Re: Does being a christian mean you can do wrong and ask for forgiveness and all is r
I have seen the above done, and it made me wonder if the poster was out their mind. I kept thinking is she God to tell someone else their relationship with God was wrong, or false. I guess that person felt they were all righteous.
Maybe you should ask the poster directly. They increased our pm's so there's enough room for the back and forth you obviously want. Or maybe you should let it go and K.I.M.
We are to correct each other when we err. It's not always gonna make the receiver happy but most correction doesn't. The Word of God is simple, it's plain. It's people who make it complicated. His Word is also inerrant and there are no gray areas. There are errors in the translations which is normal when translating Hebrew and Greek to other languages but the errors are not enough to change the integrity of the text. As Christians, the bible is our guide and our standard. It is for our protection to keep us from being tricked and to keep us as one with His will. God says that He and His Word are one. He also says He would destroy himself before He goes against His Word. In the N.T. He says that He has not come to change one iota of the law. He says He does not change.
As I said it's simple. If let's say, the bible says that homosexuality is an abomination and if a person says that God told them that it was ok to be homosexual then what are we to believe? The innerant Word of God or someone who is saying that God is a liar. He and His Word are one remember? So if they're saying that what was written is a lie then they're saying that God is a liar. That may not have been their intent but that's what they're saying.
Now if said person is telling this lie what are we to do. Let them go on believing this or show them what the Word says. We show them right? Otherwise the bible says that their blood is on our hands. Now if the person continues to believe the lie they're telling then that's on them, we done what God has instructed us to do. Now if this person continues in this lie, the people who believe her blood is on her hand.
Again, the Word of God is for our protection as Christians. It's simple so no matter what your level of comprehension is, you can hear it understand it. We do not need to have degrees in theology to understand it because it's plain. If someone says, "The Lord told me that we can have sex before marriage, it's OK with Him because we're gonna get married anyway."(and this has happened to many women before) what do we do? Do we say, "Well he says he's a Christian and we go to church together, he reads the bible and he prays he says he has a relationship with God so maybe God says it's ok in our stiuation?" NO! We go to the inerrant Word of God and we see where He says that we are not to fornicate and go by His Word NOT by what someone says He told them. Protected. THAT is one way(scriptural BTW) we can know as Christians whether or not a person has a true relationship with God. We hold the bible as the inerrant Word of God. Not others word or commentaries of the Word of God. If someone does not hold the WORD as inerrant (not translations) then no, they do not have a relationship with Him.
If we are unable to find the scripture we have another foolproof way to know His will. PRAYER. Yes, we pray. If "Christians" disagree on the meaning of God's Word and the scripture is disputed among us then BOTH parties are to pray and ask God to give them the correct interpretation of His Word. This is what separates Christians from nominal Christians or saved only Christians. Nominal Christians will continue to want to debate and argue their point instead of humbling themselves before the Lord and asking HIM what's right. They don't want to ask God because they do not hear from Him. Folks think because they pray they have a close personal relationship with God. Well a relationship takes two. Does he speak to you when you pray? Can you hear the voice of God when you pray? When you speak to Him does He speak back? He is not a feeling nor is He mute. What did He actually SAY to you?
Backsliding Christians would also fit into the nominal Christian catergory(also scriptural) but I'll save that for another post.
So to answer your question, yes we can tell if a persons relationship with God is false or true.
BTW
I would like to clear something up. In the same sex wedding thread. I had not read certain peoples posts before I posted my initial one. I had only scanned the first page and didn't know they posted in the thread. I prayed and asked the Lord to tell me what to say. THEY were able to see themselves in what God told me to write and became offended. The bible says that it is a mirror and shows us our own filth and when we repent it washes away our sins. It was more than one poster. Now before they say that I'm lying about that, THEY should pray, (if the can actually hear from God at times) and ask Him if I'm lying. They can also pray that whichever one of us IS lying that we be exposed before the whole board to show whether or not either of us actually knows God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ or are false or backsliding Christians.