MHM Hangout

[HopefulOne]

Thanks all for your suggestions, I really do appreciate them! If anyone can think of a possible cause and a fix later, please tell. I have a meeting at 9am so I'm going to sleep on it. I'll just wet my hair and apply gel in the morning. Hopefully I'll figure it out. Sent from my SM-N900V using LHCF

Kiwi I don't have a solution for you but I hope you and the experts in this thread figure it out quickly.

 

[KiWiStyle]

KiWiStyle sorry about your MHM woes. I've been looking for some kind of answer but I am struggling- #novice problems (yes I'm still hash tagging). I was thinking if you haven't changed anything else, maybe it was the humectant in the conditioner (dipropylene glycol) but then I don't know much about ingredients, I don't know if your weather gives you those kinds of issues with humectants, or if it is even high enough on the list (about 7th) to have any kind of effect on your hair like that. But you said you'd take any input

Thank you for reaching for a solution for me! My house hasn't been much more humid than before and the dew points are just now creaping up here in Chicago to normal but no humectant issues. My leave in products doesn't have any humectants so I'm stumped there. I use dikuted KCKT for my leavein.

Sent from my SM-N900V using LHCF

 

[faithVA]

Thank you for reaching for a solution for me! My house hasn't been much more humid than before and the dew points are just now creaping up here in Chicago to normal but no humectant issues. My leave in products doesn't have any humectants so I'm stumped there. I use dikuted KCKT for my leavein.

Sent from my SM-N900V using LHCF

My suggestion is to clarify with a diluted shampoo. Then cowash with the natural radiants, leaving the conditioner on no more than 10 minutes. Then use the clay for 30 minutes to 1 hour. Use no more than 1/8 tsp of ACV if any and see where you stand. I think you need to get back to a clean base. I think the conditioners are starting to build up in your hair and weighing your hair down.

The softer my hair is the less definition it has.

 

[Cattypus1]

My suggestion is to clarify with a diluted shampoo. Then cowash with the natural radiants, leaving the conditioner on no more than 10 minutes. Then use the clay for 30 minutes to 1 hour. Use no more than 1/8 tsp of ACV if any and see where you stand. I think you need to get back to a clean base. I think the conditioners are starting to build up in your hair and weighing your hair down. The softer my hair is the less definition it has.

I swear you are the Bom! Your advise is always on point and even if it's not directed at me I'm always paying attention because I know there's good information there. I love this thread.

 

[faithVA]

I swear you are the Bom! Your advise is always on point and even if it's not directed at me I'm always paying attention because I know there's good information there. I love this thread.

Well thank you. I'm just sharing what's going on with me. I had this issue weeks ago before I switched over to the modified. My hair was nice and soft and moisturized. But the more I washed the less definition I had. I noted in my journal sometime in January I thought conditioner was the culprit but wasn't able to really see it until I clarified 2 weeks ago.

On Wednesday I wore a rod set and my hair was so soft and moisturized but I used the CR Aloe Whip and my hair was just poodle poofy Some ingredients just make my hair poof versus define.

 

[Guinan]

In all your pics, your hair is lovely. May I ask if your hair is Type 4? If so would you consider it 4a? It sounds like you had s-curl definition even before starting this regimen. I just want to make sure I have realistic expectations for my hair when looking at different heads of curls based on where they actually started.

Yup I'm 4a/b. My main issues are SSK, dryness, Knots and frizz. I've been doing this method since August and I still haven't reached max hydration. At this point I don't care, I'm just glad that the ssk, knots and frizz are a minimum

 

[Holla4mom]

I know this was asked before in the thread but without the search button I can't find it.

How do I post pictures? I took some on my phone and now it's on my computer but when I try to insert it here I can't.

 

[Guinan]

I know this was asked before in the thread but without the search button I can't find it.

How do I post pictures? I took some on my phone and now it's on my computer but when I try to insert it here I can't.

Yassss pics!!!!! If your using a computer go to "Manage attachments". If your using your phone select "Attachments". With either option you can then upload your pics.

 

[Guinan]

Its a hot mess and coupling frizzy hair with grays popping up and needing a lining...I wanna hat!! I'm going to do the entire regimen tonight/morning and hopefully the clay will resolve some of my issue. Thanks for asking @pelohello

Sent from my SM-N900V using LHCF

That sucks!!! I hate days like that. Hopefully you can find a solution.

 

[faithVA]

Yassss pics!!!!! If your using a computer go to "Manage attachments". If your using your phone select "Attachments". With either option you can then upload your pics.

Note that pictures have a maximum size especially on the phone. It will let you know its too big on the computer. On your phone it will just not show the "Insert Inline". Insert the pictures first and then the text. If I try to type first it will only let me insert 1 picture. The app is a mess

 

[hairtimes5]

My suggestion is to clarify with a diluted shampoo. Then cowash with the natural radiants, leaving the conditioner on no more than 10 minutes. Then use the clay for 30 minutes to 1 hour. Use no more than 1/8 tsp of ACV if any and see where you stand. I think you need to get back to a clean base. I think the conditioners are starting to build up in your hair and weighing your hair down.

The softer my hair is the less definition it has.

I was thinking this too but wasn't on here yesterday so I wanted to read all the responses before I said anything. My hair has been acting a fool for about a month. I clarified with a clarifying shampoo last weekend and my hair is so much happier. Even the clay step, which I've been having problems with, went so much better.

 

[HopefulOne]

I swear you are the Bom! Your advise is always on point and even if it's not directed at me I'm always paying attention because I know there's good information there. I love this thread.

Co sign, Miss Faith is my go to for all things Hair

 

[KiWiStyle]

faithVA I agree with everyone, you are definitely the bomb.com!!!!!

I actually clarified with Redken Chelating cleansing Cream earlier in the week before my CLCT because I was reading your responses to others and because I was experiencing a setback. I didn't dilute it though. I think I have considered everything but I will follow the other advice you listed and hopefully I'll see a change.

Why do you think our hair is losing definition as its becoming more hydrated? I can't make any sense of it but it seems to be the most probable cause of it.

Sent from my SM-N900V using LHCF

 

[faithVA]

faithVA I agree with everyone, you are definitely the bomb.com!!!!!

I actually clarified with Redken Chelating cleansing Cream earlier in the week before my CLCT because I was reading your responses to others and because I was experiencing a setback. I didn't dilute it though. I think I have considered everything but I will follow the other advice you listed and hopefully I'll see a change.

Why do you think our hair is losing definition as its becoming more hydrated? I can't make any sense of it but it seems to be the most probable cause of it.

Sent from my SM-N900V using LHCF

I don't think a cleansing cream will do it because its still a cream. Cleansing creams are closer to conditioners than shampoos. But you can try it though.

The hair isn't lowing definition because of hydration. Its losing it due to build up. The layers of conditioners in steps 1, 2 and 4 are starting to build up to a point that 1 application of clay cannot remove. And after a few weeks its enough build up to weigh the hair down.

Try using a regular shampoo on just 1 section of your hair to compare. Not a moisturizing shampoo but something that is more clear.

 

[KiWiStyle]

I don't think a cleansing cream will do it because its still a cream. Cleansing creams are closer to conditioners than shampoos. But you can try it though.

The hair isn't lowing definition because of hydration. Its losing it due to build up. The layers of conditioners in steps 1, 2 and 4 are starting to build up to a point that 1 application of clay cannot remove. And after a few weeks its enough build up to weigh the hair down.

Try using a regular shampoo on just 1 section of your hair to compare. Not a moisturizing shampoo but something that is more clear.

I don't know why they call it cleansing cream but its a clarify/chelating shampoo. Its not as drying as most clarifying and chelating shampoos. I'll try a regular clear shampoo.

Sent from my SM-N900V using LHCF

 

[faithVA]

faithVA I agree with everyone, you are definitely the bomb.com!!!!!

I actually clarified with Redken Chelating cleansing Cream earlier in the week before my CLCT because I was reading your responses to others and because I was experiencing a setback. I didn't dilute it though. I think I have considered everything but I will follow the other advice you listed and hopefully I'll see a change.

Why do you think our hair is losing definition as its becoming more hydrated? I can't make any sense of it but it seems to be the most probable cause of it.

Sent from my SM-N900V using LHCF

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[kiannack]

I've been having issues with my hair. I did GHE a few nights ago and my hair has been frizzier since then and the same happened the previous time I did a GHE overnight. I thought maybe adding ACV to my clay rinse would help. My hair is most defined when I do the CLCT but the next time I do the regimen my hair loses that definition. I haven't used conditioner for a few weeks now. I think my hair may need protein more often. If anyone has any ideas I'm all ears.

 

[faithVA]

I don't know why they call it cleansing cream but its a clarify/chelating shampoo. Its not as drying as most clarifying and chelating shampoos. I'll try a regular clear shampoo.

Sent from my SM-N900V using LHCF

OK I looked at the ingredients but I'm no ingredient guru. Lol.

 

[faithVA]

I've been having issues with my hair. I did GHE a few nights ago and my hair has been frizzier since then and the same happened the previous time I did a GHE overnight. I thought maybe adding ACV to my clay rinse would help. My hair is most defined when I do the CLCT but the next time I do the regimen my hair loses that definition. I haven't used conditioner for a few weeks now. I think my hair may need protein more often. If anyone has any ideas I'm all ears.

You may be high porosity and need more protein. Maybe just stop gheing all together.

 

[faithVA]

Co sign, Miss Faith is my go to for all things Hair

I appreciate the vote of confidence but I'm struggling through like others. I just try to get back to basics to narrow some stuff down. And I try to keep up with my reading on all 3 ladies so I can pass on what they are saying.

 

[faithVA]

Sitting with the clct on now. I'm tired. Doing the strand separation is a lot of work. For my hair I do think its necessary though because my hair has a lot of webbing.

I put the high porosity clct on the left and low porosity on the right. The low porosity side was easier to separate. But the right side of my hair is easier to deal with anyway. I will rinse around 10:15. I will take some pics.

 

[faithVA]

Finished the clct. I couldn't tell any difference in the way the sides looked but the low porosity clct was more moisturizing for my hair so I will stick with it. I then used dubaidees clay recipe. It was very easy to detangle with and I had a lot of definition with the clay in.

I had some definition after rinsing but my clumps just clumped all together. I spritzer with diluted kccc. Then I did small sections with as I am. I can't seem to capture good pictures but I will post what I have tomorrow.

Next wash I may try an extremely diluted leave in to see if I get more slip with the gel until I have more definition.

I'm glad I don't have to do clct for another two weeks.

 

[faithVA]

This is after the gel and still pretty wet. This is the most defined my hair has been since I started. And my hair isn't a big frizz ball.





The next two are after rinsing out the clct. My front sides will be the last sections to hydrate but they are progressing.







The modified regimen seems to be working for me, so I'm definitely going to stick with it for the rest of March. I won't say I will never use conditioner or leave in again but I won't be going back to the original regimen.

 

[HopefulOne]

This is after the gel and still pretty wet. This is the most defined my hair has been since I started. And my hair isn't a big frizz ball. The next two are after rinsing out the clct. My front sides will be the last sections to hydrate but they are progressing. The modified regimen seems to be working for me, so I'm definitely going to stick with it for the rest of March. I won't say I will never use conditioner or leave in again but I won't be going back to the original regimen.

Go head, Miss Faith, looking good.

 

[GGsKin]

This is after the gel and still pretty wet. This is the most defined my hair has been since I started. And my hair isn't a big frizz ball.

The next two are after rinsing out the clct. My front sides will be the last sections to hydrate but they are progressing.

The modified regimen seems to be working for me, so I'm definitely going to stick with it for the rest of March. I won't say I will never use conditioner or leave in again but I won't be going back to the original regimen.

Your hair is coming along nicely. Lookin very good faithVA

 

[KiWiStyle]

faithVA you're progressing very nicely!! You're getting there girl!!

Sent from my SM-N900V using LHCF

 

[faithVA]

Thank you ladies. I'm glad to finally see some progress. Was going backwards for a moment. Its even better than it was 2 weeks ago. Now I need some length. So this will get tucked away again for now.

 

[faithVA]

The strand separation really helps but the amount of time it takes me is painful. I know its a no no but next clct, I'm going to try combing it through first. We will see what happens.

I stood in the shower so long yesterday that I ended up with cramps in my feet

 

[discodumpling]

Happy Sat'day Morn Ladies!

It's a grey rainy day in NYC and i'm sitting with my clay and condish mix.

My hair was super thirsty after sleeping without a scarf last night.

My clay mix consisted of:
3 tsp of rhassoul
1/2tsp Silk Amino Pwdr
capfull of Grapeseed,
capfull of Jojoba
and a squirt of my body/hair oil (EVOO, Coconut, Pracaxi, Argan, Castor)
A generous squirt of V05 moisture something or the other
A splash of Aloe Vera Juice
Water until it turns into a smooth milk chocolatey colored mousse.

I separate the strands as much as I can. If I have to work too hard at this stage then my hair isn't ready to be de-tangled. I just leave it be and allow the mix to work out the tangle. The addition of heat also helps. So i'll be sitting under the dryer for up to 1/2 hr before rinsing.

 

[trebell]

Happy Sat'day Morn Ladies! It's a grey rainy day in NYC and i'm sitting with my clay and condish mix. My hair was super thirsty after sleeping without a scarf last night. My clay mix consisted of: 3 tsp of rhassoul 1/2tsp Silk Amino Pwdr capfull of Grapeseed, capfull of Jojoba and a squirt of my body/hair oil (EVOO, Coconut, Pracaxi, Argan, Castor) A generous squirt of V05 moisture something or the other A splash of Aloe Vera Juice Water until it turns into a smooth milk chocolatey colored mousse. I separate the strands as much as I can. If I have to work too hard at this stage then my hair isn't ready to be de-tangled. I just leave it be and allow the mix to work out the tangle. The addition of heat also helps. So i'll be sitting under the dryer for up to 1/2 hr before rinsing.

I might try this mix.