Height & Hair Length

I think it's great that many of you women don't compare yourself to anyone else. However, I think that comparison is a natural thing, and to say that you never do it is hard for me to believe. It's human nature. I'm not really hating on anyone tall or short for having long hair, I'm just pointing out that these are factors that come into play. So, for a short woman achieving her hair goals sooner than her tall, long necked friend, I'd let her friend know that maybe it's not your hair, maybe it's your long neck that is holding you up. LOL. Taking a holistic view of the situation may help those women who do compare understand that they may take a longer time to reach some of their hair goals [SL, BSL, MBL, etc], not because their hair care is bad, but because of their unique proportions. These women might be helped by this as opposed to thinking they need to make drastic changes to the regiment or give up on their goals.

Height actually never crosses my mind everyone looks the same height in their avatars :lol:
 
I'm 5'7.5". I can honestly say thay I never consider anyone's height or compare their growth with mine. I love seeing progress pics mainly because, now that I'm interested, I love looking at hair. But I post my own progress pics to be an encouragement to myself, prmarily, and to others, secondarily. Watching my own growth keeps me motivated and helps to keep hairnorexia in check. When my hair feels shorter than it is or not to be growing, I look to my own pics for motivation.

I also hang out in longer-haired threads to be continually reminded that longer lengths are not like the elusive Big Foot. Never havei wondered how tall one may be or discounted growth for such reasons. It doesn't matter. These ladies offer me reassurance, and I'm grateful.

I think to move forward, we should look through positive eyes and with a grateful expectancy of reaching our own goals. In my opinion, any negative twinges should be aggressively dismissed and exchanged for kind words and cheers. Not trying to sound too deep but, we really should bless and not curse (whether openly or in our hearts). To BE blessed, be a blessing.

Hey. That's just how I roll. Choose how you walk in your own shoes.
 
I'm 5'7.5". I can honestly say thay I never consider anyone's height or compare their growth with mine. I love seeing progress pics mainly because, now that I'm interested, I love looking at hair. But I post my own progress pics to be an encouragement to myself, prmarily, and to others, secondarily. Watching my own growth keeps me motivated and helps to keep hairnorexia in check. When my hair feels shorter than it is or not to be growing, I look to my own pics for motivation.

I also hang out in longer-haired threads to be continually reminded that longer lengths are not like the elusive Big Foot. Never havei wondered how tall one may be or discounted growth for such reasons. It doesn't matter. These ladies offer me reassurance, and I'm grateful.

I think to move forward, we should look through positive eyes and with a grateful expectancy of reaching our own goals. In my opinion, any negative twinges should be aggressively dismissed and exchanged for kind words and cheers. Not trying to sound too deep but, we really should bless and not curse (whether openly or in our hearts). To BE blessed, be a blessing.

Hey. That's just how I roll. Choose how you walk in your own shoes.

Well stated NJOY. When I saw your progress pics last year, my mouth dropped open, but I DID NOT think to myself "hmmmm, I wonder how tall she is?". I congratulated you, searched for your regimen and moved on.
 
I never really thought much about height when considering another's progress. I look at what kind of overall transformation they made which includes improved hair health, thickness, sheen, natural transition and yearly growth rate. I make my own length goals based on what I believe I can realistically achieve in a year and I look mainly to my own progress pics for growth rate motivation. Tall or short it takes years to growth very long hair.
 
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"Stop counting other peoples' inches!":lol: My sister said this to our cousin after she made a similar comment about someone's height vs. hair length. She cracks me up :lachen:... but she's right :look:. What's happening on someone else's head has no baring on your own. Besides, the height thing is not always true. Differing torsos are what count, not necessarily height... Even when torsos differ, there usually isn't that big of a difference in terms of inches of hair needed to reach a certain goal.
 
Looks like some misunderstanding here. I don't think it's making excuses for why my hair is not at a certain length yet, at all. And when I see someone who is shorter than me with very long hair I don't automatically assume that it's due to their height. They are taking good care of their hair. Height is just ONE factor out of very many things to consider i.e. hair care practices, how often you trim, set backs etc

How come when someone who is trying to lose weight sees a skinny person they can assume, among other things, that the skinny person has a faster metabolism? Coz it may be true. I don't think the overweight person is making excuses at all. There are many factors to include in weight loss like eating habits, exercise, stress, medications etc and metabolism is one of them. I don't think that including a factor that is out of your control within your factors to consider is making excuses.
 
I don't think it's odd for one to factor in height when considering someone's hair length or length goals. Personally, I'm 5'2", and I have not had probs wit ppl saying, "Oh you make MBL or WL easily since you are short." I may be short, but growth and retention are growth and retention. True MBL on me may look like BSL on a taller woman but its not about making excuses. As for me, when I see someone with long, healthy hair I don't immediately wonder how tall they are, nor do I care! Healthy hair is healthy hair!

I think we should just embrace each other more and not hate or make excuses or whatever you want to call it. If you are tall, it may take longer to realize a certain length vs. a shorter person, but there is also no need to short change another person's goals, nor beat yourself up over being taller! :yep: Take it as a grain of salt and keep up a great regimen. Your goals with be accomplished soon enough!

P.S. My neighbor & good friend is 5'9" and she has the same WL goal of unstretched (curly/wavy) natural hair as I do. She didn't put a time limit on it, and I didn't put one on mine really...we just both work at keeping up retention and increasing growth to have healthy hair...not to race against each other or see who can realize WL fastest. :look:
 
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I'm 5'7.5". I can honestly say thay I never consider anyone's height or compare their growth with mine. I love seeing progress pics mainly because, now that I'm interested, I love looking at hair. But I post my own progress pics to be an encouragement to myself, prmarily, and to others, secondarily. Watching my own growth keeps me motivated and helps to keep hairnorexia in check. When my hair feels shorter than it is or not to be growing, I look to my own pics for motivation.

I also hang out in longer-haired threads to be continually reminded that longer lengths are not like the elusive Big Foot. Never havei wondered how tall one may be or discounted growth for such reasons. It doesn't matter. These ladies offer me reassurance, and I'm grateful.

I think to move forward, we should look through positive eyes and with a grateful expectancy of reaching our own goals. In my opinion, any negative twinges should be aggressively dismissed and exchanged for kind words and cheers. Not trying to sound too deep but, we really should bless and not curse (whether openly or in our hearts). To BE blessed, be a blessing.

Hey. That's just how I roll. Choose how you walk in your own shoes.

NJoy Ok I didn't read all that but I remember reading about your growth on another bored and someone chimed in to say....oh njoy's short thats why her hair grew so fast. Come again?! The woman is nearly 5'8 but you wanted to make yourself feel better by just calling her short as if thats the only reason why her hair grew. Of course I wasn't registered so I couldn't say that lol

BTW, I did used to look at height, until I realized Traycee and I had the same measurements. She's 5'2 and I'm 5'7. So that put an end to the whole height debate for me.
 
Looks like some misunderstanding here. I don't think it's making excuses for why my hair is not at a certain length yet, at all. And when I see someone who is shorter than me with very long hair I don't automatically assume that it's due to their height. They are taking good care of their hair. Height is just ONE factor out of very many things to consider i.e. hair care practices, how often you trim, set backs etc

How come when someone who is trying to lose weight sees a skinny person they can assume, among other things, that the skinny person has a faster metabolism? Coz it may be true. I don't think the overweight person is making excuses at all. There are many factors to include in weight loss like eating habits, exercise, stress, medications etc and metabolism is one of them. I don't think that including a factor that is out of your control within your factors to consider is making excuses.

What other reason would one have to worry about someone else's metabolism other than to provide an excuse as to why it isn't so easy for them to be effortlessly skinny? Especially when you don't know that person's dietary habits and exercise regimen. I really want to know, not being facetious. Because someone told me the other day that I cannot give advice to overweight people on losing weight because I've always been slim. Doesn't matter that I've always eaten healthy all my life and been highly active. I'm just naturally slim apparently...and they aren't. Sounds like an excuse to me:ohwell:

Yeah that last part was a mini-rant but I really would appreciate it if you could answer the question. Maybe on my personal message board since it's OT.
 
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I'll admit, I'm human, and I do compare myself to others. I try not to because it can be very discouraging. I wonder when they BC'd, did they use any growth aids, do they have a faster growth rate, maybe they exercise or have a healthier diet, did they PS for a long period of time, is their texture a bit looser than mine, or do they have less shrinkage which is why their WNG or twist out looks longer or bigger than mine :blah::blah::blah:. (My curls/coils are TIGHT, and my shrinkage has to be 50-75%, I swear!:lol:) The only thing I don't think about is height! But then I am 5'2.5", height rarely crosses my mind! I'm just very analytical, so I can't help but think of these things. But basically there are just too many factors that impact hair length, and as others have said, we just have to encourage ourselves as well as others, focus on our goals, learn how many inches we need to reach our goals, track our growth rate, and take pictures to remind ourselves of progress. These are individual goals, it's not a race with anyone. As a matter of fact after feeling kind of down on myself for the last few months I measured and realized that I'm closer to APL than I thought. Then I measured to see how many inches I needed to meet my other hair goals, and was able to come up with a chart that will help me track my growth. I feel so much better, because this is my hair on my head, and it has nothing to do with anyone else.
 
She's 5'2 and I'm 5'7. So that put an end to the whole height debate for me.

Just wanted to add that I'm 4'10, and TJ on the board is either 5'9" or 5'10", and the measurement from our crowns to our waists was only 1.5" apart. So... a 3 month difference....
But that is all I'll say about the matter.
 
I think it's great that many of you women don't compare yourself to anyone else. However, I think that comparison is a natural thing, and to say that you never do it is hard for me to believe. It's human nature. I'm not really hating on anyone tall or short for having long hair, I'm just pointing out that these are factors that come into play. So, for a short woman achieving her hair goals sooner than her tall, long necked friend, I'd let her friend know that maybe it's not your hair, maybe it's your long neck that is holding you up. LOL. Taking a holistic view of the situation may help those women who do compare understand that they may take a longer time to reach some of their hair goals [SL, BSL, MBL, etc], not because their hair care is bad, but because of their unique proportions. These women might be helped by this as opposed to thinking they need to make drastic changes to the regiment or give up on their goals.

girl i agree with everything you said especially the bolded! lets be real here! most of the people going from SL to WL in 6mos :rolleyes: are shorter than 5'8. LETS BE REAL! IT IS WHAT IT IS. Stating the obvious does not make one a hater. And that whole long torso ish is really annoying. MOST short people I see walking around on a daily basis do not have freakishly long torso. It seems like the ones insisting that your height doesnt determine your hair length are the shorter folks :look: And like I previously stated, I'm not hating. Hell, I'm excited every time someone reaches their goal and I'm right there for the porn! But by all means lets not pretend that my tall a.zz will reach HL in 8mos if I co-wash twice a day, take 40,000mg MSM, run 20miles a day, drink raw egg shakes, and bun 7 days a week like a fellow 4'9 LHCF-er... :giggle:
 
What other reason would one have to worry about someone else's metabolism other than to provide an excuse as to why it isn't so easy for them to be effortlessly skinny? Especially when you don't know that person's dietary habits and exercise regimen. I really want to know, not being facetious. Because someone told me the other day that I cannot give advice to overweight people on losing weight because I've always been slim. Doesn't matter that I've always eaten healthy all my life and been highly active. I'm just naturally slim apparently...and they aren't. Sounds like an excuse to me:ohwell:

Yeah that last part was a mini-rant but I really would appreciate it if you could answer the question. Maybe on my personal message board since it's OT.
It's called being judgmental. I'm not overweight btw, I've also always been "effortlessly skinny". I generally eat healthy most days, but there have been periods in my life where I didn't eat healthy, ate tons of fast food for weeks on end and I either gained minimal weight or none at all. Other people who do that may end up gaining 10 lbs right away. I intend to work out but I don't most of the time due to sheer laziness and lack of discipline. I can attribute SOME of my body type to diet, and SOME to a higher metabolism.

I do have friends who are overweight, and while I do notice them sometimes eating fast food or sweets a lot and not exercising, I don't judge them when they tell me I have a higher metabolism, coz it's true. Some of them have chosen to work on their weight with diet and exercise and they will lose the weight. The person who told you that you can't give advise on weight loss is partly right, because there are many other reasons why people eat like emotions and food addiction that you may not relate to.

The reason I used this analogy is because it's easy to look at someone else in a different situation and say that they are making excuses when the fact of the matter is that you're not in their shoes.
 
Height does matter, but it's moreso body composition. A 6ft person with no neck is still the same height as a 6ft person with a 6" neck. Put the same length of hair on them and it will appear as slightly different lengths according to the hair length system.

But the hair length system is just as flawed as the hair typing system. Body composition and height play a difference in what length is perceived. Some people have high waists, low waists, and no waists :look:. At the end of the day, everyone should go by their own body when measuring.
 
Just wanted to add that I'm 4'10, and TJ on the board is either 5'9" or 5'10", and the measurement from our crowns to our waists was only 1.5" apart. So... a 3 month difference....
But that is all I'll say about the matter.

Ole itty bitty girl!! I'm 5'9", too. You can't stand by me in a picture. Go over there somewhere. :lachen:
 
Am I the only one who factors a person's height into hair length goals?

I'm 5'9-5'10 with APL hair. Now when I see woman who is short, let's say 5'3 or 5'4 with MBL or longer hair, sometimes I'm hating cause I know that on me that hair would still only be APL or in between APL and MBL. I'm not really trying to hate, I guess I'm just venting. Some of us want to achieve hair goals, but don't look at the big picture when we compare ourselves to other women on the boards.

What do you all think?
I don't think torso's play a factor of all. Look more at the length of a persons neck, that will ultimately determine where the hair falls on the body. I think torso's play a part, but I know that my short neck plays a part. I'm in the military and know that I have to cut my hair shorter than most, so that it doesn't rest on my collar when I can see someone else who's hair appears longer than mine, but it's not because they're neck is longer.

It's crazy the things we come up with!!!
 
OP I understand where you are coming from. I have a small head, and a long neck so it's taking me forever to reach armpit but I'm not stressing about it anymore. I do know once I reach there I will have a lot of hair and I might not want to go any further than that especially looking at the texture and thickness I have right now. I stop trying to compare myself to others, because if I don't I would continue to be disappointed every time.
 
I don't think it matters. It's been proven on this board that women's torsos are still very similar in length no matter the height. Which makes sense seeing that swimsuits come in very general sizes. Now if we're talking about lengths past tailbone lenghth, then yea, the shorties have an advantage. lol
 
Wow, I love how one question / rant of mine produced the wonderul thread. I've learned a lot about torso lenghts in the last few pages and it's good information. And for me, this information is just another thing I'll put in my imaginary binder of information as I continue on my HHJ.

Going back to my earlier comment about hair comparison though, I guess another reason I tend to think that we compare is because all of us are on this hair board for a reason. We are on this hair board because maybe we want to trade information, learn, teach, or go through trial and error. I know I have tried new products after seeing that another poster has had healthy hair success, or has shown growth. Aren't we all guilty of that?

I think that is a form of comparison, when you say to yourself, "Hmm, her hair is flourishing when she uses that product or regimen, but mine isn't with my products or regimen. I'm gonna try that product too or adjust my reggie cause she may be on to something." :think:

Of course that comparison is not coming from a mean-spirited place, or hating on her success, but it's still making a decision to change something in your regimen after comparing your success to another poster's success. But it's also just sharing information and learning too, which is the whole point of participating on LHCF.

I guess that is just a longwinded way of me saying that all comparison is not bad, although I believe hating is bad. As soo many of you have already so eloquently said each HHJ is unique and certain types of comparison that is really just hating is not gonna help us achieve our goals.
 
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5'11 or 5'4 -Growing Hair down to your waist or to the middle of your back is still quite a feat that sadly a lot of Black women have not or will not acheive. Focus on acheiving your own goals before down playing the successes of others.

And yes, I am 5'4, but I wish somebody would tell me (once I get to MBL) that I had an "easier" ride because I am shorter...negative.
 
I can see why someone would think since a person is shorter they will reach there goals faster. I don't see it as hating its just their opinion which everyone has a right to one. If your short and you reach your goals before me CONGRATULATIONS!!! I don't care to be in peoples heads like that. I am focused on the health of mine and getting to Waist length this year. By the way I am 6'0ft tall and I think tall woman with long hair are super sexy!!:yep: so all the tall ladies get to growing :gorgeous:
 
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I can see why someone would think since a person is shorter they will reach there goals faster. I don't see it as hating its just their opinion which everyone has a right to one. If your short and you reach your goals before me CONGRATULATIONS!!! I don't care to be in peoples heads like that. I am focused on the health of mine and getting to Waist length this year. By the way I am 6'0ft tall and I think tall woman with long hair are super sexy!!:yep: so all the tall ladies get to growing :gorgeous:

#TeamTallChicks :grin: *side-eye davisbr88

LOL...jokes.
 
Whenever I take pictures with my friends, I always seem to tower above them. Even if we are all wearing heels! With that being said, I have a height challenged friend who is maybe 5'1" and I'm being generous, I wondered if her MBL hair would look as long on my if I were somehow able to take the hairs from her head and glue them to my scalp. Somehow, I think it would look shorter on me. I could be wrong, but will never know.
 
Am I the only one who factors a person's height into hair length goals?

I'm 5'9-5'10 with APL hair. Now when I see woman who is short, let's say 5'3 or 5'4 with MBL or longer hair, sometimes I'm hating cause I know that on me that hair would still only be APL or in between APL and MBL. I'm not really trying to hate, I guess I'm just venting. Some of us want to achieve hair goals, but don't look at the big picture when we compare ourselves to other women on the boards.

What do you all think?
Well Ebony, I totally agree with you. I am 6'3 and it seems like it's going to take 4+EVER to reach FULL BSL for me, let alone anything past there. I am staying positive and not comparing myself to someone who is 5'3, but instead, using it as inspiration nonetheless.
 
girl i agree with everything you said especially the bolded! lets be real here! most of the people going from SL to WL in 6mos :rolleyes: are shorter than 5'8. LETS BE REAL! IT IS WHAT IT IS. Stating the obvious does not make one a hater. And that whole long torso ish is really annoying. MOST short people I see walking around on a daily basis do not have freakishly long torso. It seems like the ones insisting that your height doesnt determine your hair length are the shorter folks :look: And like I previously stated, I'm not hating. Hell, I'm excited every time someone reaches their goal and I'm right there for the porn! But by all means lets not pretend that my tall a.zz will reach HL in 8mos if I co-wash twice a day, take 40,000mg MSM, run 20miles a day, drink raw egg shakes, and bun 7 days a week like a fellow 4'9 LHCF-er... :giggle:
Too funny! I feel you though.
 
Hey! What about folks with 8-heads instead of foreheads, like myself??? I get mad when I see someone with hair as long as mine in the front but theirs is to their chin while mine is at my nose due to extra head on me. *pouts and walks outta dis here thread*


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