I used Organic Root Stimulator Olive Oil Wrap Set Mousse and the curls last all day but the curls are just not the same after I sleep on them. Some parts are stretched out, others look frizzy. I wear satin cap at night and put it in a loose ponytail during the day. I tried the pineapple method once and the back curls became straight. I would hate to have to redo the flexi rods nightly.