How can you tell if a man is emotionally unavailable?

mili

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Hello Ladies:

I was scanning a few websites and came upon something I had never considered my husband to be especially after 17 years of marriage... EMOTIONALLY UNAVAILABLE....

These are some of the tendancies listed on the site,

1.He uses sex as his way of demonstrating his so-called ‘emotion’

2.When you try to tackle the status of your relationship or any issues, he either tells you what you want to hear and then returns to his normal behaviour or he just skirts the issue. One way or the other, you wind up back at square one.

3.He mentions his ex or things that happened between the two of them often (even after 17 years of marriage)

4.He’s a mother hater – has an overtly negative relationship with his mother

5.You feel empty after you sleep with him.

6.He talks about his problems, his successes, his life – it’s me, me, me all the way

7.He can’t commit to anything, no matter how miniscule – everything that he’s asked, such as whether he can do something with you is a big drama to get him to say yay or nay

8.He’s got about as much emotion in him as a stone

I never looked at him this way before but after reading this....this really explains alot of the quirks in his behavior I seen for some time and the lack of what I felt coming from his direction.


What do you ladies think on this subject ? How to recognize the emotionally unavailable men and how to avoid them before you get caught in a 17 year marriage and have to begin to rethink your life...
 
I can agree with these signs. I have been with several men in the past that I described as "emotionally bankrupt". I even told one guy that I thought he was emotionally bankrupt because of numbers 7 and 8 above, and he agreed with me. I can't deal with men like the ones described above.
 
The man I'm seeing tells me that "it takes a while to warm up and get comfortable." I don't know what that meant, but that's how he responded to me when I told him that I needed more affection and communication. This guy is so emotionally dead and withdrawn. I know that I should just stop seeing him, but I'm still curious to see where the "relationship" is going...:nono:
 
Upon reading this, my first question is, why did he decide to get married in the first place? :perplexed How did you get him down that aisle? :lachen:

6.He talks about his problems, his successes, his life – it’s me, me, me all the way.


Is there a way that you can use this to get him to open up a bit more? When you say that he's not emotional, is it that he doesn't share info.? Doesn't cry? What exactly is reeeeaallllllyyyyy bothering you?

What do you ladies think on this subject ? How to recognize the emotionally unavailable men and how to avoid them before you get caught in a 17 year marriage and have to begin to rethink your life...

I understand what you're saying though. My father is very similar, only talks about what he wants to talk about and then calms up/shuts down when you deviate from subject. My fear is marrying someone exactly like that, (or even worse, becoming someone like that). You have to tell him how his actions, or lack thereof make you feel. And what's the issue with his mom?
 
Been there, done that...it's so not worth it! :nono: I tried to hang on for a minute to see if anything would come out of a dating situation I was in with a man that fit most of the tendencies above. After two months of "watiting and seeing" :rolleyes: I was able to move on since I was so unfulfilled. It was lonely two months...which was very telling since we saw each other at least a couple of times a week. Never again!!
 
Been there, done that...it's so not worth it! :nono: I tried to hang on for a minute to see if anything would come out of a dating situation I was in with a man that fit most of the tendencies above. After two months of "watiting and seeing" :rolleyes: I was able to move on since I was so unfulfilled. It was lonely two months...which was very telling since we saw each other at least a couple of times a week. Never again!!

You're so right. I wonder if I'm setting myself up for more pain. I need a man who is more open and communicative. Not clingy or weak but one who is emotionally open and available. This guy is only "for the meantime." He's not "forever." My goal is to keep getting out there and try to date and get involved in activities that are fulfilling to me. I never want to fall into a trap that I'm allowing a man to complete me. That's not who I am.

To mili: my heart goes out to you! It must be awful. Have you considered couples counseling. Maybe there is something in his past that is inhibiting him and not allowing him to open up. Hang in there. There has to be a solution to this problem. I think counseling is the answer.
 
I had to post this here for myself as much as for you ladies:

Letting Go of a Relationship…That Doesn’t Exist

There are two big questions hovering in the comments recently that pretty much amount to the same thing:

How do I let go of the guy that didn’t reciprocate my feelings?
How do I let go of the guy that I didn’t actually have a relationship with?
In essence, how do you let go of a one-sided attraction which in your mind has created a relationship out of…your feelings?

For a start, you can’t ‘break up’ when there is nothing to break up from. The only person you have to break up with is you and your rather overactive imagination and feelings.

The issue here isn’t really about ‘him’ as he’s not really part of the equation when you’ve created an illusion rather than keeping your feet in the real world - the issue is about you and the fact that you don’t want to let go of your feelings, your obsession, your drama.

There are four key reasons why these situations come about:

You are a queen of projection. You choose men that cater to your own negative self-fulfilling prophecy and are likely to leave you ‘crushing’ on them and then you project the feelings that you think you have on them and assume that because you think you feel a certain way about them, they should feel that way about you too. You want them to notice you, to see you in the way that you see them, and you conduct the great majority of this stuff in your head without communicating it to them and then wonder why they haven’t reciprocated your feelings.

You think that your feelings are big enough for the two of you. You lose all sense of proportion and become so consumed in how you feel that you want him to be swept up in all the love you have to give and that one day he’ll catch up to how you feel and return it. Trust me, they don’t.

You don’t actually want to be in a relationship. You’re living in a dream world and afraid of being rejected in the real world. In choosing men who are aloof and unlikely to be interested in you, you get to avoid having to be hurt in a way that you’re trying to avoid. Instead, you build sandcastles in the sky in your head and then feel rejected by your own daydreams because the reality is that you need some sort of inspiration for these illusions and he is not a part of your life. You’re very emotionally unavailable.

You don’t want to let go. As many of us have discovered, even if it’s the most toxic thing to continue feeling as we do or being involved with someone, we continue, not only because it’s a bit like ‘I’ve started so I’ll finish’ but also because even when there is nothing or it’s crap, we don’t want to let go.

We don’t want to get real with ourselves in case we find that we have something difficult or painful to look at, we don’t want to admit that we’re often creators of our own pain, and we certainly don’t want to admit that we’re letting go of something that didn’t exist, and if it did, it was for the most part in our heads.

Remember, it’s a bit difficult to make someone accountable for something that is a grand illusion in your head when you could have been making them accountable for real behaviours. Likewise, you can’t wonder why someone isn’t being and feeling what you want them to be when they’re not part of the relationship in your head.

These men end up acting as ‘inspiration’ for our latest round of feelings and it’s like they put some input in at the beginning and then we just take it from there, refusing to acknowledge whether they are even there or not and if they are behaving in line with what’s in our heads and if not, why not.

Quite frankly, any misery you are feeling is for the most part, your own creation because you are not interested in keeping your feet in reality and have been too busy wallowing in your own world. In doing this, you’re not seeing signs that you need to get real, and you’re not hearing signs that you need to get real. In fact, the person may have no clue that you are even interested in them, or if they do, they may have told you that they’re not interested and you switched to unreciprocated feelings mode and hovered there expecting him to see you in the way that you want to be seen and magically catch up with your feelings.

It doesn’t matter what they feel - you’re only interested in the fact that you feel what you feel and you want them to feel that too.

The thing is, from the moment that you recognise that you 1) are not having your feelings reciprocated and/or 2) that you’re not in a relationship with them, major warning signals should be going to your brain that there is something seriously wrong if you are still trying to get them to reciprocate and obsessing about them over an extended period of time.

It’s one thing to have a crush and it’s the other to crush the crap out of yourself in a self-destructive pursuit of pain and then blame it on someone else.

If you have made the choice to continue loving and chasing him with much of it taking place from your head as you wait for crumbs or nothing at all, you’re on a serious avoidance mission because it’s like you want to hide away on these self-created feelings of rejection rather than get out there in the real world and risk yourself in a real relationship.

Whilst I recognise that in some instances, we can be misled by a guy to believe that he feels more than he does, I tend to find that women who are in this situation are invariably in it because they decided that they were crazy about someone and don’t want to let that, and the fantasy go.

You’ve decided that you want him, love him, and to hell with it, you’ll find a way to show him that he should notice and love you too. You’re gonna ride this imaginary donkey of love till it collapses.

We’re back at the juncture again where we think that deciding that we love or feel something about someone creates an automatic IOU.

We’re also back at that juncture where we’re loving without any foundation for loving and then refusing to opt out because we don’t want to let go of the fantasy or the illusion and get real…and deal with our problems.

And trust me, if you’re doing this, you have some big issues to deal with because you’re engaging in incredibly self-destructive behaviour and repeatedly creating a rejection situation for yourself and then wondering why you’re in pain - because you did it, not him!

In all honesty, the only way that these situations end is when YOU end ‘it’. You don’t need to say anything because to be honest, I think some of these men would be a touch confused if you told them that something was over that they didn’t think had started.
Stop calling, stop chasing, stop texting, stop seeing a bread loaf when there is barely a crumb.

Stop waiting, stop hoping, stop projecting, stop the madness.

Stop creating drama and then wondering why you are miserable - as it’s all one sided, you are the master orchestrator of your own soap opera.

Commit to being in the real world. Take things at face value so when he doesn’t call, it’s because he doesn’t want to speak with you, not because he’s waiting for you to make a move. When you don’t hear from him for months, it’s not because you did something wrong that you need to figure out - it’s because you are not in a relationship and whilst you are daydreaming the crap out of your life, he is out there living his.

Yes that’s right living and if you spend your energy wanting men that don’t want you and then obsessing about why they don’t want you, your life will be at one mega grandstill.

If you point blank cannot accept that 1) it’s for the most part in your head, 2) if he doesn’t want you then it’s time to start learning to stop wanting him, 3) you’re creating your own drama and pain, then you must at least accept that you are 100% responsible for where you are now and that you don’t get to let yourself off the hook and blame him.

And then go and talk to someone because spending your life and brain time escaping from the real world whilst hurting yourself and not wanting that to change says that it’s time you spoke to someone and got to the heart of your issues.

But if you are at that point where you want to and can do something about this, don’t try to make things anymore complicated than they are because when you let go of something that doesn’t and didn’t exist, you have that power and are in the driving seat of what happens to you. Don’t make out like he has to do something to end this - you have to do something and cold turkey it out so that you can gain some real perspective and get to the heart of why you are engaging in this self-destructive behaviour so that you don’t go back.

Your thoughts?

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Been there, NEVER going back. But I look at the 3 months I spent as a learning experience. I know better now and DO better! :amen:
 
WOW! Great article Serenity! :up: :yep:

Thanks for that. That article is a wake-up call for many women I'm sure. It had some great advice. Sometimes the truth does hurt...but tough love is at times what is needed.

It really is a waste of time to spend your life obsessing over some guy who either: 1) doesn't feel the same way, 2) doesn't treat you with the respect you deserve, or 3) is emotionally UNavailable.

I've heard the term emotionally unavailable before, but I've never actually known 100% what it meant. I know that it's a little different from the "Ambivalent Man", but in some ways they do have some similarities.

I'm going to look up more info about that term "emotionally unavailable" because I'm thinking that more and more people (friends, family members, guys, etc) in my life are like this and I didn't even realize it! Some people are ALL about themselves. Me me me. And when it comes to you, they either shut down, or don't have time for you. Ugh... :nono:
 
I think that a big part of the problem is that a lot of men do not open up and talk about their feelings in the same way that women do.

Women talk for hours to their friends, sister, mum, aunts etc to release the pain and anxiety they may be feeling over things that happen in their lives. I think they are also more likely to put themselves into therapy when they see they have a problem. I think that an emotionally unavailable man however, doesn't ever stop to think about his feelings, his pain and how much he is hurting, instead he supresses them.

From my personal experiences I believe the pain tends to come from one of two things: a) An emotionally unhealthy childhood (i.e. abuse, neglect, abandoned, death of a parent) or b) A failed relationship with their first true love whom they gave their heart to completely, and they vow never to do it again.

I believe I have met a number of emotionally unavailable men in my time and my experiences combined together have been:

-Tell u from the begining not to fall in love with them, they are not looking for a relationship (but still want to keep seeing you) & tell you that they are holding back their emotions from you.
-Are obsessed with sex (to the point where they can't hold a conversation with you about anything else)
-Compulsive party goers
-Compulsive womanizers
-Obsessed with trying to show impress others with money (fast car, buying champagne for everyone when we went out even though they were out of a job and living off loans and savings at the time)
-Testing you to see how much you will boost their ego, but its never enough
-Compulsive liars (to the point where they even believe the lies themselves)
-Have anger management problems / very bad temper
-Jealousy
-Addictions (smoking, drinking)

I believe these characteristics (all of which I have experienced) stem from the fact that the emotions they have are churning around inside them but never get released by talking and crying to someone about the pain they are feeling. I believe that the emotions still have to come out of you, they don't disappear on they own, so they just come out in the different ways I have listed above.

I may be not be 100% on point with my analysis but I do find psychology fascinating and I am always analysing things (too much sometimes which is not good either) but I do believe the basis of this is true.
 
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