I've never had hair that was anything remotely close to long which is why to me long always meant to be at least at the shoulders. I'd actually be more than happy to have hair that could simply frame my entire face. I think I could have been close had I not did the BC in December because my hair was growing like crazy during my transition but it's healthy and growing now so that's what matters. My only real goal is to have healthy shoulder length hair or something near that and then I'll be starting my locs.