Are Overeating and being lazy sins?

[Poohbear]

That's Legalized Christianity. That's not what God wants for us. He wants us to be free and to enjoy our lives according to His ways and His purpose

I do not agree, I don't believe adhereing to every word of God is legalized Christianity. I think that is an excuse that people use to allow them to do whatever they want to do. Not you I am just saying this is what I use to hear in service all the time. Its your heart. Our hearts are so corrupted and it lies. We have to fed it truths constantly. I agree God wants us to be free, but he gives us certain laws that protect us from many many troubles but we do not listen we think we know what is best for us and we fail every time but we make excuses oh a little here a little there. We are called to live an abundant life but it doesn't mean riches! in terms of money, power and prestige. I think thats where people get confused or lost. Its very, very easy to get lost. Many people that are in the church and baptised and gave their life to Christ are still Lost. But I need to come back on this one. Because Satan is going to confused the strong in the lord. Almost the very elite as well thats something to really think on. As soon as you start indulging a little here are there you can become completely and totally lost forever.

You said "I don't believe adhereing to every word of God is legalized Christianity." I don't either! So I agree with you! I did not say nor was I implying that in my post.... Legalized Christianity makes God's love something to earn rather than to accept freely. It reduces Christianity to a set of impossible rules and transforms the Good News into bad news.

And when you mentioned "that is an excuse that people use to allow them to do whatever they want to do"... God doesn't want us to do whatever we want to do either. That would be like Law-less Christianity which forgets that Christians are still human and fail consistently when trying to live only by what they "feel" God wants. So I agree with you when you said God "gives us certain laws that protect us from many many troubles."

To me, true Christianity is where Christians believe inwardly and outwardly that Jesus' death has allowed God to offer them forgiveness and eternal life as a free gift. Christians have accepted that gift by faith and are seeking to live a life of obedient gratitude for what God has done for them. Christianity is both private and public, believing in your heart and confessing with your mouth that Jesus is God's Son, and the Lord and Savior of your life. Our relationship to God and the power He provides result in obedience. Having received the gift of forgiveness and eternal life, we are now daily challenged to live that life with His help from the Holy Spirit.

 

[discobiscuits]

In the bible they are listed as gluttony and slothfullness, two of the seven deadly sins.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_deadly_sins

the bible does discuss those as being sinful qualities, however the bible does not have any seven deadly sins anywhere in it. the 7 deadly sins are a Catholic belief not a protestant belief and not in the bible.

 

[Poohbear]

the bible does discuss those as being sinful qualities, however the bible does not have any seven deadly sins anywhere in it. the 7 deadly sins are a Catholic belief not a protestant belief and not in the bible.

I agree. Check out this excerpt below:

Question: "What are the seven deadly sins?"

Answer: The seven deadly sins are a list originally used in early Christian teachings to educate and instruct followers concerning fallen man's tendency to sin. The misconception about the list of seven “deadly” sins is that they are sins that God will not forgive. The Bible is clear that the only sin God will not forgive is that of continued unbelief, because it rejects the only means to obtain forgiveness—Jesus Christ and His substitutionary death on the cross.

Is the idea of seven deadly sins biblical?
Yes and no.

Proverbs 6:16-19 declares, “There are six things the LORD hates, seven that are detestable to him: 1) haughty eyes, 2) a lying tongue, 3) hands that shed innocent blood, 4) a heart that devises wicked schemes, 5) feet that are quick to rush into evil, 6) a false witness who pours out lies, and 7) a man who stirs up dissension among brothers.” However, this list is not what most people understand as the seven deadly sins.

According to Pope Gregory the Great in the 6th century, the seven deadly sins are as follows: pride, envy, gluttony, lust, anger, greed, and sloth. Although these are undeniably sins, they are never given the description of "the seven deadly sins" in the Bible. The traditional list of seven deadly sins can function as a good way to categorize the many different sins that exist. Nearly every kind of sin could be placed under one of the seven categories. More importantly, we must realize these seven sins are no more “deadly” than any other sin. All sin results in death (Romans 6:23). Praise be to God, that through Jesus Christ, all of our sins, including the “seven deadly sins,” can be forgiven (Matthew 26:28; Acts 10:43; Ephesians 1:7).

I got this info from: http://www.gotquestions.org/seven-deadly-sins.html

 

[discobiscuits]

after re-reading, i think i misunderstood her post.

I don't think she was saying the 7 deadly sins are in the bible as such.

i think she was explaining what the two in the topic of this thread are called in the bible as two of the seven deadly list.

 

[Prudent1]

Can you expand on this Prudent1

?
Raspberry and Poohbear,

Sorry it took so long motherhood calls… :heart2:
plus OT on the job this week… $$


I have been around other races pretty much my entire life. I was the only little 'ink spot' in the majority of my classes and on jobs b/c of my field of employment. So, I never really considered myself a racist. I would be guilty from time to time of the occasional off color joke but that was pretty much it or so I thought. I began to notice almost all figurines/ depictions of God had him as a white European male (Hmm, wonder who pointed that out…. :heated. I noticed this for most pictures of historical biblical ppl. I noticed it in movies. ‘Good guys wear white.’ ‘Bad ppl wear black.’ Everything affiliated w/ black is evil, scary, nasty, or just plain bad. Now I knew that those things were leftover mentality remnants from American slavery. Many wrote books to instruct how to pit AA against each other but it still had affected me in a way I did not realize. erplexedI began to ask God to show me me. It got to a point where I had some resentment and bitterness built up in my heart. I wondered why white ppl who passed on all of the rigorous physical labor to slaves, who raped, split up families, etc could have prospered financially for generations and seemed to be happy and have it all. It seemed as if black ppl are hated no matter what continent we occupy. We always seemed to be at the bottom of the societal ladder. Anyway, one of the things God showed me as I began to pray and ask him to help me get the junk out of my heart (Prov 4:23 23 Above all else, guard your heart, for it is the wellspring of life.) was that they were able to prosper somewhat b/c they obeyed several of his spiritual laws. Laws like giving and sowing various types of seeds (yes- they gave to their churches and some other ppl in need). They also tithed. They had a different mindset where money was involved. They were not trying to validate themselves through what they owned or what they wore. They were not as ‘tight fisted’ as some other races. They chose to trust God to provide for their needs despite their present circumstances. So, to a certain degree they prospered.

God is not an ‘Indian’ giver. [Now let me say that I lived in Alaska for quite some time and had several Native American friends. I realize that is a racial slur- Indian- to many Native Americans. I am only using that word here because it is a well-recognized cliché. Not because I am trying to be insensitive. I apologize in advance.] He does not take away the gifts he gives nor does he ‘flip the script’ and stop spiritual laws and their effects/benefits. Just as he does not stop natural laws like momentum conservation from taking place. However, only his children will be able to maximize the benefits of these spiritual laws because he is also a righteous judge. If we put his laws into practice in our lives there is no stopping us. Unfortunately, many of us will not experience this level of blessings/abundant living, peace, joy, divine health and protection. Fortunately, our salvation is not dependent on it. We will always have some poor among us- not just financially poor either. Not everyone can handle the tremendous responsibilities that come with next level blessings. The difference is that there should not be so much lack around us b/c those that God can trust with ‘much’ should also be doing what he commands them to do with the excess he has given( Luke 12:48-48But the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment will be beaten with few blows. From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked.) [ Also reference the parable of the talents in Matt 25- 21"His master replied, 'Well done, good and faithful servant! You have been faithful with a few things; I will put you in charge of many things. Come and share your master's happiness!'].
Everything we do should be about kingdom business b/c in the end only what we do for God will count. What God said was for me not to focus on the color of his skin while he was here but to remember his blood was red. Remember his blood cleansed me. Remember that he made me AA on purpose and he loved me and is willing to instruct me on how to survive in this present time. Who is like him? Who can keep me from obtaining the things/favor he wants to give me? Is there anything too hard for God?Does it matter my age, my race, my geographic location to him? Can he not 'get' to me no matter who is in political authority? The cares of this life do not compare to him. He taught me he is not limited by this world in and he doesn't want us to be limited spiritually and mentally either (Rom 12:2 2Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will). I was like ok - I got it and I have never looked back…

 

[Prudent1]

I had to listen to, meditate on and sing this song by Kirk Franklin... over and over until I saw that race is just another way Satan keeps us busy doing nothing.
The Blood song
You have the power
To make the seasons change
The river flows for you
The wind whispers Your name
For me you left Your throne
And traded crown for thorns instead
I'm safe within not by Your skin
But because Your blood was red

Some say You're black, you're white
They question if you're real
We treat you like we treat ourselves
I wonder how you feel
To see your children fight inspite
of the tears for us you've shed
Doesn't matter what color you are
As long as your blood was red

[Chorus]
For it's strong enough
to wash away my sins
And it's pure enough
To cleanse me deep within
And it's real enough
To find me when I'm lost
Great enough
To die upon the cross
It doesn't matter what color you are
As long as your blood was red

We may be different but
The God we serve's the same
Yet every Sunday we separate
And bring the Father pain
Your name is higher than any other
Yet You took my place instead
And now my sins are washed away
Because Your blood was red

[Chorus]
For it's strong enough
To wash away my sins
And it's pure enough
To cleanse me deep within
And it's real enough
To find me when I'm lost

 

[Raspberry]

I have been around other races pretty much my entire life. I was the only little 'ink spot' in the majority of my classes and on jobs b/c of my field of employment. So, I never really considered myself a racist. I would be guilty from time to time of the occasional off color joke but that was pretty much it or so I thought. I began to notice almost all figurines/ depictions of God had him as a white European male (Hmm, wonder who pointed that out…. :heated. I noticed this for most pictures of historical biblical ppl. I noticed it in movies. ‘Good guys wear white.’ ‘Bad ppl wear black.’ Everything affiliated w/ black is evil, scary, nasty, or just plain bad. Now I knew that those things were leftover mentality remnants from American slavery. Many wrote books to instruct how to pit AA against each other but it still had affected me in a way I did not realize. erplexedI began to ask God to show me me. It got to a point where I had some resentment and bitterness built up in my heart. I wondered why white ppl who passed on all of the rigorous physical labor to slaves, who raped, split up families, etc could have prospered financially for generations and seemed to be happy and have it all. It seemed as if black ppl are hated no matter what continent we occupy. We always seemed to be at the bottom of the societal ladder. Anyway, one of the things God showed me as I began to pray and ask him to help me get the junk out of my heart (Prov 4:23 23 Above all else, guard your heart, for it is the wellspring of life.) was that they were able to prosper somewhat b/c they obeyed several of his spiritual laws. Laws like giving and sowing various types of seeds (yes- they gave to their churches and some other ppl in need). They also tithed. They had a different mindset where money was involved. They were not trying to validate themselves through what they owned or what they wore. They were not as ‘tight fisted’ as some other races. They chose to trust God to provide for their needs despite their present circumstances. So, to a certain degree they prospered.

God is not an ‘Indian’ giver. [Now let me say that I lived in Alaska for quite some time and had several Native American friends. I realize that is a racial slur- Indian- to many Native Americans. I am only using that word here because it is a well-recognized cliché. Not because I am trying to be insensitive. I apologize in advance.] He does not take away the gifts he gives nor does he ‘flip the script’ and stop spiritual laws and their effects/benefits. Just as he does not stop natural laws like momentum conservation from taking place. However, only his children will be able to maximize the benefits of these spiritual laws because he is also a righteous judge. If we put his laws into practice in our lives there is no stopping us. Unfortunately, many of us will not experience this level of blessings/abundant living, peace, joy, divine health and protection. Fortunately, our salvation is not dependent on it. We will always have some poor among us- not just financially poor either. Not everyone can handle the tremendous responsibilities that come with next level blessings. The difference is that there should not be so much lack around us b/c those that God can trust with ‘much’ should also be doing what he commands them to do with the excess he has given( Luke 12:48-48But the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment will be beaten with few blows. From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked.) [ Also reference the parable of the talents in Matt 25- 21"His master replied, 'Well done, good and faithful servant! You have been faithful with a few things; I will put you in charge of many things. Come and share your master's happiness!'].
Everything we do should be about kingdom business b/c in the end only what we do for God will count. What God said was for me not to focus on the color of his skin while he was here but to remember his blood was red. Remember his blood cleansed me. Remember that he made me AA on purpose and he loved me and is willing to instruct me on how to survive in this present time. Who is like him? Who can keep me from obtaining the things/favor he wants to give me? Is there anything too hard for God?Does it matter my age, my race, my geographic location to him? Can he not 'get' to me no matter who is in political authority? The cares of this life do not compare to him. He taught me he is not limited by this world in and he doesn't want us to be limited spiritually and mentally either (Rom 12:2 2Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will). I was like ok - I got it and I have never looked back…

This was an excellent post Prudent! Much to reflect on..

I too have found it interesting how many who do evil still prosper because of their adherence to God's natural laws that he set in the earth - namely the laws of sowing and reaping and giving and receiving.