Keratin Treatment Support Thread

[Dove56]

I looked at your fotki and I love your hai! See ya'll already got me started. I got one more treatment of DH, but now I want to use QOD fgold. Where did you purchase it?

Thank you. My poor head as been a BKT battle ground..lol. I guess I'm always trying to "one up" the last treatment! I'm turning into a BKT Tryone Biggums..lol.

Seriously though, I ordered QOD Gold from ebay for about $30.00. It's very concentrated so a little goes a long way which is good because you have a ton of hair!

I can't wait to wash the DH out tomorrow. I went to a Jazz club last night with my family and I got up and danced and my hurr was swangin and frizz free..lol. I love BKT.

 

[MarieB]

Ok, I just went to QOD's site and they list ingredients to ALL of their products: http://www.keratinbrazil.com/brazil... Natural Compounds QOD Brazilian Keratin.html

The ingredients look good to me! It looks like the Max and Red versions contain collagen as well. The Gold has Keratin listed twice so I'm wondering if it's a typo and it contains collagen as well. Even if it doesn't I like the ingredients better than any other brand so far. It's a shame it costs so much though, I was planning on buying a liter of treatment soon and if I like this one it'll be almost $400!!! Doesn't look like you have to be licensed to buy from them online.

I'll start with the sample and go from there. Hopefully my next treatment will be with QOD gold.

Hey Muse, I haven't tried any of the QOD line myself yet (I'm another Tyrone Biggums on the BKT), but I do know that Amazon has liters and full kits for under $400. I haven't researched them much because I'm not quite ready to commit to a full liter, but you should check it out.

 

[Muse]

Hey Muse, I haven't tried any of the QOD line myself yet (I'm another Tyrone Biggums on the BKT), but I do know that Amazon has liters and full kits for under $400. I haven't researched them much because I'm not quite ready to commit to a full liter, but you should check it out.

Thanks! I checked it out and it looks MUCH better for the whole kit on Amazon. I really hope I like it. I'm going to order a sample this coming weekend.

 

[naturalmanenyc]

This was my thinking as well when I bought my kit. If I get 8 treatments out of it then it will be $20 per treatment! I could never use a liter bottle though before it expires.

Does Global last longer due to the higher amount of formaldehyde?

Wow $400... whew! Well, the good news is you use a much smaller amount of QOD Gold than others. You'd probably get some 30 treatments from it, which certainly puts things into perspective. I think I was paying $25 per treatment for my Global between cost and the amount used.

 

[sheba1]

This was my thinking as well when I bought my kit. If I get 8 treatments out of it then it will be $20 per treatment! I could never use a liter bottle though before it expires.

Does Global last longer due to the higher amount of formaldehyde?

I've been thinking about it and I don't think any of them with formaldehyde over 1.5% could possibly expire inside of 2 years. I've got an unopened liter of DH (bought before the drive up in price) and when I do open it, I'm going to use it at my leisure until it's finished.

With formaldehyde (in trace amounts) being used as a preservative in other cosmetics, it doesn't make sense to me that a product with so much more formaldehyde will "spoil" within a shorter shelf life than other cosmetics. Most cosmetics are good for 2 years.

 

[naturalmanenyc]

Good point. My kit does not have an expiration date on any of the bottles.

I've been thinking about it and I don't think any of them with formaldehyde over 1.5% could possibly expire inside of 2 years. I've got an unopened liter of DH (bought before the drive up in price) and when I do open it, I'm going to use it at my leisure until it's finished.

With formaldehyde (in trace amounts) being used as a preservative in other cosmetics, it doesn't make sense to me that a product with so much more formaldehyde will "spoil" within a shorter shelf life than other cosmetics. Most cosmetics are good for 2 years.

 

[lilikoi]

Good point. My kit does not have an expiration date on any of the bottles.

My DH full size bottle states that the product is good for 36 months.

 

[BayAreaDream]

Hello, Doing the Dream Hair Keratin treatment tomorrow, I bought the Sample from Ebay last week. After doing a lot of research i felt that i was ready to go ahead and do the treatment, I just have one question and that is how long after i apply and flat iron do i have keep it on my hair? I have heard some at least 3-4 days and others say i can wash within the same day and still get good results. Also what are some good Shampoos for after care of the treatment? Thanks all

 

[sheba1]

Hello, Doing the Dream Hair Keratin treatment tomorrow, I bought the Sample from Ebay last week. After doing a lot of research i felt that i was ready to go ahead and do the treatment, I just have one question and that is how long after i apply and flat iron do i have keep it on my hair? I have heard some at least 3-4 days and others say i can wash within the same day and still get good results. Also what are some good Shampoos for after care of the treatment? Thanks all

Hey there Bayareadream! Wishing much success on your BKT tomorrow. With DH you can wash the next day but I'll doubt you'll want to. That hair will be pretty luxurious. So you may wash next day or leave it in until your next wash.

The reason there is so much variation here is because different BKT's have different rules depending on formulation. It is not a process that has to be nutralized or stopped at any time so you may leave it in for the extended periods if you choose.

For me, my hair looked awful while Global was in my hair but looks hawt while DH is in. Global I washed next day and DH I left straight for a week

As for good after care, think natural shampoos without sodium chloride or sea salt and for conditioning, I bet a lot of your conditioners will work fine. Just remember, no salt (specifically sodium chloride), sea salt, etc. I do a lot of cowashing when I have my BKT and most all of my deep conditioners fit the bill.

 

[Eisani]

DD's hair is really thriving w/BKT. I wash her weekly, blow drying and flat ironing usually bi-weekly. Since doing bkt, this process has consistently only taken an hour and a half, compared to the 2 or more hours it used to. Her hair is getting silky straight in just one pass of the flat iron as well, making heat exposure minimal. She loves it, and I do too! I can tell it's time to do mine again. I flat ironed for Christmas and my hair was hella thick and puffy. My last treatment was in November, right before Thanksgiving. I want to try a rollerset, but I haven't done one of those in about a year, or close to it!

I'm still scared to henna with the bkt, I really can't say why...

 

[me-T]

i had a random idea...
how about using a 4% formula and mixing in a favorite conditioner? i'm thinking it would still give the strength of a 2%, with added moisture.

any guinea pigs, 'cause i'm too scared to be one lol!

 

[Love Always]

I'm getting my treatment done this Saturday but I need a little help. I don't plan on straightening my hair at all with my BKT hair...with the exception of the intial process. Anyway, can someone who doesn't straighten their hair give me an idea of their regimen. If anyone can offer me some advice on some products to keep the hair moisturized I would appreciate it . Oh, has anyone whipped up some type of concoction in their little squirt bottles yet?

 

[Muse]

i had a random idea...
how about using a 4% formula and mixing in a favorite conditioner? i'm thinking it would still give the strength of a 2%, with added moisture.

any guinea pigs, 'cause i'm too scared to be one lol!

I would be afraid that the conditioner would negatively affect how the keratin and formal bind to the hair. Also what would be the effects of applying very high heat to conditioner?

 

[sheba1]

I'm getting my treatment done this Saturday but I need a little help. I don't plan on straightening my hair at all with my BKT hair...with the exception of the intial process. Anyway, can someone who doesn't straighten their hair give me an idea of their regimen. If anyone can offer me some advice on some products to keep the hair moisturized I would appreciate it .

Ooh! Ooh! me me me me; I hardly straighten my hair except for treatment time. Reggie is simple, cowash daily, add an oil that absorbs into the hair and then coat with conditioner and wet bun. That was my summer reggie, anyhow, and the results were awesome. BKT helps me loads with retention. I used to reconstruct twice a week with aphogee 2 minute and leave my DC in til next day cowash when I needed to DC. When I'm a BKT curly girl, I don't need to DC with heat.

Moisture/protein balance is easy as pie with BKT. Just dc when you get ready, and use all the products you currently have that don't contain sodium chloride. Easy easy easy.

Oh, has anyone whipped up some type of concoction in their little squirt bottles yet?

Chu talkin bout willis?

 

[NorthernCalGal]

Ooh! Ooh! me me me me; I hardly straighten my hair except for treatment time. Reggie is simple, cowash daily, add an oil that absorbs into the hair and then coat with conditioner and wet bun. That was my summer reggie, anyhow, and the results were awesome. BKT helps me loads with retention. I used to reconstruct twice a week with aphogee 2 minute and leave my DC in til next day cowash when I needed to DC. When I'm a BKT curly girl, I don't need to DC with heat.

How did I miss that you co-wash daily? Even if your shampoo/conditioner doesn't have sodium chloride, isn't your BKT going to wear off quicker with all that washing? How often do you BKT again. Sorry if this has been asked before. Just due laziness and not wanting to deal with the detangling drama pre-BKT, I had cut back on co-washing. And thought with the BKT, too much washing period would wear it off. Please enlighten me girl. My scalp really did better with more frequent co-washing.

 

[sheba1]

How did I miss that you co-wash daily? Even if your shampoo/conditioner doesn't have sodium chloride, isn't your BKT going to wear off quicker with all that washing? How often do you BKT again. Sorry if this has been asked before. Just due laziness and not wanting to deal with the detangling drama pre-BKT, I had cut back on co-washing. And thought with the BKT, too much washing period would wear it off. Please enlighten me girl. My scalp really did better with more frequent co-washing.

I actually haven't had a problem with treatment wearing off quickly. Even with daily cowashing and shampooing once a week or every other week, it took over 3 months for my treatment to completely wear off. I only detangle once a week, right before my shampoo.

 

[precious-olivia]

I got the OK (Original Keratin) Brazilian Hair Treatment in the mail. I am so excited, but I'm upset because my hair is in a weave and I have to wait [in a challenge] until the beginning of May to try it. Ladies help me... LOL!

 

[Dove56]

I am in LURVE with DH. I don't have pics because I don't have a USB for my camera and they didn't have one at Wally world but my hair is so silky skrait..lol. When I rollerset my hair tonight my roots were straight like I had relaxed. I really don't see me using a BKT with less than 2% anymore.

My results are similar to Global 2% but my hair isn't as "heavy" and weighted down but it dries really fast just like it did with global. LOVE IT!~

 

[BayAreaDream]

Hey there Bayareadream! Wishing much success on your BKT tomorrow. With DH you can wash the next day but I'll doubt you'll want to. That hair will be pretty luxurious. So you may wash next day or leave it in until your next wash.

The reason there is so much variation here is because different BKT's have different rules depending on formulation. It is not a process that has to be nutralized or stopped at any time so you may leave it in for the extended periods if you choose.

For me, my hair looked awful while Global was in my hair but looks hawt while DH is in. Global I washed next day and DH I left straight for a week

As for good after care, think natural shampoos without sodium chloride or sea salt and for conditioning, I bet a lot of your conditioners will work fine. Just remember, no salt (specifically sodium chloride), sea salt, etc. I do a lot of cowashing when I have my BKT and most all of my deep conditioners fit the
bill.

Thank you Sheba1 for you advice my hair came out great, yes i'm leaving it in for a few days because it looks good and feels great. I took pics an will post them tomarrow. It was a fairly simple proccess, just lots of heat. My hair feels like I have fresh relaxer in an I'm 4 months post. Oh yeah the fumes were crazy, too much.

 

[jayjaycurlz]

Has anyone tried the Encanto brand on ebay?

 

[naturalmanenyc]

Wow, 3 years worth of BKT

At 33 oz per bottle, that is 16 treatments (assuming 2 ounces per treatment). $200 would be a great deal = $12.50 per treatment. I am at $20 per treatment now with my 16 oz bottle.

I still would not be able to use 33 ounces in 3 years though. I BKT every 3 months (when not in weave) so I'd only do maybe 12 treatments in that time.

My DH full size bottle states that the product is good for 36 months.

 

[sheba1]

Wow, 3 years worth of BKT

At 33 oz per bottle, that is 16 treatments (assuming 2 ounces per treatment). $200 would be a great deal = $12.50 per treatment. I am at $20 per treatment now with my 16 oz bottle.

I still would not be able to use 33 ounces in 3 years though. I BKT every 3 months (when not in weave) so I'd only do maybe 12 treatments in that time.

At APL I actually used less than an ounce for my treatment and... I had no previous BKT in my hair, at the time.


DH is pretty awesome.

 

[Titansgirl]

Well ladies after 7 months I did another treatment last week. I stayed with the Softliss because it did such a wonderful job the 1st time. I'm definitely still in love with it!!!! I'm very happy with my results. Here are the results...... I loaded picture before the wash, after the clarifying wash, blowdry w/ treatment, after the mask I wrapped my hair and set under the dryer, & then I flatironed.

 

[foxee]

^^^Titansgirl, your hair looks beautiful!

 

[Titansgirl]

Thanks Foxee...... I'm really loving the BKT.... It's definitely a winner for naturals who want their hair to remain straight when it is faltironed.

 

[sheba1]

Titansgirl, you better get it!!! Go gurl, your hair is looking fabulous!!!!

 

[ChristmasCarol]

Looks great! You guys have me thinking that I may do another BKT today or tomorrow...

 

[BayAreaDream]

Can you put anything on your hair after treatment? Or do i just have to wait till i wash for the first time? Thanks

Oh yes and here are some pictures!!! I'm feeling BKT.

 

[sheba1]

BayAreaDream your hair is dreamy! it's beautiful!!! BKT loves you back

 

[Oyekade]

Has anyone tried the Encanto brand on ebay?

I bought the 8oz in November and I like it but the process is way way too long, it took me about 4-5hrs. So i don't know, I have to find a way to finish the 8oz i have here but I will not repurchase again due to the amount of steps it requires.