Joan from girlfriends has a silkner?

[FlowerHair]

I'm pretty sure I've read somewhere that she has a texturiser, but also that she has an extensive daily hair regimen which sounds somewhat like the shingling method.

Shalom, welcome to the forum. I wish I had a perfect complexion like Tracee...

 

[honeisos]

I dont want to get too personal but if dont mind what nationality/ethicity(sp?)/or race are you mixed with?? I never seen someone who was half black/half white without whatever type hair TER has. My stepsisters hair is the same texture and her mom and dad are black with her moms mom being bi-racial and her dad straight up black. So she the 3rd generation and her hair curls when you wet it. Im not familiar with the whole texture chart so thats why I described it like that.

I'm half black and Puerto rican .. My dad has very kink coils my mom has a 2a hair ...

all of my sisters have diff. tex of hair .. from 3a to 4a...

 

[honeisos]

oopps............

 

[A.Marie]

The silkner is a great thing to have. I get my hair silkened when I go to my hairdresser and even do it at home. My hair used to be so heavy, but now it feels light and bouncy. It also repels humidity and feels like silk.

 

[asummertyme]

andretta..what do u use to silken you hair?

 

[Divastate]

I'm trying to find the article that talked about her having a silkener. I did find this old article with her extensive hair routine:

Girlfriend's Got Style!

Posted on Jan. 23, 2002 -- Meet Tracee Ellis Ross, a woman whose personality is much too big to fit on the small screen but without whom our Monday TV nights would be a lot smaller. We can't get enough of Joan, Ross' character on UPN's "Girlfriends." It's all about Joan's crazy sense of humor, her never ending/sometimes successful quest for love, and most of all (and most important), her fabulous clothes. On and off the screen, no one on network television can compete with Ms. Ross in the style department with her sense of elegance and originality. We just had to catch up with her to find out how her look comes together in front of and away from the camera. Plus, you guys told us you were dying to know how she cares for that big ole' healthy head of curly hair. We sat down with Tracee to talk about her daily beauty routine and her passion...clothes! Get the dish.

BET.com: Maintaining curly hair is almost a science. Our users are dying to know how you maintain your beautiful hair.

Tracee Ellis Ross: It's a long process; it's taken me years to figure out. Look at old pictures, look at old episodes of "Lyricist Lounge" on MTV if you have tapes, look on [Lifetime's] "The Dish," the hair was not the same. It's been a process to figure it out and it was a nightmare growing up.

BET.com: So, what exactly is your hair routine like?

TER: Once a week, usually on a Sunday, my trick is that I go to the steam room and I fill my hair up with conditioner. There's three different conditioners that I'll use, that's my deep conditioning day. I wash it once a week, sometimes twice depending on how many products we've put in my hair because if you wash it too much it gets dry. There's a really cheap product called Hair Mayonnaise, it's an organic product that you can buy at health food stores. It's a big tub and it's like a hair growth product [and] really good conditioner. Rene Furterer makes a conditioner called Karite Nourishing Conditioning Cream for dry hair ($22, 3.4 oz.). It's expensive but good, but I say that the Hair Mayonnaise is just as good and cheap.

In terms of products to get my hair curly during the week, the trick is the Denman brush, a D4 ($17) or the industrial one, it's the key to curls. [While in the shower,] wet your hair, fill it up with conditioner. I split my hair into six sections, bottom section split it in two, brush it over the shoulder, next section, brush it over the shoulder, etc. Leave the conditioner in. After I've brushed it out, I put a little more conditioner in my hair and (shaking the hair gently) I try to make the curls happen. You can see them develop at that point. Put the hair up in a clip, wash the body, do what you gotta do, rinse it out.
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Here's another trick -- cold water. I know it's hard; it'll take your breath away, but cold water and low water pressure, because high water pressure breaks up the curls you've already found. Then, while the hair's still sopping wet I put in Aveda Elixer Daily Leave-On Hair Conditioner ($9.50, 8.5 fl oz.). In the bottom half of my hair, I know it's crazy but it works, I mix J.F. Lazartigue Pre-Shampoo Cream with Shea Butter ($51, 6.8 oz.), which is really expensive, but you use a small amount, with a little bit of KMS Hair Stay Styling Gel (1-800-832-3347). If I'm not working or going on camera I don't use gel because gel dries the hair out. And on the top half of my hair, because it's lighter and the shea butter weighs it down, I put Lazartigue Deep Action Treatment with Carrot Oil ($52, 5.08 fl oz.) with a little of the KMS gel.

BET.com: Wow, that's a crazy routine!

TER: It's a friggin' nightmare. There's no room for a guy in my shower. You know when you get out of the shower and you've got those ringlets? You want to keep them. So when your hair is wet, that's when you put the products in. If I want the best hair, I don't use a diffuser. After my hair is completely dry I stretch it out because after it dries the curls shrink up. I stretch it out with a blow dryer but I use as little heat on my hair as possible.

BET.com: Can you share some of your favorite beauty products?

TER: Here are some of the products I swear by. Neutrogena Lip Moisturizer. I've been using it since high school. Mascara, I use Lancome and then I use Lancome conditioner underneath and then I use the Definicils mascara. And I like it cakey! Every makeup artist goes, "Do you wanna brush that out?" and I'm like, "No, I don't! I like it so it looks like a bunch of spiders on my eyes." I don't know, very old style. I don't really wear foundation, but I just turned 30 and I gotta say under-eye concealer is necessary when you're gonna be on camera.
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BET.com: We're pressed to see what you wear on "Girlfriends" each week, how have you developed your unique style and who are your favorite designers?

TER: For me clothing is an art. It's one of my forms of expression. I've always loved clothing from the time I was a little girl. My mom (singer Diana Ross) thought I was going to be a fashion designer. I was always up in her closets.

I never have a favorite [designer], it always changes. I can't stand stuff that other people have. It really freaks me out because I'm always trying to pave my own little way. I love things that are different and quirky. In terms of designers right now, Stella McCartney is just the bomb. Her store is extraordinary. I'm a huge fan of Fred Segal in L.A. I love vintage clothing. I've been a lover of shopping since I was a young girl and it's not shopping -- like I just buy, buy, buy -- it's about the edit and the hunt.

BET.com: Do you have any advice for the BET.com community on how they can develop their own style?

TER: The key for everybody is to pull stuff out of magazines, know what you're looking for, get your taste specific and for me it's always about buying pieces that last. I try really hard not to buy pieces that are going to be cool for the moment. I've figured out what looks good on me so I still wear stuff from high school. As I said these boots (vintage Manolo Blahnik's that blow the new Tim's out of the water!), I stole them from my mom four years ago and I've been wearing them ever since, the same with the [original Manolo Blahnik] Tim's, I stole them a longtime ago and I just kind of repeat everything. The other key to shopping, put it on hold. If you think about it go back, if you don't, don't. Impulse buying, it's useless.

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[balisi]

Thanks for posting that, Divastate

 

[Almondjoy]

Thanks for re-posting that BET article.

Last year's November's issue of Black Hair and Braids also lists out each of the women of Girlfriend's hair regimens. It states some of the same things from the article earlier listed but also a little more. It reads:

Q:Off set, how do you care for your hair?

A-Tracee: I wash my hair once a week. I use a couple different shampoos. Once a month, I use the Aveda Shampure and at the same time I'll also rinse with the Rene Furterer Vinegar Rinse. But if you don't want to spend that much you can use apple cider vinegar and cut it with water. Your hair will shine, but you can't use it all the time because it will dry your hair out. On a regular basis, I use the Gold Wells Conditioning Shampoo. On a weekly basis, one of my beauty secrets is that I steam. I go to one of the Korean day spas. I fill my hair up with Gold Well Kerasilk Conditioner-that conditioner is fantastic for conditioning hair under a heating cap, which I do if I can't get into a steam room. With the Kerasilk, your hair will not curl up. My hair gets so soft that it doesn't curl up, so I have to use another conditioner. The other is very expensive but you get a lot for your money. It's called Hair Mayonnaise. It is a growth enhancer. It's an organic company. It comes in a big tube. I's a really good deep conditioner. Then, when I want my best hair I'll use Denman D-4 brush or the salon industrial heavy brush. I am an advocate of Denman brushes. It is a rubber brush. The older it gets the better because it has gotten softer. I also use the Cherry Almond Burnt Conditioner by Aveda. I mix with a little of the Deep Penetrating Conditioning from Aveda for the smell. And, I seperate my hair into six sections in order to brush it out. So, I don't break my hair. And you start from the bottom. The way your mom taught you. I do this in the shower. I put more conditioner in my hair, shake my hair so my curls can find each other, and take my hair up with a big clip. Leave it in for a while, then, I turn off all the hot water and turn up the cold water. Put the cold water on low pressure because the high pressure will break up all the curls that just found each other. The low pressure cold water keeps it shiny and keeps the curl.

Q: What is the best hair care advise you've ever been given that you could share with our readrs?

A:Condition, Condition, and Condition! And stay away from alcohol-based products. It just dries your hair out.



I love her hair--she is truly my hair inspiration!

 

[dominicana]

my mom didnt even know how to do my hair, she just chopped it off into a afro..thats why i learned very early how to do my own napps..lol

Oh my god!!! All this time I thought I was the ONLY one who had to suffer this. I feel you, girl!!! 9 years old and all the substitute teachers thought I was a boy!

The lady at the salon kept begging my mother not to cut it off, that I had beautiful hair, my poor mother, she was so frustrated, had absolutely no idea what to do with me and my napps :}

 

[asummertyme]

o my gosh girl..u must be my soul sista...my mom chopped my hair off..and i begged her not to do it..i cried and screamed...i will never forget it..she chopped it with sewing scissors...u know those big shears with the orange handle...o the pain..i think thats why i am funny with my hair to this day...o the trauma...lol

 

[Honeyhips]

What have you used?


. I just want her hair cut. I think that is what has made a world of difference.

SO true! That's why, since coming to this board, I really believe all hair can be good hair. My dd has 4z (okay 4b hair) and I always thought, poor thing, it will always be a brillo pad but in a few short months it is so soft, cottony, and beautiful, it makes me just love that hair type. And people with type 3 hair will tell me how pretty her hair is.

 

[Honeyhips]

so true, there is a little girl on the curve site now. Plus sibling can have different hair types, or her sister got a silkener too.

im sorry, but just b/c she is of a mixed heritage does not automatically mean she is gonna have type 3 hair..I am mixed my self, and the whole top portion of my head is 4a..maybe it is her natural hair, but i just had to respond to what sky-blue said..just b/c u are of a mixed heritage does not gaurantee you type 3 hair by any means....

 

[Honeyhips]

sky, i dont mind you asking, my mother is 100% puertorican, and my dad is black..i have 3 sisters plus myself..honeisos who is also a member here is my sister, and we all have diffrent hair textures..mine is the kinkiest..my youngest sisters hair is 3a-3b....my moms hair is 2b..very silky with a slight curl and fine hair..the only hair in inherited from her are the baby hairs on my neck...lol..

I didn't know that.