BSL 2013 Challenge

KiWiStyle said:
Thanks, I needed to hear this! Hopefully I can last at least a year.

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I just took it one touch up at a time. The thing that bothered me most was that my texlaxed hair looked dull compared to my super straight shiny relaxed hair. And when I pulled my hair back into a bun or ponytail, the hair on the top of my head puffed up. But now that I don't have the line of demarcation right on top of my head it's all good. :-)
 
GettingKinky said:
I just took it one touch up at a time. The thing that bothered me most was that my texlaxed hair looked dull compared to my super straight shiny relaxed hair. And when I pulled my hair back into a bun or ponytail, the hair on the top of my head puffed up. But now that I don't have the line of demarcation right on top of my head it's all good. :-)
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Yes! That dullness drives me nuts but it's mostly the area just above my nape that's driving me insane.

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Still bunning, but I think I'm going to wear my hair out 3-4 days a week in 2014. I'm going to trim an inch every 8 weeks so I don't need to protect my ends.
 

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i have an appointment at a salon this friday. after 6 years natural and not getting touched by a professional salon im excited!! ok they will not be doing my hair friday. its the diagnostic first. they check your hair,scalp, tell you what you will need,then they give you the quote. all this is free of course. if i decide i want to get my hair done after all the information then i take a second appointment o do the hair. its the only salon in Paris that uses Mizani. it is more expensive than other salons but it seems good. and its at the galeries lafayette ( luxury stores,beautiful decoration,big place) of you ever come to paris,visit it for shopping lovers.
 
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gvin89 said:
As I mentioned, had my hair straightened so decided to do a length check. What say you?
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Your hair looks lush girl

After a straightening fail I'm dcing and wearing my hair tied up and hidden for this week until the weekend and I will attempt to straighten again. Soooooo frustrating!!! Either I'm doing something wrong or my hair she has a mind of her own - rebellious madame :#
I also wanted to do a henna treat aswell, slightly hooked on henna, I hope I don't over do it though! I really love the results even though is so messy.
Ahh rant over!!
 
what do you ladies think of this price:

186$ for relaxing virgin /natural hair at a salon... the details below( they really count everythig alone)!

- relaxer (no lye): 89$
-extra charge for virgin hair : 23$
-shampoo: 16$
-cut: 24$
-hairstying: 33$

wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i had not been in a salon for 6 years so im not used to the prices but isnt this excessive????

i might end up self relaxing........

tell me what you think please
 
coolsista-paris said:
what do you ladies think of this price:

186$ for relaxing virgin /natural hair at a salon... the details below( they really count everythig alone)!

- relaxer (no lye): 89$
-extra charge for virgin hair : 23$
-shampoo: 16$
-cut: 24$
-hairstying: 33$

wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i had not been in a salon for 6 years so im not used to the prices but isnt this excessive????

i might end up self relaxing........

tell me what you think please
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That price is wayy to high. Keep shopping around
 
lamaria211 said:
That price is wayy to high. Keep shopping around
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i tried 3 quality salons: not the same brand but all at over 150$ !!

the only cheap ones are at cheap salons in paris with unqualified hairdressers that dont respect basics. my mom lost her apl hair after relaxing it at one of those... a week after her relaxer the hair all came out and she shaved. people only go there for braids.

i find it expensive here. maybe i should do it myself then jut go for a cut.
 
coolsista-paris said:
i tried 3 quality salons: not the same brand but all at over 150$ !!

the only cheap ones are at cheap salons in paris with unqualified hairdressers that dont respect basics. my mom lost her apl hair after relaxing it at one of those... a week after her relaxer the hair all came out and she shaved. people only go there for braids.

i find it expensive here. maybe i should do it myself then jut go for a cut.
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I would just self relax. Those sort of prices? Nope not doing it
 
TheNDofUO said:
I solid just self relax. Those sort of prices? Nope not doing it
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i told hubby tha price .... his ànswer:
thats 186$ !!

then i was like yup.... and we have to buy christmas gifts.... food and drinks for christmas to celebrate... housing taxes are due for december....

they are crazy crazy here! my only solution is to self relax .. ii have to search so hard before next friday( relaxer day) i dont even know where to start
 
coolsista-paris said:
i told hubby tha price .... his ànswer: thats 186$ !! then i was like yup.... and we have to buy christmas gifts.... food and drinks for christmas to celebrate... housing taxes are due for december.... they are crazy crazy here! my only solution is to self relax .. ii have to search so hard before next friday( relaxer day) i dont even know where to start
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SELF RELAX!!! Lol . I did that this time last year. Are relaxing or texlaxing?

NGraceO
 
NGraceO said:
SELF RELAX!!! Lol . I did that this time last year. Are relaxing or texlaxing? NGraceO
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i think i should relax at about 80-90% . as i plan to wear it mostly straight and avoiding heat ( fine -medium hair)

thats still called relaxer isnt it?

the salon wasnt capable of answering these questions and they want 186$ ?!
 
coolsista-paris said:
what do you ladies think of this price: 186$ for relaxing virgin /natural hair at a salon... the details below( they really count everythig alone)! - relaxer (no lye): 89$ -extra charge for virgin hair : 23$ -shampoo: 16$ -cut: 24$ -hairstying: 33$ wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i had not been in a salon for 6 years so im not used to the prices but isnt this excessive???? i might end up self relaxing........ tell me what you think please
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They're charging EXTRA for shampooing?!? This almost made me curse...so how the heck do they plan to remove the relaxer from your hair?? Is washing the relaxer out optional like the other add-ons?? I'd pass on those greedy, money hungry so-n-so's. They have a hustle going on and you are about to get hustled.


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coolsista-paris said:
i tried 3 quality salons: not the same brand but all at over 150$ !! the only cheap ones are at cheap salons in paris with unqualified hairdressers that dont respect basics. my mom lost her apl hair after relaxing it at one of those... a week after her relaxer the hair all came out and she shaved. people only go there for braids. i find it expensive here. maybe i should do it myself then jut go for a cut.
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Well if your only other alternative besides self-relaxing is going to a high priced salon then I'd just eat the cost and then SR after that. The virgin relaxers can be kinda tricky, I wouldn't trust myself to do my own.

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When I get a touch up + color rinse I pay $120. So although $189 is a bit high I'm not surprised they charge that much for virgin hair.
 
KiWiStyle said:
They're charging EXTRA for shampooing?!? This almost made me curse...so how the heck do they plan to remove the relaxer from your hair?? Is washing the relaxer out optional like the other add-ons?? I'd pass on those greedy, money hungry so-n-so's. They have a hustle going on and you are about to get hustled. Sent from my iPhone using LHCF
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i was surpeized at too for the extraa charge shampoo!!! what the heck!
and that was the only brand using mizani! mr frank provost is too expensive at the salon for blacks.
i live the products at the grocery store though ( correct price for good very good ceramide conditionner),but te salon!!! back at my relaxed days i never heard the price this high :-/
that was 6 years ago....
 
KiWiStyle said:
Well if your only other alternative besides self-relaxing is going to a high priced salon then I'd just eat the cost and then SR after that. The virgin relaxers can be kinda tricky, I wouldn't trust myself to do my own. Sent from my iPhone using LHCF
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i thought is was kinda easy.
i put my conditionner in as if im relaxing. i do 8 sections. 4 at the left side of hair,4 the right side. a do half half method when i dc.

i really wanted this done the first week of december....... i was excited! but now im here thinking of what to do. of things i càn spend for christmas with all that money.
i was willing to put 100-120$

im gonna contact a friend and ask for the number of a stylist that used to style at her own appartement. it was fine then.. she was correct but... does she still do it...... and i wonder how much she will ask me. i also have a dominicàn friend that relaxes a friend if ours but she had a baby just 3 months ago. i am not gonna disturb her. she needs rest.
 
coolsista-paris said:
i was surpeized at too for the extraa charge shampoo!!! what the heck! and that was the only brand using mizani! mr frank provost is too expensive at the salon for blacks. i live the products at the grocery store though ( correct price for good very good ceramide conditionner),but te salon!!! back at my relaxed days i never heard the price this high :-/ that was 6 years ago....
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@coolista-paris ITA with the other posters - those prices are utterly ridiculous. I see stylists and hair care professionals taking advantage of ethnic women going "natural " by exploiting it for their profit.

If we refuse to patronize and support those salons - perhaps they will get the message.

I don't know about anyone else - but I find these prices insulting and certainly not justifiable.
 
ilong said:
@coolista-paris ITA with the other posters - those prices are utterly ridiculous. I see stylists and hair care professionals taking advantage of ethnic women going "natural " by exploiting it for their profit. If we refuse to patronize and support those salons - perhaps they will get the message. I don't know about anyone else - but I find these prices insulting and certainly not justifiable.
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even going for a wash an style, when you compare a caucasian salon and and a black salon....... its more expensive for blacks.....

i also find it unfair when a natural goes to an afro salon they tell her " as your natural, its harder to deal with there is an extra charge" !
that at a salon shouting out their professionalism on doing natural hair :-/
theives
 
Coolsista Paris. Co-signing ridiculous though I know this in Europe!!!!

Learn to do it yourself. You can't go wrong as long as you neutralise at least three times leaving one of those lathers on for at least 10 minutes.

Or have someone do it for you but make sure they base your scalp, ears, neck, side burns well and don't go beyond 30 minutes. Remember you are natural so you may need to smooth it well to get the best results especially in the front of your head. And be ware that you may have a resistant head of hair so your relaxed results will never be bone straight which it seems is okay with you. The only thing is that for touch ups you have to be sure not to go over the same parts of your hair again or risk over processing.

My hair is somewhat resistant. It only got bone straight when my hair dresser smoothed for way too long in the sink one time. I got over processed. Those parts I have been snipping off since last year but now I am fine. That's when I started to do my own relaxers. I used to have a hard time but then I realised that it doesn't have to be perfect and that as long as certain areas were the texture I wanted it didn't matter if the others remained under relaxed.

I do my own hair and sometimes, ask friends/acquaintances to help me touch up the roots. I tend to like to ensure that the front and middle parts are smoothed and the inside of my hair more texlaxed.

Also another piece of advice I wish someone had told me. There is no reason that after you relax to have to comb and style it that very day. Fine hair cannot be manipulated too much when wet so be ware. When I said enough was enough with hair salons was after my hair was over processed and my hairdresser after relaxing used a wide tooth comb on my hair while it was soaking wet and a big chunk came out because my hair was too fine and fragile after it had been relaxed.

Good luck.

Almond Eyes
 
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" as your natural, its harder to deal with there is an extra charge" !
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coolsista-paris - what these salons are erroneously implying is - african american women's choice to go natural resulted in our growing a different type of hair. Haven't we been going to salons in past years - getting perms for the first time on "natural hair", getting press & Curl styles on "natural hair"? Now since there is a growing market for natural hair styles and care, the same hair that had a relaxer applied 10 years ago is now "harder to deal with" so the price is doubled? :nono:

The practices/prices of these salons are beyond greed. Whether an individual can afford to pay these absurd prices r not is not the issue - it is their blatant attempt to capitalize off black women who have to retain the state of their God given natural hair". I would wear twist outs, braid outs, whatever for the rest of my life before I succumb to paying that much money. Catering these greedy "salons" will only perpetuate more greed.


I would love to go to one of these salons and pay for a relaxer (not shampooing) and see what would happen. As I walk out the door of the salon with "relaxer" on my head, the TV news camera crew (which I will have alerted in advance) can get a shot of the service provided at that salon. I'm sure that type of PR would (not) be very good for that salon.
 
ilong said:
coolsista-paris - what these salons are erroneously implying is - african american women's choice to go natural resulted in our growing a different type of hair. Haven't we been going to salons in past years - getting perms for the first time on "natural hair", getting press & Curl styles on "natural hair"? Now since there is a growing market for natural hair styles and care, the same hair that had a relaxer applied 10 years ago is now "harder to deal with" so the price is doubled? :nono: The practices/prices of these salons are beyond greed. Whether an individual can afford to pay these absurd prices r not is not the issue - it is their blatant attempt to capitalize off black women who have to retain the state of their God given natural hair". I would wear twist outs, braid outs, whatever for the rest of my life before I succumb to paying that much money. Catering these greedy "salons" will only perpetuate more greed. I would love to go to one of these salons and pay for a relaxer (not shampooing) and see what would happen. As I walk out the door of the salon with "relaxer" on my head, the TV news camera crew (which I will have alerted in advance) can get a shot of the service provided at that salon. I'm sure that type of PR would (not) be very good for that salon.
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just imagine someone does that... goes out with relaxer on head. no shampoo.
trouble for the salon......
 
almond eyes said:
Coolsista Paris. Co-signing ridiculous though I know this in Europe!!!! Learn to do it yourself. You can't go wrong as long as you neutralise at least three times leaving one of those lathers on for at least 10 minutes. Or have someone do it for you but make sure they base your scalp, ears, neck, side burns well and don't go beyond 30 minutes. Remember you are natural so you may need to smooth it well to get the best results especially in the front of your head. And be ware that you may have a resistant head of hair so your relaxed results will never be bone straight which it seems is okay with you. The only thing is that for touch ups you have to be sure not to go over the same parts of your hair again or risk over processing. My hair is somewhat resistant. It only got bone straight when my hair dresser smoothed for way too long in the sink one time. I got over processed. Those parts I have been snipping off since last year but now I am fine. That's when I started to do my own relaxers. I used to have a hard time but then I realised that it doesn't have to be perfect and that as long as certain areas were the texture I wanted it didn't matter if the others remained under relaxed. I do my own hair and sometimes, ask friends/acquaintances to help me touch up the roots. I tend to like to ensure that the front and middle parts are smoothed and the inside of my hair more texlaxed. Also another piece of advice I wish someone had told me. There is no reason that after you relax to have to comb and style it that very day. Fine hair cannot be manipulated too much when wet so be ware. When I said enough was enough with hair salons was after my hair was over processed and my hairdresser after relaxing used a wide tooth comb on my hair while it was soaking wet and a big chunk came out because my hair was too fine and fragile after it had been relaxed. Good luck. Almond Eyes
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i just contacted my old stylist. price for everything: 81$ thats ok for me. its not at a salon but at her appartment. its cool too.
next friday im back to relaxed hair. im gonna cut a good amount though.

my stylist said " why dont you do a bresilian keratin treatment instead of relaxing"

ive heard some horror stories with that keratin stuff... what do you all think?
 
coolsista-paris said:
i just contacted my old stylist. price for everything: 81$ thats ok for me. its not at a salon but at her appartment. its cool too. next friday im back to relaxed hair. im gonna cut a good amount though. my stylist said " why dont you do a bresilian keratin treatment instead of relaxing" ive heard some horror stories with that keratin stuff... what do you all think?
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Glad it worked out. As for the BKT, I say: go hard or go home.
 
NGraceO said:
. Lol. What I meant by saying go hard or go home would be: go all the way and relax, or just don't do anything. The BKT has always seemed mysterious and uncertain to me.
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llol oh all right lol!! so i will continue and do what i was planning to do. relax! thats in just 6 days!!!
from 6 years natural to relaxer . countdown!!!!!!!!!
 
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