Marriage and Men / Marriage and Women

[BeautifulFlower]

http://www.marshillchurch.org/media/trial/marriage-and-men

http://www.marshillchurch.org/media/trial/marriage-and-women

Listen to Marriage and Men first...

 

[momi]

I have heard these! Mark Driscoll knows how to bring it doesn't he???

 

[inthepink]

I forgot to tell you that I had been listening to him. I had not heard these! I will have to get them on my ipod! Thank you!

 

[BeautifulFlower]

I have heard these! Mark Driscoll knows how to bring it doesn't he???

I felt convicted and he was talking to the men. I need to get over certains and really look at what a good husband is all about.

I used to date men that were not "safe". After his sermon, I've re-evaluated what I look for in a good husband.

 

[BeautifulFlower]

I forgot to tell you that I had been listening to him. I had not heard these! I will have to get them on my ipod! Thank you!

Good, good. Mark's ministry has changed me alot. I thank God for his ministry.
I should start downloading the podcast too.

Oh yeah, and I am going to get those books he's talking about:

Recovering Biblical Manhood and Womanhood: A Response to Evangelical Feminism

God, Marriage, and Family: Rebuilding the Biblical Foundation - recommends single to read this so you dont marry a loser

 

[PinkPebbles]

I'm listening right now and he is speaking the truth! Right on time...thanks for sharing!

 

[momi]

bumpin....

 

[Evolving78]

thank you so much OP for posting this. this was truly a blessing. the sermon for the men was awesome. it is the second best, hard hitting sermon i have heard. i put it up there with "No More Sheets"! i love sermons like that. i don't do dainty! lol!

 

[inthepink]

Thanks for bumping b/c I had not yet listened. Listening now!

 

[PinkPebbles]

thank you so much OP for posting this. this was truly a blessing. the sermon for the men was awesome. it is the second best, hard hitting sermon i have heard. i put it up there with "No More Sheets"! i love sermons like that. i don't do dainty! lol!

I agree! Every time I see this thread I smile :blush3:.

There are so many sermons on what women need to do and how to conduct ourselves as a godly woman. Yet, you rarely hear sermons about how men need to take responsibility and be held accountable for their actions. I applaud this pastor for speaking the truth and sounding the alarm for men of God to wake up and act like the godly man God has called him to become.

 

[inthepink]

I agree! Every time I see this thread I smile :blush3:.

There are so many sermons on what women need to do and how to conduct ourselves as a godly woman. Yet, you rarely hear sermons about how men need to take responsibility and be held accountable for their actions. I applaud this pastor for speaking the truth and sounding the alarm for men of God to wake up and act like the godly man God has called him to become.

Problem is...how many single Christian men are in church to hear these types of sermons? They surely need to hear it. I think I did hear that this particular church has many singles including men though!

 

[PinkPebbles]

Problem is...how many single Christian men are in church to hear these types of sermons? They surely need to hear it. I think I did hear that this particular church has many singles including men though!

True! Although, there are not many I'm glad a pastor is addressing the issues. Hopefully, others will follow suit and the "word" will travel. I already forwarded the link to my male single cousins.

 

[Evolving78]

i forwarded this to a couple of men in my family as well and i am going to send it to more if i can. none of these men are in church either.

 

[inthepink]

That's a really smart idea - to send this on.

I am going to send these to my sisters.

 

[TrustMeLove]

Whoaaa... His prayer came out all bars..no pulled punches. Listening now. I think I may like this....I am also going to order those Amazon books if this Sermon is sound.

 

[TrustMeLove]

He just spoke about his tone. ANd how his tone is specifically for the men. I was thinking wow he is pretty rough...which could be a ministering style...that some of us need to hear certain messages in..But, I was like wow he is about to get on the women something fierce than.

However, since he is speaking about this tone being specifically for the men..that made me go Ah Ha! I get it.

I think I like this guy.

 

[TrustMeLove]

Whoaa! I'm at the end of the marriage and men and he just WENT OFF! WENT OFF!

He said who the H3LL DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?

My eyes got super big like OMG. I don't ever say OMG..it's always OMGoodness...but man he was not playing. It was serious what he was talking about, but I've never seen that type of anger come from the pulpit.

We need more Pastors to get down like this..stop the using the gloves and get real.

I am going to watch Marriage and Women and take mine too...I just pray the Lord gives me a open and humble spirit to receive what thus saith the Lord to me as a single woman and future wife to the man of his choice someday.

 

[BeautifulFlower]

He's not as rough on the women but just as real.

I LOVE MARK DRISCOLL. You will see how he loves his wife and children. It gives me encouragement that I'll have something like that one day.

 

[BeautifulFlower]

He just spoke about his tone. ANd how his tone is specifically for the men. I was thinking wow he is pretty rough...which could be a ministering style...that some of us need to hear certain messages in..But, I was like wow he is about to get on the women something fierce than.

However, since he is speaking about this tone being specifically for the men..that made me go Ah Ha! I get it.

I think I like this guy.

 

[TrustMeLove]

I keep seeing John and Kate plus 8 on all the tabloids. And all this talk about their marriage. Well, I just saw the season premier and GOODNESS!

They were hinting towards divorce. You can tell John feels emasculated. He and she pretty much said this.. He loves taking care of his children and loves his children, but he says that he has worked all his life to provide and now he does none of that. His wife is now the breadwinner and he is the care taker.

I kept thinking back to Mark's sermon like..wow..It seems like stuff is going down hill because it isn't in God's plan on the roles of a man and a woman in a relationship. And it isn't falling into the exception to the rule category.

Kate looks happy taking over and being the breadwinner. Pastor Mark spoke about us women being cursed with wanting to rule over our husbands and pretty much do their curse. And men being weak and sitting by allowing us to take over. I just saw this so much in what was happening with them...

John looks horrible....smh

I pray they get some counseling and get things worked out. The love is still their for each other and their family unit. They just have some things seriously backwards right now.

NOW! I want to say I don't know what is REALLY going on in their lives. But, this is what I perceived...just as if this was a soap opera you can make you own assumptions. The one thing I do knowis that they NEED prayer.

 

[aribell]

Does it seem to anyone that he focused a lot on the extremes with the men? It was a needed message, I just left wondering "Are those types the only ones we as women have to look out for?"

 

[TrustMeLove]

I sent this to a couple people and alot of them couldn't listen to it because of his tone. I told them that the tone was going to be harsh, but just listen to the msg. The tone was for the men and not the women.

This msg can really bless folks. I hope they give it another shot. I implored them to give it a second listen...but to listen to the women's first (they didn't even listen to the women's after they heard the mens) and than go to the men's.

 

[momi]

I sent this to a couple people and alot of them couldn't listen to it because of his tone. I told them that the tone was going to be harsh, but just listen to the msg. The tone was for the men and not the women.

This msg can really bless folks. I hope they give it another shot. I implored them to give it a second listen...but to listen to the women's first (they didn't even listen to the women's after they heard the mens) and than go to the men's.

Are you kidding me? Do they read the bible?

Seriously not trying to be facetious...

 

[momi]

I sent this to a couple people and alot of them couldn't listen to it because of his tone. I told them that the tone was going to be harsh, but just listen to the msg. The tone was for the men and not the women.

This msg can really bless folks. I hope they give it another shot. I implored them to give it a second listen...but to listen to the women's first (they didn't even listen to the women's after they heard the mens) and than go to the men's.

If they cant take Mark then Voddie Bauchman will make them cry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYvJ7UE8FEc&feature=related

 

[neenzmj]

My husband and I listened to it together. We absolutely loved it! It inspired my husband to begin speaking to the men at our church concerning their role as men and husbands as well as looking at his self to make sure he was being all that he should be as the leader in our home.

If they cant take Mark then Voddie Bauchman will make them cry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYvJ7UE8FEc&feature=related

 

[Bunny77]

Okay, I just listened to Marriage and Men.

Wow. GREAT message!

Men need to hear from men. And men do respond to challenges from other men, so Mark's tone was needed.

Off to hear the Women one!

 

[PinkPebbles]

Okay, I just listened to Marriage and Men.

Wow. GREAT message!

Men need to hear from men. And men do respond to challenges from other men, so Mark's tone was needed.

Off to hear the Women one!

ITA!!!

 

[TrustMeLove]

Are you kidding me? Do they read the bible?

Seriously not trying to be facetious...

Nope. This person is actually one of my best Christian friends and they definitely read the bible.

I think the delivery is what caught them off guard. Folks have become use to receiving the world on a soft platter with cookies. So to see this man of God (and Pastor Mark and I don't agree on a few things scripturally, but I still recognize him as a man of God) coming with such a powerful and not so sweet delivery like they are use to is guaranteed to be off settting.

I just encouraged them to listen to the women's first. I think that is what was scary..because if you have never heard anything from him before you would think all of his msgs were harsh and without tact. But, once you hear another one of his msgs you see that the marriage and mens msg had ALOT of tact and so do his other ones. Tact was the man reason he delievered that msg in such a fashion.

 

[TrustMeLove]

If they cant take Mark then Voddie Bauchman will make them cry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYvJ7UE8FEc&feature=related

At first I was going to cut this video short. But, I decided to keep listening. He makes some excellent points. Amening throughout the video and I have moved on to part 3.

I'm not in agreement with some of his meek and quiet spirit doctrine. Maybe I just don't get what he is trying to say, but for me it screamed BONDAGE!

 

[TrustMeLove]

If they cant take Mark then Voddie Bauchman will make them cry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYvJ7UE8FEc&feature=related

Whew he does have a different philosphy. I don't agree with him on ALOT of things. His message screams bondage to me...bondage with a cupcake.

Negative.