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[guudhair]

@nycutiepie, I wouldn't because I don't think all of the clay and/or ACV will get completely out and cause extreme drying. While in braids or weave, I would only wash or do treatments with products I wouldn't mind if they didn't wash out completely (mild conditioners, certain oils, etc)

I've only had a weave once and could not get to my hair/scalp good to cleanse let along confirm all the product got rinsed out so that's what I'm going by

 

[Ajna]

I decided to weave up for the summer but I'm still watching this thread. Does anyone think I could clay wash in a weave if I heavily diluted it with ACV and/or water?

What would be the benefit? I always think with weaves and braids the most important part is keeping the scalp clean and the hair moisturized.
Clay is more of a detoxifier and cleanser don't you think?

Are you getting a curly one or a like a long straight one? I love the long curly ones but I have to tell you wash day is a bit intimidating.

 

[AJellyCake]

I'm enjoying one of the best wash n goes I've had in a long time!

I started with the CLCT. All the ingredients, except molasses because I didn't have any. Then TJTTT for about 2 hours, then clay for an hour (bentonite, ACV, and water to make a brownie batter consistency).

I used diluted Tresseme Perfectly Undone for my leave-in. Surprisingly, I used KKCC for my gel and had amazing results! I don't use it that often because the results usually aren't that great. This time I used a bit less than normal (2 quarter-sized amounts per section). After air-drying for a few hours (which did almost nothing!), I blow-dried lightly (without a diffuser because I'm traveling and didn't bring mine).

My hair is super soft, and I think shinier than normal. My 4a sections also seem more defined today, on day 2, than they normally are.

Happy hair!

 

[GGsKin]

I'm mad late to this forum post and I hope I'm not repeating anything anyone said already but... Have you considered you may have scab hair?
I don't know if you were relaxed before big chopping and for how long, but many women who bc find that their hair doesn't behave as they thought it would. Creams don't do anything, treatments, you name it. The thought is the relaxer is able to effect your hair beneath your scalp and sometimes the damaged hair grows out looking like your texture but is in fact damaged rougher hair.
Do you find the ends to be the worse behaved on your head? Usually this is a clear sign. I will try to find some articles/blogs/videos to share with you regarding this. Some think it's a myth, but I don't!

@DeeLiteFulEKinky It's interesting/ good spot that you mentioned this because @KiWiStyle came to the same conclusion earlier in the thread. I'm glad you (Kiwi) are finding a good rythym with your routine.

 

[GGsKin]

I used coconut milk in my clay mix yesterday I haven't done this in a good while and my hair felt good after... Once dried, it still felt good, but different. It's hard to explain.

Anyhow, I washed my hair again today. I applied diluted protein conditioner on dry hair (ends and crown) and kept on for about 40mins while I was gripped by a show. Washed it out and on to clay.

It seems my hair missed the silk amino acids I omitted from my past couple of clay mixes. I added that back today. I need to re-up- it's like my hair strands feel smoother. I'll definitely be keeping this in the mix.

I was tempted to try some fenugreek tea/paste today, but I was just excited. There is no need for me to do much else at the mo. These things can wait.

 

[KiWiStyle]

I'm mad late to this forum post and I hope I'm not repeating anything anyone said already but... Have you considered you may have scab hair?
I don't know if you were relaxed before big chopping and for how long, but many women who bc find that their hair doesn't behave as they thought it would. Creams don't do anything, treatments, you name it. The thought is the relaxer is able to effect your hair beneath your scalp and sometimes the damaged hair grows out looking like your texture but is in fact damaged rougher hair.
Do you find the ends to be the worse behaved on your head? Usually this is a clear sign. I will try to find some articles/blogs/videos to share with you regarding this. Some think it's a myth, but I don't!

@DeeLiteFulEKinky thanks and yes I believe in scab hair. I BC after 5.5 months post relaxer and researched scab hair extensively. I indeed had it and have cut my hair 3 times in six months to be rid of it. I may or may not still have some but I doubt it. I read it only last up to a few months post relaxer. I'm still seeing a few straight pieces that I just started cutting off again.

Thanks @AbsyBlvd ...I seemed to have reached a good place!

 

[guudhair]

I think I will wet my hair every other day in between wash days because my hair was super dry (think hay) today. I did a CLT tonight. I'm going to leave the conditioner in overnight and will post my results tomorrow.

 

[discodumpling]

I decided to weave up for the summer but I'm still watching this thread. Does anyone think I could clay wash in a weave if I heavily diluted it with ACV and/or water?

No. Sounds like disaster waiting to happen. Don't do it girl! Clay has many benefits why would you waste all that goodness on weave?

 

[AJellyCake]

Day 3 of this wash n go and my hair is looking RIGHT!!!!

It's still very soft and defined. I did gel my edges down today (didn't have to yesterday, and I probably could have gotten away without it today). I'm still wearing my hair down, which is interesting. Usually my edges, which are 4a, are kinda too smushed, stretched, dry at this point for me to wear all of my hair down on day 3. But that's hit or miss and had happened much less frequently since starting MHM.

I love the CLCT!!!! It always gives me great hair.

I'm enjoying one of the best wash n goes I've had in a long time!

I started with the CLCT. All the ingredients, except molasses because I didn't have any. Then TJTTT for about 2 hours, then clay for an hour (bentonite, ACV, and water to make a brownie batter consistency).

I used diluted Tresseme Perfectly Undone for my leave-in. Surprisingly, I used KKCC for my gel and had amazing results! I don't use it that often because the results usually aren't that great. This time I used a bit less than normal (2 quarter-sized amounts per section). After air-drying for a few hours (which did almost nothing!), I blow-dried lightly (without a diffuser because I'm traveling and didn't bring mine).

My hair is super soft, and I think shinier than normal. My 4a sections also seem more defined today, on day 2, than they normally are.

Happy hair!

 

[DeeLiteFulEKinky]

@DeeLiteFulEKinky thanks and yes I believe in scab hair. I BC after 5.5 months post relaxer and researched scab hair extensively. I indeed had it and have cut my hair 3 times in six months to be rid of it. I may or may not still have some but I doubt it. I read it only last up to a few months post relaxer. I'm still seeing a few straight pieces that I just started cutting off again.

Thanks @AbsyBlvd ...I seemed to have reached a good place!

Got it!

 

[DeeLiteFulEKinky]

I did slack off last week and the week before, and realized that I really cant go more than 3 days before the next wash. I also realize, I need to do the full reggie, and just co-washing or water rinsing or clay washing doesn't work for me. I also realized that a good leave in mix for me is as follows: KCNT & Oyin Hair dew heavily diluted, followed by Oyin Burnt sugar (like half a dime spread over 1/4 of my hair and yes, yes, I was told not to use because of the wax, but my hair doesn't seem to mind it at all, and feels best when I add this in) followed by a teeny tiny amount of KCCC (like 1/4 a dime size spread over the same 1/4 of hair).
My hair dries soft and defined.

 

[nycutiepie]

@nycutiepie, I wouldn't because I don't think all of the clay and/or ACV will get completely out and cause extreme drying. While in braids or weave, I would only wash or do treatments with products I wouldn't mind if they didn't wash out completely (mild conditioners, certain oils, etc)

I've only had a weave once and could not get to my hair/scalp good to cleanse let along confirm all the product got rinsed out so that's what I'm going by

Thanks @guudhair!

 

[guudhair]

1. Clarify: CLT
2. Condition: keraPro Restorative Intense Treatment (UA) w/heating cap then overnight
3. Mud: bentonite clay, Moroccan clay, ACV, water
4. Leave-In: SM Kids Curling Butter Cream
5. Seal: flaxseed gel

Ends were already feeling dry even though it's still wet at the roots. I sprayed with water and put it all in a puff. The ends are coily but that's it. I can't wait until I reach max hydration and figure out what products my hair likes :-/.

 

[nycutiepie]

What would be the benefit? I always think with weaves and braids the most important part is keeping the scalp clean and the hair moisturized.
Clay is more of a detoxifier and cleanser don't you think?

Are you getting a curly one or a like a long straight one? I love the long curly ones but I have to tell you wash day is a bit intimidating.

I have a long wavy sew in. I'm not gonna use the clay. I'm just going through withdrawal. Lol

 

[nycutiepie]

No. Sounds like disaster waiting to happen. Don't do it girl! Clay has many benefits why would you waste all that goodness on weave?

I was actually gonna use an applicator bottle to get to my scalp and tracks but you're right.

 

[Honey Bee]

I did slack off last week and the week before, and realized that I really cant go more than 3 days before the next wash. I also realize, I need to do the full reggie, and just co-washing or water rinsing or clay washing doesn't work for me. I also realized that a good leave in mix for me is as follows: KCNT & Oyin Hair dew heavily diluted, followed by Oyin Burnt sugar (like half a dime spread over 1/4 of my hair and yes, yes, I was told not to use because of the wax, but my hair doesn't seem to mind it at all, and feels best when I add this in) followed by a teeny tiny amount of KCCC (like 1/4 a dime size spread over the same 1/4 of hair).
My hair dries soft and defined.

I've been using a curl cream by the black company that sells JBCO (blanked on the name, smells delicious btw) after my l-i and before the gel. I must say, my hair has been pleased.

Do what you gotta do.

 

[Ajna]

I was actually gonna use an applicator bottle to get to my scalp and tracks but you're right.

There was this dry shampoo I used when I had braids it was ORS herbal something or other. But it really worked out because I would use that on week 1 wash week 2 and it keep my scalp in good condition and prevented build up.

Perhaps that could work for you

Long and wavy I bet it is pretty! Enjoy your break

 

[snoop]

Thanks! Those pics are with and without clarifying.

I'm not keen on using bs but I will try another CLCT this week and take pictures.

In the first picture: 1) with CLCT; 2) with Kaolin clay; 3) after final rinse
In the second picture: After the final rinse

My curls are a bit more defined but I only really see that from binding my hair. I didn't feel that the CLCT helped a whole lot. I didn't clarify first, but I don't think the difference
would be significant. I have to figure out why water sits on my hair and if it's really a bad thing (for me). Until then, I'm going to go back to lurking. Thanks for your help ladies!

 

[AJellyCake]

Have any of you tried doing the clay step overnight? I want to try bentonite + ACV overnight but I'm not sure how it will turn out.

I haven't gotten to the point where I can do just clay + gel. I'm still using be a diluted leave-in.

 

[Cattypus1]

Have any of you tried doing the clay step overnight? I want to try bentonite + ACV overnight but I'm not sure how it will turn out.

I haven't gotten to the point where I can do just clay + gel. I'm still using be a diluted leave-in.

I have done the clay over night and I don't really see a difference between an hour or so or over night. The only reason I do over night is be use I'm lazy and I want to get all the steps in in "one" session. I use rhassoul, my hair didn't like bentonite, too drying. It almost made me give up on the clay step.

 

[Rain20]

@snoop do u think your hair might be highly porous? If so maybe tweak the MHM regimen since it is geared toward low porosity hair.

 

[GGsKin]

Have any of you tried doing the clay step overnight? I want to try bentonite + ACV overnight but I'm not sure how it will turn out.

I haven't gotten to the point where I can do just clay + gel. I'm still using be a diluted leave-in.

I've tried clay overnight when I was doing the original (Pinke Cube) regimen. I liked it then, but I also tried it with a sodium bentonite/ rhassoul mix (I think both bentonites alone are too drying for me to do this now). I don't think I needed to leave the clay on that long (it was just laziness/ tiredness prevented me from completing).

 

[discodumpling]

Ive done clay overnight simply cause its too late at night to rinse it out. Like Cattypus1 said there is no visible difference in an hour or sometimes less treatment and overnight.
OMG its been 2 + weeks since i last used clay...i think ive reached my limit and will make every effort to get it in this weekend!

 

[tallnomad]

Hi Ladies--I'm trying to make my way through this entire thread. I did a Cherry Lola-Caramel Treatment yesterday. Took me hours to apply because my hair is uber thick. I fell asleep with this treatment in. Is this bad?!

Now I'm going to continue onto step 2 and pray that I can get through this routine every day for a week.

Question: I have a small amount of Bentonite Clay and a lot of a pre-mix of Rhassoul clay by Naturalicious. I love the Naturalicious brand, however, it contains aloe and glycerine. I know that these are no-no's on the approved list. Should I only stick to the Bentonite? Or, do you think it would be okay for me to use the Naturalicious mix?

Thank you in advance!

 

[DeeLiteFulEKinky]

I was lazy last night so I just did a runny clay wash. I put less clay than usual but everything I usually use I put in. It did feel a bit oily, not overly so, but my hair today feels really soft, defined, and maybe more shrinkage. I noticed more coils and less "s" curls. It's like my hair isn't weighed down as much so it's springy. I like it. I followed up with my leave in mix of diluted KCKT and Hair Dew, then topped with KCCC. I skipped the burnt sugar cause my hair already felt moisturized from the clay wash and leave in. I think I may have to do this during the week so I can try to increase my frequency. And on the weekend do the full reggie but using ACV primarily and the BS 1x a month.
I only am now entertaining ACV because I want to see how my hair does as that for a clarified over BS.

 

[DeeLiteFulEKinky]

Hi Ladies--I'm trying to make my way through this entire thread. I did a Cherry Lola-Caramel Treatment yesterday. Took me hours to apply because my hair is uber thick. I fell asleep with this treatment in. Is this bad?!

Now I'm going to continue onto step 2 and pray that I can get through this routine every day for a week.

Question: I have a small amount of Bentonite Clay and a lot of a pre-mix of Rhassoul clay by Naturalicious. I love the Naturalicious brand, however, it contains aloe and glycerine. I know that these are no-no's on the approved list. Should I only stick to the Bentonite? Or, do you think it would be okay for me to use the Naturalicious mix?

Thank you in advance!

In my opinion, I think it's best to try things as layed out first and avoid no-no products to see what's working and what's not. If you modify early on I think it makes it harder to know what's missing or what needs modifying. Does that make sense?

 

[faithVA]

Hi Ladies--I'm trying to make my way through this entire thread. I did a Cherry Lola-Caramel Treatment yesterday. Took me hours to apply because my hair is uber thick. I fell asleep with this treatment in. Is this bad?!

Now I'm going to continue onto step 2 and pray that I can get through this routine every day for a week.

Question: I have a small amount of Bentonite Clay and a lot of a pre-mix of Rhassoul clay by Naturalicious. I love the Naturalicious brand, however, it contains aloe and glycerine. I know that these are no-no's on the approved list. Should I only stick to the Bentonite? Or, do you think it would be okay for me to use the Naturalicious mix?

Thank you in advance!

Have you ever used the Naturalicious brand before? How did your hair react? If it is all you have I think you will be OK for now. You may not get the same results. If your hair felt hard or dry afterwards, I would say discontinue. Alternate between the Bentonite and the Nautralicious until you get more clay. With the glycerin in the mix, you may or may not get a good wng but it is worth a try. And if you can't do the method every day then just do every 3 days. The 7 days is just a jump start but you won't have bad results if you do every 3 days.

 

[tallnomad]

Have you ever used the Naturalicious brand before? How did your hair react? If it is all you have I think you will be OK for now. You may not get the same results. If your hair felt hard or dry afterwards, I would say discontinue. Alternate between the Bentonite and the Nautralicious until you get more clay. With the glycerin in the mix, you may or may not get a good wng but it is worth a try. And if you can't do the method every day then just do every 3 days. The 7 days is just a jump start but you won't have bad results if you do every 3 days.

Thank you for the detailed response!

I have used the Naturalicious brand and liked it a lot. Gave my curls pop and made my hair super easy to detangle, but I went right into a weave.

I did find some pure rhassoul clay powder that should give me enough for 2-3 applications. Then, I also have about one application on the bentonite. Thanks for mentioning the every 3 days too. I'm going to try to go for 7, but you gave me "permission" to do every 3 if need be. Thank you!!!

 

[snoop]

@snoop do u think your hair might be highly porous? If so maybe tweak the MHM regimen since it is geared toward low porosity hair.

@Rain20. I think I've tried both ways and my hair reacts the same. I want to believe that I was starting off with neutral porosity because the descriptions of low/high porosity didn't fully match my hair.

My hair did respond to the last CLCT but I would have to find a BS substitute since I don't feel comfortable using it long term. For now I think I'm going to go back to my regular regi (which includes regular clay washes) but I'll keep an eye on these posts since I'm learning a lot here.

 

[GGsKin]

I did a cycle last night. My hair (particularly ends) was feeling kind of cripsy. I pondered that I maybe needed some moisture in the form of a DC as I didn't do one after my protein shot on Monday.

So I mixed some KCKT, Faith In Nature's Hemp and Meadowfoam (love the scent) and some SM Purification Masque and diluted with warm/hot water. I applied to waterinsed hair and left this on (baggied) for about 2hrs because I got caught up doing stuff. When I washed it out my hair felt like it had accepted the product, especially the back. I finished up with the usual; clay (with SAAs), oils and gel.

Today, the hair that is dry (the ouside of my banana clip ponypuff) feels better than it did on Tuesday when my hair dried.

I will heed my hair and ease up on the protein for now, even on my damaged areas. I guess its had all the protein it needs for the time being.

OAN, even though its heating up now, I'm considering putting my hair away smh, just so I can let it be and not look at it for a while but not sure I want to use synthetic kinky hair. But I have bagfulls of the stuff. Decisions decisions.