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[KiWiStyle]

I heated my clay today and has the same results. My hair was thicker but I didn't have any tangles and it felt good. I found out that I really don't like TJTT. I think I am going to stay with This clay heating while I have these good results.

I was reading thru Pink's thread on BHM for the first time today and she did say heating/steaming the clay is good I think I'll try it tomorrow. I have over 300 pages to read, I'm down 100 so I'm learning a lot more.

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[faithVA]

It seem like steaming the clay would be messy. Is it?

 

[aharri23]

Has anyone tried doing a wash and go on damp/dry hair?

 

[HopefulOne]

I was reading thru Pink's thread on BHM for the first time today and she did say heating/steaming the clay is good I think I'll try it tomorrow. I have over 300 pages to read, I'm down 100 so I'm learning a lot more. Sent from my SM-N900V using LHCF

That is good to know thanks Kiwi Style. I don't feel like I am out here doing something wrong.

 

[SimplyWhole]

What is BHM?

QUOTE=KiWiStyle;21104825]I was reading thru Pink's thread on BHM for the first time today and she did say heating/steaming the clay is good I think I'll try it tomorrow. I have over 300 pages to read, I'm down 100 so I'm learning a lot more.

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[Cattypus1]

How much are you ladies diluting your leave-ins? Does it almost look like water or is it still pretty creamy? Seems like when I watched DanaB hers looked like water. Anyone not use a leave-in?

I think about 50:50.

 

[Cattypus1]

I was reading thru Pink's thread on BHM for the first time today and she did say heating/steaming the clay is good I think I'll try it tomorrow. I have over 300 pages to read, I'm down 100 so I'm learning a lot more. Sent from my SM-N900V using LHCF

I don't "heat" the clay but I do use very warm water to mix it. I do it because it feels good going on my hair and scalp.

 

[Adiatasha]

What is BHM? QUOTE=KiWiStyle;21104825]I was reading thru Pink's thread on BHM for the first time today and she did say heating/steaming the clay is good I think I'll try it tomorrow. I have over 300 pages to read, I'm down 100 so I'm learning a lot more. Sent from my SM-N900V using LHCF

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SimplyWhole

It's a website called black hair media

 

[KiWiStyle]

It seem like steaming the clay would be messy. Is it?

I guess it would be messy....I have the terry cloth headband I bought back when I bought my steamer so it catch the drippies.

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[KiWiStyle]

What is BHM?

QUOTE=KiWiStyle;21104825]I was reading thru Pink's thread on BHM for the first time today and she did say heating/steaming the clay is good I think I'll try it tomorrow. I have over 300 pages to read, I'm down 100 so I'm learning a lot more.

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Black Hair Media forum.

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[KiWiStyle]

How much are you ladies diluting your leave-ins? Does it almost look like water or is it still pretty creamy? Seems like when I watched DanaB hers looked like water.

Anyone not use a leave-in?

I don't measure...I know its diluted a lot, enough where it isn't thick anymore. Mine is very liquidy too and I smooth the residual off like DanaBNatural does so my gel doesn't dry white

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[atlien11]

Finally checking back in. I have had fabulous results with MHM. I did the clay step again and its working amazingly well, FINALLY! ( I have been using Rhassoul clay). My curls have been very defined and I couldn't be more pleased. Just as a recap here is my regimen:

Step 1. I co-wash with Traders Joes conditioner with a 2 tsp of baking soda to encourage opening the cuticles (I am low porosity). I let it sit in while i finish my shower and then I lightly rinse. No longer.

Step 2. I DC with various DC's that i have in my stash on any given day. I sit under my salon steamer for about 30-35 minutes. I really think this step has help step up my moisture game and also allows me to shorten step 1 since its opening up the cuticle and infusing moisture into my strands Rinse.

Step 3. I hand mix Rhassoul clay, DISTILLED WATER, a little conditioner (Aubrey HSR), and a tsp of avocado oil. I mix it to a milkshake consistency and I find that the conditioner helps the clay go on smoother-- I let this sit on for about an hour. I have been doing this step about once a week, not every time i do this regimen. Rinse thoroughly!

Step 4: At this point my curls are heavy and hanging (due to the clay) I mix a dollop of Kinky Curly Custard and Giovanni Direct Leave-in together in a bowl. I apply to my hair in sections and do about 8-9 light twists. My hair would take 2 full days to air dry so I add this step in so that it can dry overnight mostly. I sleep on the twists under a scarf until the next morning.

Step 5: The next day i take the twists down and use a diffuser to finish if my hair still isn't dry. I also change the nozzle from the diffuser to the regular nozzle and hit my roots on low heat to stretch my curls. This takes about 15-20 minutes. I fluff and go.

a few notes: I moved from atlanta to philly two months ago and the water is super hard here. I had my boyfriend install shower filters and i also make sure that I steam and style my hair with distilled water. I also just bought some chelating shampoo which i will be using once a month.

The times that i do not use the clay step, i can tell a difference but its not enough to outweigh the time i save by skipping this step. Also I do MHM every 2-3 days, not every day. With that being said, I realized that once a week is not enough to keep moisture levels up.

I Pineapple my hair at night. I always get better second day hair for some reason and getting in the shower first thing with no shower cap on helps revive my curls.

Im trying to use finger detangling more and only use my Tek brush once a week, but its been hard. baby steps i guess

 

[GGsKin]

How much are you ladies diluting your leave-ins? Does it almost look like water or is it still pretty creamy? Seems like when I watched DanaB hers looked like water.

Anyone not use a leave-in?

I put about 2-2.5 ounces of conditioner in an 8oz applicator bottle and fill it up with warm/hot water. It is watery to look at in the bottle but still has a creamy consistency/slip to touch.

 

[GGsKin]

atlien11 I've had a shower filter for going on 4 months. I definitely notice the difference in how my hair used to feel vs now when I finish washing. It feels softer and lighter now vs feeling weighed down or coated.

 

[HopefulOne]

atlien11 I've had a shower filter for going on 4 months. I definitely notice the difference in how my hair used to feel vs now when I finish washing. It feels softer and lighter now vs feeling weighed down or coated.

Do you have a filtration system at your water heaters or on your shower head itself? I would like to get one myself.

 

[GGsKin]

Do you have a filtration system at your water heaters or on your shower head itself? I would like to get one myself.

If I owned my house I would get a whole system but I have the Sprite shower head kind. I'll use hot water from the shower to mix my clay. The filter lasts around 3 months and I've changed it once.

 

[faithVA]

Thanks everyone for the leave-in dilution info. I think I will try AbsyBlvd's way and try it on the watery side to see how that works. I have been using Curls Ecstasy and even with 8 oz of water it still is very thick. I think I will play around with 1 oz to see how much water I can add to it before it gets watery.

 

[aharri23]

Finally checking back in. I have had fabulous results with MHM. I did the clay step again and its working amazingly well, FINALLY! ( I have been using Rhassoul clay). My curls have been very defined and I couldn't be more pleased. Just as a recap here is my regimen:

Step 1. I co-wash with Traders Joes conditioner with a 2 tsp of baking soda to encourage opening the cuticles (I am low porosity). I let it sit in while i finish my shower and then I lightly rinse. No longer.

Step 2. I DC with various DC's that i have in my stash on any given day. I sit under my salon steamer for about 30-35 minutes. I really think this step has help step up my moisture game and also allows me to shorten step 1 since its opening up the cuticle and infusing moisture into my strands Rinse.

Step 3. I hand mix Rhassoul clay, DISTILLED WATER, a little conditioner (Aubrey HSR), and a tsp of avocado oil. I mix it to a milkshake consistency and I find that the conditioner helps the clay go on smoother-- I let this sit on for about an hour. I have been doing this step about once a week, not every time i do this regimen. Rinse thoroughly!

Step 4: At this point my curls are heavy and hanging (due to the clay) I mix a dollop of Kinky Curly Custard and Giovanni Direct Leave-in together in a bowl. I apply to my hair in sections and do about 8-9 light twists. My hair would take 2 full days to air dry so I add this step in so that it can dry overnight mostly. I sleep on the twists under a scarf until the next morning.

Step 5: The next day i take the twists down and use a diffuser to finish if my hair still isn't dry. I also change the nozzle from the diffuser to the regular nozzle and hit my roots on low heat to stretch my curls. This takes about 15-20 minutes. I fluff and go.

a few notes: I moved from atlanta to philly two months ago and the water is super hard here. I had my boyfriend install shower filters and i also make sure that I steam and style my hair with distilled water. I also just bought some chelating shampoo which i will be using once a month.

The times that i do not use the clay step, i can tell a difference but its not enough to outweigh the time i save by skipping this step. Also I do MHM every 2-3 days, not every day. With that being said, I realized that once a week is not enough to keep moisture levels up.

I Pineapple my hair at night. I always get better second day hair for some reason and getting in the shower first thing with no shower cap on helps revive my curls.

Im trying to use finger detangling more and only use my Tek brush once a week, but its been hard. baby steps i guess

Thank you for the tip about using distilled water. I just bought some Rhassoul Clay. 5lb for $30. I pay $13 for 2 lbs of bentonite so it is almost the same. Can't wait till my order arrives!

 

[KiWiStyle]

Thanks everyone for the leave-in dilution info. I think I will try AbsyBlvd's way and try it on the watery side to see how that works. I have been using Curls Ecstasy and even with 8 oz of water it still is very thick. I think I will play around with 1 oz to see how much water I can add to it before it gets watery.

Great choice! The extra water helps the conditioner navigate through your hair and the extra can easily be slid/squeezed off the hair.

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[KiWiStyle]

I did the regimen as directed but I did steps 3-5 differently this time.

Step 3, left on hair for about 15 minutes and steamed another 15 and rinsed.

Step 4, mixed my leave in (TN) with 1tsp BS, waited about a minute and rinsed. Even though this extra step lifted my cuticles, my hair still felt very soft after rinsing. Applied leave in again and slid the foam off then soaked my hair with water.

Step 5, even though I have a very tiny TWA, I was still able to smooth and rake the gel thru my curls.

My hair look amazing while wet with product and nice w/o!

Does Anyone know if gray hair is more resistant to the treatment? My patch is working my last nerve.

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[faithVA]

I did the regimen as directed but I did steps 3-5 differently this time.

Step 3, left on hair for about 15 minutes and steamed another 15 and rinsed.

Step 4, mixed my leave in (TN) with 1tsp BS, waited about a minute and rinsed. Even though this ectra step lifted my cuticles, my hair still felt very soft after rinsing. Applied leave in again and slid the foam off then soaked my hair with water.

Step 5, even though I have a very tiny TWA, I was still able to smooth and rake the gel thru my curls.

My hair look amazing while wet with product and nice w/o!

Does Anyone know if gray hair is more resistant to the treatment? My patch is working my last nerve.

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Yes gray hair may not adapt to the treatment as easily as the rest of your hair. It tends to be drier and more brittle. It also tends to get SSKs more often than the rest of my hair.

 

[KiWiStyle]

Yes gray hair may not adapt to the treatment as easily as the rest of your hair. It tends to be drier and more brittle. It also tends to get SSKs more often than the rest of my hair.

Do you know if it'll ever reach mh?

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[faithVA]

Do you know if it'll ever reach mh?

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I don't know. You will reach max hydration before I will so I will be asking you in about a month

 

[KiWiStyle]

I don't know. You will reach max hydration before I will so I will be asking you in about a month

We'll see. I have 30 years of chemical use to recooperate from.

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[msbettyboop]

What's the ph level of your clay mixes?

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[faithVA]

We'll see. I have 30 years of chemical use to recooperate from.

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It doesn't take that long to detox the scalp so you should be good. You don't have any hair to detox and you are starting fresh. It will go much faster than you think.

 

[faithVA]

What's the ph level of your clay mixes?

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The last time I measured it was between 6.5 and 7. I couldn't test it last week because my mix was too thick. Without the ACV I think it was between 8 and 8.5.

Have you tested yours yet?

 

[msbettyboop]

The last time I measured it was between 6.5 and 7. I couldn't test it last week because my mix was too thick. Without the ACV I think it was between 8 and 8.5. Have you tested yours yet?

It was an 8 without ACV. This was bentonite clay. Is that the right level for it to be at

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[faithVA]

It was an 8 without ACV. This was bentonite clay. Is that the right level for it to be at

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This is just my opinion but I think the clay should be equal to or lower in ph than the previous step which for most of us in the conditioning step. If your conditioning step is a 7, you don't want to then raise the ph of the hair again. Keeping the ph the same is fine and bringing it down a bit is even better.

If you are high porosity I think its definitely better to bring the ph of the clay down.

After the conditioning step, the ph should be equal to or less than the previous step until it reaches the ph of 5 at the gel step.


As a low porosity head, my hair does better when I bring the clay ph down a bit. Otherwise my hair just poofs and does not define.

 

[KiWiStyle]

This is just my opinion but I think the clay should be equal to or lower in ph than the previous step which for most of us in the conditioning step. If your conditioning step is a 7, you don't want to then raise the ph of the hair again. Keeping the ph the same is fine and bringing it down a bit is even better.

If you are high porosity I think its definitely better to bring the ph of the clay down.

After the conditioning step, the ph should be equal to or less than the previous step until it reaches the ph of 5 at the gel step.

As a low porosity head, my hair does better when I bring the clay ph down a bit. Otherwise my hair just poofs and does not define.

I think pinkcube approved danabnaturals shortened version where she used BS mixed in conditioner just before step 4. I get what you're saying though because Audrey Sivasothy says the same thing in her new book in that your pH values should gradually decrease as you finish to styling.

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