Keratin Treatment Support Thread

Welcome Evsbaby!! You're gonna love the BKT train :yep:

I am so so sorry to hear that your lovely locks suffered damage in the detangling process, however. :( :( But I do think that they'll spring back to life in no time, at all. My hair thickened so much once I was able to incorporate daily cowashing into my reggie and not have to worry about losing chunks of hair while detangling.

Muse said:
Hi,

Ones with formaldehyde usually give the most dramatic and long lasting results. Most of us have gone on a Dream Hair keratin strike until the owner gives us a reasonable price (she was price gouging) but if you really want to buy it still samples can be purchased on ebay. I heard the OK brand is comparable to DH but I have yet to try it.
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Hey Muse! :wave: I heard we won that fight!! Fab sent Ana an email with our demands and really fought the good fight. At least, I think we did. The post about the email happened while I was at work and I missed everything. But I remember reading a post about a special lhcf code that garaunteed $200 for the liter size on all scents.

I was expecting to see Fab so I can congratulate her but I haven't seen her. Fab?.... Are you out there?? Come back :crybaby:
 
evsbaby said:
If the shedding continues I will have to cut it all off and start over. Garlic treatments have slowed it down and I have incorporated coffee back in my regi. However I cannot take the garlic smell so I have been slacking and the shedding came back with a vengeance.
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Hi, evsbaby, just wanted to suggest that you can take garlic supplements if you don't want to apply it directly to your scalp. I usually take it when I find I'm shedding a lot. I tend to shed most in the winter (like a collie..., for real, between me, my cat, and my dog, it's like tumbleweeds up in this piece most winters:lachen:). This is my first winter with BKT, and I am seriously tracking my hair's behavior (shedding, split ends, dryness, frizz, etc.). So far, I have experienced far less shedding than I had with relaxed hair, but I've got my garlic pills on stand-by if I start seeing too much. HTH.
 
Where did you purchase the OK one day? and where did you purchase your Global???


AtlantaJJ said:
^^I have the OK One day, I'm going to use it my next BKT. I'm doing a roots BKT with Global 4% right now because the color I did stripped away all my BKT on the roots it seems. I needed a "touch up" LOL

My hair likes Global better. It leaves body in my hair. I still get straight and have the swing, but i keep body and my strands seem thicker. I'm a Global application pro now. I little to no smoke when I hit my roots. :clap:

I'll try Dream hair on my roots again. I'll do a lower temp and see if that helps...

My color came out good, grays are covered. I am not sure I can do the color and the BKT on the same day. The color made my hair so smooth. I'm not sure if the BKT would get into the cuticle after the color. I used the Global shampoo today to rough up the cuticle so the BKT would stick.
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sheba1 said:
Welcome Evsbaby!! You're gonna love the BKT train :yep:

I am so so sorry to hear that your lovely locks suffered damage in the detangling process, however. :( :( But I do think that they'll spring back to life in no time, at all. My hair thickened so much once I was able to incorporate daily cowashing into my reggie and not have to worry about losing chunks of hair while detangling.



Hey Muse! :wave: I heard we won that fight!! Fab sent Ana an email with our demands and really fought the good fight. At least, I think we did. The post about the email happened while I was at work and I missed everything. But I remember reading a post about a special lhcf code that garaunteed $200 for the liter size on all scents.

I was expecting to see Fab so I can congratulate her but I haven't seen her. Fab?.... Are you out there?? Come back :crybaby:
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Ok, I thought it was just me. I sent her a PM and haven't heard from her. That's incredible if we won because I don't want to stop using DH, but sometimes you have to do what you have to do.

sheba1 said:
Hey Guys,

For those who wanted more experiences about the OK Keratin 1 day formula, there is a GORGEOUS head of hair that I had beautiful results on Fotki. She contacted me and thought I might want to post her link here.

http://public.fotki.com/Nappylicious/hair-albums-1/my-hair-09-10/

Beautiful right?? :thud:
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Did she pull her pics? It says that all of her folders are empty.:sad:
 
I did my first BKT yesterday with my DH sample. The result wasn't super straight hair, but I think that is because of the flatiron I used (BaByliss - supposed to get up to 410, but didn't feel like it). I am 4b natural (hair hasn't been straightened in a yr) with thick strands after the BKT my hair soft as silk! I have a serious problem with single strand knots and I'm hoping BKT can tame them like they did for Sheba1. :) I definitely plan to BKT again!
 
Man that BKT drama has got my head spinning. I think I'm gonna go with global from now on. Having seen the ingredients to Ok (partial list), Inoar, and Global, I like Global the best. I think I'll stick with the 2%.
 
OK laides, I have a consultation for my BKT on Saturday :grin:. Can you ladies give me some advice or question to ask the stylist :look:.
 
I noticed that many people mentioned softliss. Its supposed to be Formaldehyde Free.

Those of you who henna or use Cassia Obavata, did you end up straighter hair after the BKT treatment?

I'm thinking about using softliss because I can apparently continue using my Cassia within my regimen.
 
just to be sure, we DID win, right? i saw the result thread, but it doesn't look like any progress was made in our favor.
i really don't want to try another brand, but buying samples on ebay is still supporting DH in my mind. they might raise their price to ofset her price increase!
 
Hey there, my BKT Beauties! I hope you are all enjoying a wonderful New Year. :wave:

I got another message from Napp :yep: She wanted to share the ingredients for the OK Keratin one day formula:

Napp said:
I just wanted to add that i have the ingredients for the new one day ok formula. water, propylene glycol, cetearyl alcohol, keratin, cetrimonium chloride, cyclopentasiloxane, dimethicone, formaldehyde 1.75, hydrolyzed silk, amodimethicone, vitamin e, imidazolidynyl urea, fragrance. I wonder how it compares with the old formula
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Muse said:
Man that BKT drama has got my head spinning. I think I'm gonna go with global from now on. Having seen the ingredients to Ok (partial list), Inoar, and Global, I like Global the best. I think I'll stick with the 2%.
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Ok now I just read Veejee's rave about QOD Gold in the other BKT thread and now I'm interested! I emailed a seller on ebay and asked for the ingredients. If they are better than Global's then I will go for it. Also QOD says it's formaldehyde free and the Gold one is suppose to be the best one in the line. I hope I like what's in it because if I do I may try it before my DH sample is gone (which is turning out to last me longer than I thouight).
 
Anyone doing ayurveda herbs with BKT'd hair? I usually do a yogurt+ayurvedic herbs treatment but I am thinking of discontinuing these treatment while my hair has bkt on it. I cannot do without my henna though so I will be hennaing my roots only.

I also do bentonite or rhassoul clay masks. Can I still do these on my scalp only? I think I will actually skip these. I am thinking I should just keep it simple with the BKT?

What leave-ins are good on BKT hair?

Anyone gelling their BKT'd hair to slick it back without any adverse reactions?

TIA................

I just realised that is hard understand what it is like to have BKT on your hair unless you actually have it done- still loving it! It is better than a relaxer. My hair is bone straight when I flat iron but reverts back when I wash it. My hair is like a Victoria's secret 100% silk, satin robe...................Love it! I just need to stop playing in my hair now.
 
evsbaby said:
Anyone doing ayurveda herbs with BKT'd hair? I usually do a yogurt+ayurvedic herbs treatment but I am thinking of discontinuing these treatment while my hair has bkt on it. I cannot do without my henna though so I will be hennaing my roots only.
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I don't see why you can't henna root to tip without issue. Just make sure your moisture/protein balance is back in check before your next BKT. I henna'd a week before my most recent BKT to no ill end. Also the hair that had been previously BKT'd a month before looked hawt after my henna.

I revisited my ayurvedic herbs usage (mixing teas with conditioner) for a little while before I had my sew-in installed. My BKT was already wearing, though, so I wasn't too worried about stripping the treatment.

Since my BKT this past Sunday, I think I'm going to go right back to cowashing with my conditioners/ayurvedic teas and see if it strips my treatment early. I hope they can co-exist because I really love what ayurveda does for my hair.

I also do bentonite or rhassoul clay masks. Can I still do these on my scalp only?
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hmm... no idea on that one

I think I will actually skip these. I am thinking I should just keep it simple with the BKT?
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keepin it simple sounds good to me :yep:

What leave-ins are good on BKT hair?
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Anything without sodium chloride is fine. You'll probably find the leave ins you have already are ok.

Anyone gelling their BKT'd hair to slick it back without any adverse reactions?
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sure, as long as there is no salt, it's cool. I like the clear gels like fantasia IC sparkle lites.

TIA................

I just realised that is hard understand what it is like to have BKT on your hair unless you actually have it done- still loving it! It is better than a relaxer. My hair is bone straight when I flat iron but reverts back when I wash it. My hair is like a Victoria's secret 100% silk, satin robe...................Love it! I just need to stop playing in my hair now.
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Oh yes :yep: I know exactly how you feel :wink2:
 
Muse said:
Ok now I just read Veejee's rave about QOD Gold in the other BKT thread and now I'm interested! I emailed a seller on ebay and asked for the ingredients. If they are better than Global's then I will go for it. Also QOD says it's formaldehyde free and the Gold one is suppose to be the best one in the line. I hope I like what's in it because if I do I may try it before my DH sample is gone (which is turning out to last me longer than I thouight).
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Muse,

My hair was like BUTTAH with QOD Gold! :yep: I am REALLY loving *DH* too:yep:. The only thing I didn't like about DH how hard it was to comb the treatment through my hair after I applied the treatment. When I combed the QOD Gold through my hair was so soft and silky with absolutely no tangles. I'm going to wash my hair tomorrow AND purchase a USB so I can upload some pictures of my DH results. :)
 
Hey ladies, Happy New Year to you all!

So I'm getting my first BKT on Wednesday, and it just occurred to me...do I have to use silicone products to maintain the keratin treatment? I think most of the product recs I see in this thread contain silicone, and all my products are cone-free...

It's already gonna be a big change for me to coat my hair with the BKT treatment. Are there any cone-free BKT beauties here, or is that a silly idea?
 
Not silly, at all, Mstar. I think your cone free products will be just fine, as long as you avoid salt (sodium chloride). BKT'd hair is easy; you'll see.
 
Veejee said:
Muse,

My hair was like BUTTAH with QOD Gold! :yep: I am REALLY loving *DH* too:yep:. The only thing I didn't like about DH how hard it was to comb the treatment through my hair after I applied the treatment. When I combed the QOD Gold through my hair was so soft and silky with absolutely no tangles. I'm going to wash my hair tomorrow AND purchase a USB so I can upload some pictures of my DH results. :)
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Oh man! I am so close to ordering now! I know what you mean about DH making it a bit more difficult to comb through. I haven't tried any other brands but when I first applied it to my hair I thought the consistency would make it easier to detangle.:nono: The fact that QOD detangles your hair during application sounds good to me.

The one thing that concerns me is that since it's formadehyde free IDK if it will be strong enough to handle my 4b natural hair. I will see, I may end up finding that it does a better job straightening my hair than DH :blush:. Also, how were the fumes compared to DH?

Thanks Veejee! Can't wait to see your after wash results and hear how it compares to QOD after wash.
 
Muse said:
Oh man! I am so close to ordering now! I know what you mean about DH making it a bit more difficult to comb through. I haven't tried any other brands but when I first applied it to my hair I thought the consistency would make it easier to detangle.:nono: The fact that QOD detangles your hair during application sounds good to me.

The one thing that concerns me is that since it's formadehyde free IDK if it will be strong enough to handle my 4b natural hair. I will see, I may end up finding that it does a better job straightening my hair than DH :blush:. Also, how were the fumes compared to DH?

Thanks Veejee! Can't wait to see your after wash results and hear how it compares to QOD after wash.
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Muse,

QOD fumes were basically nonexistent; QOD smells like a chemical banana..lol. I'd say Softliss and DH are about the same in terms of fumes, both were worse than QOD Gold but not unbearable by any means. Also, make sure you towel blot your hair after you apply the treatment to expedite your blowdrying time and minimize fumes. That's what I've done and it really helps. :)
 
I didn't get the treatment done today, I just went to the stylist so she could see my hair and talk more about the treatment. I made an appointment and I'm getting it done next Saturday :grin:. I had a really good vibe from her and she said the treatment will work well on my hair. I told her I didn't want the heat on the flat iron to the highest setting and she said that she doesn't turn the flat iron up that high because that's where the damage comes into play. She told me that she has had clients go to Beverly Hills to get the treatment done and they had heat damage due to the flat iron being on the highest setting :nono:. Anyway, I can't wait until next week and I'll defintely take pictures...I'm so excited!

jayjaycurlz said:
How'd it turn out? Don't you love how silky and tangle-free your hair is afterwards? :grin:
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Ok, I just went to QOD's site and they list ingredients to ALL of their products: http://www.keratinbrazil.com/brazil... Natural Compounds QOD Brazilian Keratin.html

The ingredients look good to me! It looks like the Max and Red versions contain collagen as well. The Gold has Keratin listed twice so I'm wondering if it's a typo and it contains collagen as well. Even if it doesn't I like the ingredients better than any other brand so far. It's a shame it costs so much though, I was planning on buying a liter of treatment soon and if I like this one it'll be almost $400!!! Doesn't look like you have to be licensed to buy from them online.

I'll start with the sample and go from there. Hopefully my next treatment will be with QOD gold.
 
Wow $400... whew! Well, the good news is you use a much smaller amount of QOD Gold than others. You'd probably get some 30 treatments from it, which certainly puts things into perspective. I think I was paying $25 per treatment for my Global between cost and the amount used.
 
sheba1 said:
Wow $400... whew! Well, the good news is you use a much smaller amount of QOD Gold than others. You'd probably get some 30 treatments from it, which certainly puts things into perspective. I think I was paying $25 per treatment for my Global between cost and the amount used.
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I know. Don't know if I'll get up enough nerve to drop that kind of money. I found liters of the Gold on ebay for $210 but you know how that goes. Is it authentic? Expired? Watered down? etc... I saw a seller on there that looked pretty legit, listing expiration date and all (even said samples come in original sample bottles from the company). Still you never know. I'll start with a sample first and see how that goes.:yep:
 
Veejee said:
Muse,

QOD fumes were basically nonexistent; QOD smells like a chemical banana..lol. I'd say Softliss and DH are about the same in terms of fumes, both were worse than QOD Gold but not unbearable by any means. Also, make sure you towel blot your hair after you apply the treatment to expedite your blowdrying time and minimize fumes. That's what I've done and it really helps. :)
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I looked at your fotki and I love your hai! See ya'll already got me started. I got one more treatment of DH, but now I want to use QOD fgold. Where did you purchase it?
 
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