Homosexuality and the Bible

[chellero]

This is kind of a spin off from one of the Prop 8 threads in the political forum.

Someone mentioned interpretations of the Bible that allow homosexuality, instead of it being a sin. I have never come across an interpretation like this that was not quite obviously flawed, but I was wondering if anyone here had. If so please share.

 

[apemay1969]

This is kind of a spin off from one of the Prop 8 threads in the political forum.

Someone mentioned interpretations of the Bible that allow homosexuality, instead of it being a sin. I have never come across an interpretation like this that was not quite obviously flawed, but I was wondering if anyone here had. If so please share.

I did have a Lutheran pastor tell me that in the original languages, homosexuality was not mentioned specifically. He said that it was added later once translated. He performed commitment ceremonies and supported the couples.

He lost a lot of parishioners because of his beliefs that were supported by the ELCA.

 

[discobiscuits]

If I find it I'll post the thread on this topic.

Meanwhile, all sexual immorality is a sin. The word homosexual(ity) may not be in the "original" texts but the concept of humans sexually involved with the same gender is discussed in the OT (as an abomination) & in the NT.

 

[chellero]

I did have a Lutheran pastor tell me that in the original languages, homosexuality was not mentioned specifically. He said that it was added later once translated. He performed commitment ceremonies and supported the couples.

He lost a lot of parishioners because of his beliefs that were supported by the ELCA.

I know that the word homosexuality wasn't added until fairly recently. I'm trying to find a sensible interpretation that says that the act is OK by God.

 

[Shimmie]

This is kind of a spin off from one of the Prop 8 threads in the political forum.

Someone mentioned interpretations of the Bible that allow homosexuality, instead of it being a sin. I have never come across an interpretation like this that was not quite obviously flawed, but I was wondering if anyone here had. If so please share.

Hi Chellero. Blessing to you.

My answer is for those who want to believe, justify or push the lie mentioned above, about God's word.

There isn't and there never will be any repeal in God's word, that homosexuality is accepted by God and considered not a sin. People who support homosexuality will come up with anything to justify it; and yes even to the point of exploiting God's word.

The gay churches have their own, self defined, Biblical 'twist' to justify their lifestyle, by stating that Jesus never 'addressed' homosexuality during His ministry here on earth; therefore, according to 'them' (homosexual supporters) it is considered that Jesus does not seen it as a sin.

I can't help but wonder what other delusions they will come up with.

But here's the bottomline: God is not mocked. Homosexuality is a mockery of God's design, purpose and His creation of mankind and how sexual intercourse is to be enacted; which is only between a man and his wife. All that He has said on the subject of homosexuality is not only clearly written, but clearly illustrated.

If people want to engage in homosexuality, then so be it; but they do not have the right nor justification to lie and try to deceive others nor themselves, to say that God approves of it or that the Bible supports it. Just be gay and be gay with it. Don't add to the spin, more sin. A spade is a spade, no matter what; and the deuse is still wild.

It's one thing for gays to 'push' and whimper about 'cival rights' (which gay marriage does not qualify), but to 'push' into God's word, is an absurdity which is trully crossing the line; it's trespassing, and it's taking things way too far. gays need to know where to back off or suffer the repercussions.

Nothing in Heaven, nor here on earth, nor in God's word, supports homosexuality. For even here on earth it is a sin against its self.

Peace and blessings....

 

[discobiscuits]

I know that the word homosexuality wasn't added until fairly recently. I'm trying to find a sensible interpretation that says that the act is OK by God.

You won't because there is none.

 

[Shimmie]

If I find it I'll post the thread on this topic.

Meanwhile, all sexual immorality is a sin. The word homosexual(ity) may not be in the "original" texts but the concept of humans sexually involved with the same gender is discussed in the OT (as an abomination) & in the NT.

Headstrong for being among those who know God's truth and stand boldly upon it. You are a Christian without compromise. You KNOW the word and you stand on it.

I can see that the enemy's (satan's) scheme now is to 'play' on the word 'homosexuality' not being mentioned in the Bible. Ummmmmm, the definition of it is surely in God's word and it cannot be missed. People are really 'stretching' their sins.


homo = same

sex = sex

same sex = man shall not lie with a man as if with a woman.! How hard is that to comprehend.

God said that this would happen. People looking to 'justify' homosexuality .................by His word which is exactly what satan is feeding into their minds.

24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie,

and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

Romans 1:

26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

If adulterers can stop committing adultery; and all other sins mentioned, then it is also expected the homosexuals stop being active in homosexuality, yet instead, they want to change God's word to fit their sexual agenda.

It will NEVER be repealed. The only repeal is to repent and to cease and to decist from their activities. Period.

So stop trying to research and re-write the Word of God; it's fruitless. Accept homosexuality for what it is.... Sinning against God....Period.

 

[HeChangedMyName]

This is kind of a spin off from one of the Prop 8 threads in the political forum.

Someone mentioned interpretations of the Bible that allow homosexuality, instead of it being a sin. I have never come across an interpretation like this that was not quite obviously flawed, but I was wondering if anyone here had. If so please share.

You can probably find tons of interpretations that say that homosexuality are ok. The problem will be finding a correct interpretation that says that, because there aren't any. The devil knows scripture better than most of us lay people and can therefore spin the scripture to do what he wants it to do, which is to deceive people. See how he deceived Eve in the garden and convinced her that something she knew was wrong was actually ok. . .That's how he gets off. Don't even seek out the devils interpretations, instead ask God to show you His interpretation of His Word. The truth is always the truth when you get it from God.

 

[aribell]

I did have a Lutheran pastor tell me that in the original languages, homosexuality was not mentioned specifically. He said that it was added later once translated. He performed commitment ceremonies and supported the couples.

He lost a lot of parishioners because of his beliefs that were supported by the ELCA.

Hmm...I'm not sure what exactly that pastor was referring to, but that is suspect. The word "homosexuality" may not have been there (though it certainly was a clearly defined part of the Greek culture which Paul knew well), that type of act and relationship are mentioned all the way from The Old Testament to the New. (Levitical laws, Romans 1, etc.)

Don't want to be too contentious, I just hate it when people who are in authority give arguments that ultimately confuse and mislead the flock.

But, this idea of homosexuality as "sexual orientation" as an integral part of a person's identity is not a concept found in the Bible. The Biblical writers were concerned with sexual acts, not people who were saying "God made me romantically inclined toward the same sex."

 

[Shimmie]

You won't because there is none.

For I am the LORD, I CHANGE NOT; (Malachi 3:6)

Now if folks can't except this, how can they believe anything else that God says.

 

[HeChangedMyName]

Praise God!!! Sisters in Christ let us not forget what the Word of God says:

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.

If "our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing, whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them" (2 Corinthians 4:3-4).

You unfaithful people! Don't you know that love for this [evil] world is hatred toward God? Whoever wants to be a friend of this world is an enemy of God. James 4:4

 

[chellero]

You can probably find tons of interpretations that say that homosexuality are ok. The problem will be finding a correct interpretation that says that, because there aren't any. The devil knows scripture better than most of us lay people and can therefore spin the scripture to do what he wants it to do, which is to deceive people. See how he deceived Eve in the garden and convinced her that something she knew was wrong was actually ok. . .That's how he gets off. Don't even seek out the devils interpretations, instead ask God to show you His interpretation of His Word. The truth is always the truth when you get it from God.

I have always been one who looks at the Bible with an open mind. Meaning that I don't assume that my interpretation or the interpretation of most Bible scholars is automatically the right one. I do believe in praying and asking God for wisdom guidance and understanding regarding His word and how I should apply that to my life, but intellectually I am also very interested in other people's interpretations of the Bible. "What do you think? , how did you get that? where does it say that?" and fifty eleven other questions. At the moment I am trying to figure out if some folks in the political forum came up with an interpretation of God's word that allows for homosexuality that isn't, "obviously flawed". As I said there and here I have never seen one, and I don't think that there is such a thing. But they aren't telling me what interpretation they speak of, so I figured that I would also ask the ladies over here if they have heard of such thing. So far the answer is a resounding NO!

 

[LayneJ]

What I was taught:

Sexual immorality = sin

Homosexual sex, heterosexual sex, oral sex, etc. It's all wrong in God's eyes.

However, it was taught that a male/female attracted to the same sex is not a sin. A male/female having a romantic interest in someone of the same sex is not a sin. A male/female attracted to the same sex and participating in intercourse, is a sin, as with heterosexuals. To support this theory, he pointed to Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination." Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them" and 1 Cor. 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."

He emphasized the "lie" in the first 2 scriptures as evidence that it is the sex that is wrong, not the orientation.

My parents were raised to believe homosexuality = sin, so they reject the aforementioned interpretation.

 

[HeChangedMyName]

I have always been one who looks at the Bible with an open mind. Meaning that I don't assume that my interpretation or the interpretation of most Bible scholars is automatically the right one. I do believe in praying and asking God for wisdom guidance and understanding regarding His word and how I should apply that to my life, but intellectually I am also very interested in other people's interpretations of the Bible. At the moment I am trying to figure out if some folks in the political forum came up with an interpretation of God's word that allows for homosexuality that isn't, "obviously flawed". But they aren't telling, so I figured that I would also ask the ladies over here.

Oh, ok. It is good to know what the world is saying about our God and his Word, however remember it is not our place to rationalize with the devil. All we need to do is let him know that we know our scripture according to God's Word. That is what Jesus did when the devil tried to tempt him.

 

[HeChangedMyName]

What I was taught:

Sexual immorality = sin

Homosexual sex, heterosexual sex, oral sex, etc. It's all wrong in God's eyes.

However, it was taught that a male/female attracted to the same sex is not a sin. A male/female having a romantic interest in someone of the same sex is not a sin. A male/female attracted to the same sex and participating in intercourse, is a sin, as with heterosexuals. To support this theory, he pointed to Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination." Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them" and 1 Cor. 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."

He emphasized the "lie" in the first 2 scriptures as evidence that it is the sex that is wrong, not the orientation.

My parents were raised to believe homosexuality = sin, so they reject the aforementioned interpretation.

Homosexuality is defined as

1. Sexual orientation to persons of the same sex.
2. Sexual activity with another of the same sex.

So it is both an emotional attraction as well as inclusive of the physical activities of persons of the same sex, which makes it a sin. Now to cover the "feelings" part of it, God's Word says in
Proverbs 4
23 Above all else, guard your heart,
for it is the wellspring of life. 24 Put away perversity from your mouth;
keep corrupt talk far from your lips.
25 Let your eyes look straight ahead,
fix your gaze directly before you.
26 Make level paths for your feet
and take only ways that are firm.
27 Do not swerve to the right or the left;
keep your foot from evil.


God is letting us know here that things that we keep in our hearts have a way of leaking into our lives, So to prevent the possibility of homosexual physical contact, one should avoid and try to purge themselves of homosexual "feelings/attractions" because they may end up in a physical situation.

"Let no one say when he is tempted, "I am tempted by God"; for God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does He Himself tempt anyone. But each one is tempted when he is drawn away by his own desires and enticed. Then, when desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, brings forth death" (James 1:13-15)

 

[firecracker]

Ya'll don't even want to know what I read in some foul mcnasty magazine called Nylon from a female gay rap group. Tsk tsk tsk to think folks will say anything and try to change up stuff to work for them. Nobody is perfect but too twist stuff to accommodate behavior is mind blowing.

 

[discobiscuits]

There is a difference between intrepretation and translation. Humans have the free will to intrepret any translation as he or she wishes. That does not make that interpretation correct. Additionally some people make a conscious decision to omit. That too does not make something or someone correct.

 

[firecracker]

God is letting us know here that things that we keep in our hearts have a way of leaking into our lives, So to prevent the possibility of homosexual physical contact, one should avoid and try to purge themselves of homosexual "feelings/attractions" because they may end up in a physical situation.


The same goes for all the other sins too. Let us not forget that also.

 

[HeChangedMyName]

There is a difference between intrepretation and translation. Humans have the free will to intrepret any translation as he or she wishes. That does not make that interpretation correct. Additionally some people make a conscious decision to omit. That too does not make something or someone correct.

I agree with you here in bold, but the issue isn't about what we "think" is right or wrong. God has the final interpretation of his Word. Free will is a gift that we were given to use in full submission to God and whenever we utilize our free will outside of the will of God, we put ourselves in danger of straying from God's Word. The bible says, in Proverbs 3
5Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. 6In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.
7Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil.

 

[HeChangedMyName]

God is letting us know here that things that we keep in our hearts have a way of leaking into our lives, So to prevent the possibility of homosexual physical contact, one should avoid and try to purge themselves of homosexual "feelings/attractions" because they may end up in a physical situation.


The same goes for all the other sins too. Let us not forget that also.

True, you're right. We could change the title of this thread to include any other sin and the same would apply. A sin is a sin no matter what you call it. The problem comes in calling a sin something else and justifying it as ok.

 

[firecracker]

True, you're right. We could change the title of this thread to include any other sin and the same would apply. A sin is a sin no matter what you call it. The problem comes in calling a sin something else and justifying it as ok.

ita but you know folks lurking and think that others think they are perfectly without sin. I just had to put that out there for their clarification.

 

[Shimmie]

I have always been one who looks at the Bible with an open mind. Meaning that I don't assume that my interpretation or the interpretation of most Bible scholars is automatically the right one. I do believe in praying and asking God for wisdom guidance and understanding regarding His word and how I should apply that to my life, but intellectually I am also very interested in other people's interpretations of the Bible. "What do you think? , how did you get that? where does it say that?" and fifty eleven other questions.

At the moment I am trying to figure out if some folks in the political forum came up with an interpretation of God's word that allows for homosexuality that isn't, "obviously flawed".

As I said there and here I have never seen one, and I don't think that there is such a thing.

But they aren't telling me what interpretation they speak of,

so I figured that I would also ask the ladies over here if they have heard of such thing. So far the answer is a resounding NO!

I tried to pull this 'trickery' on my parents when I wanted to stay out past my curfew.... "ummmmmmmmmm, it never worked".... It wasn't supposed to, for when my parents layed down the law, that's the way it was and it wasn't changing just because I wanted it to.

God is not ''appeaseing' the confused mindset of those who want to misuse His word to 'fit' their homosexual agenda. The only thing God is going to do is leave them 'hanging'. He's not in it. God is not 'confused' about sexuality, He does not hav any 'duh-ah' moments. God does not lie and He will not say that homosexuality is okay just because folks want Him to. It's just not an option. It is was it is, period.

They can't tell you of an Interpretation of God's word, because they do not have one, neither will they ever have one. God blinded and destroyed an entire City because it was filled with homosexuality. If that's not an answer than I don't know what else there is to say. That's about as final as one can get.

My concern is for Christians who would even 'question' God's word like this, for it indicates 'doubt' of what God says. If we can't believe what God calls sin, than how can we believe in what He calls blessings.

The word of God says, "Choose" Choose you this day, whom you will serve, as for me and my house (my family) we will serve the Lord!

How long will 'we' halt (hesitate, straddle the fence) between two opinions. If God be God, serve Him; if Baal be god, serve baal. It's one or the other, for no man can serve two masters. He'll serve one and hate the other.

We cannot defend homosexuality and look for God's acceptance of it, and in turn claim to serve and love God. It's either / or. For if we lean towards the other, we'll end up falling on the wrong side. The enemy's wall cannot sustain us, nor keep us from falling.

Choose God; homosexuals cannot save us nor themselves. But we can help them by praying for them and seeking God's word to restore them from their sin instead of seeking God's word to keep them in sin.

 

[HeChangedMyName]

ita but you know folks lurking and think that others think they are perfectly without sin. I just had to put that out there for their clarification.

True. True. for the record. I am a sinner, saved only by grace and covered by the blood of Jesus Christ. I have been delivered from fornication, adultery, stealing, and a host of other sins and I know that there are homosexuals(perhaps even on this board) who get confused in the midst of these discussions and wonder if they may be condemned forever. NO. Repent and turn from your sin, ask for forgiveness and you too will be free to converse with God on a level where you will be able to see the truth of his Word and even if you never tell a single soul what you and God spoke/speak about, you will begin to recognize the truth in interpretation when you see it.

 

[HeChangedMyName]

Choose God; homosexuals cannot save us nor themselves. But we can help them by praying for them and seeking God's word to restore them from their sin instead of seeking God's word to keep them in sin.

Amen to that

 

[Ms.Honey]

I'm just waiting on the drive by posts

You know the ones that go, "I know which ones but I won't subject myself to you alls scrutiny so I won't even bother to post it here because it wouldn't be appropriate"

Translation: " I just came over here to say that and not show any real evidence just incase y'all will prove that I'm wrong so I'm gonna speed on up out of here real quick"

Drive by

 

[Liberianmami26]

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone...thats how i see it.

i think if a pastor has a problem marrying homosexuals its the same thing as those unwed mothers no need to offend anyone who had a child out of wedlock my own mother is guilty of it. but i also see that all under the same sin as homosexuality sex outside of the purpose for which it was meant with a man and a woman in marriage. any kind of sex other than married man with woman is a sin straight or gay right correct me if im wrong but that is how i was taught to interpret the scripture and i just went back to my bible and checked those verses and read the footnotes that went with them and it just verified my point.

no one is perfect we all have our own sins and shortcomings. only God determines who goes to heaven that means a faithful gay man and an adulterous straight married man are both on the same ticket for a spot in heaven...just my two cents lets try not to stone me...

i have no problem with gay people they can have all the marital rights as straights just as long as it is not called marriage cuz by my christian definition its not. like my mother says just let the gays do as they please people are doing far worse than having sex lets look at the big picture here and stop crucifying some good people.

plus i go to school with a lot of lesbians they dont bother me cuz they know im straight and comfortable with my sexuality however the bicurious ones do get caught up in that and its there buisness i just hate them being hypocrites later and fronting when the biggest lesbian in the school is saying they hooked up.

 

[star]

I know that the word homosexuality wasn't added until fairly recently. I'm trying to find a sensible interpretation that says that the act is OK by God.

This is not true as a Bible student that word and term has been used from the beginning. The only "lately" interpreation is from the company of the Bible your are reading and who knows what company that is. Men were having sex with men way back then and some even tried to have sex with angels. It is abominaton then and abomination now. No matter what lanuage you use or what country you are from it makes God vomit. He made Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve. If God ordianed same sex then why would he say be fruitful and multiply most of us would not even exist? There are no same sex couples having children unless adopted or donation of sperm. It takes a man and woman to have a baby. Any body who says the act of homosexuailty by God is OK is lying on God. He uses yay or nay NOT OK.

 

[star]

I have always been one who looks at the Bible with an open mind. Meaning that I don't assume that my interpretation or the interpretation of most Bible scholars is automatically the right one. I do believe in praying and asking God for wisdom guidance and understanding regarding His word and how I should apply that to my life, but intellectually I am also very interested in other people's interpretations of the Bible. "What do you think? , how did you get that? where does it say that?" and fifty eleven other questions. At the moment I am trying to figure out if some folks in the political forum came up with an interpretation of God's word that allows for homosexuality that isn't, "obviously flawed". As I said there and here I have never seen one, and I don't think that there is such a thing. But they aren't telling me what interpretation they speak of, so I figured that I would also ask the ladies over here if they have heard of such thing. So far the answer is a resounding NO!

Seeking others interpreation will caused alot of confusion so just be careful. I think if you had stated you already asked GOD first for understanding this may have helped but since this is a Christian forum nobody views surpases God's and the Bible is clear on this subject and has been over thousands of years. This topic would do better in another forum since is not the place for debate and what people think but to exhort, uplift and stir each other up unto good works as it pleases God.

 

[Shimmie]

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone...thats how i see it.

i think if a pastor has a problem marrying homosexuals its the same thing as those unwed mothers no need to offend anyone who had a child out of wedlock my own mother is guilty of it. but i also see that all under the same sin as homosexuality sex outside of the purpose for which it was meant with a man and a woman in marriage. any kind of sex other than married man with woman is a sin straight or gay right correct me if im wrong but that is how i was taught to interpret the scripture and i just went back to my bible and checked those verses and read the footnotes that went with them and it just verified my point.

no one is perfect we all have our own sins and shortcomings. only God determines who goes to heaven that means a faithful gay man and an adulterous straight married man are both on the same ticket for a spot in heaven...just my two cents lets try not to stone me...

i have no problem with gay people they can have all the marital rights as straights just as long as it is not called marriage cuz by my christian definition its not. like my mother says just let the gays do as they please people are doing far worse than having sex lets look at the big picture here and stop crucifying some good people.

plus i go to school with a lot of lesbians they dont bother me cuz they know im straight and comfortable with my sexuality however the bicurious ones do get caught up in that and its there buisness i just hate them being hypocrites later and fronting when the biggest lesbian in the school is saying they hooked up.

No one has denied that the other sins and sexual sins were not sins. Isn't it hypocritical to speak of the hetrosexual sins in sex and then defend gay sexual sin with the, "they don't bother me' pass?

Many an unwed mother has turned away from her sins and they are living righteous before God.

Many men who have made babies with several women has fully repented and are living righteous before God.

And there are homosexuals who have also repented and are no longer living a homosexual lifestyle. I can go as far as to say they have given total yield to the Holy Spirit. Donnie McClurkin, Dennis Jernigan are two who have powerful testimonies and are beautiful living examples of God's deliverance.

No one is crucifying homosexuals; yet it is they who have taken far too many liberties, in our schools, our children, 'our' Marriage definement, and in our Churches to literally overthrow and PUSH their agenda over those who are living right for God.

Since when do they have the right to step into our schools and Churches to re-write the Truth according to their lies. What's truly hypocrital is that this country has taken God and prayer out of schools and the courthouses, and off of the Dollar coin (In God We Trust), and has allowed the gay agenda to move in instead.

Look, I'm not 'attacking' you personally. Instead, it's the mindset that has been filtered in and is trying to rule to make this a gay nation, even to the point of overruling the Churches and to mess with the minds of innocent children, in order for gays to raise up a new generation which will support them.

satan is a mighty deceiver, a master at it. Do you know that physically there is an underground 'master-mind' behind all that we've been seeing and hearing about pushing the gay agenda? CNN did a report on this. This person has kept a very low profile and he has been strategically placing people in positions to vote/pass issues for their cause.

But no matter what, God still rules and as Christians we cannot 'punk' out on God and fall into satan's whims and traps of deception. the one thing satan is messing with is 'Christians' who wimp out. I am truly not one of them, And I do not care how anyone 'sees' me. I'm a fighter for God's cause, not the enemy's.

Never feel sorry for the enemy (satan). What we see in people, we have to allow God to show us the spiritual forces behind it.

Those who support homosexuality are inviting this spirit to visit them, for they have placed out the 'welcome mat' for it. Instead of husbands cheating with another woman, they will cheat with a man and women with women. Why? Their views on sexual sanctity have been intertwined with that of unsanctity. They see no wrong in homosexual sex, hence when they yield to 'temptation'.... It's already happening. Couples are swinging left and left, not to the right of God's Grace and His Will.

Folks have to stop and see the entire picture and what lies ahead. There's a reason why God has set a standard. There's a reason He says to 'seek' Him first. It's up to us to follow Him and not man.

In all honesty, it is an unwholesome compromise for Christians to even support 'Civil Unions' for gays; for we have still given legality to sinful sex. Civil Unions still equate sin. I am no longer stating that I opt 'gay civil unions', for it is a sinful compromise. I will not support neither gay marriage nor gay civil unions. Both are wrong. Civil Unions puts all relationships outside of Marriage on the equality of Marriage and somewhere the line must be drawn.

Jesus said the path to destruction is wide, yet the path to righteousness is straight and narrow; it allows no room for error. When God's gives a pure blessing, then pure it is, He seals off all entries of contamination. Who wants a compromised blessing as opposed to pure strength? I choose the straight and narrow, no matter who gets offended. There's a Godly reason for it. We are not to compromise. No shortcuts.

 

[Liberianmami26]

i have my own Christian values and dont feel the need to push them onto other people i agree with what you say that people are using sex in many ways that God does not. approve of. but i will not disassociate myself with someone because they are a homosexual because for some it is indeed there nature and they cannot just decide the next day, maybe im not gay anymore especially if you could tell from a very young age that lil boy was going to be fruity. with that said i do agree many women and men do find their way back to God after all their ho-ing but there are a lot of wolves in sheep clothing doing the same thing they did before they were saved.

as far as supporting homosexuals I was the first person my cousin came out to because if you think african americans see it as taboo Africans is a whole different situation. he told me first cuz he knew i was the most understanding one and that i wouldnt judge him, he also knew that was not my preference for him as a member of our Christian family to be a gay man but he is who he is and i will not disown him. his sister and mother were told years later and it took them a complete year i think to be ok with his situation and so is the rest of our extended family, we all know he is gay dont approve of homosexuality but we do have that welcome mat for him anytime because he is always welcome... like i said before there are far worse sins then being gay just my opinion and i do take offense when i see people trying to in a way "tell them they are going to hell." because being in the arts i have been surrounded by a lot of gay males and i know their struggle and no one should have to go through wat they do. just my two cents.