Keshia Knight is a liar

[beana]

You ain't NEVAH lied!!!! People refused to believe that A. Keys wears a weave, and no one ever wants to believe that Halle's Berry's curly hair was a texturizer. This girl on another board was like, "Well I met Halle Berry and she was wearing her natural hair." And I'm like NO THAT WAS A TEXTURIZER!!!! When Jasika Nicole said she had a texturizer, people were shocked. When Karyn Parsons showed everyone her natural hair, everyone was shocked because they believed that was her real texture on Fresh Prince.

Wait let me say that again...You ain't NEVAH LIED!

@the bolded, i got into HEATED arguments with poeple over this.... they still refused to see the truth

Btw you dont see people asking how her hair changed from a coarse 3c to 3a/b ringlets I know her hair is professionally styled in the last two pics, but still.

 

[Kurlee]

why is skin tone and "regular" blackness being brought up?

it seems to me people are questioning her texture since she ISN'T some random person off the street. she was on television for most of her childhood with her NATURAL hair all out that looks VERY different than how it does now. hence the regular heat usage being brought up as an explanation.

that has nothing to do with if her being black, red, purple, or swirled.

seems like some people are trying to stir up drama where there isn't any...

Stirring up "drama" is childish. I'm calling the situation for what it is. Don't have time to pussy foot and act brand new, like I don't know what's up. The longer the faulty logic continues, the longer we have have to listen to these ignant ideas passed of as supposed "interest"/ observation.

It's either people acting brand new, "don't get it" or just don't want/ know how to be frank. Whatever it is, I speak from what I see/think and that doesn't have to mean wanting drama. It just means I feel no way about calling BS or expecting people to dig a little deeper.

 

[Kurlee]

@the bolded, i got into HEATED arguments with poeple over this.... they still refused to see the truth

Btw you dont see people asking how her hair changed from a coarse 3c to 3a/b ringlets I know her hair is professionally styled in the last two pics, but still.

drastic hair and nose (could just be age) changes, but nobody sees it or will have a 295609404023 thread about it.

 

[beana]

Slightly OT: this reminds me of when my friend called me a "hater" when i said Halle Berry had a nose job... He explained that she, "is half white and the whiteness is coming out with age." I ALMOST and a conniption!

ETA: Im still waiting for my big nose to change too lol

 

[Curlee_lurker]

In honor of this thread I flat ironed my hair and used the Aveda brilliant only and my hair looks absolutely amazing. So bouncy and shiny and straight even though I was rushing through it this morning before work.

Thanks angry thread.

 

[Kurlee]

In honor of this thread I flat ironed my hair and used the Aveda brilliant only and my hair looks absolutely amazing. So bouncy and shiny and straight even though I was rushing through it this morning before work.

Thanks angry thread.

aveda brilliant is goooood stuff

 

[Napp]

People are just mad that their nappy hair inspiration actually has "good hair.lol

 

[Kurlee]

People are just mad that their nappy hair inspiration actually has "good hair.lol

trueeee

 

[Embyra]

People are just mad that their nappy hair inspiration actually has "good hair.lol

 

[gcchick_07]

Stirring up "drama" is childish. I'm calling the situation for what it is. Don't have time to pussy foot and act brand new, like I don't know what's up. The longer the faulty logic continues, the longer we have have to listen to these ignant ideas passed of as supposed "interest"/ observation.

It's either people acting brand new, "don't get it" or just don't want/ know how to be frank. Whatever it is, I speak from what I see/think and that doesn't have to mean wanting drama. It just means I feel no way about calling BS or expecting people to dig a little deeper.

as other people have stated, i've seen many a dark skinned woman up and thru this forum with type 3 and less hair. i am not stunned by some "physical manifestation of the exotical".

i get what you are saying. but you are also ignoring the people like myself who are coming here and saying that if we DID NOT KNOW what her hair looked like when she was a child, this conversation would not be happening. however, we do. that is why we are all like "huh, where dat come from?". not because she's the darkest of the earth regular old black. but because her hair did not use to look like that. excuse us for not thinking that 1 + 2 = 7.

continuing to project what YOU think is the reason for people to be questioning her hair texture gets us nowhere. maybe you are around a lot of color struck folks. however, that's not my, or the posters who have been explaining why it is they bring her texture into question's problem.

i simply don't see how hair can go from one to the other without some type of alteration. that may be time, that may be heat. hell, she may have just figured out what moisture was (although it looked healthy when she was a child, but whatever). they just don't look the same.

 

[WAVES4DAYS]

People are just mad that their nappy hair inspiration actually has "good hair.lol

Stop It!!!!

 

[4bslbound]

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wow.looks like akeys (like beyonce) got a nose job

 

[pjbapb]

I saw this pic and all I could think was...Is that Ludacris? And is she wearing heals and still shorter than him?!!? It must be the angle of the camera or else that's someone else!

 

[Kurlee]

as other people have stated, i've seen many a dark skinned woman up and thru this forum with type 3 and less hair. i am not stunned by some "physical manifestation of the exotical".

i get what you are saying. but you are also ignoring the people like myself who are coming here and saying that if we DID NOT KNOW what her hair looked like when she was a child, this conversation would not be happening. however, we do. that is why we are all like "huh, where dat come from?". not because she's the darkest of the earth regular old black. but because her hair did not use to look like that. excuse us for not thinking that 1 + 2 = 7.

continuing to project what YOU think is the reason for people to be questioning her hair texture gets us nowhere. maybe you are around a lot of color struck folks. however, that's not my, or the posters who have been explaining why it is they bring her texture into question's problem.

i simply don't see how hair can go from one to the other without some type of alteration. that may be time, that may be heat. hell, she may have just figured out what moisture was (although it looked healthy when she was a child, but whatever). they just don't look the same.

I'm not projecting anything. Who else's point of view am I supposed to represent? If not my own, whose? I'm just calling it how I see it. If people don't agree. Cool. You stated why and that's cool too. But, I have yet to see anything posted that makes me feel any differently because I have observed over the years on here how people respond to and react to certain people and how they react to others. Especially since more than one poster has noticed the same "double standard" and difference of perception. I even posted numerous examples and no one touches it.

The fact that people are debating sooooooooooooooooooooooo hard in comparison to other people in comparative situations as posted by me and other posters and can't come up with a deeper answer except, "it looks different than when she was a kid", is not exactly convincing and is actually telling. If someone can offer a counterpoint with some substance then I'm all ears, but for now it just sounds like . How many posters showed pics of their own hair when they were kids and how it looks now, and how many talked about their parents combing out their hair and it being fluffy and rudyish, only to discover curls in adulthood? People see all of that, skip over and then stick to the same ol dry thing, because they want to see what they want to see and that's it.

Also, in reference to the 1+ 2 = 7 bit, that's a little condescending, no? Difference of opinion does not necessarily mean it's wrong. Part of a discussion is considering other points of view. I think a lot of what people are posting is going over a lot of heads.

 

[PhonyBaloney500]

Some of her hair does look kinda damaged straight in the front but I have no doubt that she has curly hair. I can relate to the whole "comb out the curls" experience and also never knew I could just wear my hair curly till adulthood! I used to do twists and braids to achieve the same effect (essentially) I have naturally.

Her hair on the Cosby Show is clearly combed and blown out IMP.

 

[EllePixie]

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wow.looks like akeys (like beyonce) got a nose job

All those chicks got nose jobs...I saw pics and apparently Keri Hilson has one too. Big deal (not implying that it's a big deal to you). At least they look good and don't look crazy like the Jacksons.

 

[Kurlee]

All those chicks got nose jobs...I saw pics and apparently Keri Hilson has one too. Big deal (not implying that it's a big deal to you). At least they look good and don't look crazy like the Jacksons.

really? Even keri? Well at least they know when to stop

 

[prettyhair73]

My hair can look as straight or as curly as hers does and I don't have anything in/on my hair. It's au naturel and it is heat trained.

 

[EllePixie]

really? Even keri? Well at least they know when to stop

If you Google it there is a lot of speculation that claims she has one (not sure how accurate that is obviously), and Bossip posted her high school pics and it does look like she had it narrowed a bit. I need for these chicks to just stop frontin' so I can get the name of their surgeons because this is some good work.
keri-hilson

 

[Irresistible]

@Irresistible - I've always said we're hair twins and now it's official. I have pictures just like this - I have some where my hair is even in a bigger fro. I myself wondered why my mom didn't do anything to my hair. She said "that's the way we wore it. It was clean, picked out, and healthy." Honestly, the products back then sucked. If you didn't press and curl, you wore braids or afro. I re-discovered my curls when I found leave-in and gel.

Lemme see if I can find those pictures....

hey girl , we were close, but your hair is/was looser than mine, but now we are definitely not as close, back when u found me my hair was heat trained and I didn't know it. Check out my hair lately , gurrrl , nothing like it used to be w/waves and stuff. well it waves/curls up w/product still, but I have NO hang-age anymore, no waves with just conditioner on loose hair anymore, not until its all combed through and stuff but does not hang down my back like before, just big and bigger hair now

my hair now has tighter curls with and without product, although different in each state

 

[blueberryd]

1.@Kurlee http://www.longhaircareforum.com/ha...38606-beyonce-fans-her-real-hair-i-think.html Ppl on here debating/doubting beyonce's hair once again...to prove my point---ITS NOT ALL ABOUT SKIN TONE AND STEREOTYPES with everyone. We discuss light skinned youtubers hair,brown skin, dark skin, etc...PPl point out often when some1s pic looks phony, or if theyre gangsta leaning, etc.....light,dark,whatever! I believe we are equal opportunity when it comes to critiquing hair--atleast here at LHCF...

2. Ithink Hallie did have a nose job--idon't know what the hell is goin on with ciarra and keri hilson as far as alicia and beyonce---I think it is extreme contouring...its a 'new' makeup technique (new to me--i'm a rookie at makeup technique) that really gives ur nose a slimmer appearnce, higher cheekbones, brighter eyes, etc--check out 'face contouring' on youtube on how to do it...

3. And yes Alicia WEARS WEAVE, beyonce WEARS WEAVE, AALIAH WORE WEAVE, Kim K WEARS WEAVE, jessica simpson WEARS WEAVE...black, white, light,dark, asian, bi-racial..ppl wear weaves and wigs..so what.

 

[tHENATuRALhAiRpRoJEcT]

eat the dauuuum cake annie mae

 

[empressri]

there is great madness in the world.

 

[ConstantlyDynamic]

I'm not projecting anything. Who else's point of view am I supposed to represent? If not my own, whose? I'm just calling it how I see it. If people don't agree. Cool. You stated why and that's cool too. But, I have yet to see anything posted that makes me feel any differently because I have observed over the years on here how people respond to and react to certain people and how they react to others. Especially since more than one poster has noticed the same "double standard" and difference of perception. I even posted numerous examples and no one touches it.

The fact that people are debating sooooooooooooooooooooooo hard in comparison to other people in comparative situations as posted by me and other posters and can't come up with a deeper answer except, "it looks different than when she was a kid", is not exactly convincing and is actually telling. If someone can offer a counterpoint with some substance then I'm all ears, but for now it just sounds like . How many posters showed pics of their own hair when they were kids and how it looks now, and how many talked about their parents combing out their hair and it being fluffy and rudyish, only to discover curls in adulthood? People see all of that, skip over and then stick to the same ol dry thing, because they want to see what they want to see and that's it.

Also, in reference to the 1+ 2 = 7 bit, that's a little condescending, no? Difference of opinion does not necessarily mean it's wrong. Part of a discussion is considering other points of view. I think a lot of what people are posting is going over a lot of heads.

we've all observed people's interactions with each other in our daily lives but you can't view every interaction with the same lens. you have to be able to use your judgment and discern differences. of course there will always be people who make assumptions based on skin color, but as someone else stated, don't assume every woman on here is like that. beyonce was a great example and I'm happy she brought it up because i almost forgot- people have been saying for years that beyonce must have curly hair since she's creole (and, correct me if i'm wrong, but in her childhood pics, her hair was curlier than keshia's-could've been a braidout though) but the women on here are always suspicious about what her real hair is like and i've seen people say the curly hair they see can't possibly be hers. why is keisha exempt from that? i could easily say that you're going out of your way to prove something as well-that darker-skinned women can have 3a/3b hair. i mean you claim that people ignore your evidence yet keisha herself states that heat has "tamed" her curls (again, her words, not mine) because she uses or used it so frequently. you continue to overlook that and then complain that the evidence YOU want to believe in was overlooked. we've seen how heat has changed people's textures on here and that's as real as the photos members have posted (and keisha said heat changed her curls so i just don't see what the issue is- that's different from the members who posted because their hair texture really did change due to different techniques/products/etc.-i'd put her in the category of lhdc2011).

 

[Kurlee]

we've all observed people's interactions with each other in our daily lives but you can't view every interaction with the same lens. you have to be able to use your judgment and discern differences. of course there will always be people who make assumptions based on skin color, but as someone else stated, don't assume every woman on here is like that. beyonce was a great example and I'm happy she brought it up because i almost forgot- people have been saying for years that beyonce must have curly hair since she's creole (and, correct me if i'm wrong, but in her childhood pics, her hair was curlier than keshia's-could've been a braidout though) but the women on here are always suspicious about what her real hair is like and i've seen people say the curly hair they see can't possibly be hers. why is keisha exempt from that? i could easily say that you're going out of your way to prove something as well-that darker-skinned women can have 3a/3b hair. i mean you claim that people ignore your evidence yet keisha herself states that heat has "tamed" her curls (again, her words, not mine) because she uses or used it so frequently. you continue to overlook that and then complain that the evidence YOU want to believe in was overlooked. we've seen how heat has changed people's textures on here and that's as real as the photos members have posted (and keisha said heat changed her curls so i just don't see what the issue is- that's different from the members who posted because their hair texture really did change due to different techniques/products/etc.-i'd put her in the category of lhdc2011).

1.@Kurlee http://www.longhaircareforum.com/ha...38606-beyonce-fans-her-real-hair-i-think.html Ppl on here debating/doubting beyonce's hair once again...to prove my point---ITS NOT ALL ABOUT SKIN TONE AND STEREOTYPES with everyone. We discuss light skinned youtubers hair,brown skin, dark skin, etc...PPl point out often when some1s pic looks phony, or if theyre gangsta leaning, etc.....light,dark,whatever! I believe we are equal opportunity when it comes to critiquing hair--atleast here at LHCF...

3. And yes Alicia WEARS WEAVE, beyonce WEARS WEAVE, AALIAH WORE WEAVE, Kim K WEARS WEAVE, jessica simpson WEARS WEAVE...black, white, light,dark, asian, bi-racial..ppl wear weaves and wigs..so what.

sorry just can't get down with the reasoning. Agree to disagree. Ya'lla re missing the point and it will be redundant for me to repeat.

 

[renren]

hey girl , we were close, but your hair is/was looser than mine, but now we are definitely not as close, back when u found me my hair was heat trained and I didn't know it. Check out my hair lately , gurrrl , nothing like it used to be w/waves and stuff. well it waves/curls up w/product still, but I have NO hang-age anymore, no waves with just conditioner on loose hair anymore, not until its all combed through and stuff but does not hang down my back like before, just big and bigger hair now

my hair now has tighter curls with and without product, although different in each state

I think Keshia is heat trained (as she said she tamed her curls). I believe that if she stops using heat, her new growth would be a different texture. Similar to the experience of Irresistible. Im not sure how different (extent of heat training) the texture would be but im sure it would be different.

Now, is it possible for girls of her complexion/color to have natural hair like the texture she has in the curly pic? Yes ofcourse it is, we have many on this board that proves this. But im not totally convinced that this is the case with HER (Keshia's) hair in particular.

Just my 2 cents

 

[snillohsss]

Im not sure if this has been asked already, but for those who feel that the current picture of Keshia's curls are not her real texture, what are you basing that off of?

Keshia has never been seen with her hair curly as a child, so if you're a naysayer, what are you basing your logic off? If you have never seen her hair curly prior to this picture, what is about her that is leading you to believe she is lying? I haven't seen the answer to that question addressed at all.

 

[renren]

Im not sure if this has been asked already, but for those who feel that the current picture of Keshia's curls are not her real texture, what are you basing that off of?

Keshia has never been seen with her hair curly as a child, so if you're a naysayer, what are you basing your logic off? If you have never seen her hair curly prior to this picture, what is about her that is leading you to believe she is lying? I haven't seen the answer to that question addressed at all.

You frequently wear your hair straight. Do you style it yourself? How do you protect your curls?

I do my own hair most of the time, unless I’m working. What I do is wash and condition it, detangling my hair in the shower while the conditioner is still in, and then rinse it out completely. I think a lot of the problems people have is that they don’t rinse their hair good enough… but if you can run your hair across it and it squeaks… literally… then it’s clean. I then blot dry with a towel until the majority of the moisture is gone. Next, I divide my hair in sections and lightly blow dry with an air concentrator attachment and a brush. Finally, I apply a little Aveda Brilliant Emollient Gloss as I flat iron it. That’s all I do. I’ve learned that less is more- - it keeps my skin clear and the overall result is much sleeker.
Another thing to be mindful of is how often you’re heat styling. I don’t put a lot of heat on my hair. Once I wash it and flat iron it, I rarely touch up. I don’t flat iron it again until I wash it again. As I’ve gotten older, I believe the heat has tamed my curl a little.

The answer to your question is in the interview and has been mentioned over and over again... I dont think she was lying... I think she was quite honest in the interview actually. The heat has tamed her curls... Like I said before I'm not sure of the extent of the heat training (as you have correctly said, I have not seen a picture of her curls before) but im sure her new growth is different somewhat (may not be drastically different as she said tamed a little).

 

[snillohsss]

You frequently wear your hair straight. Do you style it yourself? How do you protect your curls?

I do my own hair most of the time, unless I’m working. What I do is wash and condition it, detangling my hair in the shower while the conditioner is still in, and then rinse it out completely. I think a lot of the problems people have is that they don’t rinse their hair good enough… but if you can run your hair across it and it squeaks… literally… then it’s clean. I then blot dry with a towel until the majority of the moisture is gone. Next, I divide my hair in sections and lightly blow dry with an air concentrator attachment and a brush. Finally, I apply a little Aveda Brilliant Emollient Gloss as I flat iron it. That’s all I do. I’ve learned that less is more- - it keeps my skin clear and the overall result is much sleeker.
Another thing to be mindful of is how often you’re heat styling. I don’t put a lot of heat on my hair. Once I wash it and flat iron it, I rarely touch up. I don’t flat iron it again until I wash it again. As I’ve gotten older, I believe the heat has tamed my curl a little.

The answer to your question is in the interview and has been mentioned over and over again... I dont think she was lying... I think she was quite honest in the interview actually. The heat has tamed her curls... Like I said before I'm not sure of the extent of the heat training (as you have correctly said, I have not seen a picture of her curls before) but im sure her new growth is different somewhat (maybe not be drastically different as she said tamed a little).

I view "tame" and "change" a lot differently. When I read that, I assumed that she has less frizz, and the overall thickness of the strands which means that her curls won't bush out immediately. (not sure if I am explaining correctly) I didn't read that she meant the actual diameter of her curls changed. She could have even meant that the front of her hair was tamed a bit (that is where I see those straighter ends). I know for myself, the front of my hair is coarser and the curls tend out quickly to an undefined mess if it is not heavily moisturized.

What I am reading from posts here (not your post as I don't recall reading them) is that her curl pattern was much tighter than it is now. Meaning she went from say a 4a to a 3b, which I don't believe btw.

 

[renren]

I view "tame" and "change" a lot differently. When I read that, I assumed that she has less frizz, and the overall thickness of the strands which means that her curls won't bush out immediately. (not sure if I am explaining correctly) I didn't read that she meant the actual diameter of her curls changed.

What I am reading from posts here (not your post as I don't recall reading them) is that her curl pattern was much tighter than it is now. Meaning she went from say a 4a to a 3b, which I don't believe btw.

@ the bolded... im not even sure if thats possible. I don't think heat training can change textures so drastically. But im no expert on the topic so......

When she said 'tame' I interpreted it as loosen.....like sort of de-bulking if that makes any sense. I guess I interpreted it that way as well because she flat irons on squeaky clean hurr with no heat protectant.