

How long do you leave the crochets in?
And can you wash your hair with them in? I was considering them but I was concerned because I am taking a diving class in January so that means I will need to rinse and condition my hair.

I had them in around 6 wks, iirc. I didn't really wash my hair when I had them in. I used some stuff I got from Sally's, but for the most part, I left it alone. It was my first time with them and my hair traditionally does well in protective styles (not counting my naturally fine edges). I figured I'd leave it in for a while, let it do what it do, and assess after a while.

It seems like it fared well. My hair feels strong and I retained a lot of growth. Overall, I enjoyed the ease and will do it again.

 

[Ajna]

I had them in around 6 wks, iirc. I didn't really wash my hair when I had them in. I used some stuff I got from Sally's, but for the most part, I left it alone. It was my first time with them and my hair traditionally does well in protective styles (not counting my naturally fine edges). I figured I'd leave it in for a while, let it do what it do, and assess after a while.

It seems like it fared well. My hair feels strong and I retained a lot of growth. Overall, I enjoyed the ease and will do it again.

Thank you for sharing! Yeah I think I best try that after my swim class!

 

[Honey Bee]

Thank you for sharing! Yeah I think I best try that after my swim class!

I'm having some technical issues, but when I get it together, I'll post pics and discuss my take down. After all that MHM'ing, I didn't know if I'd be able to stand not getting to my hair. I also was concerned about dryness. But my sebum came through strong, so yay, and my hair popped right back. Hmm, I guess it really was well-moisturized before I put the crochets in. I'm kinda proud of that.

Yeah, it probably wouldn't be good for your purposes now. Maybe wigs (if you're comfortable with them).

 

[Ajna]

I'm having some technical issues, but when I get it together, I'll post pics and discuss my take down. After all that MHM'ing, I didn't know if I'd be able to stand not getting to my hair. I also was concerned about dryness. But my sebum came through strong, so yay, and my hair popped right back. Hmm, I guess it really was well-moisturized before I put the crochets in. I'm kinda proud of that.

Yeah, it probably wouldn't be good for your purposes now. Maybe wigs (if you're comfortable with them).

I think I will probably stick with the wash and go routine I have and wear a swim hat hopefully my hair won't get wet at all (probably wishful thinking lol)
Wigs can be tough for me because my hair needs to be braided tight or I get the lumps lol. So not cute!!

 

[GGsKin]

Friday night I removed my wig and bagged overnight. On Saturday, I undid my plaits and shampooed (diluted). I DCd for a while and then in my laziness, I just added my clay mix (s. bentonite and rhassoul + silk amino acids and a little apple cider vinegar) on top. After about 30mins, I washed it out, oiled, rinsed and gelled. I put my canerows back in and the wig has been reapplied.

I haven't really worn my hair loose since August (been wigging) but progress seems slow. The difference in length between the lower and upper sections of my hair is starting to look crazy. I haven't worn it straight but knowing is slightly jarring. I don't want to cut it yet but I can feel the urge rising because I want to like the shape when I wear it out. Here's a bad pic of my wet hair before gel. There is evidence of the shelf lol.

 

[faithVA]

Friday night I removed my wig and bagged overnight. On Saturday, I undid my plaits and shampooed (diluted). I DCd for a while and then in my laziness, I just added my clay mix (s. bentonite and rhassoul + silk amino acids and a little apple cider vinegar) on top. After about 30mins, I washed it out, oiled, rinsed and gelled. I put my canerows back in and the wig has been reapplied.

I haven't really worn my hair loose since August (been wigging) but progress seems slow. The difference in length between the lower and upper sections of my hair is starting to look crazy. I haven't worn it straight but knowing is slightly jarring. I don't want to cut it yet but I can feel the urge rising because I want to like the shape when I wear it out. Here's a bad pic of my wet hair before gel. There is evidence of the shelf lol.

I'm sure your hair is much longer than you imagine and growing quite nicely from what I can see.

 

[faithVA]

I did a mud wash with rhassoul and then DCd with Naturelle Grow Herbal Blends. I have really nice coils with the clay in. Not sure what I need to do to retain them. Maybe just using gel would work but I'm think I am going to wait until it warms up to try another wng. I'm doing a curlformer set tonight.

Terraveda Organix modified their max hydration bundle and shortened it from 7 products to 5. So I bought the new low porosity bundle on Black Friday. If I get it by next weekend, I will try it out and I may do a wng then to test the product out.

 

[LavenderMint]

I did a mud wash with rhassoul and then DCd with Naturelle Grow Herbal Blends. I have really nice coils with the clay in. Not sure what I need to do to retain them. Maybe just using gel would work but I'm think I am going to wait until it warms up to try another wng. I'm doing a curlformer set tonight.

Terraveda Organix modified their max hydration bundle and shortened it from 7 products to 5. So I bought the new low porosity bundle on Black Friday. If I get it by next weekend, I will try it out and I may do a wng then to test the product out.

I saw the post on IG that DubaiDee did about the Terra Vida organix stuff and was very curious. At t
his point, I'm getting tired of the prep time required for wash day & letting it deter me from the mid week wash. I'm contemplating getting a bottle of Terressentials just for midweek but I'd be willing to try other products.

How do you like that DC? I have a giant jar of Crece Pelo to work through but I still like trying new deep conditioners or leave-ins.

 

[LavenderMint]

Friday night I removed my wig and bagged overnight. On Saturday, I undid my plaits and shampooed (diluted). I DCd for a while and then in my laziness, I just added my clay mix (s. bentonite and rhassoul + silk amino acids and a little apple cider vinegar) on top. After about 30mins, I washed it out, oiled, rinsed and gelled. I put my canerows back in and the wig has been reapplied.

I haven't really worn my hair loose since August (been wigging) but progress seems slow. The difference in length between the lower and upper sections of my hair is starting to look crazy. I haven't worn it straight but knowing is slightly jarring. I don't want to cut it yet but I can feel the urge rising because I want to like the shape when I wear it out. Here's a bad pic of my wet hair before gel. There is evidence of the shelf lol.

I hate when people tell me that they don't see what I perceive as a flaw or personal shortcoming.... But I don't see the shelf. Your hair looks great!

 

[faithVA]

I saw the post on IG that DubaiDee did about the Terra Vida organix stuff and was very curious. At t
his point, I'm getting tired of the prep time required for wash day & letting it deter me from the mid week wash. I'm contemplating getting a bottle of Terressentials just for midweek but I'd be willing to try other products.

How do you like that DC? I have a giant jar of Crece Pelo to work through but I still like trying new deep conditioners or leave-ins.

I love the Herbal Blends. Right now its the only DC in my stash. I didn't care for her other conditioners but I really like this one.

I will provide a review on the Terra Veda when I use it.

 

[GGsKin]

Thanks @faithVA and @MeaWea. I can see the growth, but my hair appears 3-4 inches shorter than the longer strands (I haven't measured). The hair on top of my head grows so much slower than the hair lower down. I am trying to wait it out and see how it looks much longer but I'm not feeling the look right now. Thankfully, I'm hiding under the wig for the minute. From the comments my mum's been making, she's not feeling it lol smh.

 

[tashboog]

Hey ladies! I haven't posted in awhile cuz I'm protective styling until spring. I've been wearing twist and leaving them in 2-4 weeks depending on my mood.

I just wanted to let ya'll know that I also purchased the Terra Veda Organix bundle on Black Friday but I got the high porosity bundle. @faithVA I'll give a review on the high porosity version that way we'll have both reviews for each porosity type. I'm excited to try her line and I've heard good reviews so I'll keep you ladies posted .