Anti Social Personality Disorder

Country gal

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Since we like reading up on various disorders that impact relationships. I was introduced to a new one. Antisocial personality Disorder. It's a good one. Been there, done that and got the T-shirt.

http://www.drugs.com/health-guide/antisocial-personality-disorder.html

Antisocial personality disorder, like other personality disorders, is a longstanding pattern of behavior and experience that impairs functioning and causes distress.

By definition, people with antisocial personality disorder don't follow society's norms, are deceitful and intimidating in relationships, and are inconsiderate of the rights of others. People with this type of personality may take part in criminal activity, but if they do, they are not sorry for their hurtful deeds. They can be impulsive, reckless and sometimes violent. This disorder is far more common and more apparent in men than women.

People with antisocial personality disorder generally do not value "playing by the rules" -- they do so only if they are threatened with punishment. This attitude leads to a tendency to exploit others. They take advantage of the fairness or softheartedness of others, and they feel indifferent toward or even contemptuous of their victims. A person with this disorder has little, if any, ability to be intimate with another person. Any lasting relationships are likely to involve some degree of abuse or neglect. Yet people with this disorder are sometimes charming and can be good actors who use lies and distortion to keep relationships going. Some with antisocial personality disorder have no goal beyond the pleasure of deceiving or harming others.

People with antisocial personality disorder appear to care for no one but themselves. They may be able to understand the emotions of others, but they don't suffer any shame or guilt about the pain they may be causing. Instead, they use their knowledge of others' weaknesses to gain favors or to manipulate an outcome. A person with this disorder usually does not take responsibility for any of his or her own suffering. He or she will blame others when things go badly. Many with this disorder do suffer, because they can be self-defeating, and never get to enjoy the many pleasures that come to people who are better able to have mutual and satisfying relationships.

People with this personality disorder can also have problems such as chronic boredom or irritability, psychosomatic symptoms, pathological gambling, alcohol and substance abuse, and a variety of mood or anxiety disorders. They have a higher risk of suicide. A significant number have had behavior problems or attention deficit disorder as children.

Antisocial personality disorder is probably caused by a combination of factors. Having any of these characteristics does not necessarily mean that a person has antisocial personality disorder.

Influences from the environment. A chaotic family life contributes to the development of this personality disorder, especially where there has been little supervision from parents or other adult role models. The disorder also may be more common where the community is not supportive or provides little reward for positive behavior. In some situations, there may even be reinforcement for sociopathic behavior.
Genetic (inherited) or biological factors. Researchers have found certain physiological responses that may occur more frequently in people with antisocial personality disorder. For example, they have a comparatively flat response to stress. They seem to get less anxious than the average person. They seem to have a harder time maintaining daytime arousal. They also have a weak "startle reflex," the involuntary response to loud noises. This relative insensitivity may affect their ability to learn from reward and punishment.
The frontal lobe, the area of the brain that governs judgment and planning, also appears to be different in people with antisocial personality disorder. Some researchers have found changes in the volume of brain structures that mediate violent behavior. People with this kind of brain function may thus have more difficulty restraining their impulses, which may account for the tendency toward more aggressive behavior. Neurobiologists cannot say with certainty that these variations in brain structure are a cause of antisocial personality. The variations could easily be the result of life experiences that are more common in people with this personality disorder rather than a cause.
Symptoms

People with antisocial personality disorder tend to have few symptoms. Rather, they cause discomfort or distress to others through socially unacceptable behavior and by being:

Deceitful
Impulsive
Aggressive or irritable
Reckless
Irresponsible
Remorseless
 
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Sounds ike a sociopath, but scarier. What type of treatment is available to someone with this disorder?

Treatment

Many psychotherapy techniques have been proposed for treating antisocial personality disorder. Unfortunately, research does not indicate that any of the current treatments is particularly helpful for treating the personality disorder itself. As a result, the choice of treatment can be guided by a person's specific circumstances. In younger people, family or group psychotherapy may help to change destructive patterns of behavior, teach new vocational and relationship skills, and reinforce a person's social support. Psychotherapy also may help a person with this disorder learn to be more sensitive to the feelings of others and encourage new, socially acceptable and productive ways of thinking about one's goals and aims. Cognitive therapy attempts to change sociopathic ways of thinking. Behavior therapy uses reward and punishment to promote good behavior.

In some cases, symptoms can be treated with medication, although again there is no specific medication that is considered best for all people with this disorder. Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs), such as fluoxetine (Prozac) and sertraline (Zoloft), may decrease aggressiveness and irritability. These drugs are useful if either anxiety or depression are present, or if the person is using substances to self-medicate for anxiety or low mood.

There are many questions about how helpful any of these interventions can be in an illness where, by definition, people who are affected do not recognize that they have a problem. Treatment is more likely to be successful if it is started earlier in life, but it is difficult to change long-entrenched patterns of thinking and behavior. Also, the longer a person lives with this personality style, the less he or she may be interested in taking responsibility for change. For some people, the tendency toward aggression and irritability decreases with age, but some personality characteristics may persist.

Often the only thing that can protect victims of antisocial behavior is the criminal justice system. In rare instances, corrections systems (jails and prisons) provide opportunities for treatment or rehabilitation, but often these environments, with their abundance of antisocial individuals, only promote antisocial behavior.
 
Sounds ike a sociopath, but scarier. What type of treatment is available to someone with this disorder?

There is no treatment for that..well it isn't effective. If the person truly wanted treatment, it would take years and I believe it would have to do more with turning the negative behavior into a more positive manner. Using their evil powers for good. Off topic, but that demetria chick from blood, sweat, and heels comes off like that. And I have a family member who is a sociopath/pyschopath. I know that title isn't used anymore, but it fits so well.
 
Actually in my mental health nursing books it says most ppl with this disorder turn into sociopaths without early treatment

Yea. I learned that a lot of serial killers had antisocial personalities. I also learned the difference between antisocial and asocial behavior.
 
There is no treatment for that..well it isn't effective. If the person truly wanted treatment, it would take years and I believe it would have to do more with turning the negative behavior into a more positive manner. Using their evil powers for good. Off topic, but that demetria chick from blood, sweat, and heels comes off like that. And I have a family member who is a sociopath/pyschopath. I know that title isn't used anymore, but it fits so well.

Since I still have to interact with this person, I am learning to take what they say and do at face value for that moment. Their actions don't hold weight with me and I try not to take it person anymore.

This person only behaves a certain way at times to get what they need from me. When the need is no longer, they flip the switch and discard me. To them, I no longer have value or worth.

This person is very distructive. They are criminal minded, very aggressive, and violent natured. They come from a very broken/dysfunctional environment. They know how they operate is totally different from what is considered normal. But they feel how they behave and think is like a protective covering.
 
^^^ shortdub- I lived with one. Your post is so correct. They will have you going in circles. They will be a liability not an asset. The lies are just crazy. They leave death and destruction in their wake. I don't believe anything that they say. Their actions will always tell the truth. If alcohol is in the mix you can forget it.
 
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Sounds ike a sociopath, but scarier. What type of treatment is available to someone with this disorder?


Antisocial personality disorder (ASPD) is the same thing as a sociopath/psychopath. In mental health sociopath and psychopath are old labels for what is now known as ASPD.
 
Antisocial personality disorder (ASPD) is the same thing as a sociopath/psychopath. In mental health sociopath and psychopath are old labels for what is now known as ASPD.

Oh ok, I wish they would quit swtiching up the labels! It confused me because I dont remember sociopaths being described as violent...not that I've studied mental health or anything.
 
Not all people with ASPD are violent. Most CEO's would meet the threshold for a diagnosis of ASPD, they have just had a different trajectory somewhere in their life that has allowed them to channel their aggression/ impulsive behaviours in a productive capacity.
 
It also concerns me how the media seems to glorify anti-social behavior. Looking stuff from house of cards, breaking bad, dexter, the wire, the most popular characters on these shows exhibit high levels of anti-social behavior but are characterized as strong, brilliant, goal-oriented. The audience buys into the idea that rules don't apply for the because they are special, which is exactly what a lot of sociopaths think.

It's weird to me.
 
It also concerns me how the media seems to glorify anti-social behavior. Looking stuff from house of cards, breaking bad, dexter, the wire, the most popular characters on these shows exhibit high levels of anti-social behavior but are characterized as strong, brilliant, goal-oriented. The audience buys into the idea that rules don't apply for the because they are special, which is exactly what a lot of sociopaths think.

It's weird to me.

When you couple people's obsession with power with the fact that humans often lack empathy in general, it makes sense that sociopaths are popular characters. Says a lot about us as people, doesn't it?
 
Not all people with ASPD are violent. Most CEO's would meet the threshold for a diagnosis of ASPD, they have just had a different trajectory somewhere in their life that has allowed them to channel their aggression/ impulsive behaviours in a productive capacity.

I disagree with this statement cluster b cause pain wherever they go.

Are these CEO's really channeling they behaviors into a productive channel? I personally think corporate America is destroying the environment because of their sociopathic/narcissistic leaders. Think of Monsanto, Dow chemical, the disappearance of bees, oil companies, the housing bubble that burst, pyramid schemes, Ponzi schemes, smooth talking lying politicians. Cluster B personalities are destructive no matter where they go.


Cluster B personalities are able to thrive in a corporate environment because the corporate bottom line is to generate a profit no matter the means. Bullies, cluster b personality, are overlooked and rewarded while the victims are verbally abused, group mob, blame, shame, criticized, sabotaged and eventually lose their jobs. In fact corporation and politician have been refer to as a narcissistic/sociopathic entity.

Highly narcissistic/sociopathic personalities are only useful in my opinion in times of war. If you are going to war it would be to your great benefit to have As many of these people on your side as possible.
 
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Are these CEO's really channeling they behaviors into a productive channel? I personally think corporate America is destroying the environment because of their sociopathic/narcissistic leaders. Think of Monsanto, Dow chemical, the disappearance of bees, oil companies, the housing bubble that burst, pyramid schemes, Ponzi schemes, smooth talking lying politicians. Cluster B personalities are destructive no matter where they go.

Highly narcissistic/sociopathic personalities are only useful in my opinion in times of war. If you are going to war it would be to your great benefit to have As many of these people on your side as possible.

Great points, and I agree. I was fired by the head of my non-profit with no notice simply because he wanted to cut the budget. They did not want to pay my unemployment, so they started making a case for themselves by writing me up for stupid things like reading at my desk when things were slow (though when they hired me, they said it was OK since I was a student). He demoted people he didn't like knowing they would have to leave due to the salary cut. After they were gone, he brought in his own people from his last organization and raised the salary levels and titles back to where they were before. He also got rid of our kitchen because he wanted to expand our conference room which was next door. Folks begged him not to. He ignored us. So, people were forced to either bring a lunch that didn't need to be refrigerated or heated or go out for lunch on expensive arse Capitol Hill.

He also put undue stress on his personal secretary by demanding outrageous things causing her to walk out, refuse to sign birthday cards, or put up signs that he didn't like for whatever reason. Once the faucet was broken and I put up a sign saying so and directed people to turn it own slowly because too much pressure would spray you right in your upper body. He ripped it down. Needless to say, two people were hosed that day. One was a female who happened to be wearing a white silk blouse. He still would not let me put up a sign after that.

He was a total psychopath. Watching him with his wife and son was painful. They were clearly props and he had no really affection towards them. It was truly scary. But he would certainly be useful, as you said, in wartime.
 
Wow enyo this guy sounds like a real piece of work. I had a bully boss also who was a real jackazz. I eventually reported him to corporate bypassing the local HR office and he was force to retire early , however; he made sure to take my job before he retired. This guy was friends with everyone in the local hr office so I could not have gone through the proper channels.

Anyways, cluster B personality rarely change you either endure the abuse or get out or make yourself a harden target.
 
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