Keratin Treatment Support Thread

[mstar]

Check out this thread, Mstar: The Truth About Flat Irons

I learned this trick from Fab. Do a search on bing.com for "camera". Click on the link that says to get 8% cash back (sometimes more) from ebay. Click on the ebay link and then search for Croc 2. If you get it from ebay you should be able to get your Croc2 from a trusted seller for $85 and get 8% cash back. You just have to pay with paypal.

I love my Croc2 but since you already have a titanium iron, I would probably just get me that teflon tape that improves any iron for BKT use. Don'tspeakdefeat wrapped that teflon tape around her $300 flat iron to improve it so I'm gonna put it on my Croc and see what I think. LInk to it is below. She said she replaces it every 6 months.

http://www.braziliankeratin.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=178

Thank you SOOOOO much for this, Sheba! I've suffered a lot of heat damage recently, and that teflon tape would really ease my fears. And I love that Bing trick, thanks for sharing! 8% sure beats the 2% I get with Ebates.

AtlantaJJ, I have a Karmin titanium flat iron. I got it after seeing someone's results on this forum using it to straighten their natural 4b hair. I could only find it at one site online (and the site was flled with hundreds of what I presume are fake reviews--if there were really 300 satisfied customers, I should've been able to find some reviews on other sites besides the one selling the iron.) Anyways, it seems to be okay, but I wouldn't really know because I have nothing to compare it to. (Btw, I ended up getting a Rusk ceramic blow dryer at TJ Maxx yesterday, and I'll test drive it tomorrow.)

 

[Dove56]

Great!!! I'm excited to see your results. When was the last time you did
your softliss?

Blessed2Bless,

I did my last treatment down the entire length of my hair after I had highlights done to seal the color, plus color/bleach removes some of the treatment so I wanted to refresh.

I did another treatment on my new growth only around Sept 15-16. I had excellent result (used Softliss)!!! I'm back to taking my mulit-vitamin because I'm growing back to WL (or MBL) so I'm having to BKT more often..lol.

So far, the CKT (Coppola Keratin Treatment) is awesome! The results are very similar to Softliss so far. I will know for sure after I wash tomorrow, but they even smell the same.

 

[Blessed2bless]

Blessed2Bless,

I did my last treatment down the entire length of my hair after I had highlights done to seal the color, plus color/bleach removes some of the treatment so I wanted to refresh.

I did another treatment on my new growth only around Sept 15-16. I had excellent result (used Softliss)!!! I'm back to taking my mulit-vitamin because I'm growing back to WL (or MBL) so I'm having to BKT more often..lol.

So far, the CKT (Coppola Keratin Treatment) is awesome! The results are very similar to Softliss so far. I will know for sure after I wash tomorrow, but they even smell the same.

Thanks Veejee! I was just on the Softliss website and saw a response from you... I just did Dreamhair last week and i am biting at the bits to do another treatment. My hair is somewhat thick so my ng is still very puffy. How soon do you recommend I do another treatment? (Softliss). Cuteness does her bkt monthly...so 2 weeks isn't too soon?

 

[cutenss]

I know you are adressing Sheba but what's up with the fam members sweating you about your hair?

Ask them if they can find something better and more productive to do with their time. You can tell them AtlantaJJ told them you to tell them that and refer them to me if they give you any static. I'll pay them a visit, next time I'm in town to see my family. (There is a reason I live across country from my family )

I'm sorry you have that kind of trouble with your folks. I know you are going to love the BKT and you should be able to do them yourself.

YEAH

 

[sheba1]

Hey Blessed, your NG may need two treatments to take since it's natural. I did my first two treatments 5 days apart. And then spread out to around 8 weeks after that.

 

[cutenss]

Ok to clarify about the flatiron temperature...I use 420-430 on my hair because I do BKT once a month. And I could feel that my strands only needed that many heat passes. You hair should feel silky, soft, etc. Now mine DID NOT with QOD , not matter what I did. My hair did not like it. But I was told, and have done 450 degrees in the past. Plus I used mu Sedu Revolution on 420-430, which is a top of the line iron. So that could contribute to it also.

AJJ, Yes there is a price difference. To me, if one was not available, I would purchase another. To me and my hair, the only thing different is the price on ebay. I think you should try the Dreamhair.
BTW did you get your Sedu blowdryer from Folica?

 

[Blessed2bless]

Hey Blessed, your NG may need two treatments to take since it's natural. I did my first two treatments 5 days apart. And then spread out to around 8 weeks after that.

Thank You Sheba1,
I was wondering about this, thanks for clarifying . I will do another treatment this weekend. Only to my new growth...The reason why I like bkt better than tex-laxing is... you don't have to worry about over lapping.

 

[Dove56]

Thanks Veejee! I was just on the Softliss website and saw a response from you... I just did Dreamhair last week and i am biting at the bits to do another treatment. My hair is somewhat thick so my ng is still very puffy. How soon do you recommend I do another treatment? (Softliss). Cuteness does her bkt monthly...so 2 weeks isn't too soon?

Bless,

2 weeks isn't too soon. The second treatment is usually when the magic happens. What type of flatiron are you using and what temp?

I let the stylist test a strip of hair at 450 and it didn't fall out like it did with that Sally's flatiron at 450 degrees back in 2004-05. The stylist did about 2-3 swipes but it still looked dull (I don't like that Coppola flatiron). I came home and it about 2-3 times on 415 degrees with my Babyliss Tourmaline flatiron and my hair was and is blingin!

 

[Mane Event]

I know some ladies are coloring/highlighting with BKT. So far, how's your hair holding up??? I'm hoping BKT will be my saving grace for highlights. I prefer length over color but I just can't seem to embrace my natural color....almost jet black :-(

I'm so tempted to color and then BKT! Please share your experiences before I make a terrible mistake! THANK YOU!

 

[Muse]

I really think using the 450 temp is best for sealing the treatment. I noticed that folks are a bit leery about the heat and possible heat damage, but I think the best results are achieved at 450. All my subsequent flat irons (for straight-styling) have been at substantially lower heat than i would have even used pre-BKT.

Thanks MyAngelEyez! I only have the Sedu that goes up to 410. I thought I could get away with it but I don't know why, not with natural 4b hair. I am going to get a Hana flat iron next month so I should be set when I do my whole head.

I did wash my hair today and the section that I did is nice so far! It still reverted but it's soft and tangles less (that's a MASSIVE improvement for the hair in the back of my head-it usually responds to NOTHING!). When I run my hands across it it so much smoother than the rest of my hair. It was so nice being able to shampoo that section and not have it draw up as tightly. I can only imagine how much better it would have been if I used the proper temp to seal it! Now I'm off to shop around for a good price on that flat iron. Thanks ladies I'm on the BKT train!

 

[Ganjababy]

Anyone with fine hair set their iron at 450 without any adverse effects?

 

[Blessed2bless]

Bless,

2 weeks isn't too soon. The second treatment is usually when the magic happens. What type of flatiron are you using and what temp?

I let the stylist test a strip of hair at 450 and it didn't fall out like it did with that Sally's flatiron at 450 degrees back in 2004-05. The stylist did about 2-3 swipes but it still looked dull (I don't like that Coppola flatiron). I came home and it about 2-3 times on 415 degrees with my Babyliss Tourmaline flatiron and my hair was and is blingin![/QUOTE]

Wow Veejee!
This make sense now. Especially when you said the second treatment is when the magic happens.. I'll order the Softliss.. my only reservation is not knowing which one order. I've read you have ordered the chocolate. What's the difference?.... btw...My flat iron is from the mall? Not sure of the name. I believe it's curlsmaster and the setting I used was between 15 and 20 the highest setting is 25. I'm at work. Question???
Correct me if I'm wrong... On my second treatment...should I do it to the whole head or just the ng? Does it matter? If it doesn't matter... I'll be doing the entire head of hair again....and I'll post pics here in this thread...

 

[AtlantaJJ]

Anyone with fine hair set their iron at 450 without any adverse effects?

Um, that would be me, your hair twin!!! Plus I have a relaxer in my hair which it usually hates but my hair is triving!

Hold on I'll post some pictures and then I must caution you about what to expect for your first treatment.

ETA: Excuse my ragged ends, I'm still trimming off my single strand knots. I trimmed it after I took the pictures. This is right after my treatment Sunday. My hair is still growing out from the big chop so I have all different lengths. I will not get it cut into a style until next spring when my crown has a chance to catch up with the back of my hair more. I'm about 5 months post textlax.

I textlaxed my hair to this texture to stretch out my hair and to get the BKT to take better. My goal was to have straight hair. For anyone who wonders if the BKT wears off, trust me, it does!! LOL I workout a lot and sweat, the sodium will take the BKT right out of your hair and your true texture will come back. With repeated use, the hair will straighten out more. I am going to decrease time between my BKTs so I can get my roots straighter because that's my goal.

This was me in May of 2008:

This is me right before the BKT in May 2009

 

[MyAngelEyez~C~U]

Thanks MyAngelEyez! I only have the Sedu that goes up to 410. I thought I could get away with it but I don't know why, not with natural 4b hair. I am going to get a Hana flat iron next month so I should be set when I do my whole head.

I did wash my hair today and the section that I did is nice so far! It still reverted but it's soft and tangles less (that's a MASSIVE improvement for the hair in the back of my head-it usually responds to NOTHING!). When I run my hands across it it so much smoother than the rest of my hair. It was so nice being able to shampoo that section and not have it draw up as tightly. I can only imagine how much better it would have been if I used the proper temp to seal it! Now I'm off to shop around for a good price on that flat iron. Thanks ladies I'm on the BKT train!

Great! Good luck, and I know you will enjoy the results!

 

[Ganjababy]

Thanks AtlantaJJ. Your hair is truly goorgeous and healthy looking!

Um, that would be me, your hair twin!!! Plus I have a relaxer in my hair which it usually hates but my hair is triving!

Hold on I'll post some pictures and then I must caution you about what to expect for your first treatment.

ETA: Excuse my ragged ends, I'm still trimming off my single strand knots. I trimmed it after I took the pictures. This is right after my treatment Sunday. My hair is still growing out from the big chop so I have all different lengths. I will not get it cut into a style until next spring when my crown has a chance to catch up with the back of my hair more. I'm about 5 months post textlax.

I textlaxed my hair to this texture to stretch out my hair and to get the BKT to take better. My goal was to have straight hair. For anyone who wonders if the BKT wears off, trust me, it does!! LOL I workout a lot and sweat, the sodium will take the BKT right out of your hair and your true texture will come back. With repeated use, the hair will straighten out more. I am going to decrease time between my BKTs so I can get my roots straighter because that's my goal.

This was me in May of 2008:

This is me right before the BKT in May 2009

 

[cutenss]

You hair is looking good AJJ. The shine is blindin'

 

[Dove56]

I updated my Fotki ladies with photos of the Coppola Keratin Treatment.

Okay, here is my review of CTK:

My hair doesn't feel coated at all. In fact, it feels the same way it did before I starting fooling with these treatments..lol. Was it work $175 (minus the tip) HECK no!??!! I should've waited and did this at home!!! I didn't have any issues with fumes it was like he was putting conditioner in my hair.

So far I think Softliss is the keeper for me. I'm not experimenting anymore I'm just sticking with Softliss because I love how my hair behaves with it plus it's dirt cheap and I LOVE the mask.

I'll let you all know how my hair behaves after my workouts.

Oh, I LOVE the Pureology hydrating shampoooo!!!! The Coppola Vanilla Bean Conditioner is pretty good, not work $20.00 though.

The photos don't really do a good job of depicting the growth I've had. The longest part of my hair is now an 1" below my brastrap!! Yay!! I'm not trimming until March until I dust the ends, that's it.

 

[AtlantaJJ]

I updated my Fotki ladies with photos of the Coppola Keratin Treatment.

Okay, here is my review of CTK:

My hair doesn't feel coated at all. In fact, it feels the same way it did before I starting fooling with these treatments..lol. Was it work $175 (minus the tip) HECK no!??!! I should've waited and did this at home!!! I didn't have any issues with fumes it was like he was putting conditioner in my hair.

So far I think Softliss is the keeper for me. I'm not experimenting anymore I'm just sticking with Softliss because I love how my hair behaves with it plus it's dirt cheap and I LOVE the mask.

I'll let you all know how my hair behaves after my workouts.

Oh, I LOVE the Pureology hydrating shampoooo!!!! The Coppola Vanilla Bean Conditioner is pretty good, not work $20.00 though.

The photos don't really do a good job of depicting the growth I've had. The longest part of my hair is now an 1" below my brastrap!! Yay!! I'm not trimming until March until I dust the ends, that's it.

Your hair looks lovely as always, I agree you should stick with what works...and save money to boot!!

I know what you mean, my photos don't show my growth but it does show how much my hair has gotten thicker. My hair was paper thin when I did my first BKT now I have so much volume and body, especially after my first wash. I can wear wear my hair in full looking styles which is important to me because my hair is generally so fine and was thinning with age. That is changing now its getting thicker again.

 

[cutenss]

Here are my Dreamhair pics both wet and dry:

wet hair, no product

flatiron hair, a little too much coconut oil

Love Dreamhair. It is the best thing ever I did another trim. I will never make to goal of MBL, unless I put down the scissors

 

[AtlantaJJ]

Here are my Dreamhair pics both wet and dry:

wet hair, no product

flatiron hair, a little too much coconut oil

Love Dreamhair. It is the best thing ever I did another trim. I will never make to goal of MBL, unless I put down the scissors

Girl your hair looks so good thick and even, perfect! I love that! Thickness before length is my goal. Its going to take me a long time to show length because I'm constantly trimming my ends to make my hair even out vs longer as it grows out from my Big Chop.

So you like Dreamhair over OK Keratin?

Did you have to leave Dream hair in for 48 - 72 hours before your first wash?

I was chatting with a seller on Ebay and she said OK Keratin has a new wash the next day formula now vs 3 days! When can you wash after using Dreamhair?

 

[cutenss]

I washed the next day out of laziness. But I will do either formula. When I did the OK for the second time, I was after 24 hours. I didn't wait. So what is this new OK formula? Is it available on Ebay?

 

[Keen]

Here are my Dreamhair pics both wet and dry:

wet hair, no product

flatiron hair, a little too much coconut oil

Love Dreamhair. It is the best thing ever I did another trim. I will never make to goal of MBL, unless I put down the scissors

Your hair is dreamy! (No pun intended )

 

[AtlantaJJ]

I washed the next day out of laziness. But I will do either formula. When I did the OK for the second time, I was after 24 hours. I didn't wait. So what is this new OK formula? Is it available on Ebay?

I know a vendor that sells the OK and Dreamhair 4 oz of OK is $10 less than 4 oz. of Dreamhair. That's why I'm asking what's the real difference...

ETA: The Seller says OK is much thicker now and you can wash the next day and she likes it better than Dreamhair

Ebay Okay - New Formula

Chocolate Keratin Treatment & Clarifying Brazilian
Sample Size 4oz
New Version
NEXT DAY RESULTS

Ok Original Keratin Brazilian Treatment
* The best performance of all available keratin treatments.
* Superior straightening and anti-frizz results
* Universally effective over any chemically treated hair.
* Lower prices and more heads-per-bottle mean healthier profits for you.
* Lighter product, quicker to apply and faster drying time.
* Safer product for the customer and the stylist.
* Made in the USA.

The effectiveness of our formulation is evident in its lightness.

Next Day Results!

Added ingredients to nourish and enrich the hair, increasing its suppleness and sheen.

These ingredients also improve the texture of hair that has been physically damaged by severe chemical treatment, resulting in the silkiest and most healthy-looking hair one can imagine.

4OZ bottle including Clarifying Shampoo

1.75% of Formaldehyde

FDA Approved
Use this product in a well ventilated area.

 

[Br*nzeb*mbsh~ll]

Cuteness, your hair...i have no words...no words. I'm through.

 

[Blessed2bless]

I updated my Fotki ladies with photos of the Coppola Keratin Treatment.

Okay, here is my review of CTK:

My hair doesn't feel coated at all. In fact, it feels the same way it did before I starting fooling with these treatments..lol. Was it work $175 (minus the tip) HECK no!??!! I should've waited and did this at home!!! I didn't have any issues with fumes it was like he was putting conditioner in my hair.

So far I think Softliss is the keeper for me. I'm not experimenting anymore I'm just sticking with Softliss because I love how my hair behaves with it plus it's dirt cheap and I LOVE the mask.

I'll let you all know how my hair behaves after my workouts.

Oh, I LOVE the Pureology hydrating shampoooo!!!! The Coppola Vanilla Bean Conditioner is pretty good, not work $20.00 though.

The photos the don't really do a good job of depicting the growth I've had. The longest part of my hair is now an 1" below my brastrap!! Yay!! I'm not trimming until March until I dust the ends, that's it.

Beautiful! I love your ng . I posted in my earlier post. Please read it, I had a few questions for you( or I will pm you)... All I can say is looking at you, ajj, sheba1 and cuteness hair.... I will never texlax again... BKt is the truth!

 

[Blessed2bless]

Here are my Dreamhair pics both wet and dry:

wet hair, no product

flatiron hair, a little too much coconut oil

Love Dreamhair. It is the best thing ever I did another trim. I will never make to goal of MBL, unless I put down the scissors

Your hair is beautiful! You will be mbl in no time...

 

[Dak]

I'm loving all these hair pictures!!! Veejee, your fotki, wow! Your hair is beautiful. And Cutness, your hair is growing so fast, you will make MBL, you'll just make it with nice thick ends!

 

[healthytext]

Dang it, you guys. I was going for Inoar next but now I want to try Dream Hair. I'm curious about the açaí scent.

 

[Br*nzeb*mbsh~ll]

BKT Beauties, have any of you tried ayurveda with your bkt'd hair? I am really missing my ayurvedic regime...

 

[sheba1]

It's good to be back!!! My subscription ended exactly at the time I was waiting for a new bank card and I couldn't post!!! I've missed you guys terribly.

AtlantaJJ!! your hair is getting thick!!! It's so shiny and healthy! I just know you are turning heads. Gives me great hope that with some trimming over time, I can get some fullness going on, myself. Thank you!!

Veejee, your hair is the bomb diggy!! Girl, your hair is getting long FAST. BEAUTIFULLLL!! You're going to be on the WSL train in no time!!

Cutenss, girl, you have got to start a thread with those pictures I mean, pics of that hair can not and should not be buried in this big ole thread. Please... go forth and share with the world. Gorgeous!!! Your hair is my newest hair goal. My girl...

BKT Beauties, have any of you tried ayurveda with your bkt'd hair? I am really missing my ayurvedic regime...

Hey lady, I'm doing Ayurveda right now under my wig. I'm about to do some trea braids and will continue. My hair is still soft and tangle free and straightens with ease. I remember reading that BKT is stripped with ayurveda, but my hair still seems to still have some BKT properties going on even though I haven't BKT'd since July.

I'm oiling my scalp every couple of days with a homemade shikakai garlic oil and cowashing with a cheapie con mixed with shikakai, amla and brahmi tea. I oil my hair with another homemade oil (both with a base of castor, coconut and almond oils) infused with amla, brahmi and henna.

I'm only doing ayurveda, though, because I'm hiding my hair. I figure I'll cross the road of whether to continue when I start wearing my hair out again. But by then I'll have Cutenss-like hair and I won't care