Korean BSS Topic Agains: Black-owned Entrepreneur Interviews

Razac is black family owned out of Newark.
Dudleys, of course...
Organic Root Stimulator WAS black owned by Gary Gardner, son of the founder of Softsheen Carson. Sold to Dabur, the amla oil folks. :nono:
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Now you know...Indians don't know NOTHIN' bout no perm. Black people had/have the opportunity to dominate the market, but we keep selling out! :whyme:
Africa's Best is owned by ORS. :look: Don't tell 'em I told you.

The question is WHY?? Something is up with that!
 
why do we sell out?? money talks bullsh*t walks. some folks will sell their mama for millions and you KNOW im not lying.
 
Here's my thing...we can barely come together on issues that go beyond hair. Hell we have Hasidic Jewish folks taking over our neighborhoods trying to push us out and make us conform to THEIR beliefs.....

Hell I remember trying to speak on this and everyone suddenly got deaf. I thought about making a video about avoiding Asian owned BSS stores but how the hell do they get into our neighborhoods in the first place?? Did we ever come around to see who was buying up what property?? And then did we decide SCREW THAT not in our neighborhood let's come together and have our own black owned something or another....

NO.

Don't get me started, this is one area that pisses me off to no extent and to get to the root of it all seems to be a special process.

We have a long....LONG ways to go...

But hell if we're all going to be gung ho about this dammit come strong or don't come at all.

You goin' waaaayyyyyyy to deep. Asians don't buy property. They rent. Preventing any racial demographic from entering any neighborhood is racial profiling. When black people start opening their businesses ON TIME and have the products on their menu EVERYDAY, they can have their own businesses successfully. No one is stopping anybody from setting up shop. The victim mentality is so played.
 
You goin' waaaayyyyyyy to deep. Asians don't buy property. They rent. Preventing any racial demographic from entering any neighborhood is racial profiling. When black people start opening their businesses ON TIME and have the products on their menu EVERYDAY, they can have their own businesses successfully. No one is stopping anybody from setting up shop. The victim mentality is so played.

I'm going deep cause that's what needs to be done.
 
You goin' waaaayyyyyyy to deep. Asians don't buy property. They rent. Preventing any racial demographic from entering any neighborhood is racial profiling. When black people start opening their businesses ON TIME and have the products on their menu EVERYDAY, they can have their own businesses successfully. No one is stopping anybody from setting up shop. The victim mentality is so played.

if you read the OP you can at least see why having products in stock is an uphill battle.

to the rest of it... :rolleyes:
 
Let me make this point real quick....

Have you ever been to the Chinese store and have them tell you they're out of rice?
Have you ever been to a soul food/ Jamaican restaurant and have them tell you they're out of collards or beef patties?
 
I hope I dont get pummelled for this one..... but :takecover:

I'm not into this race against that race. I'm all for supporting a group,.. ie,.. buying from black owned stores more often,.. but I'm not into intentionally trying to cripple a group of people because they are business savvy. The guy demanding back his products with a refund check is scared too, and isn't trying to jeapordize his family or his business for someone he doesn't know.

I'm not too educated on korean history, but I know that they've been through the struggle as well. To this day you see alot of korean and chinese immigrants working the city, riding people around on bikes in the freezing cold, walking around hairdresser shops selling socks, getting harrassed by highschool kids when they own food places, you see their kids working since their 12, I had one guy deliver TEN DOLLARS WORTH OF FOOD to my house during last years snow storm. He had to get out of his car a half block away and walk the rest to my house b/c my street was not cleared. Why? for 10 dollars?? nope. Because he knows that if he works hard he'll build a customer base and we'll keep coming back. Wasted gas today,... money in the bank tomorrow.

In general... those people are HUSTLERS!! and i give it to them. How about instead of an "us" against "them" attitude,... how about we rewind the clock and analyze how they got control of the hair industry in the first place. How about we empower our people to build businesses with go-hard attitudes instead of building excuses. How about we learn from some of their principles and make our own roads instead of "sneaking" onto the ones they already trampled out.

There are alot of people here and on youtube that has come up with some great formulas for moisturizers, sealers, curl butters,.. etc. Instead of waitng for a big corporation to write a check to help you start I wonder how many would bottle the stuff, fill up a back pack, take an initial hit and give some free samples to salons,... sell it to customers under the hairdryer at the salon (i know you've seen those koreans do that). I say black people in general need to stop waiting for a BIG BREAK and show some tenacity and work for as long as it takes to make it big,.. on their own.


If there is a list out there black owned hair supply stores... let me know... i wud love to check them out and judge them fairly.

If you are an at home Hair Product Chef... (of quality stuff). Let us know!! We'll buy if you have a humble introductory price or sample size.

In summary... Less talking... Less complaining,... Less "they won't help me":stop:... and more "I can do it all by myself... one day" :superbanana:
 
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yes, i do suppose we will never get anywhere if your own people believe you are lazy.

i much prefer the deeper analysis of structures and systems but it seems you guys like to just go with the same old same old. :yawn:
 
I hope I dont get pummelled for this one..... but :takecover:

I'm not into this race against that race. I'm all for supporting a group,.. ie,.. buying from black owned stores more often,.. but I'm not into intentionally trying to cripple a group of people because they are business savvy. The guy demanding back his products with a refund check is scared too, and isn't trying to jeapordize his family or his business for someone he doesn't know.

I'm not too educated on korean history, but I know that they've been through the struggle as well. To this day you see alot of korean and chinese immigrants working the city, riding people around on bikes in the freezing cold, walking around hairdresser shops selling socks, getting harrassed by highschool kids when they own food places, you see their kids working since their 12, I had one guy deliver TEN DOLLARS WORTH OF FOOD to my house during last years snow storm. He had to get out of his car a half block away and walk the rest to my house b/c my street was not cleared. Why? for 10 dollars?? nope. Because he knows that if he works hard he'll build a customer base and we'll keep coming back. Wasted gas today,... money in the bank tomorrow.

In general... those people are HUSTLERS!! and i give it to them. How about instead of an "us" against "them" attitude,... how about we rewind the clock and analyze how they got control of the hair industry in the first place. How about we empower our people to build businesses with go-hard attitudes instead of building excuses. How about we learn from some of their principles and make our own roads instead of "sneaking" onto the ones they already trampled out.

There are alot of people here and on youtube that has come up with some great formulas for moisturizers, sealers, curl butters,.. etc. Instead of waitng for a big corporation to write a check to help you start I wonder how many would bottle the stuff, fill up a back pack, take an initial hit and give some free samples to salons,... sell it to customers under the hairdryer at the salon (i know you've seen those koreans do that). I say black people in general need to stop waiting for a BIG BREAK and show some tenacity and work for as long as it takes to make it big,.. on their own.


If there is a list out there black owned hair supply stores... let me know... i wud love to check them out and judge them fairly.

If you are an at home Hair Product Chef... (of quality stuff). Let us know!! We'll buy if you have a humble introductory price or sample size.

In summary... Less talking... Less complaining,... Less "they won't help me":stop:... and more "I can do it all by myself... one day" :superbanana:

This comment gave me the Holy Ghost...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EaI0U1_IW4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pp4BA0-lYtU&NR=1

#BroFranklin :band:
 
yes, i do suppose we will never get anywhere if your own people believe you are lazy.

i much prefer the deeper analysis of structures and systems but it seems you guys like to just go with the same old same old. :yawn:

if you think little things you get little answers.

when you look into why things are they way they are, how did they start then stuff makes sense.

hell doing just that i learned things that pissed me off and riled me up to no end. but you know when you speak the blunt truth you either sound radical, like an angry black person or trying to live out your life as a Black Panther...

so i shut the hell up.

although you my darling tamz412 it seems like we'd have a good ole chat.
 
You want a list for black OWNED beauty supply stores? Ha! That list has about 10 names on it. We have been PUSHED out the market! You don't believe us call up a black owned beauty supply store yourself and ask them have they tried to get a foot in the asian owned supply chain and how did that work out for them.

I searched for the list of black owned beauty supply stores around the country that was on the BOBSA's website and it doesn't even exist anymore.
 
Let me make this point real quick....

Have you ever been to the Chinese store and have them tell you they're out of rice?
Have you ever been to a soul food/ Jamaican restaurant and have them tell you they're out of collards or beef patties?


I went to an Asian resturant just this weekend and wanted a dessert and they were out, so... your point is what?
 
I hope I dont get pummelled for this one..... but :takecover:

I'm not into this race against that race. I'm all for supporting a group,.. ie,.. buying from black owned stores more often,.. but I'm not into intentionally trying to cripple a group of people because they are business savvy. The guy demanding back his products with a refund check is scared too, and isn't trying to jeapordize his family or his business for someone he doesn't know.

I'm not too educated on korean history, but I know that they've been through the struggle as well. To this day you see alot of korean and chinese immigrants working the city, riding people around on bikes in the freezing cold, walking around hairdresser shops selling socks, getting harrassed by highschool kids when they own food places, you see their kids working since their 12, I had one guy deliver TEN DOLLARS WORTH OF FOOD to my house during last years snow storm. He had to get out of his car a half block away and walk the rest to my house b/c my street was not cleared. Why? for 10 dollars?? nope. Because he knows that if he works hard he'll build a customer base and we'll keep coming back. Wasted gas today,... money in the bank tomorrow.

In general... those people are HUSTLERS!! and i give it to them. How about instead of an "us" against "them" attitude,... how about we rewind the clock and analyze how they got control of the hair industry in the first place. How about we empower our people to build businesses with go-hard attitudes instead of building excuses. How about we learn from some of their principles and make our own roads instead of "sneaking" onto the ones they already trampled out.

There are alot of people here and on youtube that has come up with some great formulas for moisturizers, sealers, curl butters,.. etc. Instead of waitng for a big corporation to write a check to help you start I wonder how many would bottle the stuff, fill up a back pack, take an initial hit and give some free samples to salons,... sell it to customers under the hairdryer at the salon (i know you've seen those koreans do that). I say black people in general need to stop waiting for a BIG BREAK and show some tenacity and work for as long as it takes to make it big,.. on their own.


If there is a list out there black owned hair supply stores... let me know... i wud love to check them out and judge them fairly.

If you are an at home Hair Product Chef... (of quality stuff). Let us know!! We'll buy if you have a humble introductory price or sample size.

In summary... Less talking... Less complaining,... Less "they won't help me":stop:... and more "I can do it all by myself... one day" :superbanana:

I agree with parts of what you say and also respectfully disagree :lol: I agree that It shouldn't be a 'us' versus 'them' race thing.

...But at the same time it was made that way...BYou/we can't be blind enough to ignore when someone is cutting you out of a market for your own people and then profiting solely and completely off of it.

Blacks should be outraged at the level of economic retardation we are experiencing by putting money into a system that we can't expect return from.

I agree again that there should be more 'hustle' from our own, but at the same time, it's offensive that a group of non-black people try to monopolize a market for black people.

Also the poor treatment can't be ignored. :ohwell: If black women say that they are being treated rude by the very same people who are profiting from them, then...that's intolerable.
 
I hope I dont get pummelled for this one..... but :takecover:

I'm not into this race against that race. I'm all for supporting a group,.. ie,.. buying from black owned stores more often,.. but I'm not into intentionally trying to cripple a group of people because they are business savvy. The guy demanding back his products with a refund check is scared too, and isn't trying to jeapordize his family or his business for someone he doesn't know.

I'm not too educated on korean history, but I know that they've been through the struggle as well. To this day you see alot of korean and chinese immigrants working the city, riding people around on bikes in the freezing cold, walking around hairdresser shops selling socks, getting harrassed by highschool kids when they own food places, you see their kids working since their 12, I had one guy deliver TEN DOLLARS WORTH OF FOOD to my house during last years snow storm. He had to get out of his car a half block away and walk the rest to my house b/c my street was not cleared. Why? for 10 dollars?? nope. Because he knows that if he works hard he'll build a customer base and we'll keep coming back. Wasted gas today,... money in the bank tomorrow.

In general... those people are HUSTLERS!! and i give it to them. How about instead of an "us" against "them" attitude,... how about we rewind the clock and analyze how they got control of the hair industry in the first place. How about we empower our people to build businesses with go-hard attitudes instead of building excuses. How about we learn from some of their principles and make our own roads instead of "sneaking" onto the ones they already trampled out.

There are alot of people here and on youtube that has come up with some great formulas for moisturizers, sealers, curl butters,.. etc. Instead of waitng for a big corporation to write a check to help you start I wonder how many would bottle the stuff, fill up a back pack, take an initial hit and give some free samples to salons,... sell it to customers under the hairdryer at the salon (i know you've seen those koreans do that). I say black people in general need to stop waiting for a BIG BREAK and show some tenacity and work for as long as it takes to make it big,.. on their own.


If there is a list out there black owned hair supply stores... let me know... i wud love to check them out and judge them fairly.

If you are an at home Hair Product Chef... (of quality stuff). Let us know!! We'll buy if you have a humble introductory price or sample size.

In summary... Less talking... Less complaining,... Less "they won't help me":stop:... and more "I can do it all by myself... one day" :superbanana:

Unethical practices are not what I call business savy.
 
^^^^

i wanted to add about 50 more thanks but can only done one so it will have to suffice.

want to get outraged some more???

going to dig deeper.....excuse me.

what group runs a large control over the diamond districts??

now where do diamonds come from?? and who got killed for said diamonds??

you damn right im mad.


this type of stuff runs way deeper than just the bss.
 
I hope I dont get pummelled for this one..... but :takecover:

I'm not into this race against that race. I'm all for supporting a group,.. ie,.. buying from black owned stores more often,.. but I'm not into intentionally trying to cripple a group of people because they are business savvy. The guy demanding back his products with a refund check is scared too, and isn't trying to jeapordize his family or his business for someone he doesn't know.

I'm not too educated on korean history, but I know that they've been through the struggle as well. To this day you see alot of korean and chinese immigrants working the city, riding people around on bikes in the freezing cold, walking around hairdresser shops selling socks, getting harrassed by highschool kids when they own food places, you see their kids working since their 12, I had one guy deliver TEN DOLLARS WORTH OF FOOD to my house during last years snow storm. He had to get out of his car a half block away and walk the rest to my house b/c my street was not cleared. Why? for 10 dollars?? nope. Because he knows that if he works hard he'll build a customer base and we'll keep coming back. Wasted gas today,... money in the bank tomorrow.

In general... those people are HUSTLERS!! and i give it to them. How about instead of an "us" against "them" attitude,... how about we rewind the clock and analyze how they got control of the hair industry in the first place. How about we empower our people to build businesses with go-hard attitudes instead of building excuses. How about we learn from some of their principles and make our own roads instead of "sneaking" onto the ones they already trampled out.

There are alot of people here and on youtube that has come up with some great formulas for moisturizers, sealers, curl butters,.. etc. Instead of waitng for a big corporation to write a check to help you start I wonder how many would bottle the stuff, fill up a back pack, take an initial hit and give some free samples to salons,... sell it to customers under the hairdryer at the salon (i know you've seen those koreans do that). I say black people in general need to stop waiting for a BIG BREAK and show some tenacity and work for as long as it takes to make it big,.. on their own.


If there is a list out there black owned hair supply stores... let me know... i wud love to check them out and judge them fairly.

If you are an at home Hair Product Chef... (of quality stuff). Let us know!! We'll buy if you have a humble introductory price or sample size.

In summary... Less talking... Less complaining,... Less "they won't help me":stop:... and more "I can do it all by myself... one day" :superbanana:

Thats what we're talking about.
 
I agree with parts of what you say and also respectfully disagree :lol: I agree that It shouldn't be a 'us' versus 'them' race thing.

...But at the same time it was made that way...BYou/we can't be blind enough to ignore when someone is cutting you out of a market for your own people and then profiting solely and completely off of it.

Blacks should be outraged at the level of economic retardation we are experiencing by putting money into a system that we can't expect return from.

I agree again that there should be more 'hustle' from our own, but at the same time, it's offensive that a group of non-black people try to monopolize a market for black people.

Also the poor treatment can't be ignored. :ohwell: If black women say that they are being treated rude by the very same people who are profiting from them, then...that's intolerable.

We sold it to them! And still selling!
 
Let me just ask this real quick:

Why are we as a race of people so quick to high five other races and complain about ours?

I recently went to an Asian owned resturant (not the same one that was out of dessert) with a friend. This place sold everything under the sun; however, it looked like a dump to me.

This thread got me thinking- I know good and well if this resturant was black owned, folks would be complaining out the wazoo about how bummish it looked, but we don't blink an eye when other races set up shop in such a way.

We become so oblivious to what they lack and resort to comparing their 'success' to our non-success AND we look at them as our example of how we should be.
 
No, cheesecake tempura.

Tempura is a Japanese dish and not a staple in Chinese cuisine. The will never be out of rice. Black restaurants out of collards, beef patties, chana... What the f... How are you running a business and you don't have the basics?! It's 1pm and the mac n cheese not ready? Get it together! I'm NOT mad at Jews (Hasidic or Orthodox) or Asians or anybody else willing to work harder/smarter for the dollar than the black man. Barack Obama is President and we can't even run a simple BSS...disgraceful...
 
Tempura is a Japanese dish and not a staple in Chinese cuisine. The will never be out of rice. Black restaurants out of collards, beef patties, chana... What the f... How are you running a business and you don't have the basics?! It's 1pm and the mac n cheese not ready? Get it together! I'm NOT mad at Jews (Hasidic or Orthodox) or Asians or anybody else willing to work harder/smarter for the dollar than the black man. Barack Obama is President and we can't even run a simple BSS...disgraceful...

you are kidding right? no? :yawn:

:dead: i have to go to sleep. you are just so ridiculous and are missing the point.

eta: this will help
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As someone who dreams of opening up my own business, I believe that there are a lot of changes within the black hair care industry that may favor a swift change in the ownership of this market in years to come. All you have to do is pay attention to hair boards since we are usually way ahead of the curve on a lot of things.
 
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Blacks should be outraged at the level of economic retardation we are experiencing by putting money into a system that we can't expect return from.

right... so whats your point? i mean, are you disagreeing? we do think that it is not good to sell out to the huge companies.

we want to stop selling ourselves out.

The complain is that we're putting money in a system from which we cant expect a return. We HAD the return and gave it up! ORS was selling like hot cakes and still is! WE ARE THE ECONOMIC RETARDATION!! And he didn't just sell to Dabur and keep it movin', HE IS WORKING FORT THEM! Can't cry victim if we're masochists.
 
I am SO glad we have this thread tho....im reading all of your comments. My thing is....although we "sell out" and "we complain about us"...we HAVE to start SOMEWHERE:yep:

Somewhere in the dark there is a switch to turn on the lights....okay...so WHAT they did this and that and they have this and that....what are WE Black people gonna do about it?

I like that we are throwing ideas around...but we need to ACT on this ya'll!:yep:....we HAVE the power to do it right here with this forum...there is already ppl saying they will boycott with us...and they don't all think about hair the way WE think about hair...that says a lot to me:yep:

So what are the alternatives?
 
We sold it to them! And still selling!

True or not but I think it's important for you to know that at the end of the day whether you or I like it or not ( I do) we're on 'team black america' and the only group of people who will truly have your best interest at heart...are that same team.

Just thought you should know that :lol:
 
Tempura is a Japanese dish and not a staple in Chinese cuisine. The will never be out of rice. Black restaurants out of collards, beef patties, chana... What the f... How are you running a business and you don't have the basics?! It's 1pm and the mac n cheese not ready? Get it together! I'm NOT mad at Jews (Hasidic or Orthodox) or Asians or anybody else willing to work harder/smarter for the dollar than the black man. Barack Obama is President and we can't even run a simple BSS...disgraceful...


I stated 'an Asian resturant' in my initial response, not specific Asian resturants or cuisines.

My point is/was it don't matter what your staple foods are, lol. You are in a business, I was willing to pay for your service and you didn't have what I wanted when I wanted it which is your dessert.

Say that you did go to an Asian resturant and for some UFOish reason, they ran out of rice. Would you give them the side eye, get angry, and refuse to come back? Would you shout out to the rooftops to others not to patron this particular business? Doubt it. You'd probably just right it off as 'oh, the rice must be good here since you are out!' and change your desires accordingly.

We cut other races so much slack, but we expect people who look like us to have it all together.

Don't get me wrong. I think that a business should operate in it's capacity regarless of race, but I just notice a double standard, that's all.
 
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