I believe you can go to the club and dance with your friends and still be a good Christian, but no engage in all of the debauchery that goes down.
I don't think drinking, smoking and dancing are sinful, I think drunkenness and liciviousness are sinful. To me, it would be safer to have such socializing in a big family gathering and look for a spouse at church. But when you just want to have fun with the friends your age, choose a classy club. That's my opinion and I realize that many ppl will not agree with it.
Nope i disagree. You cannot go to a club and dance to songs that excite sexual desires that glorify the flesh and sin, and still think it's okay. Dancing to those songs makes you a partaker in the debauchery.
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I haven't read the entire thread, but I don't mind sharing as this topic was literally brought up tonight.
I definitely do not judge those who go clubbing, because I used to be in there every time the doors opened lol, but I finally had to sit myself down and re-evaluate my life. I had goals at the time that I wanted to accomplish and I knew that lifestyle was getting in the way. I still wasn't saved at that point, (which is crazy because I've always believed in God, but never said the salvation prayer), but I knew that I was doing the right thing for me.
I moved to a new city and I'm always hit with, what do you do for fun, do you go out? I shop, travel, and no.
Every now and again I'm invited out by my coworkers and out of being nice, I'll show up, but I'm literally in and out.
I've grown out of it, and it's just flat out not appealing.
It's like I'm a 25 year old rarity to some people. It's so weird.
Absolutely not. No casinos either, not even to eat at the restaurants.
Nope i disagree. You cannot go to a club and dance to songs that excite sexual desires that glorify the flesh and sin, and still think it's okay. Dancing to those songs makes you a partaker in the debauchery.
I don't care how classy a club is decor or crowd-wise. The atmosphere is not conducive for holiness or any type of Godliness. The manner in which people dress in clubs is also part of glorifying the flesh and lust.
No matter how much people try to justify clubs, that is not a place a christian should be found 'hanging' out.
Unless you are there mandated by God to win souls, you are ministering to your flesh not your spirit man.
Romans 8:5-10 (Amplified Bible)
5 For those who are according to the flesh and are controlled by its unholy desires set their minds on and pursue those things which gratify the flesh, but those who are according to the Spirit and are controlled by the desires of the Spirit set their minds on and seek those things which gratify the [Holy] Spirit.
6 Now the mind of the flesh [which is sense and reason without the Holy Spirit] is death [death that comprises all the miseries arising from sin, both here and hereafter]. But the mind of the [Holy] Spirit is life and [soul] peace [both now and forever].
7 [That is] because the mind of the flesh [with its carnal thoughts and purposes] is hostile to God, for it does not submit itself to God's Law; indeed it cannot.
8 So then those who are living the life of the flesh [catering to the appetites and impulses of their carnal nature] cannot please or satisfy God, or be acceptable to Him.
9 But you are not living the life of the flesh, you are living the life of the Spirit, if the [Holy] Spirit of God [really] dwells within you [directs and controls you]. But if anyone does not possess the [Holy] Spirit of Christ, he is none of His [he does not belong to Christ, is not truly a child of God].
I have not been to a club ( cover charge dance place in many years. More than 30. I went to a lunch buffet at a local Detroit casino with a set of co workers. We had no patients and were waiting on an admission. Otherwise, I have not been in a casino. I have never been to a male dancer party. I am not lifting myself up. I am glad that I have no desire to go with my schoolmates if they want to go to something like that.
What about movies, television, internet,
where you work (does your boss do drugs, cheat or any other inglorious behavior?
You work for him...does it mean you're participating?), going to the park where there might be other people drinking beer at a picnic? What if there is no debaucherous music? What if you went to hear Al Jareau, Josh Grogan lol?
What if your club is a dinner club where husbands and wives dance to piano music? People can disagree, which is their right, but a lot of this is personal opinion and preference and judgmentalism. Obviously, you know when you are sinning or when you're getting into trouble but someone else's preference doesn't necessarily indicate it's a sin. It all depends. @zenith
I believe you can go to the club and dance with your friends and still be a good Christian, but no engage in all of the debauchery that goes down.