Bible Memorization -let’s Memorize Scripture Together

nikkiheaven said:
So in your example, how would you explain it to the 15 year old?
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I would find out what the teen was feeling (sadness? despair? betrayal? trust? worry? like the bible could not be trusted? etc.), and I would proceed from there.

Depending on the teen's feelings and needs, I imagine I would discuss some or all of the following:
  • Just how utterly okay we always are in every circumstance--even when we are hungry or drawing our last breath or unemployed--because that's what Christ's sacrifice accomplished: our utter victory. No matter what happens to us, we're okay. That's huge! We don't have to fear physical death: We've been sealed with the Holy Spirit, we are citizens of heaven, we have received justification, we have nothing to fear about the afterlife, we are saved. The person who need not fear death or what happens after . . . and the person who allows God to be his or her all in all and his or her everything . . . that person is okay in every circumstance, even when it hurts or is sad. God would not design us to experience the death of a loved one and have no way to be able to bear it. That would be cruel. He has given us the mechanisms of mourning and healing and comfort and time and so on to help us when a loved one goes before we do.
  • Mark 11:24 must have some kind of conditions, otherwise God is imprisoned to our prayers. That can't be, so we must rightly divide the Word, as Timothy 2: 15 says. Isolating one scripture passage is one way to read scripture, but most teachers tell us to take scripture as a whole and interpret scripture in light of other scriptures. If we do that, then we will conclude that prayers sometimes cause God to honor the request, but God will ultimately do what He knows from His unique vantage point is best. Scripture tells us that God is love, and there is no shadow of turning with Him. If it is best not to honor a request and so He does not, He will be with us.
One of the things I need to really absorb is that I'm saved, so
  • I am supposed to have the appropriate level of attachment to outcomes, this earth, etc.
  • One of the toughest things about life is death, and God has taken the TRUE sting of it away. How incredible. How loving. But if I don't stay cognizant of that and have the mind of Christ about that, I may not benefit psychologically in the here and now from that amazing feat!
  • Blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted. Joy cometh in the morning. God knows how to take care of our hearts. I need to make sure I abide in Him.
  • God loves me and works everything to my good.
  • I'm always going to be alive: Jesus secured my eternal life.
If I stay aware of such things, I will pray and trust God with the outcome. :smile:

Mainly: Prayer affects God and us but is not a chokehold on God. Ultimately, whatever is going on, the saved are okay--are good. :smile: It's the reason we can obey the command to "rejoice evermore."
 
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YvetteWithJoy said:
I would find out what the teen was feeling (sadness? despair? betrayal? trust? worry? like the bible could not be trusted? etc.), and I would proceed from there.

Depending on the teen's feelings and needs, I imagine I would discuss some or all of the following:
  • Just how utterly okay we always are in every circumstance--even when we are hungry or drawing our last breath or unemployed--because that's what Christ's sacrifice accomplished: our utter victory. No matter what happens to us, we're okay. That's huge! We don't have to fear physical death: We've been sealed with the Holy Spirit, we are citizens of heaven, we have received justification, we have nothing to fear about the afterlife, we are saved. The person who need not fear death or what happens after . . . and the person who allows God to be his or her all in all and his or her everything . . . that person is okay in every circumstance, even when it hurts or is sad. God would not design us to experience the death of a loved one and have no way to be able to bear it. That would be cruel. He has given us the mechanisms of mourning and healing and comfort and time and so on to help us when a loved one goes before we do.
  • Mark 11:24 must have some kind of conditions, otherwise God is imprisoned to our prayers. That can't be, so we must rightly divide the Word, as Timothy 2: 15 says. Isolating one scripture passage is one way to read scripture, but most teachers tell us to take scripture as a whole and interpret scripture in light of other scriptures. If we do that, then we will conclude that prayers sometimes cause God to honor the request, but God will ultimately do what He knows from His unique vantage point is best. Scripture tells us that God is love, and there is no shadow of turning with Him. If it is best not to honor a request and so He does not, He will be with us.
One of the things I need to really absorb is that I'm saved, so
  • I am supposed to have the appropriate level of attachment to outcomes, this earth, etc.
  • One of the toughest things about life is death, and God has taken the TRUE sting of it away. How incredible. How loving. But if I don't stay cognizant of that and have the mind of Christ about that, I may not benefit psychologically in the here and now from that amazing feat!
  • Blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted. Joy cometh in the morning. God knows how to take care of our hearts. I need to make sure I abide in Him.
  • God loves me and works everything to my good.
  • I'm always going to be alive: Jesus secured my eternal life.
If I stay aware of such things, I will pray and trust God with the outcome. :smile:

Mainly: Prayer affects God and us but is not a chokehold on God. Ultimately, whatever is going on, the saved are okay--are good. :smile: It's the reason we can obey the command to "rejoice evermore."
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Yes to all of this! Girl you are helping me put some things in perspective!
 
nikkiheaven said:
Yes to all of this! Girl you are helping me put some things in perspective!
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So glad.

Your thread is really helping me because memorizing scripture keeps me thinking deeply about the scripture.

I hope it's okay for us to dig deeper in this thread! I think if we are brave and patient and "un-annoyed" enough to really engage with scripture--even if it requires a longer post or a temporary "discomfort"--our faith has the potential to be rock solid.

Once I started being honest about my questions about christianity and faith and prayer and scripture . . . in other words, once I started allowing myself to truly and freely and completely seek, I began finding! It's made all the difference in the world to seek then find.

I still have much growth to do, but at least I'm on my way!
 
Question for thread participants:

Do you remember the phrase "name it and claim it?"

What are your thoughts about it? Do you think it's a good summary of Mark 11:24? Do you think "name it and claim it" is a good phrase to use--a good thing to teach?

Where did the phrase come from?

(Note: I have no opinion on it as I've never attended a church that taught that.)
 
OK guys let's check in!!! I'm loving the turn this thread has taken. The deep dive into the scripture has helped in me memorizing the scriputre. Who's still with us?
 
Also, I know I'm wordy and think a lot. I can place my posts in spoiler tags or even just lurk. I don't want to do anything that is a turn off or makes the thread cumbersome.
 
I'm here with scripture and verse memorized!

I really need to stick to one translation. My regular bible is ESV, but most of my experience has been with the KJV or the NKJV. For some reason my memory is better with the NKJV.
 
YvetteWithJoy said:
Question for thread participants:

Do you remember the phrase "name it and claim it?"

What are your thoughts about it? Do you think it's a good summary of Mark 11:24? Do you think "name it and claim it" is a good phrase to use--a good thing to teach?

Where did the phrase come from?

(Note: I have no opinion on it as I've never attended a church that taught that.)
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I have mixed feelings about this phrase. On one hand when other use it in a Christian context I know what they mean and don’t pay the phrasing any mind.

On the other hand I don’t like to use that phrase because it’s so close to the Not religious but spiritual/ secrets/ buy my book on how to win at life with less effort type of jargon. It also places the spotlight on the “namer” not the Giver. I might consider using that phrase during a one on one talk with someone who is very foreign to the whole “Christian thing” if they just really weren’t getting it and weren’t ready to go deep just yet. But it would be thrown out in a much larger conversation were that is just the first layer I’m using to try to get them to the final conclusion.

Though I do feel like if you’ve prayed go ahead and continue speaking it into existence. We can be proud of the gifts that God has given us.
 
Okay!

Here's me checking in, typing the below from memory. I'll see how I do!

Mark 11:24 NKJV

Therefore I say unto you,

Whatever things you ask when you pray

Believe that you receive them

And you will have them.
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How did I do?
 
YvetteWithJoy said:
Okay!

Here's me checking in, typing the below from memory. I'll see how I do!

Mark 11:24 NKJV

Therefore I say unto you,

Whatever things you ask when you pray

Believe that you receive them

And you will have them.
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How did I do?
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That’s a good way to measure if you have it memorize — type it out! Let’s do it ladies!
 
For next week, I will memorize

Proverbs 31:31 (NKJV)

Give her of the fruit of her hands,
And let her own works praise her in the gates.

There is another scripture I will add to this once I relocate it. :smile:
 
I finally re-found the other scripture.

Colossians 3:12 (I may add 13, and I'm not sure which version I'll memorize):
NCV verses 12-17 says:

12 God has chosen you and made you his holy people. He loves you. So you should always clothe yourselves with mercy, kindness, humility, gentleness, and patience.
13 Bear with each other, and forgive each other. If someone does wrong to you, forgive that person because the Lord forgave you.
14 Even more than all this, clothe yourself in love. Love is what holds you all together in perfect unity.
15 Let the peace that Christ gives control your thinking, because you were all called together in one body to have peace. Always be thankful.
16 Let the teaching of Christ live in you richly. Use all wisdom to teach and instruct each other by singing psalms, hymns, and spiritual songs with thankfulness in your hearts to God.
17 Everything you do or say should be done to obey Jesus your Lord. And in all you do, give thanks to God the Father through Jesus.

Back story:
I heard it in an online sermon and had to go back and watch so I could find it.

The preacher discusses it in the video below (available for viewing for a short time) between time stamps 12:35 - 13:35. He shared it as the definition of who we are at the core. Then he explained why our identity should empower us to let grace be bigger than anything anyone has done to us. (He discusses how forgiveness is not equivalent to forgetting, reconciliation, etc. -- but the whole sermon is amazing about what it's like when grace is deeper than our wounds. Woo!)

He says, "When grace goes deep, we find our identity in what God has done for us, not what someone has done to us."

A lady at the end shares how she has to forgive her doctor again and again when any anger arises. Her story. Wow.

The scripture and discussion are presented between time stamps 12:35 - 13:35:
 
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Ok guys so how did the first week go!! I’m pumped. Let’s keep it going. @YvetteWithJoy, please post the verse you want to memorize this week. I wasn’t clear on what you recommended. Let’s go!
 
nikkiheaven said:
Ok guys so how did the first week go!! I’m pumped. Let’s keep it going. @YvetteWithJoy, please post the verse you want to memorize this week. I wasn’t clear on what you recommended. Let’s go!
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Oh, Nikki, please continue to come up with the group verses. I was just reading through the original thread, and people were discussing choosing their own verses from week to week. This week I need to memorize two scriptures that I feel God placed into my consciousness to help me heal and overcome in a tough area for me.

I think you should keep choosing the group verse for everyone. I can't really be an official participant in this challenge, because I've got a lot going on.

I'm going to memorize the verses below. I may do the first one this week and the second one next week.

Proverbs 31:31 (NKJV)
Give her of the fruit of her hands,
And let her own works praise her in the gates.

and

Colossians 3:12-14 (NCV)
12 God has chosen you and made you his holy people. He loves you. So you should always clothe yourselves with mercy, kindness, humility, gentleness, and patience.
13 Bear with each other, and forgive each other. If someone does wrong to you, forgive that person because the Lord forgave you.
14 Even more than all this, clothe yourself in love. Love is what holds you all together in perfect unity.
 
YvetteWithJoy said:
Question for thread participants:

Do you remember the phrase "name it and claim it?"

What are your thoughts about it? Do you think it's a good summary of Mark 11:24? Do you think "name it and claim it" is a good phrase to use--a good thing to teach?

Where did the phrase come from?

(Note: I have no opinion on it as I've never attended a church that taught that.)
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Having lived through the name it and claim it phase- I can only think of maybe 1 or 2 movements that have been more detrimental to the modern day church. The most damaging imo was the "touch not the anointed" movement.

There were so many that fell for that farce and were disappointed and walked away from God because what they named and claimed never came to fruition. When we pray we are to pray seeking that God's will be done because He knows the end from the beginning - not us.
 
YvetteWithJoy said:
Oh, Nikki, please continue to come up with the group verses. I was just reading through the original thread, and people were discussing choosing their own verses from week to week. This week I need to memorize two scriptures that I feel God placed into my consciousness to help me heal and overcome in a tough area for me.

I think you should keep choosing the group verse for everyone. I can't really be an official participant in this challenge, because I've got a lot going on.

I'm going to memorize the verses below. I may do the first one this week and the second one next week.

Proverbs 31:31 (NKJV)
Give her of the fruit of her hands,
And let her own works praise her in the gates.

and

Colossians 3:12-14 (NCV)
12 God has chosen you and made you his holy people. He loves you. So you should always clothe yourselves with mercy, kindness, humility, gentleness, and patience.
13 Bear with each other, and forgive each other. If someone does wrong to you, forgive that person because the Lord forgave you.
14 Even more than all this, clothe yourself in love. Love is what holds you all together in perfect unity.
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Thank you for this week's MV! I am adding this commentary from Matthew Poole for Proverbs 31:31:

Proverbs 31:31
Give her of the fruit of her hands; and let her own works praise her in the gates.
Give her of the fruit of her hands; it is but just and fit that she should enjoy those benefits and praises which her excellent labours deserve.

Let her own works praise her; give her the praises which her own works may challenge. If men be silent, the lasting effects of her prudence and diligence will loudly trumpet forth her praises.

In the gates; in the most public and solemn assemblies
 
momi said:
Thank you for this week's MV! I am adding this commentary from Matthew Poole for Proverbs 31:31:

Proverbs 31:31
Give her of the fruit of her hands; and let her own works praise her in the gates.
Give her of the fruit of her hands; it is but just and fit that she should enjoy those benefits and praises which her excellent labours deserve.

Let her own works praise her; give her the praises which her own works may challenge. If men be silent, the lasting effects of her prudence and diligence will loudly trumpet forth her praises.

In the gates; in the most public and solemn assemblies
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Excellent! TFS!

Here is the blog post where I recently encountered Proverbs 31:31. I took the scripture differently from the way the blog post author took it. Lol.

Regardless, that scripture is helping me tremendously.

https://becominghistapestry.com/2018/03/13/who-are-you-becoming/
 
momi said:
Having lived through the name it and claim it phase- I can only think of maybe 1 or 2 movements that have been more detrimental to the modern day church. The most damaging imo was the "touch not the anointed" movement.

There were so many that fell for that farce and were disappointed and walked away from God because what they named and claimed never came to fruition. When we pray we are to pray seeking that God's will be done because He knows the end from the beginning - not us.
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Interesting!!!

I can really imagine that!

Someone very close to me heard a mega church preacher preaching haaaaaaard about how if you name it and claim it, it's yours. This friend told me that he sees christians name it, claim it, and then not get it, and that's why he can't get with christianity. I was floored! I'd never heard the phrase. But that's why I know 2 Timothy 2:15 is critical! We must rightly divide the Word. Souls are at stake!
 
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