Juanita Bynum files for divorce and...

[gradygirl]

I have read this entire thread and I usually dont post on this. I am a child of God that lost my way for a while but found my way back to him. God took me through something to get my attention and for me to get myself in order with his word. I do not in any way feel like am equipped to teach others right now until I have spent the time needed with God to get where I need to be. Every trial in my life has came to teach me first then others. The main situation that started me turning back from God was my ex - pastor and his prophetess wife tried to get me to borrow money for them by using prophesy and telling me that was the will of God. Things got really bad and I almost died spiritually. Before this happened to me I had no idea men and women of God could be that way but I thank God for opening my eyes and letting me know to keep me eyes on him and not man not matter how anointed they say they are. The bible says that if God does not shorten the time even the very elect will be fooled. I think that we should discuss topics like this because it will help people that think like I used to. The lesson I got from all of this is not judge juanita or her husband but to keep my eyes on Jesus and not man because this is the last days and many will be fooled. My prayer for this forum is that we all feel comfortable enough to voice our opinions without being told that we are wrong because we have a difference of opinion after all this is a "discussion board".
Be blessed ladies, I love all of you.

 

[He_Leads_I_follow]

I very rarely "follow" anyone's ministry but I beleive Juanita Bynum is a prophet . She is a woman of God. Unfortunaley, she got married ...to a DETRACTOR. So I stopped watching her. She completeyly changed after the union. A detractor will go far enough to marry you to take you out of the will of God. I have never heard of this man before they got married and was greatly troubled in my spirit when their marriage was announced. I remember watching him right after their announcment and thought "why do I feel like I'm being sold something I don't need?". My sister said the wedding and the ministry looks like big marketing. Like a business merger.
I was amazed to see that some one who was so separated unto God (even her brother had an anointed CD that's hard to find now) do a complete 180 into flamboyant dress and foolish talk! My sister Juanita, was duped! Eve deceived! I find it hard to beleive that not one of the sound women that walked with her back in the days (of no makeup and a white scarf around her neck), warned her that something was not right. I find it difficult to beleive that NO ONE said WAIT, NOT SO FAST!! Unless they felt they couldn't. Then again, she may have chosen to ignore it. We do have choices.

I'm sure some women may have said "Gurl it's your season. It's time for you to marry and blah blah blah ". I have yet to meet anyone who can truly guage when seasons end or begin. Just because you feel it's been long enough, is it? Is it really?

No More Sheets didn't come from out of this woman's own mind. Sorry, but strongholds can't be broken by man's fantastic ideas. And this tape swept the lives clean of those who watched it and heard what the Spirit was saying. I remember when my sister gave me the tape to watch. I wasn't saved and had a boyfriend AND I was going to church . You know, like a good "church girl"... Ugh! Say YUCK twice!

Anyway, I looked at the cover , read the back and something in me said HECK NO! I knew that if I watched that tape , I would be faced with truth I wasn't ready for. I didn't mind church because the Holy Ghost wasn't there anyway so I was never convicted to change. (ouch!) But that tape??!! Mmmmmm nah! Never...or so I thought.

But one day, the Holy Spirit called me to Himself 3am in the morning and I gave my life to Christ in my bedroom. Sometime after that I watched the tape. Haven't been the same since....

From soundness to flat out error. Yes, that is what has happened BUT the FANTASTIC, AWESOME TRUTH is she is REDEEMABLE!!! They both are. As long as they are still alive. Humble yourself under the mighty hand of God and HE will exalt you in DUE season. LOVELY!

To the sister who said God is shaking things up? INDEED HE IS. I have been hearing that for awhile from HIM. He said He was releasing His judgement and He must. It's far better to be chastened by the Almighty to spare you and others eternal judgement. He will have no part of sin so He has to purge it. Purge it out of me and purge it out of you. HE's coming back for a clean church. That's all. Our opinions don't matter just His divine Word that He holds above even His own name.

Oh and yes there is a MASS ATTACK against marriages indeed. The judgement that is happening in the public eye will be going house to house. It will reach all of our churches . It has to. The dross has to go so He can bring forth the gold.

When you do pray for marriages and all those in leadership, pray the Lord would be gracious enough to send them a "Nathan". A prophet to convict before it's too late. It's time out for soft prophets with giddy words! We need the voice of the sharp prophets that keep your spirtual eyesight at 20/20.

 

[Blossssom]

he just posted a statement on his myspace page saying that they agreed not to talk about it until they went to court about it. Now she's hosted TBN's "Praise the Lord", talked to the news and everything!

Oops!

And she's after Obama Barack!

 

[atlien]

I very rarely "follow" anyone's ministry but I beleive Juanita Bynum is a prophet . She is a woman of God. Unfortunaley, she got married ...to a DETRACTOR. So I stopped watching her. She completeyly changed after the union. A detractor will go far enough to marry you to take you out of the will of God. I have never heard of this man before they got married and was greatly troubled in my spirit when their marriage was announced. I remember watching him right after their announcment and thought "why do I feel like I'm being sold something I don't need?". My sister said the wedding and the ministry looks like big marketing. Like a business merger.
I was amazed to see that some one who was so separated unto God (even her brother had an anointed CD that's hard to find now) do a complete 180 into flamboyant dress and foolish talk! My sister Juanita, was duped! Eve deceived! I find it hard to beleive that not one of the sound women that walked with her back in the days (of no makeup and a white scarf around her neck), warned her that something was not right. I find it difficult to beleive that NO ONE said WAIT, NOT SO FAST!! Unless they felt they couldn't. Then again, she may have chosen to ignore it. We do have choices.

I'm sure some women may have said "Gurl it's your season. It's time for you to marry and blah blah blah ". I have yet to meet anyone who can truly guage when seasons end or begin. Just because you feel it's been long enough, is it? Is it really?

No More Sheets didn't come from out of this woman's own mind. Sorry, but strongholds can't be broken by man's fantastic ideas. And this tape swept the lives clean of those who watched it and heard what the Spirit was saying. I remember when my sister gave me the tape to watch. I wasn't saved and had a boyfriend AND I was going to church . You know, like a good "church girl"... Ugh! Say YUCK twice!

Anyway, I looked at the cover , read the back and something in me said HECK NO! I knew that if I watched that tape , I would be faced with truth I wasn't ready for. I didn't mind church because the Holy Ghost wasn't there anyway so I was never convicted to change. (ouch!) But that tape??!! Mmmmmm nah! Never...or so I thought.

But one day, the Holy Spirit called me to Himself 3am in the morning and I gave my life to Christ in my bedroom. Sometime after that I watched the tape. Haven't been the same since....

From soundness to flat out error. Yes, that is what has happened BUT the FANTASTIC, AWESOME TRUTH is she is REDEEMABLE!!! They both are. As long as they are still alive. Humble yourself under the mighty hand of God and HE will exalt you in DUE season. LOVELY!

To the sister who said God is shaking things up? INDEED HE IS. I have been hearing that for awhile from HIM. He said He was releasing His judgement and He must. It's far better to be chastened by the Almighty to spare you and others eternal judgement. He will have no part of sin so He has to purge it. Purge it out of me and purge it out of you. HE's coming back for a clean church. That's all. Our opinions don't matter just His divine Word that He holds above even His own name.

Oh and yes there is a MASS ATTACK against marriages indeed. The judgement that is happening in the public eye will be going house to house. It will reach all of our churches . It has to. The dross has to go so He can bring forth the gold.

When you do pray for marriages and all those in leadership, pray the Lord would be gracious enough to send them a "Nathan". A prophet to convict before it's too late. It's time out for soft prophets with giddy words! We need the voice of the sharp prophets that keep your spirtual eyesight at 20/20.

I really liked reading your post. Something about it gave me chills. I think it was around the part where you gave your life to god at 3am. I know how the spirit will wake you up late in the midnight hours. I have been there.

As far as Juanita, I just feel disappointed about the entire situation, but I do believe Juanita is a prophet. One thing Juanita said stands true... God will get the glory from this. His purpose will be fulfilled.

 

[He_Leads_I_follow]

I really liked reading your post. Something about it gave me chills. I think it was around the part where you gave your life to god at 3am. I know how the spirit will wake you up late in the midnight hours. I have been there.

As far as Juanita, I just feel disappointed about the entire situation, but I do believe Juanita is a prophet. One thing Juanita said stands true... God will get the glory from this. His purpose will be fulfilled.

Thanks Atlien! Yes, He shall indeed cause ALL things to work together for the GOOD of them that LOVE Him and are CALLED according to His purpose. And she does indeed fit this criteria.
Great Blessings to you!

 

[babydollhair]

has anyone posted this? This footage from the last Women on the Frontline Conference in August and well, it looks like she might of had planned...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=0uXTbZMb9tU

 

[Shimmie]

I very rarely "follow" anyone's ministry but I beleive Juanita Bynum is a prophet . She is a woman of God. Unfortunaley, she got married ...to a DETRACTOR. So I stopped watching her. She completeyly changed after the union. A detractor will go far enough to marry you to take you out of the will of God. I have never heard of this man before they got married and was greatly troubled in my spirit when their marriage was announced. I remember watching him right after their announcment and thought "why do I feel like I'm being sold something I don't need?". My sister said the wedding and the ministry looks like big marketing. Like a business merger.

I was amazed to see that some one who was so separated unto God (even her brother had an anointed CD that's hard to find now) do a complete 180 into flamboyant dress and foolish talk! My sister Juanita, was duped! Eve deceived! I find it hard to beleive that not one of the sound women that walked with her back in the days (of no makeup and a white scarf around her neck), warned her that something was not right. I find it difficult to beleive that NO ONE said WAIT, NOT SO FAST!! Unless they felt they couldn't. Then again, she may have chosen to ignore it. We do have choices.

I'm sure some women may have said "Gurl it's your season. It's time for you to marry and blah blah blah ". I have yet to meet anyone who can truly guage when seasons end or begin. Just because you feel it's been long enough, is it? Is it really?

No More Sheets didn't come from out of this woman's own mind. Sorry, but strongholds can't be broken by man's fantastic ideas. And this tape swept the lives clean of those who watched it and heard what the Spirit was saying. I remember when my sister gave me the tape to watch. I wasn't saved and had a boyfriend AND I was going to church . You know, like a good "church girl"... Ugh! Say YUCK twice!

Anyway, I looked at the cover , read the back and something in me said HECK NO! I knew that if I watched that tape , I would be faced with truth I wasn't ready for. I didn't mind church because the Holy Ghost wasn't there anyway so I was never convicted to change. (ouch!) But that tape??!! Mmmmmm nah! Never...or so I thought.

But one day, the Holy Spirit called me to Himself 3am in the morning and I gave my life to Christ in my bedroom. Sometime after that I watched the tape. Haven't been the same since....

From soundness to flat out error. Yes, that is what has happened BUT the FANTASTIC, AWESOME TRUTH is she is REDEEMABLE!!! They both are. As long as they are still alive. Humble yourself under the mighty hand of God and HE will exalt you in DUE season. LOVELY!

To the sister who said God is shaking things up? INDEED HE IS. I have been hearing that for awhile from HIM. He said He was releasing His judgement and He must. It's far better to be chastened by the Almighty to spare you and others eternal judgement. He will have no part of sin so He has to purge it. Purge it out of me and purge it out of you. HE's coming back for a clean church. That's all. Our opinions don't matter just His divine Word that He holds above even His own name.

Oh and yes there is a MASS ATTACK against marriages indeed. The judgement that is happening in the public eye will be going house to house. It will reach all of our churches . It has to. The dross has to go so He can bring forth the gold.

When you do pray for marriages and all those in leadership, pray the Lord would be gracious enough to send them a "Nathan". A prophet to convict before it's too late. It's time out for soft prophets with giddy words! We need the voice of the sharp prophets that keep your spirtual eyesight at 20/20.

You have a beautiful testimony. For our God is faithful to keep watch over us and He is married to the 'Backslider.' He will lovingly stand watch, guarding those He loves for whom He has Destiny and Purpose and to fulfill His plan...He's our God forever and we can not be 'plucked' from out of His hand.

How I love Him and trust Him ...

God bless you for sharing God's love for you. It's beautiful. Can't you just see how He waited for you so patiently...until He captured your heart again. :heart2:

 

[Sistaslick]

What exactly does it take to become a prophet or prophetess?

 

[Shimmie]

What exactly does it take to become a prophet or prophetess?

The 'Call' of God ...

Therefore, no one 'becomes' a Phophet, they have to be 'called' of God.

It's not an easy life for the one 'called'. God 'proves' them by many trials, tests, and sacrifices. It can also be a very lonely and isolated life; for the one 'called' has to spend much time in isolation, consecration and alienation, separated from the world as others 'know' it and be sold out to what God instructs. This time of isolation and consecration develops a flow of the annointing, meaning that the Phophet (called) is ready at any given moment (night or day) to do as God directs and orders them to do/say.

A Phophet presents a great threat to satan, for a Phophet has the boldness of God to stand against the enemy and to expose him where he's residing or planning an attack in a person's or Church's life.

This one of the reasons, satan looks for way to get at their weakness(es); for every human being has a weak nature; the sins of the flesh. If satan can discredit a Phophet of God, then he won a battle, for it brings doubt of the Phophet's word and satan is then able to proceed with a plan of action to destroy a person's faith, their hope, their love and in many cases their love for God and even endanger their lives.

This is why we HAVE to have a realtionship with God and to keep our mouths shut against men/women of God so that we can hear what God is speaking to us. When we speak 'against' one 'called' of God, it blocks the flow of God's ministry to us. It also creates a sequence of events where what we speak against comes back as though it were bouncing off of a wall upon the one speaking. God says to guard our tongues and to judge not least we be judged in the same manner.

There's a lot more, but I hope this helps...

 

[Southernbella.]

This is why we HAVE to have a realtionship with God and to keep our mouths shut against men/women o
f God so that we can hear what God is speaking to us. When we speak 'against' one 'called' of God, it blocks the flow of God's ministry to us. It also creates a sequence of events where what we speak against comes back as though it were bouncing off of a wall upon the one speaking. God says to guard our tongues and to judge not least we be judged in the same manner.

What about these scriptures? It seems to me that we are to use righteous judgement within the church. That is how we know who among us is a false teacher and separate from them.

1 Cor 5:9-13
9I have written you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— 10not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. 11But now I am writing you that you must not associate with anyone who calls himself a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a slanderer, a drunkard or a swindler. With such a man do not even eat.
12What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? 13God will judge those outside. "Expel the wicked man from among you."


John 7:24
24Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.


2 Thessalonians 3:14,15
And if anyone does not obey our word in this epistle, note that person and do not keep company with him, that he may be ashamed. Yet do not count him as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother


Romans 16:17,18
Now I urge you, brethren, note those who cause divisions and offenses, contrary to the doctrine which you learned, and avoid them. For those who are such do not serve our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly, and by smooth words and flattering speech deceive the hearts of the simple

 

[Shimmie]

What about these scriptures? It seems to me that we are to use righteous judgement within the church. That is how we know who among us is a false teacher and separate from them.

1 Cor 5:9-13
9I have written you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— 10not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. 11But now I am writing you that you must not associate with anyone who calls himself a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a slanderer, a drunkard or a swindler. With such a man do not even eat.
12What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? 13God will judge those outside. "Expel the wicked man from among you."


John 7:24
24Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.


2 Thessalonians 3:14,15
And if anyone does not obey our word in this epistle, note that person and do not keep company with him, that he may be ashamed. Yet do not count him as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother


Romans 16:17,18
Now I urge you, brethren, note those who cause divisions and offenses, contrary to the doctrine which you learned, and avoid them. For those who are such do not serve our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly, and by smooth words and flattering speech deceive the hearts of the simple

These scriptures do not validate the harshness against Juanita Bynum which has been expressed in the Christianity forum. I can easily see it occurring in the ENT or the OT forum, but here, in the Christianity forum, it's wrong.

What's happening in the Christianity forum in the threads about Juanita Bynum is not righteous judgement. The matter is not being discussed and handled God's way. There are several comments and posts in this forum which should not be among Christians. The 'spirit' behind them are not right. It is being done in a manner in which God instructs us not to do;

Many are using this an 'excuse' to 'mouth-off' against a sister/brother in Christ who instead need our prayers and not cruel remarks, and condemnation. Where is the exhortation which we are commanded to give to a brother/sister who has fallen? Where is the love? Where is the compassion?

If anything, this is the one place where Juanita Bynum and her husband should be able to find words that do not judge nor condemn them. There's plenty of it in ENT, OT and all over the media. Why here too, where we are to be full of love.

Granted, we are not to 'allow' certain behaviors among the brethren, yet we do not discuss it and attack as the world does. There is a difference.

No one is exempt from 'falling'...no one. And no one, including you or myself can throw stones at a fallen brother/sister such as these (Bynum and Weeks) and call it righteous. It's wrong and there is no other way to describe it. What's happening in these threads, in the Christianity forum, regarding the lives of these two persons, is wrong. And I have to say that I am grieved and ashamed of what I've been witness to in many of these posts regarding Juanita.

What if it were you? It could be one day; for the seeds of judgement have been planted and watered with your defense. What if it were you? As David judged himself with his response to the Phophet Nathan (regarding Bathsheba's husband), so have you judged yourself with the scriptures.

I realize the hurt, the anger, the confusion, the disappointments, and the fears, that so many are feeling regarding Bishop and Juanita Weeks. It's very sad and it has hurt the Body of Christ. But it does not give us license to mix our grief with the world's view. For the world views all of us who call ourselves Christians as their enemy. When we speak their same language or engage ourselves to it, we are only adding to our hurt which they purpose against all Christians.

And before I am accused of being a fan of Juanita Bynum, let it be known that I am a fan of the Lord Jesus Christ and non other. For Lauren if this were you or anyone else in this forum being talked about as such, I would step up and defend you too. Without fear, shame or hesitation, I would step up to your defense and dare anyone to try and stop me.

Why? Because you are my 'sister' in Christ and I care enough to protect you when you are down. Defending is not advocating a fallen brother's/sister's 'wrong'; yet it's wrong to let you be attacked.

We cannot behave as the world does with situations such as this. It only comes back to hurt us and not them. And more, it grieves the heart of our Father in Heaven.

With all of my heart, I wish you peace.... :heart2:

 

[Southernbella.]

These scriptures do not validate the harshness against Juanita Bynum which has been expressed in the Christianity forum. I can easily see it occurring in the ENT or the OT forum, but here, in the Christianity forum, it's wrong.

What's happening in the Christianity forum in the threads about Juanita Bynum is not righteous judgement. The matter is not being discussed and handled God's way. There are several comments and posts in this forum which should not be among Christians. The 'spirit' behind them are not right. It is being done in a manner in which God instructs us not to do;

Many are using this an 'excuse' to 'mouth-off' against a sister/brother in Christ who instead need our prayers and not cruel remarks, and condemnation. Where is the exhortation which we are commanded to give to a brother/sister who has fallen? Where is the love? Where is the compassion?

If anything, this is the one place where Juanita Bynum and her husband can find words that do not judge nor condemn. There's plenty of it in ENT, OT and all over the media. Why here too, where we are to be full of love.

Granted, we are not to 'allow' certain behaviors among the brethren, yet we do not discuss it and attack as the world does. There is a difference.

No one is exempt from 'falling'...no one. And no one, including you or myself can throw stones at a fallen brother/sister such as these (Bynum and Weeks) and call it righteous. It's wrong and there is no other way to describe it. What's happening in these threads, in the Christianity forum, regarding the lives of these two persons, is wrong. And I have to say that I am grieved and ashamed of what I've been witness to in many of these posts regarding Juanita.

What if it were you? It could be one day; for the seeds of judgement have been planted and watered with your defense. What if it were you? As David judged himself with his response to the Phophet Nathan (regarding Bathsheba's husband), so have you judged yourself with the scriptures.

I realize the hurt, the anger, the confusion, the disappointments, and the fears, that so many are feeling regarding Bishop and Juanita Weeks. It's very sad and it has hurt the Body of Christ. But it does not give us license to mix our grief with the world's view. For the world views all of us who call ourselves Christians as their enemy. When we speak their same language or engage ourselves to it, we are only adding to our hurt which they purpose against all Christians.

And before I am accused of being a fan of Juanita Bynum, let it be known that I am a fan of the Lord Jesus Christ and non other. For Lauren if this were you or anyone else in this forum being talked about as such, I would step up and defend you too. Without fear, shame or hesitation, I would step up to your defense and dare anyone to try and stop me.

Why? Because you are my 'sister' in Christ and I care enough to protect you when you are down. Defending is not advocating a fallen brother's/sister's 'wrong'; yet it's wrong to let you be attacked.

We cannot behave as the world does with situations such as this. It only comes back to hurt us and not them. And more, it grieves the heart of our Father in Heaven.

With all of my heart, I wish you peace.... :heart2:

Shimmie, I know you mean well. I believe you are sincere in your defense of the Weeks'.

If it were me, in this exact same situation, I wouldn't expect you to defend me or shut down the discussion. Why? Because by now, it would have been clear that I had been lying, deceiving, and leading others away from Christ, instead of toward him. Can we really call these people brothers? The Bible says we are to separate from them. That's not to say the any of us are perfect, but we cannot sit idly by and watch other Christians, leaders at that, mislead others and not call it out.

We always like to say "touch not mine annointed" when it comes to leaders, but the truth is, everyone for whom Christ is Lord is annointed. All of us were called by God. We are all brothers. That's it, that's the bottom line.

I agree that we are not to behave like the world when it comes to these matters, but I've never seen the world line up words and deeds with scripture to judge righteously, which is what has been happening on this forum. Look at Jesus' words to the Pharisees...

Matt 23:27-29 Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like whitewashed tombs which indeed appear beautiful outwardly, but inside are full of dead men's bones and all uncleanness. Even so you also outwardly appear righteous to men, but inside you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness.

Jesus also called people wicked, snakes, fools, vipers, adulterers, and rebuked them, such that the Bible says they were offended. Was Jesus being like the world? No, he was speaking the truth in love. And even though some people on this forum are offended that the issue is being discussed, the truth must be spoken.

I wish you peace as well.

 

[envybeauty]

Now hold up sista. I have to say this in defense of JB, she does give back to the community. For instance, remember when she had that multimillion dollar wedding? Wasn't she kind enough to have it recorded and sold to those poor, unfortunate souls, like myself, who couldn't afford to be there in person? That really made me feel special, almost like I was on the back pew by the bathroom. I mean, really, if that's not giving back to the community then I don't know what is...

**Disclaimer: I am not responsible for how my posts are interpreted or received.**

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[StrawberryQueen]

What's happening in the Christianity forum in the threads about Juanita Bynum is not righteous judgement. The matter is not being discussed and handled God's way. There are several comments and posts in this forum which should not be among Christians. The 'spirit' behind them are not right. It is being done in a manner in which God instructs us not to do;

No one is exempt from 'falling'...no one. And no one, including you or myself can throw stones at a fallen brother/sister such as these (Bynum and Weeks) and call it righteous. It's wrong and there is no other way to describe it. What's happening in these threads, in the Christianity forum, regarding the lives of these two persons, is wrong. And I have to say that I am grieved and ashamed of what I've been witness to in many of these posts regarding Juanita.

Why is it though, that this type of sympathy and compassion is only reserved for "highly favored" people? Shouldn't we-as Christians-give the same type of judgement to all? It is so suprising to me how people are treating Juanita, yet I've seen this situation play out in this forum before and people were figurativly stoned to death.

 

[StrawberryQueen]

What about these scriptures? It seems to me that we are to use righteous judgement within the church. That is how we know who among us is a false teacher and separate from them.

1 Cor 5:9-13
9I have written you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— 10not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. 11But now I am writing you that you must not associate with anyone who calls himself a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a slanderer, a drunkard or a swindler. With such a man do not even eat.
12What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? 13God will judge those outside. "Expel the wicked man from among you."


John 7:24
24Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.


2 Thessalonians 3:14,15
And if anyone does not obey our word in this epistle, note that person and do not keep company with him, that he may be ashamed. Yet do not count him as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother


Romans 16:17,18
Now I urge you, brethren, note those who cause divisions and offenses, contrary to the doctrine which you learned, and avoid them. For those who are such do not serve our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly, and by smooth words and flattering speech deceive the hearts of the simple

Can't argue with the Word! :notworthy Well said Lauren.

 

[MzRhonda]

What about these scriptures? It seems to me that we are to use righteous judgement within the church. That is how we know who among us is a false teacher and separate from them.

1 Cor 5:9-13
9I have written you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— 10not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. 11But now I am writing you that you must not associate with anyone who calls himself a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a slanderer, a drunkard or a swindler. With such a man do not even eat.
12What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? 13God will judge those outside. "Expel the wicked man from among you."


John 7:24
24Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.


2 Thessalonians 3:14,15
And if anyone does not obey our word in this epistle, note that person and do not keep company with him, that he may be ashamed. Yet do not count him as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother


Romans 16:17,18
Now I urge you, brethren, note those who cause divisions and offenses, contrary to the doctrine which you learned, and avoid them. For those who are such do not serve our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly, and by smooth words and flattering speech deceive the hearts of the simple

Wow that is dead on!

 

[Shimmie]

I wish you peace as well.

Thanks Lauren...no hard feelings.

 

[babydollhair]

Shimmie, I know you mean well. I believe you are sincere in your defense of the Weeks'.

If it were me, in this exact same situation, I wouldn't expect you to defend me or shut down the discussion. Why? Because by now, it would have been clear that I had been lying, deceiving, and leading others away from Christ, instead of toward him. Can we really call these people brothers? The Bible says we are to separate from them. That's not to say the any of us are perfect, but we cannot sit idly by and watch other Christians, leaders at that, mislead others and not call it out.

We always like to say "touch not mine annointed" when it comes to leaders, but the truth is, everyone for whom Christ is Lord is annointed. All of us were called by God. We are all brothers. That's it, that's the bottom line.

I agree that we are not to behave like the world when it comes to these matters, but I've never seen the world line up words and deeds with scripture to judge righteously, which is what has been happening on this forum. Look at Jesus' words to the Pharisees...

Matt 23:27-29 Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like whitewashed tombs which indeed appear beautiful outwardly, but inside are full of dead men's bones and all uncleanness. Even so you also outwardly appear righteous to men, but inside you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness.

Jesus also called people wicked, snakes, fools, vipers, adulterers, and rebuked them, such that the Bible says they were offended. Was Jesus being like the world? No, he was speaking the truth in love. And even though some people on this forum are offended that the issue is being discussed, the truth must be spoken.

I wish you peace as well.

This is a good post. Truely well stated.

 

[Shimmie]

Why is it though, that this type of sympathy and compassion is only reserved for "highly favored" people? Shouldn't we-as Christians-give the same type of judgement to all? It is so suprising to me how people are treating Juanita, yet I've seen this situation play out in this forum before and people were figurativly stoned to death.

You missed this from the very same post...

And before I am accused of being a fan of Juanita Bynum, let it be known that I am a fan of the Lord Jesus Christ and non other. For Lauren if this were you or anyone else in this forum being talked about as such, I would step up and defend you too. Without fear, shame or hesitation, I would step up to your defense and dare anyone to try and stop me.

Why? Because you are my 'sister' in Christ and I care enough to protect you when you are down. Defending is not advocating a fallen brother's/sister's 'wrong'; yet it's wrong to let you be attacked.

We cannot behave as the world does with situations such as this. It only comes back to hurt us and not them. And more, it grieves the heart of our Father in Heaven.

With all of my heart, I wish you peace.... :heart2:

I would stand for you as well...

 

[He_Leads_I_follow]

You have a beautiful testimony. For our God is faithful to keep watch over us and He is married to the 'Backslider.' He will lovingly stand watch, guarding those He loves for whom He has Destiny and Purpose and to fulfill His plan...He's our God forever and we can not be 'plucked' from out of His hand.

How I love Him and trust Him ...

God bless you for sharing God's love for you. It's beautiful. Can't you just see how He waited for you so patiently...until He captured your heart again. :heart2:

Thank you sister. Actually I wasn't a backslider because I wasn't saved. I only went to church because my mother made me go. Not until that New Years morning did I hear the call of the Spirit and said YES. Bless the Lord for ears to hear and heart to accept the call of the Master! AMEN!

Have a Blessed week Shimmie !

 

[Shimmie]

Thank you sister. Actually I wasn't a backslider because I wasn't saved. I only went to church because my mother made me go. Not until that New Years morning did I hear the call of the Spirit and said YES. Bless the Lord for ears to hear and heart to accept the call of the Master! AMEN!

Have a Blessed week Shimmie !

You too angel...

 

[mkh_77]

For Lauren if this were you or anyone else in this forum being talked about as such, I would step up and defend you too. Without fear, shame or hesitation, I would step up to your defense and dare anyone to try and stop me.

Why? Because you are my 'sister' in Christ and I care enough to protect you when you are down. Defending is not advocating a fallen brother's/sister's 'wrong'; yet it's wrong to let you be attacked.

We cannot behave as the world does with situations such as this. It only comes back to hurt us and not them. And more, it grieves the heart of our Father in Heaven.

It would be nice to see what you have described being practiced. I guess sometimes it's harder to do it than it is to speak of it. However, I can't see the wrong in presenting and learning from the facts of what has happened, especially when J. Bynum and W. Weeks are making their situation open to the public.

 

[texasqt]

Never mind. I must learn to stop hitting a dead roach.

 

[Shimmie]

Never mind. I must learn to stop hitting a dead roach.

I thought your original message spoke volumns of sincerity. I wish you has left it.

There is a difference between discussion of a matter as opposed to 'attacking' a person or making nasty remarks (re: The Obama post).

Your post did not offend or attack. You spoke truth. And I have it word for word in my email. You are absolutely correct about their books. I have them; I even have a personal autographed copy by Bishop Weeks...yes it's really his .

Texasqt. Your words have not gone unheeded nor were they in vain. I read them and said thank you, Lord.

Take care...

 

[texasqt]

I thought your original message spoke volumns of sincerity. I wish you has left it.

There is a difference between discussion of a matter as opposed to 'attacking' a person or making nasty remarks (re: The Obama post).

Your post did not offend or attack. You spoke truth. And I have it word for word in my email. You are absolutely correct about their books. I have them; I even have a personal autographed copy by Bishop Weeks...yes it's really his .

Texasqt. Your words have not gone unheeded nor were they in vain. I read them and said thank you, Lord.

Take care...

Just kidding...
Thanks!

 

[Shimmie]

Just kidding...
Thanks!

You're welcome. It's in my email if you want it.