MHM Hangout

[faithVA]

I'm hoping this is true! This Winter was brutal and because I'm in the house a lot my hair didn't stand a chance. As the dew point and humidity rises, I'm hoping to hydrate faster.

Just in: The AIA curling jelly isnt working either . It's actually lighter than the KCCC and my hair lost water at a faster rate. With the he kccc, it seems to grab the water and hold it there in my hair...AIA allowed too much water to constantly leave my strands dripping down my face. It was not as defined during and after application. It's not dry yet but I already gave up on it....its going back to Target.

Sorry it didn't work out for you. Maybe your hair doesn't like glycerin. Hopefully you will find something that works well.

So far I am finding that my hair is hydrating at a consistent pace but it isn't fast. But my hair seems to act differently than everyone in the thread.

 

[Evolving78]

I'm so messed up with this gel thing! No pomades either? I am the queen of wash and go! These were my go to products! Now that I'm natural again, the world is different from 5 years ago! Lol see the protein is what gives me the hold I need! It keeps everything in place! I didn't mind the cowashing daily, until my hair got longer. This is where I believe this method will come in handy for me. If it will help with the tangles and knots, I will give the whole method a try.

Now I'm trying to figure out is it doing the treatment for 7 days, then sticking to the product list? Am I not suppose to use shampoo? I am a firm believer in using shampoo. I will keep reading some more. Oh do I have to do the clay treatment? I have clay. I used it but it is red and messy. I only used it in a small spot. Can I just do the cherry Lola treatment?

 

[Evolving78]

Ok I'm going to try the whole treatment today. I don't think I have an approved gel around here. I may have some from Qhemet. So I will use an oil to seal.

 

[faithVA]

I'm so messed up with this gel thing! No pomades either? I am the queen of wash and go! These were my go to products! Now that I'm natural again, the world is different from 5 years ago! Lol see the protein is what gives me the hold I need! It keeps everything in place! I didn't mind the cowashing daily, until my hair got longer. This is where I believe this method will come in handy for me. If it will help with the tangles and knots, I will give the whole method a try.

Now I'm trying to figure out is it doing the treatment for 7 days, then sticking to the product list? Am I not suppose to use shampoo? I am a firm believer in using shampoo. I will keep reading some more. Oh do I have to do the clay treatment? I have clay. I used it but it is red and messy. I only used it in a small spot. Can I just do the cherry Lola treatment?

Are you sure you really want to do this method? Why don't you just do your current method and add a clct when you want to. Without the clay its not mhm, its just cowashing. It's the clay that is going to help eliminate the tangles. This method is set up to avoid many things that are drying to the hair (shampoos, typical washes, stylers).

There are still plenty of ladies in the wng thread using products that you like.

You don't have to do 7 straight days. You can just wash every 3 days.

It sounds like you have red or pink clay which is messy and I can't stand it. You can try adding some milk to it to see if you can thicken it up but its still going to be messy. Most of use are using calcium bentonite, sodium bentonite or rhassoul.

Original Method (every 3 to 4 days)
1. clarify with the baking soda or acv mix or clct
2. cowash/DC
3. clay wash
4. leave-in
5. gel

Modifield Method (every 3 to 4 days)
1. clay or water rinse
2. Gel

with clct every 2 to 4 weeks

 

[Evolving78]

Are you sure you really want to do this method? Why don't you just do your current method and add a clct when you want to. Without the clay its not mhm, its just cowashing. It's the clay that is going to help eliminate the tangles. This method is set up to avoid many things that are drying to the hair (shampoos, typical washes, stylers).

There are still plenty of ladies in the wng thread using products that you like.

You don't have to do 7 straight days. You can just wash every 3 days.

It sounds like you have red or pink clay which is messy and I can't stand it. You can try adding some milk to it to see if you can thicken it up but its still going to be messy. Most of use are using calcium bentonite, sodium bentonite or rhassoul.

Original Method (every 3 to 4 days)
1. clarify with the baking soda or acv mix or clct
2. cowash/DC
3. clay wash
4. leave-in
5. gel

Modifield Method (every 3 to 4 days)
1. clay or water rinse
2. Gel

with clct every 2 to 4 weeks

I'm going to give it a go! I may use the messy clay I got, or make a run later to the health food store. I will grab some gel too.
So the clarifying step is done once out o I would really like to be a loose natural when the time comes. I always said I can't do the loose hair, and that I would just loc it. It would be nice to have a big fro or twist out, without having to worry about knots and tangles. If I don't get all of the products needed soon, I will definitely do it when I get some length.

 

[faithVA]

I'm going to give it a go! I may use the messy clay I got, or make a run later to the health food store. I will grab some gel too.
So the clarifying step is done once out o I would really like to be a loose natural when the time comes. I always said I can't do the loose hair, and that I would just loc it. It would be nice to have a big fro or twist out, without having to worry about knots and tangles. If I don't get all of the products needed soon, I will definitely do it when I get some length.

What was your question about clarifying?

If you are doing the full method, you do the baking soda/acv clarifying each wash.

If you are doing the modified method, you will wash with a clarifying shampoo just 1x before you do your first clct. Then you don't clarify after that because you aren't using any products that build up.

 

[Evolving78]

What was your question about clarifying?

If you are doing the full method, you do the baking soda/acv clarifying each wash.

If you are doing the modified method, you will wash with a clarifying shampoo just 1x before you do your first clct. Then you don't clarify after that because you aren't using any products that build up.

Thank you for helping me! I didn't want you to repeat yourself! Lol

 

[hairtimes5]

Finally got around to doing my hair this morning. I hadn't wet my hair in almost a week and it was quite dry so I decided to cowash first with Tresemme Radiant Volume before doing a clay wash. I made some flaxseed gel using the recipe on the MHM website by natural50, slightly modifying it. I added a cup of avj to it to thin it out enough to use it in a spray bottle. My hair is about 90% dry and so far so good. I'm hoping to do a flexirod set this weekend. I say that every week btw...

Oh yeah if anyone is interested the clay wash that I use, Naturalicious 5-in-1 rhassoul clay treatment will be on sale tomorrow for $10.

 

[DeeLiteFulEKinky]

@DeeLiteFulEKinky Oyin burnt sugar pomade should be used sparingly on this method because it can cause build up. Clarifying with baking soda or ACV may not be enough to remove the pomade so you will end of having to use shampoo which could slow down your progress.

@DeeLiteFulEKinky You should really be using a gel to seal your hair. Gels will do the same job like a butter to seal your hair and protect your ends.

 

[DeeLiteFulEKinky]

(Whining) I really don't like the crispy crunch of gel and I really like the pomade.
Sigh...
It must be the wax in the pomade since everything else is oil. And clearly others use gel without crunch... Share your secrets please. Oil under the gel? Dilute the gel... Which I did to the KCCC 1:4 and it was not cool man. Not cool. Maybe it would be softer in a twist out??

 

[Guinan]

Little nervous about straightening my hair. I measured my hair and i have various lengths from 8-9inches. I might try to even it up abit. I've been doing well with this method but when I feel a knot I pull them out instead of cutting them.

 

[Guinan]

(Whining) I really don't like the crispy crunch of gel and I really like the pomade.
Sigh...
It must be the wax in the pomade since everything else is oil. And clearly others use gel without crunch... Share your secrets please. Oil under the gel? Dilute the gel... Which I did to the KCCC 1:4 and it was not cool man. Not cool. Maybe it would be softer in a twist out??

I get crunchiness on day 1 of my wng but the next day after I refresh my hair the crunch is gone. I use fsg or botanical curls(not aapproved)

 

[aharri23]

Where is everyone getting their sodium bentonite from? I want to make sure I buy good quality clay at a reasonable price. Bulk apothecary does $1.69/lb but I had a bad experience with them when I bought Rhassoul

 

[discodumpling]

I had great results from my overnight clay process. I might get around to taking a pic. But we're dealing with some shocking news and the details are just now coming in. My son's football coach was shot in broad daylight today. The Rosedale Jets are a tightknit group so we're all just learning about this. I cannot STAND US sometimes but I digress.

Yeah my hair is nice today.

 

[GGsKin]

Here was tonight's effort towards MH.

Clarify..I haven't used shampoo in at least 6 months! Tonight I used ORS Creamy Aloe.
Clay: Rhassoul (4TSP), SAA (1TSP), AVJ 1/4cup, Oils: Argan, Castor, Grapeseed, & Water.
2 baggies & a doo-rag and goodnight!
I'll rinse, leave in and gel tomorrow.
Oh and this mix was super slippy most likely due to the SAA's. My hair detangled very easily. Application was also made easier because my hair was damp/wet as opposed to a dry clay application.

I was perusing the SAA thread and decided to make a purchase. I'm interested in seeing how it will react with my hair when used in my clay.

 

[Guinan]

@discodumpling, wow.that's crazy. I hope he pulls through

 

[GGsKin]

 

[GGsKin]

(Whining) I really don't like the crispy crunch of gel and I really like the pomade.
Sigh...
It must be the wax in the pomade since everything else is oil. And clearly others use gel without crunch... Share your secrets please. Oil under the gel? Dilute the gel... Which I did to the KCCC 1:4 and it was not cool man. Not cool. Maybe it would be softer in a twist out??

I get crunch. But it's not bad. I've felt the crunch of my homemade flaxseed gel...It really wasn't The One. After day 2/3 my hair's been handled and steamed a bit and the hold is much softer.

But then again, maybe I'm just used to it now. I know it's good for me.

 

[GGsKin]

Where is everyone getting their sodium bentonite from? I want to make sure I buy good quality clay at a reasonable price. Bulk apothecary does $1.69/lb but I had a bad experience with them when I bought Rhassoul

The last batch I bought was from Butters n Bars.

 

[GGsKin]

I had great results from my overnight clay process. I might get around to taking a pic. But we're dealing with some shocking news and the details are just now coming in. My son's football coach was shot in broad daylight today. The Rosedale Jets are a tightknit group so we're all just learning about this. I cannot STAND US sometimes but I digress.

Yeah my hair is nice today.

Sorry to hear about your news. It truly is shocking.

 

[faithVA]

I had great results from my overnight clay process. I might get around to taking a pic. But we're dealing with some shocking news and the details are just now coming in. My son's football coach was shot in broad daylight today. The Rosedale Jets are a tightknit group so we're all just learning about this. I cannot STAND US sometimes but I digress.

Yeah my hair is nice today.

Glad to hear about your hair. Sorry to hear about the coach. Did he survive?

 

[DeeLiteFulEKinky]

Little nervous about straightening my hair. I measured my hair and i have various lengths from 8-9inches. I might try to even it up abit. I've been doing well with this method but when I feel a knot I pull them out instead of cutting them.

I do this too, bad habit for sure.

 

[discodumpling]

http://m.nydailynews.com/new-york/n...mercedes-benz-queens-street-article-1.2203956

He did not survive. The story is shady and a bit inaccurate. Coach Gorman had 3 babies.

 

[DeeLiteFulEKinky]

I had great results from my overnight clay process. I might get around to taking a pic. But we're dealing with some shocking news and the details are just now coming in. My son's football coach was shot in broad daylight today. The Rosedale Jets are a tightknit group so we're all just learning about this. I cannot STAND US sometimes but I digress.

Yeah my hair is nice today.

WOW! my thoughts and prayers for him and his family.

 

[snoop]

I didn't have time to make flaxseed gel to add to the clay so I did the (modified) ACV clay wash today instead. I decided to steam it as well (30 minutes). It made my hair so much easier to detangle. I'm going to try steaming with the milk version to see if I get the same ease of use.

To tell the truth I still don't know if I'm high po or lo po. The water test doesn't work for me. My hair always floats (lo po?) What I did notice is that if I stretched the strand it would quickly coil (high po?)

Question: with the modified method, do I *have* to detangle on the water wash days or can just thoroughly wet my hair? (I leave my hair in twists.)

 

[Holla4mom]

http://m.nydailynews.com/new-york/n...mercedes-benz-queens-street-article-1.2203956

He did not survive. The story is shady and a bit inaccurate. Coach Gorman had 3 babies.

I'm so sorry to hear that discodumpling. I know it must be a shocking loss to you and your community. Praying for his family, especially his little ones.

 

[KiWiStyle]

Sorry it didn't work out for you. Maybe your hair doesn't like glycerin. Hopefully you will find something that works well.

So far I am finding that my hair is hydrating at a consistent pace but it isn't fast. But my hair seems to act differently than everyone in the thread.

I'm not going to return it because my hair dried without a crunch so I really like that. The definition is about the same or slightly less...actually my hair loves glycerin. I use oyin Greg juice when the dew point is 35 or above.
I think my hair is being stubborn and is doing what it wants no days.

OASN: I'm getting a permanent color on Friday . I'm nervous and happy at the same time...I have these patches of gray that is working my nerves and the semi and demi colors fade too fast. I don't know what to expect so wish me luck!

 

[faithVA]

I didn't have time to make flaxseed gel to add to the clay so I did the (modified) ACV clay wash today instead. I decided to steam it as well (30 minutes). It made my hair so much easier to detangle. I'm going to try steaming with the milk version to see if I get the same ease of use.

To tell the truth I still don't know if I'm high po or lo po. The water test doesn't work for me. My hair always floats (lo po?) What I did notice is that if I stretched the strand it would quickly coil (high po?)

Question: with the modified method, do I *have* to detangle on the water wash days or can just thoroughly wet my hair? (I leave my hair in twists.)

You don't have to detangle. I rinsed in twist when I wore them.

You probably aren't low porosity. If you were you would know without a glass test. Product would just sit on your hair and it would be hard to moisturize even if you tried LOC. When you rinsed, water would just bead up on your hair and you would have to squeeze your hair to get it wet or let your hair sit under water for a long time.

 

[faithVA]

I'm not going to return it because my hair dried without a crunch so I really like that. The definition is about the same or slightly less...actually my hair loves glycerin. I use oyin Greg juice when the dew point is 35 or above.
I think my hair is being stubborn and is doing what it wants no days.

OASN: I'm getting a permanent color on Friday . I'm nervous and happy at the same time...I have these patches of gray that is working my nerves and the semi and demi colors fade too fast. I don't know what to expect so wish me luck!

Maybe try mixing the AIA and the KCCC. I would try it but I don't have any AIA and I refuse to buy any until I use up some of these gels. I found the AIA to give me better 2nd day hair than the KCCC.

What brand of color are you going to use? and what color are you going to color it.

 

[GGsKin]

I'm not going to return it because my hair dried without a crunch so I really like that. The definition is about the same or slightly less...actually my hair loves glycerin. I use oyin Greg juice when the dew point is 35 or above.
I think my hair is being stubborn and is doing what it wants no days.

OASN: I'm getting a permanent color on Friday . I'm nervous and happy at the same time...I have these patches of gray that is working my nerves and the semi and demi colors fade too fast. I don't know what to expect so wish me luck!

Good luck. Can't wait to see some pics.