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For the most part my hair is normal. But those thirsty areas are low-po I guess.
That's what I thought. I wonder if that's why you're able to have some success without sticking to the "approved" products and with various modifications, like my 2 daughters (one high po, one normal). I wanted to point that out for the newbies, because I find my lo-po hair is much less forgiving with different products and the build up is crazy. It takes experimenting though to see what your hair can handle.
 
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Can someone fill me in. I have a ton of EOs. I used to add EOs to my TJTTT to aid in helping my scalp... Rosemary, lavender and ylang ylang.
You had mentioned some good ones in an earlier comment- peppermint, Tea Tree, etc. Lavender also is anti-fungal/viral/bacterial so it may help. I got the best results with the stimulating herbs, like peppermint. After awhile though, (I think I did overnight DC's 7x in 2 weeks) with all that overnight conditioning and no shampoo, I do think there can be a build up on the scalp so I don't recommend doing it as much as I did, even with the EOs.
 
I didn't say I didn't like it. I said it doesn't do anything special to my hair. My hair isn't softer or more defined. It doesn't give me any more slip. Its definitely better than the calcium bentonite which just dries my hair out but it wasn't better on my hair than rhassoul.

Wow really? Rhassoul is too messy for me, it stains my shower heavily unlike Benonite and it cost 3x more. You also have to use a lot more clay to get a thick consistency (in addition to it being 3x more..) Doesn't de-tangle as well. Glad I found out about the sodium bentonite. Only bad thing is I have 2 lbs of rhassoul sitting in my bathroom.
 
I didn't say I didn't like it. I said it doesn't do anything special to my hair. My hair isn't softer or more defined. It doesn't give me any more slip. Its definitely better than the calcium bentonite which just dries my hair out but it wasn't better on my hair than rhassoul.

Hey y'all thanks for replying, I have a quick update. I tried sodium bentonite clay for the first time today and it is definitely a game changer. It really melts into my hair and my hair has a ton of slip and is easy to detangle. I think using rhassoul may have had something to do with not getting all the tangles (dubaii4c says that benonite gets tangles out better, and I definitely noticed that) and also using milk. I noticed I get more slip with clay + water + a splash of acv instead of using clay + milk + honey.

Gonna go back to modified MHM (I know im all over the place! I'm really trying to perfect my regimen) but sodium bentonite clay is the business...it's like calcium bentonite clay only the texture is really smooth and melts into the hair. Maaan this stuff is amazing. FaithVA i know you said you didn't like sodium benonite clay but I was wondering why? Also I'm sorry sweet soul magic didnt work for you...I would just make a homemade gel with xanthan gum and some oils because my hair looks better when using my homemade gel versues sweet soul magic so I probably won't repurchase.
Thanks for the update! I agree about the ACV giving the best slip with the clay. I am using Calcium Bentonite with added milk powder, slippery elm and sage powder, and starting this week I do an EVOO/honey rinse first to try to combat any possible dryness. If I could get the sodium bentonite on the ground, I'd sure try it. If the Calcium Bentonite stops working well for me, I may get the Sodium Bentonite instead of rhassoul since I see some good bulk prices for that online.
 
You had mentioned some good ones in an earlier comment- peppermint, Tea Tree, etc. Lavender also is anti-fungal/viral/bacterial so it may help. I got the best results with the stimulating herbs, like peppermint. After awhile though, (I think I did overnight DC's 7x in 2 weeks) with all that overnight conditioning and no shampoo, I do think there can be a build up on the scalp so I don't recommend doing it as much as I did, even with the EOs.
Thanks. Next time I DC over night, I'll add some EOs
 
I had really good results yesterday by adding honey/evoo to dry hair, rinsing it out with very warm water and following up with a clay wash of calcium bentonite/slippery elm/milk powder/sage with just ACV and water. I had tried adding the honey and oils to the clay mix and my hair didn't clump well. I also had tried adding it after the clay mix, before the gel and same thing- declumping. Adding it before and following up with the clay to wash it out and define the coils seems like a winning combo for my hair.

Tonight I heated an EVOO/honey/water mix and am steeping my homemade herbal tea bags (nettle, horsetail, marshmallow root) in the mixture. I will see if I can use a little of this as a pre-poo going forward and if I keep getting good results.
 
Wow really? Rhassoul is too messy for me, it stains my shower heavily unlike Benonite and it cost 3x more. You also have to use a lot more clay to get a thick consistency (in addition to it being 3x more..) Doesn't de-tangle as well. Glad I found out about the sodium bentonite. Only bad thing is I have 2 lbs of rhassoul sitting in my bathroom.

I think you got a bad batch of rhassoul which is why we aren't comparing the same thing. My rhassoul is the same consistency as my sodium bentonite and they look exactly the same. Neither are messy. And the rhassoul is on $9 and the calcium bentonite is $6 so they aren't that much different in price. I also buy my rhassoul in bulk and with a 25% discount so I'm paying about the same for rhassoul as I would for calcium bentonite.

I do use more rhassoul than calcium bentonite. But I use about the same sodium bentonite as rhassoul.

Just sell the rhassoul in the exchange forum. Someone will probably buy it.
 
I'm doing the full regimen and now getting ready to go under the dryer with curl junkie curl rehab moisturizing treatment. This is the best and most moisturizing approved conditioner. It's pricey but you only need a little because it's super concentrated. I'm gonna debate doing the clay tonight vs in the AM but this is ridiculous. This is gonna be it on this full regimen because I'm doing the modified next week. :yep:
 
@KiWiStyle When I was on the BHM forum pinkecube recommended the Giovanni gel as a thick gel option. I did try it and it is thicker but it also leaves a harder gel cast then some of the custard type approved gels. You may want to try it to see if it'll weigh down your hair. I would recommend applying a light oil before applying this gel so that your gel cast isn't too crunchy.
Thanks @tashboog I'll grab a jar/tube from whole Foods to compare, I can return it if it doesn't work out. I'm willing to try anything that isn't drying or has tons of proteins and crap in it.
 
It works well on my hair because it is fairly heavy and forces curl definition. I have never used any gels like ecostyler though so I can't compare. But because it is more natural I am thinking it is not going to be like an ecostyler. To me it is similar to kccc but more defining.

I haven't used any synthetic gels so I really can't compare it to curl activator gels either. I try to keep the synthetic ingredients off my scalp if I can. I have really only tried the natural gels.
I have a feeling I'm going to like the curling jelly too...I loved everything by AIA as I was transitioning and only stopped using the brand because it isn't approved.
 
That stuff just give me soft frizzy coils, and not much definition. Ecostyler gel does the trick for me. If i want to refresh my style, I just use a watery spray. If not, I cowash and do this as a wash and go. The gel keeps my hair from knotting and tangling up!

Thanks @shortdub78 , Lol! Are you talking about the curling Jelly? I haven't touched EcoStyler since being natural...I'm terrified it'll dry my hair like the mohabbi desert. Though I admit I thought about trying it just to see how the heavier gel will work in comparison to KCCC...I'm scared I'll be hooked then jacked, Lol.
 
Did you already try flaxseed gel? I don't think it's a "heavy" gel per say but I find it does have good hold. Then again I've never used a synthetic gel like Ecostyler on this regimen, so I'm not sure. I think the watery, looser gels are water soluble and easier to wash out without having to introduce shampoo into the regimen. It would be great if you can find a heavier botanical gel.

Thanks @Holla4mom...I haven't tried making my own flaxseed gel yet, I spend so much time in the kitchen cooking and baking that the thought of it exhausts me. Maybe I'll consider ordering the one on the approved list.
 
Sorry in advance for all the separate replies, don't know how to do multiples.

Thanks @AbsyBlvd , I'm thinking of trying the AIA Curling Jelly. I have the smoothing gel but I've only recently used it on my edges for an event which btw didn't work, Lol.

I like the curling jelly- just as much definition as KCCC but with a slightly softer hold. The only thing is it does make my roots puffier- I'm thinking the glycerin for some reason (I don't mind this certain times, so I know when to use it;)).
 
I like the curling jelly- just as much definition as KCCC but with a slightly softer hold. The only thing is it does make my roots puffier- I'm thinking the glycerin for some reason (I don't mind this certain times, so I know when to use it;)).

I'm hoping it'll hold my coils until it dries. For some reason, kccc defines but as its drying loses some definition, then has a semi- firm hold.
 
I think you got a bad batch of rhassoul which is why we aren't comparing the same thing. My rhassoul is the same consistency as my sodium bentonite and they look exactly the same. Neither are messy. And the rhassoul is on $9 and the calcium bentonite is $6 so they aren't that much different in price. I also buy my rhassoul in bulk and with a 25% discount so I'm paying about the same for rhassoul as I would for calcium bentonite.

I do use more rhassoul than calcium bentonite. But I use about the same sodium bentonite as rhassoul.

Just sell the rhassoul in the exchange forum. Someone will probably buy it.

No I've been using the butters n bars one yall have been suggesting. Sodim bentonite is $2 a pound if you buy in bulk compared to $9 for rhassoul. Thats 3x more..
 
So apparently I can't skip steps 1 & 2 of the original mhm. Last night because I was tired (read: lazy) I decided to rinse my hair with water, then apply the clay and leave for 30 mins then, KCNT Oyin hair dew and pomade. I should have known when my hair still felt coated during the water rinse that I did need to clarify. Everything looked like normal last night. I chunky twisted and went to bed. I unraveled my hair that was slightly damp still ... It always is... And it's puffy and frizzy and shrunken but soft. It's like my hair is standing away from my scalp so I'll be gathering my hair into a high pony/puff and call it the day. I might have to wait to be at max hydration before I take shortcuts. You live and learn.
 
I'm hoping it'll hold my coils until it dries. For some reason, kccc defines but as its drying loses some definition, then has a semi- firm hold.
That should get better as your hair hydrates. Sounds like your hair is losing moisture before it dries and the kccc cant hold onto it so the definition is lost with the moisture. The as I am probably does slightly better just because of the glycerin holding onto the water.

With either you may need a few more months of hydration before the definition stays locked in more.
 
I was thinking on this for myself, as I feel like the original regimen is fine right now and using KCNT then Oyin hair dew and burnt sugar pomade on top doesn't take away from my definition. Not so much that I'd notice. My hair is usually sopping wet when I apply the three tho, so I don't know if that helps.
@DeeLiteFulEKinky Oyin burnt sugar pomade should be used sparingly on this method because it can cause build up. Clarifying with baking soda or ACV may not be enough to remove the pomade so you will end of having to use shampoo which could slow down your progress. My hair is high porosity and it loves butters. I want to use them so bad, but it will slow down my hydration so I'm not using any butters while I'm on this regimen. I've just wanted to make sure you are aware of this. You should really be using a gel to seal your hair. Gels will do the same job like a butter to seal your hair and protect your ends.
 
No I've been using the butters n bars one yall have been suggesting. Sodim bentonite is $2 a pound if you buy in bulk compared to $9 for rhassoul. Thats 3x more..

That's true. She does sell her sodium bentonite very low which would make it much less than the rhassoul. I purchased a different brand of sodium bentonite last time so it wasn't inexpensive.

Not sure why your rhassoul is messy. My rhassoul and sodium bentonite are the same consistency.

As long as you found something you like.
 
So apparently I can't skip steps 1 & 2 of the original mhm. Last night because I was tired (read: lazy) I decided to rinse my hair with water, then apply the clay and leave for 30 mins then, KCNT Oyin hair dew and pomade. I should have known when my hair still felt coated during the water rinse that I did need to clarify. Everything looked like normal last night. I chunky twisted and went to bed. I unraveled my hair that was slightly damp still ... It always is... And it's puffy and frizzy and shrunken but soft. It's like my hair is standing away from my scalp so I'll be gathering my hair into a high pony/puff and call it the day. I might have to wait to be at max hydration before I take shortcuts. You live and learn.
Its probably just the products you are using. You probably have a build up of conditioner and oyin on your hair. The modified is a good way to get a wash in when you don't have time for the full wash if you are doing the full version.
 
Its probably just the products you are using. You probably have a build up of conditioner and oyin on your hair. The modified is a good way to get a wash in when you don't have time for the full wash if you are doing the full version.
Any type of butter or pomade can cause build up which is why I don't use butters on this regimen. I vaguely remember pinkecube said to use it sparingly or for better results to avoid it and to stick with the gel to seal in the moisture.
 
That's true. She does sell her sodium bentonite very low which would make it much less than the rhassoul. I purchased a different brand of sodium bentonite last time so it wasn't inexpensive.

Not sure why your rhassoul is messy. My rhassoul and sodium bentonite are the same consistency.

As long as you found something you like.

They are the same in terms of consistency, im talking about when I rinse out my rhassoul in the shower it stains my shower with a brown tint that I have to really scrub to get out. With bentonite it just rinses down the drain with no mess. I have no idea why this happens
 
They are the same in terms of consistency, im talking about when I rinse out my rhassoul in the shower it stains my shower with a brown tint that I have to really scrub to get out. With bentonite it just rinses down the drain with no mess. I have no idea why this happens

Oh! No, I hadn't noticed that. I don't know why that happens either. Do you have a water filter? Maybe there is something in the water that is mixing with the clay.
 
@faithVA , how are you getting the 25% discount? I want to buy some rhassoul.

Butters N Bars has a sale probably every other month. You can sign up on her mailing list or watch the What's On Sale This Month thread to see when she has a sale. It usually is 20% to 25% off. She just had a sale last weekend. You do have to pay shipping. I usually just buy 5 lbs at a time so I don't have to buy often.
 
That should get better as your hair hydrates. Sounds like your hair is losing moisture before it dries and the kccc cant hold onto it so the definition is lost with the moisture. The as I am probably does slightly better just because of the glycerin holding onto the water.

With either you may need a few more months of hydration before the definition stays locked in more.

I'm hoping this is true! This Winter was brutal and because I'm in the house a lot my hair didn't stand a chance. As the dew point and humidity rises, I'm hoping to hydrate faster.

Just in: The AIA curling jelly isnt working either . It's actually lighter than the KCCC and my hair lost water at a faster rate. With the he kccc, it seems to grab the water and hold it there in my hair...AIA allowed too much water to constantly leave my strands dripping down my face. It was not as defined during and after application. It's not dry yet but I already gave up on it....its going back to Target.
 
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