BKT users with long hair...please help the rest of us out!
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Dove56
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MileHighDiva
In the DE FAQs it says to use roughly 2 ounces per treatment and that each bottle should yield 4 treatments near the end of the document:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CC0QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.designessentials.com%2F~%2Fmedia%2FPDFs%2FCollateral%2F2012%2520Black%2520Book.ashx&ei=VxS5UbOkNZO30QHJmoHQCQ&usg=AFQjCNGfixamUWS9cQkaIaMb8zCZBK2JTQ&sig2=5bC_dBZPpMdchewrg9xg1Q
Channy31
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It wasn't THAT much, but you're not mant to go over 2oz.
I'm tempted to buy a bottle too
Dove56
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lana yodie
Don't do business with the company I ordered from: http://www.lhboutique.com/Design-Ess...oz-p/36001.htm
I STILL don't have my package, I am pissed and they have HORRIBLE customer service. I will get it from Ebay or Payne beauty supply.
Don't do business with the company I ordered from: http://www.lhboutique.com/Design-Ess...oz-p/36001.htm
I STILL don't have my package, I am pissed and they have HORRIBLE customer service. I will get it from Ebay or Payne beauty supply.
Napp
Ms. Nobody
Wow it seems they fell off. I had a good experience with them before they changed their website
caliscurls
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Thanks for the update I was going to order DE from them after I finished this QOD Shot bottle
Dove56
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I'm glad you had a good experience I sure wish I had. I've been waiting and waiting still no product.
When I tracked the package today it says it's still in Maryland! I'm like WTH? I was supposed to receive it last Friday. They said I should have it tomorrow but we shall see...
Dove56
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^^^^Okay, so the crazies FINALLY sent me my crap ( a whole week late) so I'm no longer pissed lol.
Here are the ingredients to the Design Essential Strengthening Therapy Transitioning Mousse and the Strengthening Therapy Silkening Spray:
Mousse:
Deionized water, polyquaternium-55, cocomidapropyl tremethyl ammonium, chloride and peg-8 dimethicone succinate, decyl glucoside, cetrimonium chloride, diazolidinyl urea, methylparaben, propylparaben, peg-75 lanolin, hydrolyzed wheat protein, panthenol, polysorbate 20, perfume/fragrance, dimethicone copolyol, citric acid.
Spray:
Water, cystin Bis-pg-propyl silanetriaol, polyquaternium 11, hydrolyzed vegetable protein pg-proyl silanetriol, silanetriol and panthenol, hydrolyzed silk, hydrolyzed wheat protein and hydrolyzed wheat starch, dimethicone copolyol, cetyl treithylmonium olivate dimethicone peg-8 succinate, fragrance, methcholroisothiazolinone and methyllisthiazolinone.
I plan to do a test spot within a few days.
Here are the ingredients to the Design Essential Strengthening Therapy Transitioning Mousse and the Strengthening Therapy Silkening Spray:
Mousse:
Deionized water, polyquaternium-55, cocomidapropyl tremethyl ammonium, chloride and peg-8 dimethicone succinate, decyl glucoside, cetrimonium chloride, diazolidinyl urea, methylparaben, propylparaben, peg-75 lanolin, hydrolyzed wheat protein, panthenol, polysorbate 20, perfume/fragrance, dimethicone copolyol, citric acid.
Spray:
Water, cystin Bis-pg-propyl silanetriaol, polyquaternium 11, hydrolyzed vegetable protein pg-proyl silanetriol, silanetriol and panthenol, hydrolyzed silk, hydrolyzed wheat protein and hydrolyzed wheat starch, dimethicone copolyol, cetyl treithylmonium olivate dimethicone peg-8 succinate, fragrance, methcholroisothiazolinone and methyllisthiazolinone.
I plan to do a test spot within a few days.
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Dove56
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Dove56
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yodie it is awesome! It didn't even swell during the flatiron process. I went ahead and did the treatment tonight because I'm going to Houston tomorrow and that will be a great place to test the treatment!
I shampooed with DE Sulfate Free Shampoo then started applying the product.
I applied it, put on a plastic cap for 15 minutes then blowdried my hair and did only two passes at 340 degrees. On the right side (I always split it down the middle and do one side at a time) of my hair I did a few sections at 410 and 375 but 90% was at 340. I didn't want to exceed 2 passes because I am afraid of heat damage.
I did use roughly 2 - 2.5 ounces of the product and I made sure I didn't over saturate my hair because I know blowfrying can be hell when you do that lol.
The blowfry process was very easy and so was flatironing. There are no fumes, coughing, headaches, all the drama of Brazilian keratin treatments I did back in the day.
After I flatironed I shampooed again with DE Sulfate Free Shampoo then used my L'Oreal Total repair 5 restoring conditioner. I let sit in my hair about 10 minutes then rinsed. Next I applied Macadamia healing Oil spray (it says to apply to towel dried hair) then my Tresemme Heat Tamer Spray. The blowdry process was great and my hair was very shiny and healthy looking.
After that I used my Babyliss Titanium flatiron on 340 degrees around my edges and on the top section of my hair then I used 375 everywhere else. I only did one pass per section and that was all I needed for super sleek silky hair.
I will post pictures tomorrow of it outside so you all can see what it looks like in daylight. It's extremely shiny, full of body and it didn't swell at all during the flatiron process.
I didn't have any heat damage or straight pieces (other than my ends from transitioning). If my curl pattern was loosened at all it is very minimal because I can't tell.
I also purchased the DE Silkening Spray to use in-between treatments.
I think I will do this treatment in the Summer only (First day of Summer today is perfect) when humidity is an issue then just let it wear off because I won't need it in the cooler months.
I plan to do a rollerset next week like I used to do with QOD Max Organiq. If it doesn't work that's fine though because I can flatiron twice a month and roll with this.
I think it's excellent so far. It is easier to apply than QOD Max Organiq and it's marketed to Black women which is even better. Attachments
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MileHighDiva
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Dove56
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MileHighDiva
My hair is mostly natural now. Back in the day when I used to flatiron my natural hair it would poof before I could finish! So annoying, plus I sweat so bad under those flatirons lol.
Dove56
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I attached a photo of my hair after I used a flatiron. I washed it yesterday, mainly to see if my curl pattern was still intact then did a rollerset so I attached a photo of my hair after the rollerset as well.
I am pleased with the product. My hair is still curly but it didn't frizz when I was in Houston over the weekend so this is def a keeper for the Summer.
I honestly don't feel like these photos do a good job of truly depicting how shiny, smooth and silky my hair is. This is due to bunning for the last 8.5 months, no chemicals and minimal heat styling as well as this treatment preventing my hair from exploding.
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MileHighDiva
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Dove56
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Thank you.
I am still growing it out after a HUGE setback / breakage last year from bleach color. I'm glad it looks semi-decent again lol.
Jaffa
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Hi Ladies
A bit late but just wanted to add my comments
I get most of my hair inspiration and ideas from this board – it has helped me a great deal and hopefully my experience can help those of you with BKT concerns.
I have had a BKT about 5/6 times now – never had a problem. I have thick below shoulder length 4a/b hair and the BKT makes it easier to handle
The first couple of times it was applied by a professional and the last times I did it at home.
I did loads of research and took about a year thinking about it before I finally took the plunge. I have not had any regrets and can honestly say it has been good for my hair. I only do the treatment twice a year and my hair has always reverted back over time. I think that part of the problem some have had is too much heat and overuse of the process. Some were BKT’ing every few weeks. Like anything it does need an element of knowing your own hair and what it can and cant handle. When the BKT was applied I only ever passed the flat iron over each section a max of 3 times. When the treatment was washed out I would follow up with DC’ing and still treating my hair gently. A good friend had hers done a year before me in a salon and the results were beautiful but she ended up with breakage due to excessive use of her irons (she admitted she got carried away with the straight look)
Not to be taken lightly is the Formaldehyde element – even if the BKT claims to be Formaldehyde free please do your own research. Although I highly rate the BKT experience I have had so far I cant ignore the potential hazards Formaldehyde may pose for some. For me, I make sure I am in an open space (outside in the back yard) before I blow dry during the process.
Hope this comment helps someone
A bit late but just wanted to add my comments
I get most of my hair inspiration and ideas from this board – it has helped me a great deal and hopefully my experience can help those of you with BKT concerns.
I have had a BKT about 5/6 times now – never had a problem. I have thick below shoulder length 4a/b hair and the BKT makes it easier to handle
The first couple of times it was applied by a professional and the last times I did it at home.
I did loads of research and took about a year thinking about it before I finally took the plunge. I have not had any regrets and can honestly say it has been good for my hair. I only do the treatment twice a year and my hair has always reverted back over time. I think that part of the problem some have had is too much heat and overuse of the process. Some were BKT’ing every few weeks. Like anything it does need an element of knowing your own hair and what it can and cant handle. When the BKT was applied I only ever passed the flat iron over each section a max of 3 times. When the treatment was washed out I would follow up with DC’ing and still treating my hair gently. A good friend had hers done a year before me in a salon and the results were beautiful but she ended up with breakage due to excessive use of her irons (she admitted she got carried away with the straight look)
Not to be taken lightly is the Formaldehyde element – even if the BKT claims to be Formaldehyde free please do your own research. Although I highly rate the BKT experience I have had so far I cant ignore the potential hazards Formaldehyde may pose for some. For me, I make sure I am in an open space (outside in the back yard) before I blow dry during the process.
Hope this comment helps someone
caliscurls
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Dove56
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yodie
Absolutely!
Thanks so much for reviewing this product it is excellent! 
I am amazed that it has not altered my natural hair at all. My sister loved my hair so much she asked me to do a treatment on her hair so I'll be doing her hair in a couple of weeks. You know, I'm not sure how to use the silkening spray lol. I thought it was more of a heat protectant. I think it would be great for someone relaxed though.
caliscurls
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caliscurls
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I ended up doing it on 380 Fahrenheit with one pass, hopefully that was enough. Instead washing it out, I'm going to just wear it like this until Sunday...or longer. Washing now is just too much manipulation.
