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Cattypus1 said:
Three things...
1. I finally figured out how to shingle my hair.
2. I have returned 4 of the 5 packages of Rhassoul I purchased in July. I kept the one I opened but I'm going to toss what's left of it. No explanation as to the differences between that and an earlier batch.
3. Thanks to MHM I should be APL by October. I can pull my hair into a ponytail but the top struggles to get over my "hook". LOL. It's not wearable but I can do it any that's progress! I'm gonna scrape the ugly clay off the top of my good clay(see the earlier pic) and toss it, I wonder if my plants might like a little Rhassoul in their lives. I'm gonna do a full MHM this weekend.
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That's awesome! I'm hoping to be neck length by 12/31.

I opened my new clay and poured it with my older clay. The first bag was the same but the second on was darker. I freaked out and scraped most of it out and mixed the rest. Is this how your bad clay looked?
 

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Cattypus1 said:
You mean fuzz, don't you. It's only curled as long as it's wet, as soon as it dries I'm a cotton ball!
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Let me clarify. My hair is a mass of cotton/wool when wet! KCCC is my life source...I applied my gel and let it dry the day before I left for vacation. Without it, my vacation hair would been hell hair! I didn't have to stand under the shower and water rinse then reapply my gel the entire time.
 
As of today I have a pretty consistent clay wash recipe that my hair loves! No waste and no more adding to it because I ran out...I use:
3/4 cups water
3 tbsp Rhassoul clay
1.5 tbsp Bentonite clay
1/4 cups AVJ
10 drops Eucalyptus EO

So far, my hair is better with each wash and I'm feeling more coils at the roots when rinsing the clay out.

I'm no longer looking for or expecting super defined hair. I'll continue to hydrate inside and out and let the pieces fall as they may. There are good and bad hair days but I'm loving this journey and can't wait to see my big fro next year!
 
KiWiStyle said:
That's awesome! I'm hoping to be neck length by 12/31.

I opened my new clay and poured it with my older clay. The first bag was the same but the second on was darker. I freaked out and scraped most of it out and mixed the rest. Is this how your bad clay looked?
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OMG! I can't tell exactly from the pic but I think mine was even darker but maybe it was the lighting. Either way, I won't use what I have left, at least not on my hair. Maybe my plants will like it.
 
Cattypus1 said:
OMG! I can't tell exactly from the pic but I think mine was even darker but maybe it was the lighting. Either way, I won't use what I have left, at least not on my hair. Maybe my plants will like it.
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I downloaded your pic and compared them side by side. Yours is definitely much darker than mine so I think I should be fine. Mine looks to be a normal color variance with a natural product.
 
Cattypus1 said:
I just want to show my shingle curls...I'm very proud of them today. I actually look like I meant to do something with this crazy hair of mine...posting pics is crazy from my phone, sorry for the double.
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You better quit playing, your coils are Gorgeous! I think when my hair acts like it has some sense, it'll look similar to yours...I HOPE!!
 
I'm going to try this regimen, since I (think) I've decided to go ahead and cut my relaxed ends. I'm going to follow Pinkcube's method exactly, and I'm starting with the Cherry Lola Caramel Treatment. However, there are a couple of things that have me hesitant:

1) The approved product list is extremely limited, IMO. And the ones that are listed, I cannot imagine them working for my hair. I'm going to try using the KCKT as my leave in, the Trader Joe's Tea tree as my co wash, or maybe the Tressemme volume conditioner, since it's a larger quantity... Or both. But these are products I would never normally use, so I'm a bit scared about that.

2) I'll also be needing a good DC.... I know this method claims that all conditioner types are interchangeable, but that goes against everything I believe in this world. :lol: I really want to be a purist about this though (at least for the first 7 days), so if I can't find an approved DC locally, I'll be sucking it up and using a leave-in or rinse out as a DC... :cry2:

Other than that I'm excited about starting this regimen, and the idea of having root to tip curl definition. I am still a bit skeptical about that, because I always considered the cottony/poofiness to be apart of my texture, and that is one of the reasons I returned to relaxers.

Here are some pics of my hair a little over a year ago right before I relaxed:

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(Wet with leave-in)

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(Wet with leave-in)

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(Dry with leave-in and KCCC. Completely poofy and frizzy, with defined ringlets on the very tips. :rolleyes:)

I may post some pics after I chop. I'm heading out now to get my supplies.
 
Does anyone still use a comb and brush to detangle? Did you stop immediately when you began this regimen? See... I'm coming out a sew in and imma need my Denman tonight. :look: Are brushes against the rules, or just frowned upon?
 
Theresamonet said:
I'm going to try this regimen, since I (think) I've decided to go ahead and cut my relaxed ends. I'm going to follow Pinkcube's method exactly, and I'm starting with the Cherry Lola Caramel Treatment. However, there are a couple of things that have me hesitant:

1) The approved product list is extremely limited, IMO. And the ones that are listed, I cannot imagine them working for my hair. I'm going to try using the KCKT as my leave in, the Trader Joe's Tea tree as my co wash, or maybe the Tressemme volume conditioner, since it's a larger quantity... Or both. But these are products I would never normally use, so I'm a bit scared about that.

2) I'll also be needing a good DC.... I know this method claims that all conditioner types are interchangeable, but that goes against everything I believe in this world. :lol: I really want to be a purist about this though (at least for the first 7 days), so if I can't find an approved DC locally, I'll be sucking it up and using a leave-in or rinse out as a DC... :cry2:

Other than that I'm excited about starting this regimen, and the idea of having root to tip curl definition. I am still a bit skeptical about that, because I always considered the cottony/poofiness to be apart of my texture, and that is one of the reasons I returned to relaxers.

Here are some pics of my hair a little over a year ago right before I relaxed:

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(Wet with leave-in)

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(Wet with leave-in)

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(Dry with leave-in and KCCC. Completely poofy and frizzy, with defined ringlets on the very tips. :rolleyes:)

I may post some pics after I chop. I'm heading out now to get my supplies.
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Try the Tresemme Undone and leave the DC until after your 7 days. Your hair will be fine during that time. Based on your before pics I think you will have good results.
 
2nd clay wash went so much better!! Taking the time to do a complete detangle was worth it. I added the olive oil to my clay mix and everything went very smoothly, with a bit of clay left over. My hair really likes the KCCC so far.... Pic- left is after the wash w/o products, right is with KCCC
 

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Theresamonet said:
I'm going to try this regimen, since I (think) I've decided to go ahead and cut my relaxed ends. I'm going to follow Pinkcube's method exactly, and I'm starting with the Cherry Lola Caramel Treatment. However, there are a couple of things that have me hesitant:

1) The approved product list is extremely limited, IMO. And the ones that are listed, I cannot imagine them working for my hair. I'm going to try using the KCKT as my leave in, the Trader Joe's Tea tree as my co wash, or maybe the Tressemme volume conditioner, since it's a larger quantity... Or both. But these are products I would never normally use, so I'm a bit scared about that.

2) I'll also be needing a good DC.... I know this method claims that all conditioner types are interchangeable, but that goes against everything I believe in this world. :lol: I really want to be a purist about this though (at least for the first 7 days), so if I can't find an approved DC locally, I'll be sucking it up and using a leave-in or rinse out as a DC... :cry2:

Other than that I'm excited about starting this regimen, and the idea of having root to tip curl definition. I am still a bit skeptical about that, because I always considered the cottony/poofiness to be apart of my texture, and that is one of the reasons I returned to relaxers.

Here are some pics of my hair a little over a year ago right before I relaxed:

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(Wet with leave-in)

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(Wet with leave-in)

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(Dry with leave-in and KCCC. Completely poofy and frizzy, with defined ringlets on the very tips. :rolleyes:)

I may post some pics after I chop. I'm heading out now to get my supplies.
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What the heck are you chopping!? Your curls are so pretty!
 
Theresamonet said:
Does anyone still use a comb and brush to detangle? Did you stop immediately when you began this regimen? See... I'm coming out a sew in and imma need my Denman tonight. :look: Are brushes against the rules, or just frowned upon?
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@Theresamonet You hair looks luscious:lick: (everyone's hair is so thick!:bah:) I stopped immediately when I began this regimen in September last year. I also stopped using heat, so everything just went hand in hand and seemed easier. I would never have believed that I find it easier to detangle natural hair with my fingers than any utensil, but this regimen has proven otherwise.
 
faithVA said:
Try the Tresemme Undone and leave the DC until after your 7 days. Your hair will be fine during that time. Based on your before pics I think you will have good results.
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I got the Tresemme Undone like you suggested. Didn't even see the Volume conditioner in any store. But the Undone is more like something I would get if I were looking for a cheapie rinse. I've never used a volumizing conditioner in my life. It actually sounds counter to what we're trying to do here. Well, the Undone has none of the unapproved ingredients, so I feel I'm still safely within the guidelines?

I also got the Trader Joe's conditioner and the KCKT.


Cattypus1 said:
What the heck are you chopping!? Your curls are so pretty!
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AbsyBlvd said:
@Theresamonet You hair looks luscious:lick: (everyone's hair is so thick!:bah:) I stopped immediately when I began this regimen in September last year. I also stopped using heat, so everything just went hand in hand and seemed easier. I would never have believed that I find it easier to detangle natural hair with my fingers than any utensil, but this regimen has proven otherwise.
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Thank you both! But I relaxed my hair after those pics were taken. I've been transitioning since May 2014.

@AbsyBlvd I have to take down this weave prior to starting the regimen, and I'll be doing whatever necessary. But starting from the Cherry Lola treatment on, I'll be following the regimen exactly, with no combing/brushing... At least for the first 7 days.
 
Theresamonet said:
I got the Tresemme Undone like you suggested. Didn't even see the Volume conditioner in any store. But the Undone is more like something I would get if I were looking for a cheapie rinse. I've never used a volumizing conditioner in my life. It actually sounds counter to what we're trying to do here. Well, the Undone has none of the unapproved ingredients, so I feel I'm still safely within the guidelines?

I also got the Trader Joe's conditioner and the KCKT.





Thank you both! But I relaxed my hair after those pics were taken. I've been transitioning since May 2014.

@AbsyBlvd I have to take down this weave prior to starting the regimen, and I'll be doing whatever necessary. But starting from the Cherry Lola treatment on, I'll be following the regimen exactly, with no combing/brushing... At least for the first 7 days.
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The Undone is fine. It didn't exist when PinkeCube first created the list and she no longer updates the list. But it meets all of the requirements.
 
Hi guys. To answer some questions people asked:
1) I now use diluted aloe Vera juice plus water or avj, water plus kckt as a leave in. All this while I thought I was low porosity but it's looking like I am high porosity. So if things are not working for you, try to tweak per high porosity version. My hair also likes protein. This is all weird cos I have never even flat ironed my hair since being natural for these many yrs. And only started using heat (diffusing) with this regimen. Also, no color. So not sure why my hair acts high po.

2) I thought I was getting increased clumping with finger detangling, but some of those clumps ended up being matted and webbed and inseparable. So to the person that asked, I use my Hercules sageman seamless comb once a week.

3) @Cattypus1 was there a particular you tuber whose shingling method you emulated? I discovered my hair tangled less with shingling and was more separated but it took like 1hr to just do the shingling if not more, so still looking to see what I can learn and improve. Any tips?

4) been looking for a styler plus leave in alternative to kckt and kccc, been researching hair rules curly whip, eden body works curl defining cream, jane carter curl defining cream. Anyone used these?

Ps I blog about my experience at www.livingcoily.wordpress.com if you want to see my texture etc.
Thanks.
 
@astralpeck I couldn't find anyone with hair like mine. I'm a 4-something and my hair shrinks like crazy. The key for me was simple-detangling and the missing piece was keeping it detangled before I start shingling. I detangle with conditioner and then plait it up. Rinse in plaits and shingle each section. I've even started loosely banding the sections as they dry so that I retain some length.
 
KiWiStyle said:
Is there anyone doing the original mhm from time to time? I'm considering doing the Cherry Lola treatment and original mhm for seven consecutive days, any thoughts on this? @faithVA, your thoughts?
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I feel like I do this from time to time, when I use conditioner (mainly for my protein treatments) but I realise now that I haven't mixed baking soda into my conditioner for quite some time. I don't have anything against it. My hair just seemed to be behaving well without it. As I am back to the bald spot regimen (been going at it for 2 weeks), I might try it again on my wash tomorrow.
 
So 3/4 of the way through detangling my 2 week old canerows, I decided I will wash my hair tomorrow (instead of tonight). Now procrastination has set in and I have 2 canerows and a do-do plait left. I'm not even thoroughly detangling, just releasing some tangles and sheds.

I will not be leaving the Aubrey Organics conditioners in my hair. It made my hair feel weird and almost had me dreading in some spots. After my little detour, I'll be back to diluted KCKT as my leave-in.
 
Is a cool hair-dryer with a diffuser a no-no? I'm having trouble with the top and front of my head staying wet so long & making my scalp itch. I had this issue even as a kid with a lot less hair, wet hair equaled itchy scalp. I followed the technique Protective Princess used to show how she gets her hair to dry faster but..... :look:

Random thoughts: --I'm going to try a throat coat type tea with my clay since the ingredients are the same as ladies here have said they use and I can't do any big purchases for a while.-- There's a Devacurl salon near my job and I'm debating going just for a cut..... really nervous about it but some of my ends are so tangly even though I haven't noticed any ssk or splits. I know @AbsyBlvd and @fluffyforever cut their own, ringlet by ringlet but the thought is so overwhelming.--- What kinds of commercial protein treatments are working for people? My hair is high density, low po 4b/c.

Pic is today's hair. Two puff/pineapples. I went to hang out with my bestie for the first time since starting and her reaction was "OMG THOSE TINY CURLS!!" lol
 

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MeaWea said:
Is a cool hair-dryer with a diffuser a no-no? I'm having trouble with the top and front of my head staying wet so long & making my scalp itch. I had this issue even as a kid with a lot less hair, wet hair equaled itchy scalp. I followed the technique Protective Princess used to show how she gets her hair to dry faster but..... :look:

Random thoughts: --I'm going to try a throat coat type tea with my clay since the ingredients are the same as ladies here have said they use and I can't do any big purchases for a while.-- There's a Devacurl salon near my job and I'm debating going just for a cut..... really nervous about it but some of my ends are so tangly even though I haven't noticed any ssk or splits. I know @AbsyBlvd and @fluffyforever cut their own, ringlet by ringlet but the thought is so overwhelming.--- What kinds of commercial protein treatments are working for people? My hair is high density, low po 4b/c.

Pic is today's hair. Two puff/pineapples. I went to hang out with my bestie for the first time since starting and her reaction was "OMG THOSE TINY CURLS!!" lol
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@MeaWea Your hair looks great. I haven't used a blow drier on my hair since I started this regimen. I haven't got a diffuser attachment so I can't help with how it will effect your hair with this regimen.

I sort of fell into that coil-by-coil dusting. Believe half way through, I wondered what I'd started:lol: but I am a perfectionist so I had to thoroughly finish the job. My hair seems to like keratin. Thanks to a review/ recommendation from @pelohello, I use Mill Creek Botanicals Jojoba conditioner. My hair is medium density, 4c/b.
 
I thought I remembered my natural hair being normal to normal-high porosity, but I just did the water test, and not only are the strands not sinking at all (after 15+ minutes), it looks like they're trying to climb back out the glass. :look: What that mean? lol
 
Theresamonet said:
I thought I remembered my natural hair being normal to normal-high porosity, but I just did the water test, and not only are the strands not sinking at all (after 15+ minutes), it looks like they're trying to climb back out the glass. :look: What that mean? lol
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It doesn't necessarily mean anything. The water glass test is really not that accurate. But because it's been recommended so much it's hard to get it to die out. It's better to see if your hair has multiple characteristics of one type of porosity versus relying on the water test.
 
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