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my first washngo of the year turned out great...until the weather dropped 40 degrees today.

Hopefully it will soften up. I'm going to have to break down and buy UFD gel to see if it compares to the original gel because I'm finally out of Sweet soul Magic curl stimulator gel :mad:


i'll post a picture later once I'm off work
 
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@Alma Petra I usually use her 3 n 1 conditioner or ors ghee leave in conditioner wither the biotin gel.
I did get flakes once or twice but don’t really remember what combination I used.
I think the key is to make sure your hair is soaking wet.
 
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Still washing and going...although my curls are pretty flat after a blow out & flat iron from a couple weeks ago. It takes 4-6 weeks of care to bring them back! #trauma
Anyway I'm here to find new wash n go products. After a little over 2 yrs of ORS naturals I'm ready for a change. My curls still clump and look good i guess...but I feel like I could do better. So I'll be lurking & drooling in this thread for ideas!
 
Sorry in advance for the long post ladies!

I've been natural for over a decade and I had never done a wash and go until recently. Initially I was turned off by the idea that I would have to co-wash/restyle daily. Then I heard about shingling and saw how time consuming it was and I decided wash and gos were not for me.

@YvetteWithJoy mentioned her wng process in another thread and got me interested. Then I saw someone on YT who made her wng last for two weeks. That's more my speed. So I've been trialing wngs for the past month or so.

My hair: type 4a (I think), TBL, low po, high density, medium to coarse strands

My problems:
  • I normally wash every 2 weeks and I really don't have time to wash and style more frequently, so I really need to get at least a week out of my wng and then be able to put it in a bun or something until my next wash day.
  • My hair is very, very frizzy and more kinky wavy than curly or coily, so it's really hard to find products that will give me definition and cut down on frizz
  • My hair is tangle prone so I really need a gel with a strong hold to keep the curls separated during the week, and I really have to be on the lookout for SSKs.
  • My hair is long and extremely dense, so it takes a long time to style. Because of this I'm reluctant to try a lot of different products. If my wng turns out bad and I have to redo it, that could take hours.
My process (so far):
  • Oil rinse/pre-poo - I use grapeseed oil, coconut oil, and JBCO (w/castor oil focused on the ends) - this is new to my regimen but I added it to try to combat tangles from having my hair loose for so long
  • Shampoo - I have been using Elucence MB shampoo for years. This wash day I did a Rhassoul clay mask and I loved it. I plan to alternate the clay and shampoo, so I will shampoo once a month and do the mask once a month.
  • DC - I DC with every wash. I used to use Silk Dreams VS, but now I make my own DC. This week I started adding ayurvedic powders to my DC, so we'll see if it makes a difference in my hair.
  • Detangle - I detangle in the shower (with a wide tooth seamless comb) as I'm rinsing out my DC. Thinking about moving this step to after my oil rinse to avoid manipulating my hair once the clay or conditioner is in.
  • Style - I use a leave in, creamy moisturizer, and gel. I use the shingling method and diffuse on low or cool. I'll detail the products I've tried in a separate post.
The styling process for me takes hours. Like 2 hours to shingle and another 1-2 hours to diffuse completely dry. BUT, that's still less time than I spend on any other style except a wet bun. Twists to wear out of the house take me about 5 hours to do, and I don't even make them small. And I'm low po so my hair takes days to dry if I want to do a twist out or braid out. I usually have large blocks of time where my hair can't be seen while I'm waiting for my hair to dry for a style. I had to start wearing head wraps and beanies to cover it so I can go out.

At least with the wng I have the option of leaving after 2 hours if I need to, although I prefer my hair to be dry. And I can dry for just a few minutes and then come back and diffuse the rest later. Overall it has definitely shortened my wash day and made life a little easier.

Also, I think my styling time will get shorter as I perfect my regimen. I hope so anyway.
 
First wng:
  • Shampoo: Elucence MB
  • DC: DIY
  • Leave in: As I Am
  • Moisturizer: As I Am twist defining cream
  • Gel: Eco styler Krystal
I got good definition with this combo. By day 5 I had really big hair, but I still liked it. Made it to day 6 I think before I moisturized again and put it in a bun until my next wash day.

I use my denman to spread product through my hair and help my curls form. Then I shingle. I don't think raking and smoothing would give me the same effect and my hair probably wouldn't last a week with that method, but I might try it at some point.

I pineapple at night, but I don't use a hair tie. I just push all my hair to the top of my head and put my bonnet over it. In the morning I just shake it out and go.

After a week I spray with water, moisturize with S curl, seal heavily with oil or Shea butter and bun for week two.

Second wng:
  • Shampoo: Elucence MB
  • DC: DIY
  • Leave in: Water + Aloe vera juice + castor oil
  • Moisturizer: Curls Blueberry and Coconut hair milk + As I Am twist defining cream (don't think I need both but I wanted to finish the As I Am)
  • Gel: tried Aunt Jackie's and Bronner Bros, but neither gave me any definition; ended up rinsing and using Eco styler Krystal
I got great definition with this combo. My hair was really flat on day one, but it got bigger as the week went on. Never got as big as WNG #1 though. I like the Curls hair milk a lot. I went 7 days before bunning, but I could have gone longer for sure. Even with working out and everything, this one held up really well.

Third wng:
  • Cleanser: Rhassoul clay mask - ACV, Grapeseed oil, Sweet Almond oil, AVJ, water, neem powder, brahmi powder
  • DC: DIY
  • Leave in: S curl
  • Moisturizer: Curls hair milk
  • Gel: DIY flaxseed gel + Wetline Xtreme blue gel (new formula)
The Rhassoul clay mask was wonderful. Very moisturizing and my hair was really defined even after I rinsed it out.

The flaxseed gel wasn't taming my frizz so I tried wetline. It didn't flake or bead up on me so I thought it was ok. I had to use A LOT of wetline to get definition. Way more than with Eco styler. After diffusing, my hair was really big. Like day 5-6 hair. I was just going to go with it because I didn't look bad, but the next day my hair felt really dry.

I did a quick co wash with Suave tropical coconut, then used the same conditioner as my leave in. I used Curls hair milk and As I Am to moisturize and Eco styler as my gel. The result was better. Looked more like my first wash and go. I should be able to get a week out of it now, but it will be big for sure.
 
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Day 2 hair. Damp. After conditioning with SM B.oabab and Tea Tree Oils Low Porosity con, and clay. I sprayed on a diluted TMC Green Apple Fruit Medley kids leave-in, and applied KCCC (also diluted). My hair felt notably soft after rinsing the clay, and the softness has maintained.2018-04-21_11.23.29.jpg
 
GettingKinky said:
@FoxxyLocs I hope my hair gets to be as long as yours one day. I’ve never tried shingling because I know I don’t have the pateience, but maybe one day I’ll give it a try.
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It does take a long time, but it doesn't feel like a lot of work. It's an easy process and will probably go much quicker if your hair is shorter/less dense. It's worth it for me to get my hair to last for 7+ days.
 
If anybody has a recommendation for a strong hold gel, let me know. I'd really like to replace Eco styler because I don't like the ingredients, but nothing I've tried gives me the same hold and definition. I need something that will make my hair crunchy.

I'm going to revisit the Bronner Bros gel and try using more or layering with another gel. And I'm going to try the clear Wetline Xtreme.

I really don't want to buy Kinky Curly or Miss Jessie's because of how expensive they are. I could probably get one or two washes from one container. Not very cost effective. They would be a last resort.
 
FoxxyLocs said:
First wng:
  • Shampoo: Elucence MB
  • DC: DIY
  • Leave in: As I Am
  • Moisturizer: As I Am twist defining cream
  • Gel: Eco styler Krystal
I got good definition with this combo. By day 5 I had really big hair, but I still liked it. Made it to day 6 I think before I moisturized again and put it in a bun until my next wash day.

I use my denman to spread product through my hair and help my curls form. Then I shingle. I don't think raking and smoothing would give me the same effect and my hair probably wouldn't last a week with that method, but I might try it at some point.

I pineapple at night, but I don't use a hair tie. I just push all my hair to the top of my head and put my bonnet over it. In the morning I just shake it out and go.

After a week I spray with water, moisturize with S curl, seal heavily with oil or Shea butter and bun for week two.

Second wng:
  • Shampoo: Elucence MB
  • DC: DIY
  • Leave in: Water + Aloe vera juice + castor oil
  • Moisturizer: Curls Blueberry and Coconut hair milk + As I Am twist defining cream (don't think I need both but I wanted to finish the As I Am)
  • Gel: tried Aunt Jackie's and Bronner Bros, but neither gave me any definition; ended up rinsing and using Eco styler Krystal
I got great definition with this combo. My hair was really flat on day one, but it got bigger as the week went on. Never got as big as WNG #1 though. I like the Curls hair milk a lot. I went 7 days before bunning, but I could have gone longer for sure. Even with working out and everything, this one held up really well.

Third wng:
  • Cleanser: Rhassoul clay mask - ACV, Grapeseed oil, Sweet Almond oil, AVJ, water, neem powder, brahmi powder
  • DC: DIY
  • Leave in: S curl
  • Moisturizer: Curls hair milk
  • Gel: DIY flaxseed gel + Wetline Xtreme blue gel (new formula)
The Rhassoul clay mask was wonderful. Very moisturizing and my hair was really defined even after I rinsed it out.

The flaxseed gel wasn't taming my frizz so I tried wetline. It didn't flake or bead up on me so I thought it was ok. I had to use A LOT of wetline to get definition. Way more than with Eco styler. After diffusing, my hair was really big. Like day 5-6 hair. I was just going to go with it because I didn't look bad, but the next day my hair felt really dry.

I did a quick co wash with Suave tropical coconut, then used the same conditioner as my leave in. I used Curls hair milk and As I Am to moisturize and Eco styler as my gel. The result was better. Looked more like my first wash and go. I should be able to get a week out of it now, but it will be big for sure.

First pic is a length shot and a texture shot with no product. 2nd pic is WNG #3 after I re-did it. 3rd pic is day 5 hair from WNG #1. 4th pic is day 2 hair from WNG #2.

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Wow!!! That’s a head of hair!!
 
I can’t use a leave in when I washngo. My hair will never dry. It’s too much product.

Thinking about trying a spray leave in. I liked Alikays lemongrass
 
I've been washing and going consistently for several years. Rarely do I get a "fail" any more. It's really about knowing which products play well together and what layers YOU personally need for a successful wash n go.
Today I changed most of my products and had great success with the following.
Every great wash n go begins with a good DC. Sure I advocate for a mid week cowash but my DC is at the heart of my weekly care & treatment routine.
DC: Schwarzkopf GLISS Ultra moisturizing Keratin. Loved it. Cant wait to use it again next week! It says 1-2 mind. BUT a DC means heat for me so I was under the dryer for an hour
After I rinsed the DC I begin with my base layer/leave-in. Another new addition to the reggie...Schwarzkopf GLISS Ultra Moisturizing Keratin Leavein. This is a spray application and I LOVED IT. So much slip and com bability!
My next layer is always a moisturizer and again it is new and I was skeptical. Cause I viewed tons of negative YouTube reviews AFTER I had purchased it! But Carol's Daughter Pracaxi did well for me.
Topped it all with Eco Olive Oil and dried under the dryer, a little bit with the blow dryer and then went for a walk in the park for an hour.

My hair is light yet defined and moisturized. Let's see if it makes it to my mid week wash on Wednesday.
 
Next weekend I’m going to try clay washing to see if I can herb more moisture in my hair. Maybe I’ll even do a cherry Lola first.
 
So the combination above lasted til this morning. It needs an extra layer of something to make it last longer. This morning I repeated the process except for DCing. I'll rock this for 2 or 3 days then re-do my wash n go on Friday for my b'day dinner with friends.
I like the way it feels but for me a wash n go should last AT LEAST 3-4 days. You are a bawwwsss if you get 5-7 days :)
 
I got the best wash and go ever by using the eco styler flaxseed and castor oil gel. I am amazed at how well my hair came out. I did a few things different and ugh it's just perfection. My hair is so soft and even though I cut alot of hair off last week to finally get my twists to be uniformly thick from root to tip this stuff along with layering my leave in jbco and shea butter under it gave me soooo much stretch.

This is day 2 hair

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I tried another wash and go, this time without shingling.

The thing that made the difference was detangling with my fingers instead of my comb. I used TJ Nourish Spa conditioner to co-wash, finger detangled, and rinsed. Then applied more conditioner as my leave in (while in the shower), and Curls blueberry and coconut hair milk. Split my hair into only TWO sections and used the praying hands method to smooth the product in. Then I left my hair dripping wet and got out of the shower to apply the gel. I used Eco styler argan oil gel and applied in 6 sections using the praying hands method to smooth.

It took all of 15 minutes and my hair is so defined! I didn't even need the gel for definition. The comb was basically combing all my curls out and then I was applying all the products and shingling trying to get them back. I thought my hair was naturally frizzy, but it was me making it that way. I mean it's still a little frizzy, but nothing like before.

I am super excited that I don't have to shingle to get curl definition. I had resigned myself to a 2 hour wash and go, but 15 minutes is amazing! All this time I've been natural and could not figure out why my hair would look defined with conditioner in but not after rinsing it out. I am so happy I found this thread!

I still diffused instead of air drying b/c I don't like having wet hair on my neck and my clothes. Now I can go back and retry all those gels that weren't giving me definition before.
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FoxxyLocs said:
I tried another wash and go, this time without shingling.

The thing that made the difference was detangling with my fingers instead of my comb. I used TJ Nourish Spa conditioner to co-wash, finger detangled, and rinsed. Then applied more conditioner as my leave in (while in the shower), and Curls blueberry and coconut hair milk. Split my hair into only TWO sections and used the praying hands method to smooth the product in. Then I left my hair dripping wet and got out of the shower to apply the gel. I used Eco styler argan oil gel and applied in 6 sections using the praying hands method to smooth.

It took all of 15 minutes and my hair is so defined! I didn't even need the gel for definition. The comb was basically combing all my curls out and then I was applying all the products and shingling trying to get them back. I thought my hair was naturally frizzy, but it was me making it that way. I mean it's still a little frizzy, but nothing like before.

I am super excited that I don't have to shingle to get curl definition. I had resigned myself to a 2 hour wash and go, but 15 minutes is amazing! All this time I've been natural and could not figure out why my hair would look defined with conditioner in but not after rinsing it out. I am so happy I found this thread!

I still diffused instead of air drying b/c I don't like having wet hair on my neck and my clothes. Now I can go back and retry all those gels that weren't giving me definition before.
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Your WnG looks great! When I did WnGs regularly, I learned fast that combs brushed out my curls too. Fingers for the win!
 
Hmmm. I’d just been thinking that my ouidad double detangler is hurting my curl pattern. I’m just not sure that I’m ready to switch to finger detangling. I keep hoping that since I only comb when my hair is soaking wet and covered with conditioner and the comb teeth are wide, that combing isn’t hurting my curls.
 
discodumpling said:
Still washing and going...although my curls are pretty flat after a blow out & flat iron from a couple weeks ago. It takes 4-6 weeks of care to bring them back! #trauma
Anyway I'm here to find new wash n go products. After a little over 2 yrs of ORS naturals I'm ready for a change. My curls still clump and look good i guess...but I feel like I could do better. So I'll be lurking & drooling in this thread for ideas!
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How are your curls different after a flat iron? What do you have to do to recover them?
 
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