The pincurl method in my forki thats posted on healthy textures. I did this method and have worn a curly updo for the past 2 days. Everyone loves it and cannot believe I didnt use rods or heat. I can honestly say when I want tight curls it works. My curls shrink up to SL when I take the curls down and by mid-day they have dropped to compliment my length. If i want loose curls I pincurl the traidtional way but this way is great for tight curls!!! FoxyRoxie has pic of it in her fotki too.