Just found out my Dad practices Deism

[tffy2004]

First I want to say thank God there is a place where I can talk to like minded individuals on this matter and not get jumped on for being confused and concerned about my dad.
Amen

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]My name is Tiffany, I am 21 been married to my husband Steven(23) for 3 years and we have two boys Steven III(2yrold) and Jordan(1yrold) who are 10.5 mths apart. We were born and raised in Texas and have live in South Dakota, Nebraska, and currently live in North Dakota and we are both full time college students. Husband plays college football!![/FONT]
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Ok Long story short, my parents had me out of wedlock, got married and divorced by the time I was about 7. My mom and her family encouraged me to not visit my dad and convinced me he was "crazy" just because things he did they didn't understand. I didn't really get back in touch with my until 2.5 years ago when my husband and I were pregnant with our first child. Since then we have been keeping in contact with each other by phone and email. Just two days ago we were on the phone talking and some how religion came up and he asked me was I 7th day adventist or Jahovah witness, I said none of them meaning none he said. So I emailed him that night explaining what I meant and that I am Christian and I read the bible and go to a non-denominational church. I also told him about my husbands career goal of playing in the NFL.[/FONT]
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]This is the email I got back from him(I had to edit some of the words for spelling errors cause he is 72 and don't even bother to use spell check)[/FONT]

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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]sugar baby, im a diest. ive practice deism since i was 20 years old; i wont even tell you what it is check it out on the web. im curious to know why you read the bible and practice chritianity?what do you know about other pholosophys, and theologys? Congratulate your husband for me on making his own choice about what he wants to do with his life.[/FONT]
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]I don't know how I should feel about this but when I went to yahoo and searched the word Deism and have a general idea of what it is as I read some of the stuff I started to literally get a headache and feel uneasy. Here is a link to one of the sites I found: [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]http://www.deism.com/deism_defined.htm[/FONT]
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Before you respond please go to the site and read some of the pages and let me know what you think. I'm not where I want to be as a Christian yet so, your input is valuable to me.

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]If there is one thing that I can not stand it is when people ask WHY ecspecially when it comes to Love and Belief in God. I mean why ask why, it is what it is, take it or leave it. And in this case I don't even know how to begin to answer why. For as long as I can remember Christianity and the Bible have been all I have known until I was in junior high and we had to learn the basis of other religions in geography classes.[/FONT]
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Please if anyone can help me in dealing with this, your help is greatly appreciated..[/FONT]
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Tiffany[/FONT]

 

[Shimmie]

Hello Tiff2004. You have such a beautiful spirit. With that said, you have more to be joyful about, even with your Dad's professed beliefs.

For as long as this earth remains, there will be summer, winter, spring and fall, and one method, belief or another that satan will use to distract and/or minimize the pure existance of Jesus Christ. Deism is only one of them. Not to worry, though. It's only a 'call' to your attention to love and to bring him in, as you would to any other who doesn't know Jesus.

Allow God to use your beautiful and loving spirit to bring your Dad in. Key words: "Allow God to use your beautiful and loving spirit to bring your Dad in." No preaching, no condemnation, no pearcing questions, just your beautiful loving spirit... That's all God wants; that's all God needs.

In Deism there is one missing main ingredient to fulfillment in this life. A personal , loving one-on-one relationship with our Savior. How many people have asked you, "What do you have? Why are you so radiant? What is the glow about you?" Tiff, this is what you have for your Dad ... let it flow from your beautiful spirit to his. Let him see the greater One, the greater love that lives on the inside of you. Let him see the peace in your life that he has been missing; but only by being you.

And fear not. For God says, "...not by might, nor by power, but by my Spirit, says the Lord." That's how God will and wants to bring your Father in...by His Spirit. Be the loving light. Get rid of all fear, defensive moods and reactions, just be you...beautiful you. God will bring him in the same as he has millions and millions of others. Just be beautiful you.

 

[tffy2004]

I really do appriciate your kind words, and I have to admit I do feel better than I did earlier after reading your post. I just need to calm down and like you said let God use me to bring my dad in. I was in a frinzy cause I love my dad very much and regret that I didn't have the time with him I could have while I was geographically close to him. I just want him feel the love of God and Jesus and be happy. I just get this motherly feeling of protection when it comes to my dad cause he is elderly, and I have already lost precious time with him, and I want him to go to heaven when his time comes.

Thanks again!!!

 

[**Tasha*Love**]

Hello Tiff2004.
Allow God to use your beautiful and loving spirit to bring your Dad in. Key words: "Allow God to use your beautiful and loving spirit to bring your Dad in." No preaching, no condemnation, no pearcing questions, just your beautiful loving spirit... That's all God wants; that's all God needs.

Shimmie's answer sums it up. I really didn't need to read about your fathers beliefs because God can overcome all of this. I would also advise you to answer your fathers question about your beliefs and reading the bible. Let him know why you read your bible and why you love your Precious God. Basically I am telling you to testify about God's goodness in your life. Make him wonder about his own beliefs. There are some people that find God thru questioning His existence. Maybe he has never had anyone to testify to him of God's love and given him a reason to want that same kind of love in his life?

 

[tffy2004]

Thank you Natasha. I am kinda nervous about going to him and explaining it to him cause no one has ever asked me questions like that. I guess I am nervous that I will say the wrong thing.

 

[**Tasha*Love**]

Just let God guide your words. Pray on this before you speak. God knows your heart and the love that you have for your father. I don't think anything that you say will be wrong. You are a strong Christian woman (I can tell from your other post) and God is simply using you for His work. Be bold and speak from the heart. You may be nervous but God is there and will be pleased in the end.

Thank you Natasha. I am kinda nervous about going to him and explaining it to him cause no one has ever asked me questions like that. I guess I am nervous that I will say the wrong thing.

 

[firecracker]

Wow this was my first time hearing about Deism. I do know a few people that share that belief system but I never knew it had a name.

 

[Blossssom]

Wow this was my first time hearing about Deism. I do know a few people that share that belief system but I never knew it had a name.

Omigoodness!

I think I've found what I've been looking for!

Thanks for posting the Deism link!

I didn't know either, Fire. This is GREAT! Finally!

 

[Blossssom]

Tiffany, you're 21 and your dad is 72? Or did I read something wrong?

 

[tffy2004]

Blossssom you read it right I am 21 and my dad is 72, he was 50 and my mom was 27 when I was born, he's got two daughters from a previous marriage that are my moms age...

 

[Blossssom]

Blossssom you read it right I am 21 and my dad is 72, he was 50 and my mom was 27 when I was born, he's got two daughters from a previous marriage that are my moms age...

I guess I can't say much. My dad is 86, and I'm 37. Heehee!

 

[firecracker]

I guess I can't say much. My dad is 86, and I'm 37. Heehee!

Ya'll daddy's was working that stickshift to the bitter end.
Errah I cannot say jack cuz I have dated men as old has my father.

 

[Blossssom]

Ya'll daddy's was working that stickshift to the bitter end.
Errah I cannot say jack cuz I have dated men as old has my father.

My mom and dad had my sister when he was 55. Heehee!

 

[tffy2004]

In school I thought I was the only person in the world that age with a dad that old.

Anyway here is the latest update. I emailed my dad letting him know that I am strong in my faith and that I am open to learning about other religions but it doesn't necessarily mean I am going to drop Christianity and pick up someting else.

Here is the message he sent me:
you got it right deism .come my sweet you cant learn about god reading the bible see if you can down load a course in miracles .com I have a copy of it have had one for over thirty five years I’m sure you can get it online now for serious business. tell steven he has he right idea about retiring a thirty five as i told you a year or so ago. you have to make your own decisions so do it if they turn out bad , redo them you learn as you go remember its alright to make mistakes alright to fail .you cant do either if you are idle doing nothing I finally got through to gill sent her email dont know yet if she got it i cant get over how much we have in common. Gill said some things about you that made me feel inadequate to be your father .basically she said you were a very intelligent girl and i should be proud which i am. I’m more astounded because she is right in her assessment of you. Ill sent you mucho about self relisation and who you really are its its all about enlightenment and spiritual growth and advancement. once you get a nose full of that, you wont be satisfied with anything else. you will be aware of your past but it wont matter the new tiffany enlightened will utterly amaze you changing your perception of God and yourself can be both frightening and enlightening as it sands you don’t know yet who you are Ill walk along with you and show you the way you will see clearly why i say theres more to laugh about than be upset about you will understand why i want you to bear down on your relationship with your mom don’t le her slip out of your life you will understand at once she may take a life time to understand Its all very simple and you will laugh as you begin to see the light for start, read jesuses sermon on the mount in matthew jesus was a diest didnt practice judiasm and couldnt be a christen Abraham the father of judism wasnt and couldnt be a jew Bhudda wasnt a bhuddist the krishna wasn’t a hindu they were all diest. as you will soon be when you come out of the coma. its the beginning of gettin enlightened you already have eternal life. this is only a short visit here happy growing daddy XXX000 I love yous

I am starting feel like I am under attack for being a Christian. Which I know thats not what he is trying to do, but why can't he just accept it and move on, I am not a confrentational type of person I try to avoid it at all cost. At this point I honestly don't know what to say to him. Except, this is what I chose to practice so lets just agree to disagree when it comes to religion.

Servin the Lord ain't easy but somebody got to do it.

 

[pebbles]

I am starting feel like I am under attack for being a Christian. Which I know thats not what he is trying to do, but why can't he just accept it and move on, I am not a confrentational type of person I try to avoid it at all cost. At this point I honestly don't know what to say to him. Except, this is what I chose to practice so lets just agree to disagree when it comes to religion.

Servin the Lord ain't easy but somebody got to do it.

Let the church say Amen!

Depending on who you ask, there are many ways to serve God. And these days, Christianity is very unpopular.

You know what you know, and that's what matters. This doesn't have to be a big issue between the two of you. Respectfully tell your father that you are very happy where you are, and the way you worship and think is NOT going to change. Wish him well, tell him you're happy that he's happy. Tell him to pray for you as you will pray for him. Then let God do the rest.

 

[Shimmie]

"Tiff", you are not under attack as a Christian. I'm rejoicing over the compliment from your Dad being so impressed and proud of you.

Guess what? "The difference you see in me is .....Jesus" That's what you tell your Daddy...and all in love. Let your light so shine.

God did not bring you to this point to see your Dad, only to defeated. Ohhhhhh, no. God has a plan that He intends to fulfill in your Dad's life.

How can I say this. Again, it happened to my Daddie. And when he passed away, he was saved. Glory to God, my Daddie was saved. I continued to live my life before him...but all in love.

My Dad had many hurts and disappointments in life. I'll share some testimonies about him some time later. But know this, the doctor's declared my father's life would end due to many diabetic seisures and him not taking care of himself responsively.

"Tiff', one day in church, my Pastor taught a message entitled, "Healing of the Passover Lamb". At the time, I didn't know that my Dad had had another seizure and he was home all alone and unable to call anyone for help. This was the one that the doctors claimed would kill him. It didn't and my Dad lived 7 years longer...long enough to be saved and long enough for me to see his heart change for God.

Don't give up or give in to fear. God has you with your Dad at such a time as this...all for His Glory. Now smile Tiff...just smile...from the heartside in and heartside out. God knows what your Dad is all about and He is not going to leave you hopeless or without victory.

Loving hugs...

 

[**Tasha*Love**]

Pebbles your answer sums up what I was thinking!

Let the church say Amen!

Depending on who you ask, there are many ways to serve God. And these days, Christianity is very unpopular.

You know what you know, and that's what matters. This doesn't have to be a big issue between the two of you. Respectfully tell your father that you are very happy where you are, and the way you worship and think is NOT going to change. Wish him well, tell him you're happy that he's happy. Tell him to pray for you as you will pray for him. Then let God do the rest.

 

[tffy2004]

Thank each and everyone of you for your kind an inspirational words. I in no way intend on letting this become a wedge between my dad and I, I pray that it bring us even closer.

You women need to seriously get a book started or even a website. I am sure that there are many out there who are going through the same thing and considering changing their faith. I guess I will have to pray on this that God see them through and they be lead by the Holy Spirit.

You ladies are like the mothers and sisters and friends I never had. Your help is greatly appriated.

God Bless You All!!!