Classic Length 2010 Challenge Part I

Sigh, I wish I were ready for this challenge :cry3: but just reaching tailbone this year will be kinda a stretch for me. Next year, though, it is ON. Classic length will be mine, I tell you, all mine! Mwahahaha!
 
Sigh, I wish I were ready for this challenge :cry3: but just reaching tailbone this year will be kinda a stretch for me. Next year, though, it is ON. Classic length will be mine, I tell you, all mine! Mwahahaha!

great to see you back, hope your doing OK too.
 
Helpful Tip For Your Nape Hair: If you are wearing a protective style like a bun.... if you condition and braid the hair at the nape and make sure it stay's oiled, the nape hair will start catching up with the rest of your hair's length. My nape hair is now a little past waist length! So give it a try ladies!


Remember... those of you in humid climates, Humidity is your best friend. Even if the hair won't behave!:beach:
 
Ok I actually measured last night
and CL is 4-5 inches away from TL for me.
So I guess once I reach TL CL is an achievable length
who'd have thought that. I actually saw a CL lady middle aged
in the flesh today do u know how hard that is maybe it's a sign
what do uladies think?
 
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Ok I actually measured last night
and CL is 3-4 inches away from TL for me.
So I guess once I reach TL CL is an achievable length
who'd have thought that. I actually saw a CL lady middle aged
in the flesh today do u know how hard that is maybe it's a sign
what do uladies think?

it must be a sign cause i saw one too!!! :grin: that means we're gonna make it easy peasy!!!
 
wait... i tried measuring from tl to cl and i dont think i did it right. tl is like where your butt crack starts right? and cl is where your butt ends and legs begin right? cause from crack to end i have like 8 freakin inches!!!! I CANT BE MEASURING RIGHT!!! that will take forever!!!!
 
wait... i tried measuring from tl to cl and i dont think i did it right. tl is like where your butt crack starts right? and cl is where your butt ends and legs begin right? cause from crack to end i have like 8 freakin inches!!!! I CANT BE MEASURING RIGHT!!! that will take forever!!!!

there no way you've got 8 inches of booty from start to end of
butt crack unless your keytoy lol
don't measure the roundness you have to hold a pencil or ruler
right under he butt then measure it hasto be away from your body a little
did that make sense
 
there no way you've got 8 inches of booty from start to end of
butt crack unless your keytoy lol
don't measure the roundness you have to hold a pencil or ruler
right under he butt then measure it hasto be away from your body a little
did that make sense

it made sense... i'mma go try now!!!
 
This is one time where my height is a disadvantage!:perplexed I am about 5 ft. 8 in. My hair has to cover a lot of ground!:rolleyes:
 
it must be a sign cause i saw one too!!! :grin: that means we're gonna make it easy peasy!!!

Definitely a sign, this ladies hair was healthy, thick type 1, and light auburn, no see through, scraggly ends, just lovely from roots to ends. I was trying not to stare.
Glad it's just a 4 inch distance for you, were pretty much in the same boat here. lol

@ Candy
I'm tall too 5'9 so the longer distance for me is passing WL even though my torso is average once I do that everything else is close together only 2-3 inches apart so it'll be easy as pie.
 
Definitely a sign, this ladies hair was healthy, thick type 1, and light auburn, no see through, scraggly ends, just lovely from roots to ends. I was trying not to stare.
Glad it's just a 4 inch distance for you, were pretty much in the same boat here. lol

@ Candy
I'm tall too 5'9 so the longer distance for me is passing WL even though my torso is average once I do that everything else is close together only 2-3 inches apart so it'll be easy as pie.

Good!:grin: So we are probably about the same when you average it out.... my top is shorter but the bottom goes on forever... I have a 34 inch inseam.
 
I did not know there was such a thing as "Over Baggying your Hair"... So I learned something new.... According to this article...Yes.

I am in a humid climate with product in my hair so it is moisturized every day....maybe because it's wet then air dry then wet again...Sometimes my hair is dripping wet from the humidity... I guess I am trying to understand the difference...


[FONT=굴림]the baggy method: handle your split ends[/FONT]

[FONT=굴림]From: [/FONT][FONT=굴림]http://www.kisforkinky.com/2008/08/the-baggy-method-handle-your-split-ends/[/FONT]

[FONT=굴림]If your ends are busted because your [/FONT][FONT=굴림]hair[/FONT][FONT=굴림] is dry or just because you have color in your hair (I’ve seen this with many naturals — color dries their ends out), then you probably will benefit from the Baggy Method.[/FONT]

[FONT=굴림]You can couple the moisturizer below with this easy treatment for your ends and you should notice a difference within a month or so.[/FONT]
[FONT=굴림]This method is super easy and fast. Some ladies like to do it overnight, others all day. You can decide how and when you do it. Best of all, you can share this tip with your relaxed friends too![/FONT]

[FONT=굴림]Step ONE: Wet your ends – they should be soaking wet and then pat them dry with a towel (this opens up the cuticle). Apply quarter size amount of your favorite [FONT=굴림]moisturizer[/FONT] to your hand. I use my S-Curl mix and this is also the popular moisturizer for this treatment. You can also use just a plain glycerin and water mix: 1 part water to 1 part glycerin.[/FONT]

[FONT=굴림]Step TWO: Apply the moisturizer to your ends. Rub in really well.[/FONT]

[FONT=굴림]Step THREE: Apply and oil on top of the section you just moisturized to SEAL the moisture in. I do NOT advocate for grease and vasoline, only naturally occurring oils. I use either coconut or olive oil – extra virgin is my fave.[/FONT]

[FONT=굴림]Step FOUR: Baggy your ends by putting a ponytail in your hair and braiding the moisturized and sealed section in a semi tight braid. Once done, apply a sandwich bag over your pony and wrap it closed with a Ouchless band from Goody. You can find them at any store normally. You can either make one or two low ponys.[/FONT]
[FONT=굴림]Remove the baggy in the AM and you ends should not take too long to dry.[/FONT]

[FONT=굴림]If you want to baggy throughout the day, just place your ponytail where you normally would in your head, baggy our ends and place a phony pony weave extension over it to hide the plastic bag.[/FONT]
[FONT=굴림]If you want to baggy your whole head apply the moisturizer to you entire head and seal with the oil. Place a plastic shower cap over your head and tie it down with a head band, skinny or wide works, or tie it up with a scarf before bed – to avoid it slipping off overnight. Rinse out in the AM.[/FONT]

[FONT=굴림]You can also do this while in your own natural braids.[/FONT]
[FONT=굴림]Don’t over baggy as it can cause your hair to be over moisturized and mushy. Be sure to feel your hair everyday to check the moisture balance.[/FONT]

[FONT=굴림]Once you get your ends healthy, be sure to baggy less often, cutting back to 1-2 times a week or so.[/FONT]
 
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Ok so Maybe I found the answer to my "Baggy Question".... I think the products I use act as a sealant on my cuticles so that I don't get "over moisturized" and I don't sleep on soaking wet hair every night... My hair does swell and contract because of the moisture...

[FONT=굴림]Hair Care in Humid climate[/FONT]

[FONT=굴림]From: http://www.hairstylescut.com/healthy-hair/humid-climate.htm[/FONT]

[FONT=굴림]Whatever your hair type, your hair swells and expands when it's wet and behaves in the same way in a humid climate, where the air is full of moisture. Humidity will make hair fluffy and, if it's prone to curling, it will cause frizziness. All hair types will benefit from a pre-holiday conditioning treatment in the salon to nourish the hair shafts and seal the cuticles. Preventing excess moisture from entering the hair shaft in a humid climate is key. [/FONT]



[FONT=맑은 고딕]Hair Care for Fine hair in Humid climate[/FONT]



[FONT=굴림]This tends to get weighed down by the moisture in the air and looks flat and limp. Just as with other hair types, you need to block out the humidity if you can. [FONT=굴림]A pre-holiday salon treatment[/FONT] will help to reduce split ends and close the cuticles that allow water to enter the hair shaft. Use a light leave-in conditioner on your hair while you are away (apply it from mid-way down the length of your hair to the ends) and seal the ends of the hair after blow-drying with a serum. [/FONT]
[FONT=굴림]Be careful not to use too much serum on fine hair - a blob the size of your thumbnail is more than enough, hairsprays are a great SOS option for a bad-hair day in humidity - they instantly hold down the cuticle of the hair and prevent moisture from entering the hair shaft. [/FONT]


[FONT=맑은 고딕]Care for Curly and frizzy hair in Humid climate[/FONT]



[FONT=굴림]Sealing the outside of your hair - the cuticle - is the only way you will minimize the candyfloss look while you are away. A pre-holiday deep-conditioning treatment is a must. Make sure you pack a creamy leave-in conditioner for your trip and use it religiously every morning. Using an anti-frizz serum will help bring unruly curls to heel. It coats the hair shaft with silicone, not only sealing the cuticle but also weighing the hair down a little. [/FONT]


If your hair is really frizzy[FONT=굴림], try working some serum through it while it is still wet before blow-drying. This should add some weight to the curls and seal the cuticles so that your hair does not absorb water, swell and frizz again as it dries. If you decide to go with the flow and make the most of your curls while you're away, mix gel and serum together in the palm of your hand and apply it throughout the hair to give the curls extra definition and shape. [/FONT]
 
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"Over Moisturization" is not a bad thing... Each woman can judge her own "bad hair" days vs "good hair" days... limp vs body...etc.. I'd rather have more moisture than not enough. I can deal with a "bad hair" day... But if I have breakage, I will start freakin OUT!:grin:

[SIZE=+3]Super-Hair.Net[/SIZE][SIZE=+2]Hair Headlines: Fiber Moisturization Imbalance[/SIZE]

From http://www.super-hair.net/fmi.html

Quotes from the article:

In the wake of the first deep freeze of 2003, dermatologists report a dramatic spike in the number of cases of the clinical condition known as fiber moisturization imbalance, which attacks the hair of half of all American women.

From dry hair in Denver to dull hair in Dallas; from "matte head" in Minneapolis to "hat head" in Hartford, doctors say this season's barrage of Arctic blasts are posing severe winter hair health hazards to women.

Dr. Marta Rendon, Associate Professor of Clinical Dermatology, University of Miami, says until now there has been minimal progress in treating fiber moisturization imbalance. However, she says today there is new hope for millions of women suffering from "bad hair days" everyday of the year.

"Fiber Moisturization Imbalance is a clinical condition that affects nearly 50 percent of all American women," Rendon said. "Fiber Moisturization imbalance is when the hair is either over moisturized or under moisturized. It's symptoms are dry, dull, brittle, unmanageable hair. What we found in our research with weightless moisturizers in.... products, is that it corrects the problem of Fiber Moisturization imbalance and it restores volume, vibrancy and moisture to the hair, without weighing the hair down.

"Infusing moisture into the hair has been very difficult until now," Rendon added. "What we have found in our clinical research with weightless moisturizers in.... products is that this formulation actually penetrates the hair cuticle and it helps restore the moisture and body that the hair needs.

"Moisturizing your hair all year long is very important, especially during the winter. The air outside is cold and dry, and when you go back inside, its hot inside. This creates a hair health hazard. Our clinical research with weightless moisturizers in.... products has shown that they actually restore the moisture that winter takes away from a women's hair, without weighing it down. The outcome is healthy beautiful hair."

RESULTS OF NATIONAL HAIR SURVEY
* FMI strikes 50% of U.S. women of all hair types
* FMI occurs when hair is over-moisturized or under-moisturized; colored hair is highly susceptible
* Symptoms: flatness, limpness, dullness, dryness, unmanageable hair
* 50% say they switch hair care brands monthly
* 82% say shampoos and conditioners weigh down hair
* 70% say moisturizers are the most important ingredients; fruit and vegetable extracts and vitamins were deemed less important
* 50% have tried peanut butter, avocado, egg whites and mayonnaise to moisturize hair
 
::sneakin in::

Lord knows i'm not reaching classic till 2012 at best, I'm just subbin so I can drool on the regular.... so umm er aaahhh... POST PICTURES!!!
 
wait... i tried measuring from tl to cl and i dont think i did it right. tl is like where your butt crack starts right? and cl is where your butt ends and legs begin right? cause from crack to end i have like 8 freakin inches!!!! I CANT BE MEASURING RIGHT!!! that will take forever!!!!

:lachen:

You have me ROTF over here!....I am calling it quits at Tailbone/ Stretched!
This way I can have WL Curly...I am not wanting to catch hair in the wrong places........:drunk:
 
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You have me ROTF over here!....I am calling it quits at Tailbone/ Stretched!
This way I can have WL Curly...I am not wanting to catch hair in the wrong places........:drunk:

Ewww I just got the visual TMI dude
you just have to swing that hair over :lol:
 
This is an interesting article...

Should the FDA Regulate your Vitamins? Part I
by: Al Sears, MD
From: http://www.alsearsmd.com/should-the-fda-regulate-your-vitamins/

Quote from the article...

"Congress is pushing for the FDA to regulate your use of vitamins and supplements.

Considering the downright scary job the Food & Drug Administration has done with regulating drugs, do you want them telling you how to make healthy choices?

Remember Vioxx? Merck pulled it from the market because it posed a heart risk. But not until it had been on the market for 5 years, prescribed 105 million times, and killed as many as 57,000 people – even though Merck and the FDA knew of the risk.1

And then there are the seizure drugs used to treat anxiety and depression that double your risk of suicide.2 It took the FDA more than 70 years to start warning doctors about this serious risk.

There’s a laundry list of the FDA’s negligence when it comes to the drugs they oversee. So why would Congress want to give them more authority over the vitamins you take?

In fact, they can’t even get the recommended daily allowance (RDA), its official guidance on how much of a vitamin you should take, right. The world-renowned journal, Archives of Internal Medicine, just ran three articles that prove the FDA has no idea what makes a good daily intake."

"You Need 415 Times the RDA of This Vitamin to Protect Your Eyes & Heart

One of the most glaring shortfalls in the RDA is for B vitamins. B vitamins play a critical role in heart health by reducing the amino acid homocysteine, which contributes to heart attack, stroke, and pulmonary embolism.3 Plus, B vitamins help keep your eyes healthy.

The FDA says you should get a combined 400 mcg of folic acid (folate), 1.3 mg of vitamin B6 and 2.4 mcg of vitamin B12 every day.
But a recent study published in the Archives of Internal Medicine shows that you would need as much as 415 times the FDA’s recommended daily intake to have any real benefit.

The study showed an 18% decrease in homocysteine, as well as a 35% to 40% reduction in age-related eye disease.4

So how does the vitamin intake used during this study stack up against what the FDA says will keep you healthy? Take a look:

Vitamin FDA’s/RDA Study Amount Difference
folic acid 400 mcg 2.5 mg 525%
vitamin B6 1.3 mg 50 mg 3746%
vitamin B12 2.4 mcg 1 mg 41567%

As you can see, you’d need 525% more folic acid, 3,746% more vitamin B6, and an astounding 41,567% more vitamin B12 than the FDA currently recommends in order to get the benefits seen in this study.
And B vitamins aren’t the only critical nutrients where the FDA’s recommended daily intake misses the mark.

This Vitamin Slows Aging, Repairs Cells and Boosts Immunity But Only At Certain Levels



Vitamin C has a host of benefits:
  • Fights free radicals before they can do damage
  • Maintains body structure by being an important ingredient in collagen (collagen’s integrity is dependent on vitamin C)
  • Helps the immune system
  • Aids the nervous system
  • Helps to break down histamines – the inflammatory element of allergic reactions
Plus, vitamin C can protect your telomeres as well.
Telomeres are a protective cap on the ends of DNA strands. When cells divide, the telomeres get shorter in the process. If they don’t ever get repaired, then they just get shorter until they aren’t protecting the DNA anymore.

In 1998, a Japanese study found that raising the level of vitamin C in the cells could slow down the loss of telomeres up to 62%.5
But the RDA – 75 mg for adult women and 90 mg for adult men of vitamin C per day – is not enough to slow telomere loss.

The telomere-preserving, anti-aging benefit of vitamin C appears to begin at about 500 mg, twice a day. That’s a whopping 1011% more than the FDA’s recommended dose for adult males.

Another study showed a 19% decrease in age-related eye disease for a group taking a combination of vitamins and minerals, including a 500 mg dose of vitamin C.6
This Mineral Protects Steel AND Your Body

Zinc was also part of the combination used in the eye study. They took 80 mg of zinc every day — 627% more than the RDA. This critical nutrient helps make your cell membranes healthy, influences your body’s hormone control and keeps your DNA organized.

When it comes to keeping you healthy, zinc is second only to iron in concentrations in the body. It helps in the production of hundreds of enzymes that are responsible for regulating your bodily functions.
The prostate has the highest concentration of zinc in the body. And a deficiency has been linked to inflammation of the prostate known as prostatitis

Zinc, like vitamin C, also has anti-aging benefits. It’s essential for making superoxide dismutase (SOD), the most potent antioxidant your body has.
It gives your skin a more youthful look, too. Zinc is essential for your body to use collagen, which makes your skin more resilient and elastic—to fight off wrinkles and saggy skin.

Zinc also keeps your vision sharp by transporting vitamin A to the retina, improving night vision. And it protects retinal cells from free radical damage while helping to slow down the progression of age-related macular degeneration (AMD).




The list of zinc’s crucial role in your health is long, including:
  • Promote a healthy immune system
  • Growth of reproductive organs
  • Fertility and conception
  • Prevent acne and regulate the activity of oil glands
  • Aid in protein synthesis and collagen formation
  • Cell reproduction and wound healing
  • Perception of taste and smell
  • Protect the liver from chemical damage
  • Bone formation
  • Maintain both vitamin E and vitamin A in the blood"
 
Should the FDA Regulate Your Vitamins? Part II
by: Al Sears, MD
From: http://www.alsearsmd.com/should-the-...your-vitamins/

Quote from the article...

"If you stick to the FDA’s advice, you’ll never receive the full benefits of these incredible nutrients.


Nature Says You Need 250; The FDA Says 5 Is Enough

The Archives of Internal Medicine published another study that highlights the FDA’s basic inability to understand how the body works – let alone what keeps it healthy.

The study found that people with healthy levels of vitamin D get 29% fewer upper respiratory infections than people with low levels.7 But what’s a healthy level?

Your body produces 250 mcg of vitamin D from just 15 minutes of sun exposure. If you only “need” 5 mcg of vitamin D, according to the FDA, why does your body produce 50 times more than that?
Now, we might buy that the FDA knows that the body can produce enough vitamin D just by going out in the sun. And therefore doesn’t tell people to get much more through diet or supplements.
But, with three out of four Americans deficient in vitamin D and a 20-year national government campaign against sun exposure ongoing, don’t you think they should have increased their recommended intake by now?
The One the FDA Forgot

There’s just one more critical nutrient to bring to your attention…
This nutrient is necessary for the basic functioning of cells. And every single organ in your body uses this nutrient to get the energy they need to function.




As if that weren’t enough, it also:
  1. Destroys free radicals in the cell membranes
  2. Prevents arteriosclerosis by protecting against the accumulation of oxidized fat in blood vessels
  3. Successfully treats heart disease, high blood pressure, and high cholesterol
If your body doesn’t have enough, it will have serious consequences. In fact, the Mayo Clinic noted this critical nutrient is “low in patients with some chronic diseases such as heart conditions, muscular dystrophies, Parkinson’s disease, cancer, diabetes, and HIV/AIDS.”8

Yet the FDA completely ignores it. I’m talking about CoQ10.
In spite of the fact that the only dietary source for CoQ10 is red meat, the FDA doesn’t list an RDA for it at all.

Considering how many people are vegetarians or vegans, you’d think the government would think it vital to make sure people are getting enough of it.

Plus, even if you eat meat, you probably still aren’t getting enough CoQ10 in your diet. I ran some numbers on my test results over the years and discovered a remarkable fact: 82% of my new patients don’t have anywhere near enough CoQ10.

The chances are good that you don’t have enough either.

What You Can Do

The best way for you to get the bulk of the nutrients you need is through your diet. However, today’s fruits and vegetables are less nutritious than they once were. And today’s grain-fed beef and farm-raised fish are also lower in the critical nutrients you need.
Be sure to get your foods from the right sources. As a general rule of thumb, always choose organic for fruits and vegetables. When it comes to your protein, look for grass-fed beef and wild-caught fish.
You can also take supplements. Specifically…
B Vitamins. Take the following daily:
40 mg of B2 – Good for blood cell formation and cataract prevention.
50 mg of B6 – Boosts brain and immune function and helps prevent cancer.
500 mcg of B12 – Helps digestion and prevents anemia and nerve damage.
800 mcg of folic acid – Helps cell production and prevents dementia. Folic acid is the supplement. Folate only comes from your food. Eat lots of green leafy foods like spinach, turnip greens, or broccoli. Calf liver is also a good source.

Vitamin C. Humans don’t naturally produce vitamin C. We are dependant on getting vitamin C from our diet or supplements.
You can get vitamin C from lots of foods including oranges, strawberries, broccoli, and bell peppers (the colorful ones are better than green). You can get your minimum daily requirement from food.

But to get antioxidant amounts, you’ll have to take a supplement. I recommend at least 500 mg twice a day. Many of my anti-aging patients are taking 2-5,000 mg per day in divided doses. Take it with food to avoid an upset stomach.

Zinc. You need at least 30 mg per day – 60 mg is even better. A 12-oz steak can give you between 15 mg and 30 mg of zinc. Oysters and clams are also a great source of zinc and other minerals. A 3.5-oz serving of oysters has close to 40 mg of zinc.

Vitamin D. If you can’t get out in the sun for 15 minutes a day, you can ramp up vitamin D through diet.

Fish are a great source. Here’s a list, including amounts of vitamin D:
Selected Food Sources of Naturally Occurring Vitamin D
Food Source Amount Vitamin D
Cod Liver Oil 1 tablespoon 1360 IU
Salmon (cooked) 3.5 ounces 360 IU
Sardines (canned) 3.5 ounces 270 IU
Tuna (canned) 3 ounces 200 IU
Egg (yolk) 1 egg 25 IU
Beef Liver (cooked) 3.5 ounces 15 IU
Swiss Cheese 1 ounces 12 IU

As you can see, a daily tablespoon of cod liver oil is by far the easiest way to get your vitamin D.

CoQ10. The best source of CoQ10 is red meat, especially organ meats like the liver. The problem is eating a lot of organ meat is that they tend to contain the most toxins and other pollutants. The best way to make sure you’re getting enough CoQ10 is to take a supplement."
 
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