Ateeya's Hair Just Keeps Getting Shorter.

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Why is everyone complimenting Ateeya for using bad hair practices to get a certain look? Did anyone catch that she used a flat iron at 460 degrees on hair with no product on it to get it to swang like that? It would be interesting to see how much swang and shine that hair has a few days later after it's been fried like that. Oh, but we'd never get the chance, because it would be back under a wig or weave that is twice as long as the length she likes to "keep" her hair. If she purposely cuts it that short, than why is it so raggedy and uneven in the back? In all honesty, I would rather have truly healthy, and long hair than hair that only "looks" healthy but is heat damaged enough to consistently break off at shoulder length. :ohwell:
 
I'm really taken aback that people are praising her hair just because it was swang. What does it take to accomplish such "swang?" For some people, Ateeya included, it seems to entail high heat and you can't change the fundamentals of science: heat that high can wreak havoc on most women's hair whether they're 1A or 4ZZZ.

This is not to take away from how beautiful her hair is or how great of a personality she has; she's very engaging, pretty, and her hair does indeed look great. But I think swang comes at a price. :lol: Theresamonet because she's right. Swang isn't a unicorn. Anyone can attain it, but it might leave you sent adrift a memory bliss of your hair. :lol:
 
I think she likely tried the "hair journey" thing, became overwhelmed/discouraged, and resigned that long hair "isn't for her." Folks ask me all the time about my hair regimen, but most don't really want to hear it--especially once relinquishing relaxers is mentioned. It seems to me that, similar to many, many women, she's unwilling to forgo her current habits in favor of healthier ones and accepts the less-than-favorable consequences. As long as I've been here, only within the last year and a half has my hair consistently improved; until then there were extended periods of time during which I just couldn't be bothered to make the necessary effort.

*shrugs* As with weight loss or any other major life change, people have to be ready within themselves.
 
koolkittychick said:
Why is everyone complimenting Ateeya for using bad hair practices to get a certain look? Did anyone catch that she used a flat iron at 460 degrees on hair with no product on it to get it to swang like that? It would be interesting to see how much swang and shine that hair has a few days later after it's been fried like that. Oh, but we'd never get the chance, because it would be back under a wig or weave that is twice as long as the length she likes to "keep" her hair. If she purposely cuts it that short, than why is it so raggedy and uneven in the back? In all honesty, I would rather have truly healthy, and long hair than hair that only "looks" healthy but is heat damaged enough to consistently break off at shoulder length. :ohwell:
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Because it is Ateeya's hair, not mine:lol:. She can do whatever she pleases to her own head. As for me and my hair, I'm straight:look:. If she stays at this length for years to come, or dare I say, goes shorter, it has no bearing on my hair. If she is the poster girl for 'to do' hair practices, those people will follow. If she is the poster girl for "what not to do" people will take hair advice from elsewhere.
 
koolkittychick said:
Why is everyone complimenting Ateeya for using bad hair practices to get a certain look? Did anyone catch that she used a flat iron at 460 degrees on hair with no product on it to get it to swang like that? It would be interesting to see how much swang and shine that hair has a few days later after it's been fried like that. Oh, but we'd never get the chance, because it would be back under a wig or weave that is twice as long as the length she likes to "keep" her hair. If she purposely cuts it that short, than why is it so raggedy and uneven in the back? In all honesty, I would rather have truly healthy, and long hair than hair that only "looks" healthy but is heat damaged enough to consistently break off at shoulder length. :ohwell:
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koolkittychick Yep. :yep: A lot of women go to the salon; get their hair fried, dyed, and laid to the side; they come out looking easy, breezy, beautiful...but then before the end of the week their hair is a dry, brittle mess because of all that went into achieving those styles.

I think Ateeya is trapped in that cycle. She still hasn't figured out how to have good hair practices and still achieve the look she wants. I also believe she is stuck in the mindset that cutting your hair makes it grow.

Ateeya's hair did not look healthy wet to me. And her ends looked raggedy in the pics at the end. The fact that her hair is not weighed down by product (that she probably needs) means nothing.
 
sweetome1 said:
It's interesting that she doesn't want long hair but wears weaves and wigs that are long...:rolleyes:
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NGL, if I were comfortable in weaves and wigs I would chop my hair off and wear long weaves/wigs. I would wear my (real) short hair out when I want to switch it up. The longer my hair gets, the more annoyed I am with maintaining it. :lol: It would be nice to not have to be so careful with "my" hair when I want to style it.


But I'm not the woman or her scalp so I can't say what her exact reasons are, if folks really want answers they should leave a question on her page.
 
classoohfive said:
NGL, if I were comfortable in weaves and wigs I would chop my hair off and wear long weaves/wigs. I would wear my (real) short hair out when I want to switch it up. The longer my hair gets, the more annoyed I am with maintaining it. :lol: It would be nice to not have to be so careful with "my" hair when I want to style it.


But I'm not the woman or her scalp so I can't say what her exact reasons are, if folks really want answers they should leave a question on her page.
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RegaLady said:
Because it is Ateeya's hair, not mine:lol:. She can do whatever she pleases to her own head. As for me and my hair, I'm straight:look:. If she stays at this length for years to come, or dare I say, goes shorter, it has no bearing on my hair. If she is the poster girl for 'to do' hair practices, those people will follow. If she is the poster girl for "what not to do" people will take hair advice from elsewhere.
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This thread was not intended to be an intervention. :lol: Just a discussion... like we discuss many heads of hair that do not belong to us. It's really of little consequence. Trust that I don't have a deeply vested interest.
 
Theresamonet said:
This thread was not intended to be an intervention. :lol: Just a discussion... like we discuss many heads of hair that do not belong to us. It's really of little consequence. Trust that I don't have a deeply vested interest.
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Okay. No one said it was that deep, like you said: it's just a discussion. That's exactly what we're doing. :yep: It's just that there's always back and forth about what she may or may not have been doing/thinking in these discussions and I don't get why people don't just save time and ask her directly. :lol:


People asked why someone would cut their hair short and wear long wigs/weaves, I discussed an angle I've heard even people here on LHCF say they do. *shrug* It wasn't intended to make this thread more than it is.
 
I haven't watched an Ateeya video in ages, but I've always admired the shine, fullness and movement her hair has after a press.

Btw, I disagree with the notion that high heat/no product is the combination that automatically yields swangin hair. For one, she used product; a liquid leave in & a liquid heat protectant. Secondly, high heat can't singlehandedly transform dry, damaged, dull tresses into shiny, full hair with movement so she's gotta be doing something right despite possible issues with retaining length.

Her hair practices have never been for me, but if she likes it, I love it.
 
Her hair does look nice and healthy, but those those ends/edges... iunno, maybe if she rollerset and flat-ironed instead of the blow dry it would help...

I always loved her swang...

I couldve sworn she was on road to going natural....
 
I just can't believe that she's boasting "beautiful shine, no oils". You need them oils. I can only imagine how dry her hair must be.
 
The end result looks nice. But, in some of those close up shots of her hair it looks like she has split ends which would make sense because she uses a lot of heat. Also, back in the day when I used to have swanggin' hair my hair was dry as f**k and it would shed like crazy. So, hair can bling and swing but it might be dry as all he** which will eventually lead to breakage.
 
gorgeoushair said:
Maybe u should go back and look at the video she said it in. She said she keeps her at that length b/c she likes it and the swang and it looks thicker at that length. I've followed her since she started, too. Just b/c you wear wigs doesn't mean u want long hair. Wigs&weaves provide protection to the hair and gives u another/different look. Hell some people just like wigs and weaves just like some don't.
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This is my sister all day. And she has gorgeous curly hair. I wish my hair texture was hers, TBH :yep:
 
I do think the majority of her hair is healthy. Her ends are the problem. And she usually cuts them off before they infect the rest of her hair. :lol:

I never said she wasn't cutting her hair that length. I just don't believe she is doing it because she just loves neck length hair. She is doing it because she keeps finding damage. That is why she mentions when her stylist tells her she didn't need a trim that month... If she just wanted to be that length, it wouldn't matter if she needed a trim; she'd get one anyway to maintain that length.

Her hair just looks different to me now. Her ends used to be blunt and smooth. Now the length is jagged and her ends are frayed in the pics. I suspect its now breaking/ getting damaged faster than she wants to cut.

knt1229 said:
The end result looks nice. But, in some of those close up shots of her hair it looks like she has split ends which would make sense because she uses a lot of heat. Also, back in the day when I used to have swanggin' hair my hair was dry as f**k and it would shed like crazy. So, hair can bling and swing but it might be dry as all he** which will eventually lead to breakage.
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I saw them too.
 
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Theresamonet said:
This thread was not intended to be an intervention. :lol: Just a discussion... like we discuss many heads of hair that do not belong to us. It's really of little consequence. Trust that I don't have a deeply vested interest.
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Yea right...looking at your join date you've been on here long enough to know that Ateeya threads around here don't always end well and most get locked...

As far as your theory about swang go. I disagree b/c not everyone can get the Ateeya swing. In order to get her swang I think it depends on your hair type/texture. Now everyone's hair probably can have some type of body/swing to it but not the Ateeya swang. There is a difference.
 
gorgeoushair said:
She also don't use a lot of heat like she used too but I guess people can't see that.
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I cannot fathom that it is possible for her to have used MORE heat in the past than she used in this video. :lol: Sitting under the dryer, blow dry, flat iron AND curl???
 
^^Not at one time but more often...she doesn't do it as often. I wouldn't count sitting under hair dryer b/c it's not direct heat.

I never thought she needed to curl her hair after the flat iron.
 
So many different opinions and so much negativity.
Lets be real ateya hair is popping true i did see some ends that needed to be clipped. but who are we to say if the woman is lying or not about keeping it at a short length.
what works for one person doesnt work for everyone else.
I'm an advocate with the "swang theory" i blow dry flat iron and use no heat, but i bet my hair has minium to no breakage, keep these strands moisturized too. my hair can take it another persons cant.
i'm on a hhj longest my hair has been but honestly i liked my hair better at collar bone length.
but i tell you what i love me some long hair weaves but when i take the weave out i want my real hair to be the length i want it to be which is shorter.
so...whats wrong with a person doing what they want to do to their own hair again??
 
These threads are always so repetitive and mostly negative. :perplexed At some point we need to agree to disagree and keep it moving. On the flip side, the entertainment factor is high for me, especially with all the hypocrisy, it's a double edged sword and I can't stay away from all the gore. :lol:

To be serious, like I said, the hypocrisy is high in these dramatic threads. Are people forgetting that there are members here that do all kinds of extra steps to retain length? Some sacrifice so much just to get to the next milestone (some after a long period of time) and still their hair looks mediocre at best. Not to mention members that have been here for years, have not grown to at least BSL once, while having visible issues with their hair journey. The rest of the population either coddle these members or bad mouth them elsewhere. I'm not really throwing shade, I'm just trying to state facts. People seem to be acting like our ways and practices are the holy grail in comparison when there are inconsistencies if you pay attention. Yes, Ateya uses tons of heat. Yes, her hair is short. We all know this. :spinning: Although, if I had to go the extra 50 kilometers while doing the stunts some members pull for some retention, I think I'd chop it in a cute (or at least acceptable style) and turn up the heat too. :look: At the end of the day, Ateya's hair is her own and could look a lot worse.
 
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Although I will say, I agree, she has gotten excited for increased length in the past... loooong ago. As well as she has stated she prefers to keep her hair at a particular length. I think to be honest, it's a case of her not wanting to sacrifice the heat, it's the look/the swang > the length retention for her so she'll cut it at a length that will look its best with her preferred styling options. Her hair looked amazing when she stuck to one set of products though -- ApHogee; her use of Kenra was the runner up. If she seriously wanted to grow it out, all I'd suggest for her to maybe do is go back to using the ApHogee since her hair would need the protein. I'd also say she can do without the triple or quadruple heat -- blow-drying and flat-ironing is enough for her hair, she really doesn't need the added hooded dryer or curling-iron methods. If she needs a little help as to where to start, all she'll need to do is search Youtube or Google her name. :lol: At the end of the day, her lack of retention is no big deal, she's seems to be somewhat content with her wigs, weaves and heat styling. Her hair still looks great, better than most, faux healthy or not.

I don't agree everyone can have that same swang she does, I think it depends on many variables such as techniques, tools, products, etc. as well as your hair. Some people just happen to have very resistant hair (for whatever reason -- genetics, extreme damage, etc.) and may not be able to achieve the same results she is able to get. Technique with the way you handle your hair before, during, after affects movement, flow, bounce and shine. Modern flat-irons/blow-dryers versus their older counterparts typically do a better job at providing more concentrated heat with smoother results and less damage -- y'all remember those metal plated flat-irons, right? Even with modern flat-irons or hair tools in general there is a hierarchy to lead to the most optimal results. It's not just less product = more swang. Some people really have to figure out how to get that look, just like others have to figure out how to get the health.
 
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cami88 said:
I cannot fathom that it is possible for her to have used MORE heat in the past than she used in this video. :lol: Sitting under the dryer, blow dry, flat iron AND curl???
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She uses the hood dryer to decrease how much she has to blowdry her hair. It's a common practice to partially dry your hair under a hood dryer and then finish it with a blowdryer.

The blowdryer helps her get a smoother flat iron and I don't think she knows how to roller set.

A lot of people with long hair hair flat-iron don't have results that look even half as good as Ateeya's. For example, I don't think air-drying hair before flat-ironing produces good results. Too much product layering can also lead to breakage. You really don't need 3 layers of heat protectant before heat-styling. If your hair is healthy and strong, it can withstand heat-styling.

This whole thread makes me want to go and get a trim.
 
Also, Ateeya has figured out what style looks good on her as far as her real hair goes. A lot of people hold on to length for the sake of a "length journey" when they'd really look better with a short cut.

I also disagree that anyone can get that look by just using a lot of heat. If they could, they would.
 
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