A Preacher's Daughter and MTV's My Super Sweet 16....

[PaperClip]

I can't even watch it anymore. My momma is struggling to pay bills and her pastor just built himself a mansion in the most exclusive part of town. She tithes and offers her last as if God is the Celestial Santa.

I can't take it. Worse thing about it is he's my first cousin.

I don't mean to throw off insensitively, but exactly why is your mom struggling? Is she living beyond her means? Is she working?

Your mom's struggle is not automatically connected to her GIVING her tithes and offerings unto the LORD, NOT the pastor.

 

[alexstin]

I have said this a million times over. I know for a fact that MTV provokes the teens to act out. Some of it is their true personality, but most of it is an act. I also KNOW that they buy those gifts for the kids and pay for a portion of the parties. They get them party planners if they don't have them, they facilitate locations etc. The parents are well off for sure, but MTV is in their pockets. The parents CAN decided if they want MTV to buy a car or whatever, they can say no and still have the show, but as you see, most parents don't say no.

Before Gerald Levert passed, he said that he allowed MTV to pick the Venue and the performing artists for his daughter's party but he asked them not to buy her a car. They did it anyway and he returned it.

And they go along with it just to be on TV and get free stuff.

 

[Cleve_gryl]

seems to me that there is a deeper issue here. ...... and them doing the tv show doesn't make the rumor stop but it provides fuel.

Yes, there is a deeper issue to the rumor mill. It's all good though, the rumors will never cease...but our church family has been growing by at least 40 members each service, so souls are being saved .

 

[Shimmie]

So....just because you contribute to the pastor's salary you feel you have a say on what he does with his money? Interesting?

Actually in some ways, yes. It's our hard earned money and if its being mis-used / abused then we do have a right to say something and/or not give anything further. Move on and give to another ministry more responsible. One of the reasons there's such a financial uproar in the news, is misuse of funds.

I personally am not 'seeding' into dead works.

 

[Shimmie]

Yes, there is a deeper issue to the rumor mill. It's all good though, the rumors will never cease...but our church family has been growing by at least 40 members each service, so souls are being saved .

For you, Cleve_gryl: ... My comments are rough, but they have nothing to do with you. I respect you highly. Just wanted to say how much you are appreciated.

 

[Shimmie]

I don't mean to throw off insensitively, but exactly why is your mom struggling? Is she living beyond her means? Is she working?

Your mom's struggle is not automatically connected to her GIVING her tithes and offerings unto the LORD, NOT the pastor.

I totally agree with you RR. I learned a while back that as 'Christians' our seeds are hindered from producing because of the ground being sown into.

If the Ministry is doing the work of the Lord faithfully, then surely, we will prosper and reap the harvest. For we've sown into 'fertile' ground. But if the Ministry is heaping the funds upon themselves, then it's dead ground. And we are wasting our 'seed'. Jesus gives seed to the sower, and we need to be good stewarts with the seed He blesses us to sow with. If the Ministry is not doing His work with our seed, then it's time to move on to fertile ground...a Ministry doing God's will.

Also, many suffer because 'faith without works is dead." Many Christians do not act upon their faith and do not reach out to obtain the blessings that God has for them. Hence the blessings just sit and and go unclaimed, so to speak.

We need to ask God where to sow and what to sow and when each time we have a gift for His altar. In turn go out and act upon our faith. For God will withhold no good thing from those He loves.

 

[Shimmie]

I have said this a million times over. I know for a fact that MTV provokes the teens to act out. Some of it is their true personality, but most of it is an act. I also KNOW that they buy those gifts for the kids and pay for a portion of the parties. They get them party planners if they don't have them, they facilitate locations etc. The parents are well off for sure, but MTV is in their pockets. The parents CAN decided if they want MTV to buy a car or whatever, they can say no and still have the show, but as you see, most parents don't say no.

Before Gerald Levert passed, he said that he allowed MTV to pick the Venue and the performing artists for his daughter's party but he asked them not to buy her a car. They did it anyway and he returned it.

So MTV is their God, the director and orchestrator of their 'Testimony.' I'm sad to say that I saw this comment. Why? Where was his foot to put down against this. Where was his stand? Why do we have Christians who wimp out for the 'world'? Obviously MTV was his God and not Jesus. At least that' how it 'appears'.

The point I'm trying to make here is that all he had to do was say NO! All he had to do was take a stand against MTV and make it plain that what they were asking him to do is not a good witness for the God whom he serves nor for the Body of Christ. This goes against his convictions as a man of God and it is not the manner that he wishes his children or congregation to be a reproach of.

That's all he had to do and then walk away. But now he can never take it back. MTV was his choice over God. What price to do it right for Jesus?

What does it profit a man, to gain the whole world and lose his soul? He sold out. He wanted to be in the spotlight and the price was he sold out for 30 pieces of silver....

MTV, one of the biggest arenas against God....like unto another King Nebakanezzer. But Shadrach, Meshach and Abinego refused to bow and they didn't burn in the firey furnace that they were thrown into.

Neither was Daniel attacked by the lions in their own den....

Love and blessings...

 

[Blkprincess]

no wonder they're investigating these super churches!! why does a preacher need a private jet? is that where your collection plate offerings go? I don't even want to know how much it cost to fuel that jet alone. I mean, there's nothing wrong with material things...but that is just pure materialism, and there's a diff. no modesty, humility....what ever happened to keeping your eye simple. just because you can give your child everything, doesn't mean that you should.

 

[SEMO]

No matter what the truth is about this family, perception is reality for most people. That's why the Bible says to avoid the very appearance of evil.

 

[PaperClip]

No matter what the truth is about this family, perception is reality for most people. That's why the Bible says to avoid the very appearance of evil.

Hmmm... that applies if you think money is evil. I don't think money is evil. The bible says the LOVE of money is the root of all evil. 1 Timothy 6:10

Such things (money) look evil to people that don't have money. And if part of the reason that a person doesn't have money is because they are LAZY, ohhhhh welllllll....

Proverbs 6:
" 6 Go to the ant, O lazy person. Watch and think about her ways, and be wise. 7 She has no leader, head or ruler, 8 but she gets her food ready in the summer, and gathers her food at the right time. 9 How long will you lie down, O lazy person? When will you rise up from your sleep? 10 A little sleep, a little rest, a little folding of the hands to rest, 11 and being poor will come upon you like a robber, and your need like a man ready to fight."

That's book right there. The Bible says you don't work, you don't eat. 2 Thessalonians 3:10