Classic Length 2010 Challenge Part I

Lol @ the fist shake! Thanks for the encouragement ladies. I won't give up this challenge.

I made my first comparison pic using Paint:

AugMay-vi.jpg


^^^^The difference may not be very easy to see since I'm wearing different clothes but notice how my wrist and fingers are bent more upwards in the Aug 2009 pic but they are straighter and angled downwards in the May 2010 pic. My hair didn't touch my pants in August 2009 but now it sits on the top. Also, my hand on in the second pic rests more on my butt. Plus, my wash and gos hang a little lower too. It's grown a few inches. Next time I'll try to take my comparison pics in the same clothes. *blushes* *cough* *blushes* If I took naked pics you could really see the difference, but that's not possible. :giggle:

In May 2009 my hair was about waist length then by August 2009 it had made it a little past waist like in the pic above. By December of 2009 (see December 2009 folder in fotki) it was almost tailbone then in January 2010 it had reached tailbone.

I guess you can say I'm kinda spoiled, lol. I'm just so used to seeing results fast---like in a few months. My hair was dusted in March 2010 and now it's back to sitting in the top my butt crack again but I was just expecting at least an inch of new growth; it hasn't grown much.

I wonder why hair tends to grow slower once it reaches very long lengths? I've been googling people with classic and thigh length hair and many have stated that they have been growing their hair out for many years.

I'm going to stop with the length checks for now and just try to take better care of my hair.
 
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Lol @ the fist shake! Thanks for the encouragement ladies. I won't give up this challenge.

I made my first comparison pic using Paint:


^^^^The difference may not be very easy to see since I'm wearing different clothes but notice how my wrist and fingers are bent more upwards in the Aug 2009 pic but they are straighter and angled downwards in the May 2010 pic. My hair didn't touch my pants in August 2009 but now it sits on the top. Also, my hand on in the second pic rests more on my butt. Plus, my wash and gos hang a little lower too. It's grown a few inches. Next time I'll try to take my comparison pics in the same clothes. *blushes* *cough* *blushes* If I took naked pics you could really see the difference, but that's not possible. :giggle:

In May 2009 my hair was about waist length then by August 2009 it had made it a little past waist like in the pic above. By December of 2009 (see December 2009 folder in fotki) it was almost tailbone then in January 2010 it had reached tailbone.

I guess you can say I'm kinda spoiled, lol. I'm just so used to seeing results fast---like in a few months. My hair was dusted in March 2010 and now it's back to sitting in the top my butt crack again but I was just expecting at least an inch of new growth; it hasn't grown much.

I wonder why hair tends to grow slower once it reaches very long lengths? I've been googling people with classic and thigh length hair and many have stated that they have been growing their hair out for many years.

I'm going to stop with the length checks for now and just try to take better care of my hair.

CelinaStarr - So see... there is progress... I am happy...

It is ok to stop with the length checks. Your hair comes first, so i agree, take care of your hair first!:yep:

Everyone Else - On the official check-in dates, I will be the only one that has to post an update. I want everyone to feel free to post an update when you feel ready to do so.... This way there is no pressure on you. The most important thing is your hair and how you feel about it. So if you don't think you are ready for a show-and-tell, don't do it.... Just stay in the game and keep trying!:yep:
 
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@CelinaStarr.... This may be a new discovery for us.... i.e.... When the hair reaches longer lengths it does grow slower and that way it takes so long for most people to grow their hair to extremely long lengths. I will do some research on this as well.

:waytogo: This is part of our learning process....

If this is true we will just go with the flow.... even if it takes Part 10!:lachen:
 
Part 1 of Hair growth slowing down at longer lengths:

So what you might think is terminal length may in fact just be a hair stall!

All of these posts come from The LHC.... but there is a vast amount of information out there on this topic. So I will continue to research and post a part two.

From: http://archive.longhaircommunity.com/archive/index.php/t-77977.html


KiwiLiz
January 15th, 2008, 12:15 AM

My growth stalled around 29 inches, I'm happy to say that it's growing again now :) I think it's pretty normal to have growth stalls, mine only lasted 2-3 months. There is always the possibility that waist length is terminal length for you, but don't jump to conclusions yet :)

Kaif
January 15th, 2008, 01:33 AM
I'm 5'2 also, and I remember when my hair reached my waist, the growth stopped. I don't know if that was my terminal length, but this time around, I'm hoping to overcome that too

Good luck8)

Guenever
January 15th, 2008, 05:22 AM

Well, you can never know about terminal.. but if you haven't got fairy tale-ish ends yet, I doubt that you're there yet! :flower:
I stalled around 30" as well.. around 2-3 months.. I hope that you'll grow again soon!

spidermom
January 15th, 2008, 05:44 AM

It took forever for me to get to waist, too. My hair can be very slow growing some years. The last year before this that I kept track, my hair grew 5-1/2 inches in spite of trims. This past year it has grown an impressive (not) 2-3/4 inches with less frequent trims. Hang in there; a growth spurt may be just around the bend (hopefully for me, too).

Saranne772
January 15th, 2008, 05:57 AM

My hair was at (maybe just above cos I didnt measure) stalled for about 2 to 3 years. From when I was about 13 til 16. It started growing again when I started taking care of it.

I think some people do pause for a while there. I certainly did. Have you tried Biotin? It really helped me!

AlleyKitten
January 15th, 2008, 08:58 AM

I definitely had a stall just above waist. I still had a lot of crummy hair habits, so what got me out of the stall was switching to gentler shampoo and better conditioner, oiling the ends, getting rid of the brush with the little plastic balls on the tips in favor or a comb...a bunch of stuff you're probably already doing.

Beyond that, maybe some vitamins and the updo challenge? Do what you can for it, and then try not to think about your length for a while so you don't get discouraged. Good luck!

peacecat3
January 15th, 2008, 11:05 AM

I know I felt like I hovered around waist for a year or so. Sorry, I know that may not be what you want to hear, but that was my experience. The journey from BSL to waist was interminable! Console yourself with the fact that I'm several inches taller than you, though! :flower:

All I can tell you to help is to keep it up and out of your way, and protected. Take some photos every so often, or measure, whichever makes you feel better or helps you notice length. And remember--it's just hair!

jel
January 16th, 2008, 01:02 AM

My waist is at 32", and it took me *ages* to get to there from 30"! I suppose I was a bit impatient, too, but my hair has definitely slowed its speed of growth. That's why I've recently started the Monistat experiment. We'll see!

getoffmyskittle
January 16th, 2008, 10:43 AM

I paused for a while ~waist length. (I'm the same height as you and that's about where my waist is too, so it wasn't just at waist length, it was at about the same number of inches.) It will start growing again. :grin:

Anje
January 16th, 2008, 11:31 AM

I had a long stall at 27 inches, which is bottom of BSL on me (waist is 30"). I don't think I had much growth from about January or February after I joined til about May or June. I'm not sure what changed it -- I trimmed it on a Morrocco Method growth day (ends were a bit ratty, and I still don't think I buy into the idea that it works) and switched to WO washing near that time, though both of those may have nothing to do with it deciding to grow again.

The good news is that a year and another trim later, I'm at 32.5 inches. My hair has probably done more than 6 inches worth of growing this year, despite the stall, and I'm not used to it being so fast-growing. I think it's making up for lost time!

Hope your hair also decides to play catch-up when it does decide to grow, and grows nice and fast.

I think Chicoro experience a stall at waist length, but is just now reporting some growth.... so there may be vailidity to this new discovery..... and the time period of a hair stall is different for each woman.

Yamile21 reported a stall at Tailbone and is now experiencing some growth and is in this Challenge.

FlowerHair experiences hair stall as well....
 
Part 2 of Hair growth slowing down at longer lengths:

So what you might think is terminal length may in fact just be a hair stall!

"Hair growth cycle
From: http://www.hshairclinic.co.uk/hair-loss/all-about-hair/hair-cycle/


Each hair follicle lives in a cycle consisting of a long period of growth followed by a relatively short period of rest. During the rest period the hair is still attached to the hair follicle, but it is not growing. After the resting phase the hair is shed and a newer hair begins to grow, thus, starting a new hair growth cycle.

There is a genetic predisposition of each hair follicle to follow a particular pattern of growth and rest. Hair follicles are programmed to stop producing hair and spend more time in the resting stage with the progression of age."

Candy828 Thoughts.....( This resting stage is what I think the "Stall" stage... It doesn't mean terminal length at all...it just means resting... When the hair begins to grow again it doesn't necessarily mean that all of the longer older hair will shed. And while it was in the resting stage, the younger shorter hair was still growing, thus catching up to the longest length of the hair.. so the resumption of growth goes to new limits... Now, a lot of women can't or don't wait for this resumption of growth to occur and they get impatient and cut their hair. Thus, thinking they have already hit terminal length(resting stage...i.e. stall stage which the time length varies for each woman). I am still researching. But I think even the professional researchers my have over looked this point as an additional possibility besides genetics. Genetics would be the "catch all" excuse.... I hope you can understand what I am trying to say here...)

"The growth cycle of a hair consists of 3 stages:

hair_growth_cycle.jpg

1. ANAGEN (GROWING) STAGE
This is the name for the growing period of a hair follicle. The anagen stage for the hair follicles in the scalp typically lasts about 3 to 5 years.
2. CATAGEN (INTERMEDIATE) STAGE
At the end of the growth period, hair follicles prepare themselves for the resting phase. This transition period of a hair follicle from growth to rest is called the catagen stage. This stage of the hair growth cycle usually lasts about 1 to 2 weeks or so. During the catagen phase the deeper portions of the hair follicles start to collapse.
3. TELOGEN (RESTING or SHEDDING) STAGE
This is the resting period of a hair follicle. It is usually 3 to 4 months" (Candy828 - But in Part I we have seen this can be a longer or shorter period) "in length and at the end of this period older hairs that have finished their life will fall out and newer hairs will begin to grow.
The growing (anagen) phase constitutes about 90% (1000 days or more) of the growth cycle of a hair follicle, while intermediate (catagen phase; 10 days) and shedding (telogen phase; 100 days) phases constitute only 10% of it. That is, at a given time, about 10% of hair follicles are in the intermediate and shedding phases; thus, not growing. These hair follicles, however, are randomly distributed over the scalp, so that no bald spots are seen."
 
That is interesting info Candy:yep:

Because i was stuck at MBL for MONTHS and now i'm seeing growth again. Thanks for that information!! Yeah i'm gonna start using sulfate-free shampoos and being even more gentler on my hair now.
 
Get well, Candy.

I did a length check yesterday. My hair actually falls into the top of my butt crack when wet and straightened out. It's ever so very slighty longer than before my trim in March. My hair is slowly making it's way down.

ETA: I think I'm at terminal length. :( I've been around this length for at least 4 months now.... I am going to back out of this classic length challenge, but I will continue cheering you ladies on.

There's no way you're @ terminal after 4m and u just had a trim
you would have to have zero growth for 2+ yeas and no major cuts or trims
to be sure you're @ terminal. Ita w mzmomo Im giving u a fistshake for
that kind of talk :fistshake:
 
There's no way you're @ terminal after 4m and u just had a trim
you would have to have zero growth for 2+ yeas and no major cuts or trims
to be sure you're @ terminal. Ita w mzmomo Im giving u a fistshake for
that kind of talk :fistshake:


Lol @ these fist shakes! :lachen:

:fistshake: <--- I don't think I've ever seen this emoticon. Too cute.
 
Lol @ the fist shake! Thanks for the encouragement ladies. I won't give up this challenge.

I made my first comparison pic using Paint:

AugMay-vi.jpg


^^^^The difference may not be very easy to see since I'm wearing different clothes but notice how my wrist and fingers are bent more upwards in the Aug 2009 pic but they are straighter and angled downwards in the May 2010 pic. My hair didn't touch my pants in August 2009 but now it sits on the top. Also, my hand on in the second pic rests more on my butt. Plus, my wash and gos hang a little lower too. It's grown a few inches. Next time I'll try to take my comparison pics in the same clothes. *blushes* *cough* *blushes* If I took naked pics you could really see the difference, but that's not possible. :giggle:
In May 2009 my hair was about waist length then by August 2009 it had made it a little past waist like in the pic above. By December of 2009 (see December 2009 folder in fotki) it was almost tailbone then in January 2010 it had reached tailbone.
I guess you can say I'm kinda spoiled, lol. I'm just so used to seeing results fast---like in a few months. My hair was dusted in March 2010 and now it's back to sitting in the top my
butt crack again but I was just expecting at least an inch of new growth; it hasn't grown
much.
I wonder why hair tends to grow slower once it reaches very long lengths? I've been googling people with classic and thigh length hair and many have stated that they have
been growing their hair out for many years.
I'm going to stop with the length checks for now and just try to take better care of my hair.

WOW Thats great progress just hang in there a watched pot doesn't boil
just like watching your hair all the time and constant length checking makes it appear your hars no growing when it is even when the length stalls it's thickening upand shorter slower growing hair is catching up to the faster growing longer hairs.

length checks all the time drive me crazy
Just cw moisturize oil bun it and forget it in 2 monhs you'll be suprised at your progress
 
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... I'm going to stop with the length checks for now and just try to take better care of my hair.

Now that sounds like a more reasonable plan. :yep:

... On the official check-in dates, I will be the only one that has to post an update. I want everyone to feel free to post an update when you feel ready to do so.... This way there is no pressure on you. ...

Now you are giving me an excuse to continue procrastinating about getting that new camera, :lol:. I think the pressure might do *me* some good, :lol:.
 
Now you are giving me an excuse to continue procrastinating about getting that new camera, :lol:. I think the pressure might do *me* some good, :lol:.

For you Yamilee21 I make an exception! I want to see a picture!:grin: Your "Stall" period is over and I haven't seen the first picture yet!:giggle:
 
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That is interesting info Candy:yep:

Because i was stuck at MBL for MONTHS and now i'm seeing growth again. Thanks for that information!! Yeah i'm gonna start using sulfate-free shampoos and being even more gentler on my hair now.

You're Welcome... Since you have already been in the "Stall" stage and are now in the "Growth" spurt stage again...you may actually make it to Classic before you experience another "Stall"...:grin:

Happy Hair Growing! and Take super care of those percious Locks!:yep:
 
You're Welcome... Since you have already been in the "Stall" stage and are now in the "Growth" spurt stage again...you may actually make it to Classic before you experience another "Stall"...:grin:

Happy Hair Growing! and Take super care of those percious Locks!:yep:

:lachen:...u just gon MAKE me grow to Classic length huh?:laugh:

I dunno....maybe after i get my trim by either the end of the year or next year...i might try to grow to classic...but i dunno yet...i seriously think Hip Length would be suffice for me.:grin::grin::grin: I'm just ready for freshly cut ends.
 
:lachen:...u just gon MAKE me grow to Classic length huh?:laugh:

I dunno....maybe after i get my trim by either the end of the year or next year...i might try to grow to classic...but i dunno yet...i seriously think Hip Length would be suffice for me.:grin::grin::grin: I'm just ready for freshly cut ends.

Just quit procrastinating...:lachen: I already signed you up!:grin: It's ok to have fresh trimmed ends and still be in the game! When you get to hip length, we'll discuss your future....:giggle: but for now, your name stays!:lachen:...

No shortening the list please:ha:
 
Feng Shui Principles For Hair & Beauty - Part 1
Karen Marie Shelton (posted with permission)
Date: 12/5/2001 http://www.hairboutique.com/tips/tip902.htm

Introduction

Feng shui (pronounced fung shway, fung shui or feng shway depending on your roots) traces its roots back several thousand years ago to the beginning of farming and agriculture in China. When it is literally translated, the words mean wind and water and is based on living in perfect harmony with nature.

There are different published opinions about the beginnings of Feng shui. Some writers believe that it was discovered by Chinese farmers who noticed that the success or failure of their annual crops could be directly linked to how they planted. Others state that it was related to the location of burial grounds. Whether you believe the burial ground or the farmers theory, the focus was to experiment with elements to uncover the relationship of the land’s energy or Qi (pronounced chee).

The experts believe that Feng shui works by analyzing and altering the flow of energy in our environment to produce designed changes. Feng shui teaches that every physical object in our surroundings has an influence on our lives. By altering how energy of “chi” flows around and through these surrounds, we can promote happiness, prosperity, good health and good hair.

Vital Energy Force

Although I personally believe in the benefits of Feng shui, it is not a topic that should be taken lightly and I do not claim in any way to be a subject expert. While it is always beneficial to read up on Feng shui it is also not wise to undertake a major project without the help and advice of a true expert.

There has been controversy over the past few years about who the true experts really are and whom you should trust. Be careful when you seek advice from advertised Feng shui experts. There are only a few teachers in the United States who are truly qualified to teach and practice sophisticated Feng shui. Truly understanding the ancient work requires many years of study.

If you would like to read the work of some widely recognized experts, check out “A Master Course in Feng Shui” by Eva Wong or “The Feng Shui Handbook: A Practical Guide to Chinese Geomancy” by Derek Walters. Be leery of books written by authors who obviously are not trained in Chinese culture. Eva and Derek are true scholars who have committed their lives to the study of Chinese culture and proper education of the public.
Although I favor this work I have always utilized carefully selected parishioners for advice and suggestions. I have found true experts through the advice of Chinese friends and associates. While Feng shui continues to be met with skepticism by some people, large businesses and corporations like Smith Barney, Morgan Stanley, Microsoft, Shanghai and Hong Kong Banks and the Wall Street Journal have used Feng shui to improve harmony within their worlds.

Balance In Your Hair Care World

It occurred to me one day that if Feng shui could benefit business issues it could possibly help hair, skin and personal beauty challenges. After some discussion with my Chinese friends I contacted Wanda Merrill, a Dallas based Feng shui consultant, to get her thoughts about how this ancient art might influence hair and beauty related issues.
Wanda explained that in general there are three basic Feng shui principles that are required for a successful outcome of any kind.

These goals include:
1. A connection to a specific purpose
2. Balance of emotions and power
3. Proper vitality to accomplish your mission
Whether talking about business challenges or dealing with issues of hair and beauty, Feng Shui can impact the outcome if the three major goals are identified and pursued.

Connect To The Purpose

Chi energy moves through the human body as well as making its way through all areas of life including working and living spaces. The area where you shampoo, style and care for your hair and appearance is impacted by chi. Good chi can energize and inspire great results or it can dampen and destroy the efforts. If you are interested in creating a more pleasing appearance or promoting positive change in your hair, you qualify as having a specific purpose. To utilize Feng shui principles you must be connected to a specific purpose.
If hiring a trained consultant is not feasible, Wanda suggested that some basic changes can be easily made to enhance the flow of positive chi around beauty and hair issues. Feng shui can be quite complex and involves many different variables and considerations. It is important to note that Wanda’s suggestions were designed to provide general guidelines and ideas.
 
Feng Shui Principles For Hair & Beauty - Part 2
Karen Marie Shelton (posted with permission)
Date: 12/5/2001 http://www.hairboutique.com/tips/tip902.htm

Creating Balance

Since balance is a key to positive results and direction of power, Wanda pointed out that the room where all hair and beauty treatments are performed should adhere to basic Feng shui rules starting with the shape of the room. When possible it is best to do hair and beauty care in a space that is rectangular or square.
Although many Feng shui experts would probably tell you to avoid using a bathroom as your beauty and hair work area, Wanda advised that a room be used that is separated from the commode by a door that closes. A large vanity area that is separated from the actual restroom would be an excellent choice. Clutter, chaos, dirt and dust are definite negatives for creating pleasing beauty experiences. Dust bunnies hiding in corners can impact the balance and prevent positive chi to flow. The first step is to select the room where you will spend the most hair and beauty care time and then clean it avoiding the use of lots of air clogging chemicals. Remember that neatness counts. Throw out unused bottles and old hair and beauty products past their prime. Untangle cords, put hot curlers back in their case. Clean out cluttered cabinets and throw away any junk that you can find. Make a commitment to yourself that you will keep wires and cords from blow dryers untangled, neatly coiled and in their place. Adopt a regular weekly cleaning schedule to police and clean up your hair and beauty care areas.
Keep any mirrors clean and bright. If you are using a looking glass mirror for styling purposes, it should be positioned the same height as your head. Oval mirrors that are plain without any engraving or printing are best.
By adding a few simple objects and following some basic Feng shui placement guidelines, your beauty and hair space will look more attractive and you will reap the many benefits of a more positive, auspicious energy flow. When you utilize the Chinese art of placement it can definitely help achieve great hair and beauty results.

Balance Emotions And Power

The way the beauty and hair care area is arranged can either work to create ultimate goals or impede them. Establishing a special hair and beauty care sanctuary that allows for nurturing is important. The nourishment of hair and skin is as much a product of focus and intent as it is on the tools that are used. Wanda explained that Feng Shui principles utilized in beauty care areas helps bring about an energetic transfer from the hands to the body. Build a beautiful beauty and hair care work area that stimulates your visual senses and empowers you on all levels. Keep the entrance to your hair and beauty sanctuary completely uncluttered so that the energy can flow.
Your shampoo and styling stations should be positioned so that they feel relaxed and you don’t feel rushed or uncomfortable. The idea of focusing solely on creating a special beauty and hair experience is hard for many people to consider because of busy schedules and rushed timelines. Make your space into a comfortable refuge where you feel completely pampered, relaxed and cared for. Use colorful candles or accent pieces to add beauty and warmth to your special treatment room. Select colors that feel good to you. Although blue is soothing, yellow is the color or acuity and red is the color of power.

Generate Proper Vitality

Life’s daily pressures take their toll wearing down mental, physical and emotional energies. Psychologists have discovered that the human mind has the ability to shape physical reality. If you focus on changing your mind you can change your life. Generating proper attitude and vitality will take you the last mile towards your goals.
Other ways to improve your beauty creation area is through the addition of natural elements such as water, aromas, full spectrum lighting, curved lines, and special protection from electro-magnetic energies.
Add any appropriate symbols that reflect your personal signature. Plants work well to bring chi energy. Lucky Bamboo is an excellent way to attract positive energy. For centuries, Asians have considered it to be a very lucky and positive symbol. While a seven stalk Bamboo promises overall health, twenty one stalks offer powerful all-purpose blessings.
Bring in anything that inspires you and reminds you what you are trying to accomplish. This can include photos of the hair you would love the have, special soothing music or other comforting tools. Use your time in your new sanctuary to stay relaxed, calm and in control.

Summary

Will applying Feng shui principles work for everyone and their appearance? Probably not. Can they help? Most definitely.
The specific purpose of creating luxurious locks and achieving new beauty goals coupled with a sense of newly created balance and vitality may definitely assist you in producing success. Adopting the key principles of Feng shui can get you started on your path to great hair and overall beauty.

"We want the best for our Hair!" Remember "Cinnamons hair care station"? I don't know if she applies Feng Shui principles personally.... but she has it!
 
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Thanks for the well wishes.... I went to the Doctor and got some drugs so I am medicated enough to breath and function like normal!:grin:

CelinaStarr, please don't pull out of the game and don't feel pressured that your hair must perform... Let your hair do it's thing. We are here to support each other. We know this is uncharted territory for all of us and none of us know what will happen. So we should just have fun along the way and learn from each other.... I am going to put everyone in Part 1 into Part 2 as well. Everyone in Part 2 will also be in Part 3. We are just testing our hair to the limits, whatever that may or may not be... So lets give it a try! We may all be surprised at what happens!:yep:

:heart:
OK....since you put it that way....put me down for Part 3...If I make TB next year, I could continue on just to see if I can grow to Classic:yep:
 
OK....since you put it that way....put me down for Part 3...If I make TB next year, I could continue on just to see if I can grow to Classic:yep:

Yeah! Another recruit!:grin: :welcome4:to the :dance7:We are growing... Soon it will be like what FlowerHair said... "at first there were not many women at waist length and now there are many... soon there will be many at Classic Length!" I Love it!:yep:
 
Get well, Candy.

I did a length check yesterday. My hair actually falls into the top of my butt crack when wet and straightened out. It's ever so very slighty longer than before my trim in March. My hair is slowly making it's way down. It's strange how quickly it grows from bra strap to waist then waist to tailbone and just stops.

I am going to back out of this classic length challenge, but I will continue cheering you ladies on.


Don't drop out:nono: You are NOW at my ultimate length goal...so I know it is possible for you to grow longer...if you so choose:yep:
 
Candy, I'm officially subscribing to this thread for all the good info that you post alone! Keep it coming, Sensei! (ok. just got finished watchin a japanese martial arts movie. :grin:)
 
Yeah! Another recruit!:grin: :welcome4:to the :dance7:We are growing... Soon it will be like what FlowerHair said... "at first there were not many women at waist length and now there are many... soon there will be many at Classic Length!" I Love it!:yep:

Thank you for the warm welcome. I am NOW going for Classic stretched:look:. I joined the healthy ends & ceramide challenges to step up my game:yep:

HHG!:sunshine:
 
no, its not that. i ran out of glycerin like 3wks ago and the vitamin store still hasnt gotten any so i've been substituting with HE HH in my spritz. i'm thinking its either the new leave in i'm trying (i usually use HE HH or LTR but because i have skala i was trying that) or i didnt apply all my products evenly lmao

:cup:Mz.MoMo your hair juice has officially been added to my routine on the first page of this thread for the summer heat.... It has saved me more than once so far... I had to order the veg. glycerin online though and very the mix a little because of product availability.... but it works!:yep:
 
... Mz.MoMo your hair juice ...

Where is this recipe and PLEASE don't tell me to look in that crazy long juice challenge thread!

Is glycerin the key ingredient in all the "juice" products? I'm afraid of glycerin, in store-bought products and in my own mixes. Things that contain glycerin never seem to work the way they are supposed to on my hair. :perplexed
 
Where is this recipe and PLEASE don't tell me to look in that crazy long juice challenge thread!

Is glycerin the key ingredient in all the "juice" products? I'm afraid of glycerin, in store-bought products and in my own mixes. Things that contain glycerin never seem to work the way they are supposed to on my hair. :perplexed

Ok... I won't make you search..:giggle: It could be the type of glycerin used... Vegetable glycerin oil breaks down in water so you don't get the oil seperation and it's lighter. At first I tried Olive Oil... it works for a minute or two but then it seperates from the water and I get the oil on the top and everything else on the bottom of my spray bottle...:perplexed Also, I'm adding a little leave-In conditioner and VS Curl Essence to my mix...and a few drops of almond oil for fragrance! I like the smell of the almond oil!:grin:

Originally Posted by Mz.MoMo5235
well right now i'm working on keeping it simple.

so i would say make like your own moisturizing spritz with water, veg glycerin, and infusium23 (asain people use that right? so you may find it locally???)

then any type of moisturizing cond locally found as a leave in.

and uhhh, i would think asian folk get sun burns too, so you should be able to find aloe vera gel also!

that's basically what i've been doing, kind of. what's your hair type? if our hair is similar then this could work for you!
 
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There's no way you're @ terminal after 4m and u just had a trim
you would have to have zero growth for 2+ yeas and no major cuts or trims
to be sure you're @ terminal. Ita w mzmomo Im giving u a fistshake for
that kind of talk :fistshake:


yeah!!!! we're fist shaking you down chica :fistshake: TERMINAL MY BUTT!!! lol
 
Originally Posted by Mz.MoMo5235
well right now i'm working on keeping it simple.

so i would say make like your own moisturizing spritz with water, veg glycerin, and infusium23 (asain people use that right? so you may find it locally???)

then any type of moisturizing cond locally found as a leave in.

and uhhh, i would think asian folk get sun burns too, so you should be able to find aloe vera gel also!

that's basically what i've been doing, kind of. what's your hair type? if our hair is similar then this could work for you!
wow, i said "asian folk" a lot there huh... lol, gee i hope i dont offend no one :blush:
 
But the commercial products contain some generic glycerin that is not vegetable, right? I have a bottle of glycerin that I think is the commercial grade. I should have bought the vegetable glycerin I saw at WholePaycheck yesterday, to see if it works differently. :( Next time.
 
But the commercial products contain some generic glycerin that is not vegetable, right? I have a bottle of glycerin that I think is the commercial grade. I should have bought the vegetable glycerin I saw at WholePaycheck yesterday, to see if it works differently. :( Next time.

yeah, the veg kind is loads better. i used to use the commercial grade too and while it was fine, i saw a difference with the veg and that's when it became a staple prod. again, i only use the cond in place of veg glyc when i run out... like now :nono:
 
:cup:Mz.MoMo your hair juice has officially been added to my routine on the first page of this thread for the summer heat.... It has saved me more than once so far... I had to order the veg. glycerin online though and very the mix a little because of product availability.... but it works!:yep:

YAY!!!! i swear by this mix i tell yah :yep:
 
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