Liz Muller has gorgeous hair!

I agree, her hair is gorgeous. There is a member here whose hair looks exactly like that. I think her screen name is FlowerHair.
 
Wow, her hair is huge. I love big hair. She had us fooled with that protective style, lol. Her tutorials are very helpful.
 
I agree. It is lovely but I went to her for a while and absolutely could not recommend her as a stylist. She doesn't have even the most basic respect for the client. To illustrate I'd be sitting in the salon chair and shed be loudly yelling "Girl this hair is paper thin. All dry and breakin off! What am I gonna do with this?!" Granted my hair is on the fine side but you don't embarrass the client and damage their personal esteem all to promote your own work by spinning the client around in the chair at the end and telling them how much better that crap looks now that you've "fixed" it. If you want to comment on the fact that you did good work by all means go ahead and do so but don't try and bring the client down so you can bring yourself up. It's unprofessional and it's rude.

Even worse is the fact the she's not anywhere near as knowledgable as she makes herself out to be in the videos. I told her not to use a no-lye relaxer in my hair. She did so anyway and when I asked her about it she continued to stubbornly insist against all sensible evidence that it was a lye relaxer- stubbornly and unflinchingly. I pulled up affirms website and read to her directly from it that the active ingredient in the relaxer she uses is guanidine hydroxide which is considered no-lye. Told her that only relaxers with sodium hydroxide in them (the scientific name for lye) are considered lye relaxers. At this point she begins to insist that all relaxers really are the same and that the active ingredient is derived from lye so it makes no difference anyway. Ladies you know this mess ain't true! Yet when I suggested I bring the lye version of affirm to her and have her apply it she stubbornly insisted that it would be too strong. If it's all the same why the problem? What a liar.

It all boils down to one thing. Either she's a liar who has so little respect for the client that she would trick them into using a product against their wishes or she doesn't have the even the most basic knowledge of the science and chemistry of a relaxer. I think it's both. Either way Liz Muller of Liz's Hair Design is a very poor choice for a stylist. Stubborn, classless and unwilling to learn. I simply cannot recommend her. She's also extremely pricey for someone who doesn't give her clients the minimal in respect. $120 for a relaxer from someone who's going to try to degrade your hair while you're in the chair and who doesn't even understand the most basic difference between a lye and no-lye relaxer. Ladies go elsewhere!

She would not even answer questions about my hair. Everytime I'd ask her something about a change in relaxer, going natural etc. Anything her response although I'd already been going to her for monthes would be well I cant do anything for you baby. People wanna see results but I cant do anything for you unless you come every week and let me set it, press out the roots when it's growing out etc. In other words. She would offer no advice on my hair unless I could pay $40 to see her for a wash and set every single week. Now I intimated to her that Im just out of school and didnt have money for this yet everytime Id get in her chair shed continue to indirectly push this idea of how i need to come every week. Very obnoxious and classless.

This lady looks good on paper but is an absolute clown in person. Very poor attitude. Only after the money. Has a lot to learn about running a professional business.
 
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Wow at your post Tiger! I would have been so upset. It's so ironic because she comes off as pretty knowledgeable in her videos.

And she should be ashamed of herself trying to say that lye and no lye are the same. Good stylists are few and far between.

There are days where I really would like a professional blow dry/flat iron or rollerset, but I just cannot bring myself back to the salon.
 
She really is a shameless self promoter and very, very stubborn. I mayve even forgiven the fact that she used the wrong relaxer in my hair for almost a yea rwhile charging $120 a pop but her attitude when I asked her about it was jsut piss poor. I'm literally reading to her from the manufacturers website and her response literally is "You're wrong. That IS a lye relaxer."

Just plain ridiculous. Stank attitude and very insulting. She should have been humble enough to admit the wrong and use something else but she wasn't.

I guess this shouldn't surprise me. Humility is a function of class which she clearly has none of.
 
W.O.W!!!
I guess looks can be deceiving huh? I've never wouldn't gather all of that from the way she presents herself on the YT videos
I'm sorry you had such a bad experience with her Tiger....but thanks for the head's up chick!
 
I also went to liz a year or two ago and didnt have the best experience. She pretty much critiqued my hair and then when i mentioned i wanted to go natural and transition she said all my hair would break off, she was also too rough handed for my taste.the one good thing about her is she trims veryyyyy little, but she charges wayyyyy to much for her services. that was my one and only experience with her
 
She told me the exact same thing when I asked her about texlaxing or going natural. Privately I think she mayve been afraid of losing the business/money. She does charge too much. Especially considering how tiny the shop is. It's basically just one room with one salon chair, one sink and two dryers. You couldn't have more than 3 people in their comfortably.

True about her cutting very little. And I did like the fact that she styled hair with a Modern aesthetic and did a good careful relaxer application. Her roller setting left a lot to be desired though. She puts hair so loosely on the roller that it kinda puffs up afterward instead of drying flat and smooth.

But really the real deal breaker for me was her stubborn attitude about the difference between no-lye and lye. I honestly believe that in all likelihood she probably does know the difference. She just thought that product would be better on my hair and thought so little of my intelligence that she determined to apply it anyway thinking i'd never know the difference or call her on it. And that's pretty damn low. If you can't respect the clients wishes you've got nothing.
 
BrEE said:
I also went to liz a year or two ago and didnt have the best experience. She pretty much critiqued my hair and then when i mentioned i wanted to go natural and transition she said all my hair would break off, she was also too rough handed for my taste.the one good thing about her is she trims veryyyyy little, but she charges wayyyyy to much for her services. that was my one and only experience with her
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Bree where do you go now? Can you recommend a good stylist in the Miami area? Now that Liz and I are on the outs I'm looking for somewhere else to go. Please let me know girl. Thanks.

Also, did you go natural? How did it work out?
 
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I don't know her personally but I followed her yt vids and even followed her on FB and as if that wasn't enough, like a fool, I ran out to get the prods she suggested -- at the time I was following her, she highly promoted Alaparf by Semi di Lino and MoroccanOil. Very pricey prod lines in my opinion...now that I'm on LHCF, I can achieve the same results, if not better, with cheaper alternatives.
 
how funny! i was also going to her as well. last year and this year up to march... she had a very pleasant attitude with me and even encoouraged me to go natural because my hair was so damaged and short. she also is starting to get a huge natural clientele and has been to some hair shows...the thing that made me stop going was that with me having short hair... why is she charging me $70 one day for a relaxer as welll for a wash and set. also on another day she would maybe charge me $40 for a wash and set. i think because i had a pleasant attitude and was very ladi bak , she thought i would not care as much. in addition, my hair would not grow in her hands because she kept using the press comb and flat iron everytime i went to her salon. rarely would she use rollers on my hair because it would take to much time and she was overbooking her clients! i yold hert my hair was too sensitive for heat and my best growth was just rollersetting and wrapping... she rasrely did.... someone said she trimmed very little...but for me i noticed she was scissor happy with my hair. every growth i had she would always cut it back to a bob andstated its because she wanted to thicken it back up. if she was more willing to just rollersett my hair every week or every 2 weeks i probably would have kept her and started being more strict on her prices.. i just decided to stop relaxing my hair and hvae been braiding since march...my new growth is thick and i know my hair is growing so we will see.....

p.s. it's very hard to find good healthy hair salons who are into the health rather than the style or aesthetics of hair in miami. thats why the majority of women walk around with short thin damaged hair!:nono:
whenever i visit new york, ( which im hoping to relocate:yep: to soon) i see many variety of women with long natural or relaxed healthy hair... wow!
 
i gave up on hair dressers and have been doing my own hair ever since, i'm 9 months into my transition and just flat iron weekly. so far so good, but it would be nice to find a stylist once im fully natural.
 
Hey ladies! I know I've been gone for a while, I've been prepping for my wedding which is in 2 wks! Anyway, I just wanted to say that I adore Liz, and started going to her about a year ago to maintain my hair color for my wedding. She does my relaxers, trims, and color, when needed (so that's maybe every five months or so). I also talked to her about going natural after my wedding, and she's been nothing but helpful to me. Just last night, I was in her shop from 6:30-10:30pm, bc she set aside time for us to play with wedding hairstyles and she did some banging natural-looking highlights in the front of my hair for me.

Up to this morning, I got an email from her saying she'll be there for me at the hotel and all throughout the night of my reception and I can honestly say that she's really not charging me much. She said she's honored that I asked her to be part of my day. (She loved my fotki too. Lol.)

Part of a quote from her email:

"Remember I'm there for you and this is your day so feel free to bother me when that pretty little head needs any retouches."

All this to say that Liz is a sweetheart, and she's downright hilarious (she has me in tears from laughing so hard). We have similar personalities and maybe that's why we get along. This is just my personal experience with her. I finally found a hairdresser that listens to me and knows how to style my hair with a modern look. In the past, I've come home from different salons upset which is why I (and most of us) just stopped going, but in the past year, my fiance has definitely noticed that I'm much happier when I come home from her shop.

I've attached some hair pics of us playing around last night. Of course, the style will look much cleaner day of! :)

Again, this is just me. Love ya'll!

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